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<Oksana> About PoP warpage: https://www.utacgroup.com/images/White-Paper/SunW_ICEPT08_PoP.pdf <-- Not sure whether it's helpful or not, though
<Joerg-Neo900> Oksana: I'm quite sure we already had that source of info. Thanks anyway :-)
<Joerg-Neo900> it's definitely helpful
<Joerg-Neo900> warpage is completely a mere financial problem, about number of evaluation/optimization runs you need to afford
<Joerg-Neo900> as well as uniqueness of equipment and tooling you need for assembly process
* Oksana nods, and notes that BeagleBoard-xM didn't go for 1GB RAM, apparently?
<Joerg-Neo900> nope, only N9 ever did, afaik
<Joerg-Neo900> the size/density of RAM PoP anyway has no relation to warp effect
<Joerg-Neo900> would have been interesting if Nikolaus had tried to mount an "old" 512MB RAM PoP, and see if they encounter same warp problems like with the new 1GB RAM PoPs
<Joerg-Neo900> I bet they would have noticed not the slighetst difference
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<brolin_empey> atk: sicelo: I am guessing that memoserv is a service of freenode, not part of the IRC protocol and therefore not available on a network such as the EFnet that lacks services (such as NickServ, ChanServ)?
<brolin_empey> I cannot reply to houkime because they are not here again.
<brolin_empey> I was curious if houkime had tried or considered Vimeo because Vimeo seems to be much less popular in a sense than YouTube so I did not know if houkime was aware of Vimeo.
<brolin_empey> In practice, though, freenode is usually the only IRC network I use. I stopped using the OFTC.
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<atk> brolin_empey: yes, everything where you have to /msg something (generally with serv in the name but not quite the case with e.g. alis) to get a service is an irc service and not part of the protocol
<atk> but we're not on EFnet so you can still use memoserv
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<brolin_empey> atk: OK, that is what I thought. In this case I used /query instead of /msg , though. ;-)
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<chomwitt> if the project is dead in its current form could revive if a second project to create a combatible n900 case ? (i mean Joerg-Neo900 mentioned the diffuclty of finding other n900 )
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<Joerg-Neo900> chomwitt: yes, this is one possible way ahead
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<xmn> hmm, did I miss something? Are we officially talking dead something?
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<sicelo> xmn: doesn't sound like that to me :p
<xmn> I hope not
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<Wikiwide> chomwitt : stylus is the easiest, it already has STL file available on Thingiverse. If you know a good mould-something company, then you could make a batch of 500 or 1000 Nokia N900 styluses, and they would be in demand (a tad slow, but people do lose/break styluses)
<Wikiwide> The most difficult part is battery cover aka back-cover. Because it's not only plastic, but metal as well, including magnet, backstand, spring for camera cover... That backcover would be a challenge to make.
<Wikiwide> And backcover could be in demand, as well, though not as much as stylus - people do break backcovers, sometimes.
<houkime> there are already 3d-scans of a case inner side made by wpwrak although they have limited precision and mignt need refactoring to be usable.
<houkime> the outer side is less important for compatibility and can be dumbed down a bit probably.
<Wikiwide> Yes, wpwrak's scans are high-precision, just need some smoothing, preferably by somebody who can measure the Nokia N900 case with 0.1mm accuracy (or even higher).
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