<wpwrak>
content should be pretty much as before, but i changed/fixed some subtle bugs in the scripts generating all this, so if anything looks suspicious, please holler
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<Oksana>
Quuiiieeeettttt......
<wpwrak>
oy
<wpwrak>
grr
<Oksana>
? Hello
<wpwrak>
it's friggin' xmas eve on almost half of the planet. what do you expect it to be ? wild orgies ? ;-)
<Oksana>
Well, I would expect that people free from work would double their efforts on open-source front ;-) But they are more likely to run away from computers altogether, so... Almost-silence in many places.
<wpwrak>
in german, there's even a song, about the most famous for xmas, going "quiet night, holy night ..." :)
<Oksana>
Why does N950-flasher require sudo? Work-Linux is protected against sudo-attempts, so reflashing N950 (to latest-Nemo-Mobile) can be done only at home (fortunately, I have already downloaded image and such, so slow Internet is not going to be a problem).
<wpwrak>
you should make friends with the people who can free you from that sort of straight-jackets :)
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<Oksana>
Heh... I know the admin, but I doubt he would make an exception for me, because it would set a dangerous precedent, and greatly increase number of problems he has to solve. As it is, handling proprietary=buggy software is no easy task. Mysterious problems come and go; log-off-log-on is the most common cure, but it does not always help.
<wpwrak>
you just have to come up with a good excuse for him to give you the necessary "privileges". then he's covered. and at universities, people rarely get hanged for screwing up, so even if you did cause some damage, he probably wouldn't worry too much.
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<DocScrutinizer51>
chowm /dev/usb
<Oksana>
chown?
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<trench>
new command to take over hardware ;)
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<Pali>
fuck, my raspberrypi with debian *wheezy* wants to install new package called init-system-helpers
<SylvieLorxu>
Wow, Linus is friendly in those posts
<bencoh>
:)
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<mvaenskae>
Pali: systemd will make great friends in the embedded world of uclibc and musl ;) ohhh wait... it is designed to run with glibc
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<mvaenskae>
DocScrutinizer51: i am getting weird looks if i say i am anti-systemd "awww come on, it's just an init system, it won't kill you to use it"... yup, maybe not now but in 5 years even a stupid text editor will depend on some interface it offers and oh boy will kdbus give a field day for exploits to run in kernel level as opposed to userspace
<SylvieLorxu>
"It's only one of the most important parts of a system"
<bencoh>
mvaenskae: they hardcoded glibc-specific stuff as well ?
<bencoh>
seriously now .... when you thought it couldnt get worst ...
<bencoh>
(it will)
<bencoh>
-t+e
<MonkeyofDoom>
"oh boy will kdbus give a field day for exploits to run in kernel level as opposed to userspace" the other part is true but this is nonsense
<DocScrutinizer51>
yup
<MonkeyofDoom>
there's no reason kdbus will be more exploity than any other IPC service the kernel provides, and the kernel side of kdbus solves some problems that weren't well-solved previously which will benefit things like Wayland's use of SHM
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<Openbot>
Kaboom kaboom
<Openbot>
kabooom kabo...
<Openbot>
drunk chrismas and a jolly new year to all ;) docscrutinizer05 excluded .
<Openbot>
Happy new year and merry chrimas to doc and neoteam ;)
<Openbot>
C ya ll later lots of cakes and stuff to gobble shamelessly ...