08:00 <ceene> http://librepcb.org/

08:00 <ceene> i didn't know about this thing

08:05 <Joerg-Neo900> hmm

08:06 <Joerg-Neo900> on a sidenote: layout progressing nicely. Waiting for sn0wmonster to elaborate

08:15 <ceene> :D

08:15 <ceene> i'm happy to hear that!

12:40 <bl33d15> hi all! )))

15:01 <Joerg-Neo900> Hi!

15:06 <bl33d15> whats new about neo900?

15:07 <Joerg-Neo900> just paid first tranche for layout (proto_v2) contract

15:08 <Joerg-Neo900> expect first snapshots of WIP to appear very shortly

15:08 <Joerg-Neo900> metacollin knows more ;-)

15:09 <bl33d15> Joerg-Neo900: tnx for info )

15:09 <Joerg-Neo900> you're very welcome :-)

15:10 <bl33d15> how you think, will be possible on n900 have the same gildon desktop?

15:10 <bl33d15> sorry, hildon

15:11 <Joerg-Neo900> that's the plan

15:11 <bl33d15> is there working models allready?

15:11 <Joerg-Neo900> the whole point of Neo900 is about being 100% N900 compatible, regarding OS and apps

15:12 <Joerg-Neo900> we're about to build prototype v2 which is meant to be such "working model"

15:14 <Joerg-Neo900> see http://neo900.org/resources -> "Neo900 v2 Prototype"

15:15 <Joerg-Neo900> it took us unbearably long to get layout going, layouters savvy and professional on KiCad are really hard to find, and then 90% of those you find are overwhelmed by the project's complexity

15:15 <Joerg-Neo900> but finally we found best guy metacollin

15:24 <DocScrutinizer05> s/complexity/unusual non-mainstream aspects/

15:29 <Joerg-Neo900> on a maybe interesting sidenote: we are giving transferwise a second try. Looking good so far, possibly this qualifies for a viable payment method for our "poor"*) US-based folks

15:32 <Joerg-Neo900> *) suffering from an unbearably weird and nasty bank system

15:33 <Joerg-Neo900> banks who think "SWIFT" was a dirty word

15:34 <Joerg-Neo900> who think fees of 50 bucks for a simple transatlantic money transfer were all OK

15:34 <Joerg-Neo900> heck, in europe the mamangers of those banks would probably do time in jail for robbery

15:37 <Joerg-Neo900> but when POTUS thinks imports should get taxed by 30%, a fee of a humble 50 bucks for a money transfer abroad is probably rather mandatory than a crime

22:13 <jkepler_> Hi, Joerg-Neo900. I live and work in France, but am paid in the US. I've

22:13 <jkepler_> But, as good as transferwise's service is, it doesn't beat the cheap fees using bitcoin to move my money between my US and French banks.

22:13 <jkepler_> used transferwise a few times, and I have colleagues who've also used it. Its simple, straightforward, and their transparent exchange rates (you get the rate they quote you) and 1% fee is refreshing after international wires costing me 40 USD in the states, and another 33 EUR to receive at my bank here in France - ballpark 70 USD!

22:14 <Joerg-Neo900> yeah

22:23 <metacollin> https://metacollin.com/screens/upshot_NS6yQOjZ.jpg