<DocScrutinizer05>
I admit I did the 3 links since I was too lazy to add a personal statement like "this is intersting" to a single link
<Wizzup>
would be better still :)
* Wizzup
heads to bed
<DocScrutinizer05>
well then it is spam, I welcome my own spam on my own page
<Wizzup>
sure, sure :)
<DocScrutinizer05>
when somebody disagrees, too bad
<illwieckz>
So, it is 01:00 here, I'll go to sleep, thanks for what you are doing, and keep up the good work.
<DocScrutinizer05>
and when somebody thinks that buying a Neo900 from a page that has a particular link to another URL on it is unbearable...
<DocScrutinizer05>
then I think that's exactly the extort mindset that I dislike in systemd and the way it hijacks every linux distro and spoils it for alternative init systems
<DocScrutinizer05>
I admit it's there 6 times despite me only posting it 3 times, and it looks cheesy this way
<dos1>
still a bit dizzy, but much better than yesterday :)
<slyon>
good!
<slyon>
so you'll be able to give the presentation?
<dos1>
yup
<slyon>
great! :) my plan is that I start a "Hangout on Air" via the OHSW account and send you an invite via G+. Then you can join and share your screen and voice in order to give the presentation. does this sound good to you?
<slyon>
that way people can find the stream and video at the usual place and I can put your presentation on the projector for the visitors here
<dos1>
sounds good
<slyon>
cool! right now we're about 20min behind the schedule, just FIY
<slyon>
FYI*
<slyon>
so you can probably start around 16:20 (german time)
<dos1>
ok
<wpwrak>
dos1: you may be the most visible speaker. all the others are talking in the dark ;-)
<jake42>
wpwrak: should we turn on the lights? :-)
<wpwrak>
jake42: it may be nice to see more than an army of dark shadows :)
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<jake42>
for the next talks
<Openbot>
Neo900 jake ?
<Openbot>
Jake42^^
<Openbot>
Dos1 got sick ?
<wpwrak>
Openbot: he'll give the presentation through cyberspace, from the safety of his home
<wpwrak>
yes, having the speaker move into the light does also work :)
<Openbot>
Good
<Openbot>
Like snowden :D
<wpwrak>
indeed. "what i have to say is too dangerous" :)
<Openbot>
just Say it damm
<wpwrak>
no, really ? ;-)
<wpwrak>
(commenting on the livestream)
<dos1>
hehe :)
<Openbot>
Dos1 hi
<dos1>
hello
<Openbot>
How wass the talk
<slyon>
Openbot, neo900 talk is next
<slyon>
about 30-45min
<Openbot>
Be careful they might have infested your bathroom by now
<Openbot>
Dos1 leave the stage to doc he will bash the hell out of everyone :D
<Openbot>
Sylon 2g here :D
<wpwrak>
Sicelo: the dragon does not venture out of his lair to come to the knight. the knight comes to the dragon's lair (to be barbecued and eaten, usually)
<slyon>
Openbot, ohh i see. it is also recorded, so you can have a look later on ;)
<Openbot>
Wpwark:you are a genius !
<Openbot>
*Wpwrak
<wpwrak>
;-)
<Openbot>
I was just wondering about the look on the faces of spectators if doc was on stage
<slyon>
right now EvilDragon from OpenPandora is on stage
<Openbot>
He might eat people
<Openbot>
How may people there sylon
<Openbot>
*Slyon
<slyon>
Openbot, about 25
<slyon>
room is full :)
<Openbot>
Good but a bit low volume it seems
<slyon>
the stream?
<Openbot>
Full ? Is it a bathroom ??
<slyon>
no a seminar room at the technical university of munich
<Openbot>
The people
<Openbot>
Oh
<jake42>
Openbot: but you got a point
<jake42>
we should invest in a decent mic
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<slyon>
jake42, actually i think the mic is alright, did you have a look at the recordings?
<slyon>
also I could turn up the volume, but I don't think it's needed
<wpwrak>
yes ! usb debug port. i like that :)
<slyon>
wpwrak, indeed! that's a very nice feature
<wpwrak>
i wish we could have that on neo900. alas, joerg hates the idea :-(
<Sicelo>
why not?
<wpwrak>
phew. an army of mechanical switches ? that must be $$$.
<jake42>
slyon: I thought it sounded like a bathroom
<slyon>
jake42, ahh. OK maybe this can be improved later on with some "Magic Youtube Improvement filters"
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<jake42>
though it's just fine to understand
<jake42>
maybe :-)
<wpwrak>
the echo and distortions sometimes make it a bit difficult. but yes, i've heard considerably worse.
<Openbot>
Echo is bad very bad when in a room
<wpwrak>
(better yield) good point. and we'll have that, too :)
<slyon>
unfortunately i only have WiFi, i think thats the cause for the distortions
<slyon>
also my laptop is pretty busy with the 720p stream, i have a load of 5.0-6.0 (with 4 cores)
<Openbot>
720p streaming ? 480p looks fine on a typical laptop
<slyon>
dos1, are you ready? looks like ED is almost finished. then there will be a little bit of discussion, a small break (5min) and then it's your turn
<slyon>
Openbot, yes for readability of the slides
<Openbot>
When you got a bad conn and just need to watch a thing
<Openbot>
Dos1
<Openbot>
jet set go !
<Openbot>
Is he on now ?
<dos1>
ready!
<Openbot>
Somebody kind can pls do a speech to text here of inportant bits
<slyon>
dos1, i just sent an invite for the stream. I'm shortly afk now. will be back in 5min
<Openbot>
Where is doccrutinizer05 ? He is dead silent today ? Run over by a truck :(
<Openbot>
Or what ?
<Openbot>
*Docscrutinizer05
<Humpelstilzchen>
hmpf xbmc can't play this video yet
<wpwrak>
DocScrutinizer05's ways are inscrutable :)
<Openbot>
Cant phrase wpwrak :(
<Openbot>
~dict Inscrutable
<wpwrak>
Humpelstilzchen: still on standby, it seems
<infobot>
Dictionary 'Inscrutable' (1 of 3): \In*scru"ta*ble\, a. [L. inscrutabilis : cf. F. inscrutable. See {In-} not, and {Scrutiny}.] Unsearchable; incapable of being searched into and understood by inquiry or study; impossible or difficult to be explained or accounted for satisfactorily; obscure; incomprehensible; as, an inscrutable design or event. [1913 Webster] 'T is not in man To yield a reason for the will of Heaven Which is inscrutable. ...
<Openbot>
Omg ! New word added to my catalouge !
<Openbot>
Does the lips move now ?
<Openbot>
I mean dos1 s lips ;
<wpwrak>
i hope someone who's there will tell us when it starts - in case the stream doesn't begin automatically
<slyon>
dos1, can we start?
<Openbot>
Slyon also on the talks ?
<dos1>
slyon: yup
<slyon>
dos1, ok we're testing the speakers and then we can start...
<Openbot>
Aha
<slyon>
dos1, you're LIVE!
<jake42>
go dos1 :-)
<slyon>
btw: the stream on youtube has a slight delay
<wpwrak>
stream is running
<slyon>
we have no sound...
<Openbot>
Ummm err
<jake42>
now
<jake42>
it works
<slyon>
not yet
<Openbot>
Make it workk
<slyon>
now youÄre good!
<slyon>
yes
<wpwrak>
on youtube the sound is ok
<Sicelo>
it works. but dos1 is not visible
<Openbot>
Whats happening use skype
<wpwrak>
hearing ya loud and clear
<Openbot>
Wpwrak : some speech to text appreciated ;)
<wpwrak>
i'm not nearly fast enough for that ...
<Openbot>
Seems everybody deep in the streams
<Openbot>
Wpwark just intresting tits bits only lol
<wpwrak>
"walled garden" ... nice expression for "prison camp" ;-)
<Openbot>
Ha ha
<jake42>
nice analogy :-)
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<wpwrak>
"old" as in "ancient". calypso was obsolete even when we used it in openmoko
<slyon>
little statistic: 8 visitors in the stream + 25 visitors from OHSW/Munich
<wpwrak>
we're being tracked ;-)
<slyon>
hehe
<Openbot>
Get well soon dos1 ;)
<wpwrak>
paranoid and creative :)
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* slyon
is wondering how we can master the Q/A session of this talk. I'll try to get a non-delayed audio channel between OHSW and dos
<slyon>
(once the delayed stream on the projector is finished)
<wpwrak>
now to the stuff everyone's hungering for :)
<slyon>
dos1, just a sec, we'll soon talk to you ;)
<dos1>
okay :)
<wpwrak>
*clap, clap*
<jake42>
*applause*
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<wpwrak>
whee, two-way audio !
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<wpwrak>
yeah, if people only knew what sorts of delays (and worse) happen *inside* companies ;-)
<slyon>
OK. We're offline. Thank you once more!
<wpwrak>
dos1: thanks !
<dos1>
I hope it wasn't too painful to listen to me... :)
<jake42>
thanks dos1 for the awesometalk even though you couldn't attend!
<slyon>
at the beginning it was a little strange, but after a while it felt OK :)
<Toxic-Waste>
a lot of "ummm" :) please work on that
<DocScrutinizer05>
this is common even to many native speakers
<DocScrutinizer05>
dos1: great talk, many thanks!
<wpwrak>
Toxic-Waste: that's a classical teleconferencing problem. after a while, the speaker begins to mentally adjust to talking to his PC and not to people. pretty hard to overcome, even if you realize it's happening.
<wpwrak>
but i;m sure evolution will solve that in a few dozen generations, too :)
<DocScrutinizer05>
yeah, return channel completely missing, so no feedback to adjust tempo of speech accordingly
<Toxic-Waste>
oh okay,i didnt realize that
<DocScrutinizer05>
similar to missing ACK in TCP/IP ;-)
<Toxic-Waste>
or one-way UDP :)
<dos1>
well, I do "ummm" a lot even with full ACK ;)
<dos1>
that was actually my first major talk in english
<DocScrutinizer05>
and it was brilliant, even if it were not the first
<dos1>
and first major one in polish wasn't that long time ago as well... i'll get better with time :)
<DocScrutinizer05>
yes, inevitably :-D
<DocScrutinizer05>
after 4 weeks Taipei, I sometimes continued speaking English even when we were 3 or 4 native German speakers in the group
<Toxic-Waste>
congratulations, then :D i'll have to re-watch it though, because i missed the first 3/4
<DocScrutinizer05>
until Wolfgang answered in German, so I noticed it
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<slyon>
dos1, yeah. your talk was absolutely fine. Everybody here in munich could follow.
<dos1>
i'm glad :)
<dos1>
I had a moment of panic right before the beginning - turns out screen sharing on hangouts + libreoffice impress + two screens is a no-go :D
<dos1>
impress displays convienent "speaker-panel" on second screen showing next slide and the notes for current one
<dos1>
with hangouts, I could only select the whole window that was across both screens
<dos1>
so if you wondered what's with that mess on top of the screen - that was my quick workaround :D
<slyon>
the small distoriton on top didn't really distract, so that's fine
<DocScrutinizer05>
indeed kudos to managing that online speech and the usual hickups they come with
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<slyon>
bye!
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<dos1>
o/
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<freemangordon>
dos1: was your presentation in english?
<dos1>
freemangordon: hopefully you're asking that before watching it? :)
<dos1>
yup
<freemangordon>
ok, I will watch it then :)
<freemangordon>
yeah, I was serious
<freemangordon>
dos1: your english is ok to me, I can understand everything ;)