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<_JusSx_> can u give me some good reasons for studying ocaml?
<wuuru> _JusSx_:
<wuuru> _JusSx_: read http://www.cs.chalmers.se/~rjmh/Papers/whyfp.html, a paper with reasons for studying functional programming in general :-)
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<_JusSx_> wuuru : thanz
<_JusSx_> well that's about functional programming
<wuuru> yes :-)
<_JusSx_> i can make functional programming with C too
<_JusSx_> or C++
<wuuru> of course, you can do functional style, or modular, or procedure oriented programming in any language, even in assembly
<wuuru> the difference is the facilities a language gives you for programming in a particular style
<_JusSx_> well i know C, C++ and java. but why should i learn ocalm? i know it's powerful but it's also not spread
<wuuru> absense of objects in C does not mean you cannot program in object-oriented style...
<_JusSx_> yeah i know
<wuuru> you can emulate objects yourself with structures..
<_JusSx_> i studied oop with C first
<wuuru> well, but would you agree that C++ is more comfortable for OOP? :-)
<_JusSx_> yeah i know these features
<wuuru> just in the same manner the functional language are more suitable for programming in functional style :-)
<_JusSx_> i know only a prog that has been written with ocalm. it's mldonkey
<wuuru> I know spamoracle :-)
<_JusSx_> what's spamoracle?
<wuuru> spam filter :-)
<mattam> you probably know hevea too, and the caml compiler/interpreter suite too
<_JusSx_> wow
<_JusSx_> url?
<mattam> for SpamOracle
<wuuru> :-)
<_JusSx_> hey guys what's os are u using?
* wuuru FreeBSD
<mattam> linux here
<mattam> gentoo to be precise
<_JusSx_> ok
<wuuru> _JusSx_: what about you? :-)
<_JusSx_> linux
<_JusSx_> gentoo
<wuuru> :-)
<_JusSx_> where are u from?
<wuuru> russia
<_JusSx_> Moscow?
<wuuru> yes
<_JusSx_> how old are u?
<wuuru> 26 :-)
<_JusSx_> i'm from italy. i'm 27 years old
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<wuuru> _JusSx_: from milan?
<wuuru> :-)
<_JusSx_> no
<_JusSx_> Modena
<_JusSx_> do u know ferrari?
<wuuru> a car, yes :-)
<_JusSx_> here we made up the ferrari
<_JusSx_> ok
<_JusSx_> are u a developer?
<wuuru> I have been to italy for only one week but loved it
<mattam> hehe, i made an ebuild for SpamOracle _JusSx_, it must be integrated, otherwise, get it at http://www.mattam.org/soft/ebuilds/releases/SpamOracle-1.4.ebuild
<_JusSx_> ah thanx mattam
<wuuru> well, I developed something... as for ocaml projects, I am only trying
<_JusSx_> never been in Russia. But i like Russian Girls
<_JusSx_> they are tall
<wuuru> :-)
<_JusSx_> and they are blonde
<wuuru> tall...
<wuuru> hmmm
<_JusSx_> no
<wuuru> I would not say so
<_JusSx_> am i wrong?
<_JusSx_> 1.70 cm
<_JusSx_> 1.80cm
<_JusSx_> i can say they are tall
<wuuru> 1.80 is a rare case
<mattam> m, not cm
<_JusSx_> sorry
<_JusSx_> 180 cm
<_JusSx_> 170 cm
<wuuru> the tallest nations are norwegians :-)
<mattam> maybe you use the . delimiter in italy ?
<wuuru> nation
<_JusSx_> no in italy women aren't tall
<_JusSx_> however
<_JusSx_> do u code with ocaml?
<wuuru> _JusSx_: the female in romina & power is tall :-)
<_JusSx_> well she isn't italian
* wuuru is trying to code a jabber component in ocaml
<_JusSx_> jabber what's it? i can't remember
<wuuru> an extensible, opensource instance messaging system
<_JusSx_> ah gtk right?
<wuuru> like ICQ + IRC + whatever
<_JusSx_> i don't use gtk stuff
<_JusSx_> i never used jabber
<wuuru> you can setup your own server and freely connect to any other servers, like SMTP servers do
<wuuru> gtk has nothing to do with jabber :-)
<_JusSx_> ahh
<_JusSx_> ok
<_JusSx_> i never see it so i can't say
<wuuru> well, it is much younger than IRC
<_JusSx_> so u is ocaml a functional programming language?
<wuuru> yes
<_JusSx_> jabber is written in C. right?
<wuuru> no
<_JusSx_> lol
<_JusSx_> i don't know anything
<_JusSx_> about jabber
<wuuru> jabber protocol is impemented in many languages
<wuuru> for example, the russian server, jabber.ru uses ejabberd written in a funcional language Erlang
<_JusSx_> ok
<_JusSx_> is jabber a protocol?
<wuuru> well, the protocol is oficially called XMPP
<_JusSx_> XMPP ok
<wuuru> Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol
<_JusSx_> jabber is a client. right?
<wuuru> no, jabber is a community that develops XMPP
<wuuru> it assumes developping the protocol, the clients and the servers
<_JusSx_> ok
<wuuru> and the extensions, like weather servive, or chess playing service, or whiteboard plugin for drawing together
<wuuru> the protocol is based in XML
<wuuru> so, unlike IRC, you can transmit something more complicated than a plain text
<wuuru> in your messages
<mattam> what component are you writing wuuru ?
<wuuru> mattam: calendar :-)
<mattam> wow, and what library do you use for dates ?
<wuuru> heh, I didn't think about it yet :-) The had the idea of writing it only about a month ago
<wuuru> so, I got to know how to parse XML in ocaml
<wuuru> how to speak to the server
<wuuru> how to encrypt my password with SHA1
<wuuru> and now I am thinking about the component design :-)
<_JusSx_> what are other functional programming languages?
<wuuru> _JusSx_: the list is here :-) http://www.cs.nott.ac.uk/~gmh//faq.html#languages
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<_JusSx_> wuuru thanx
<_JusSx_> where can i download a little example prog?
<wuuru> _JusSx_: which example? :-)
<_JusSx_> i mean an example of caml language
<two-face> caml.inria.fr
<wuuru> _JusSx_: for ocaml, there is an examples collection http://caml.inria.fr/Examples/oc.tar.gz And you can get more info at caml.inria.fr :-)
<_JusSx_> i'm visiting the website
<_JusSx_> i downloaded documentation
<_JusSx_> but i haven't a lot of time
<wuuru> _JusSx_: so look at the collection of the examples :-)
<_JusSx_> ok
<_JusSx_> i must go to work :(
<wuuru> to work, satturday afternoon? :-)
<_JusSx_> yeah
<wuuru> heh
<wuuru> _JusSx_: is programming a good job in italy?
<wuuru> like muc wanted and well-payed
<wuuru> much
* wuuru thinks about moving to a country with a better climate, such as spain or italy :-)
<_JusSx_> lol
<wuuru> why lol? :-)
<_JusSx_> are u cold?
<wuuru> yeah
<wuuru> -3 C now, -20 in January
<_JusSx_> yeah here 14 C
<wuuru> :-)
<wuuru> I visited Italy in February and I was choked with the weather
<wuuru> here it was -20 C, and -15..20 in Rome :-)
<wuuru> here it was -20 C, and +15..20 in Rome :-)
<_JusSx_> rome is warmer than here
<wuuru> oranges in the yard of my hotel impressed me too :-)
<wuuru> when I went back to russia by plane
<wuuru> I flew above a green italy
<wuuru> then landed to the white-gray russia, with a white-gray snow and cold
<_JusSx_> lol
<wuuru> since then I dream about moving to a warmer country
<two-face> but you're used to cold wheather
<wuuru> _JusSx_: so, what about programming jobs in italy? :-)
<wuuru> yes, but I hate the cold
<wuuru> I seek in Spain, too
<wuuru> with no much success :-)
<wuuru> I know Spanish better than Italian, however :-)
<_JusSx_> programming isn't my job
<two-face> wait for few years
<wuuru> _JusSx_: and what is you job?
<wuuru> two-face: and what then? :-)
<_JusSx_> i work for a bank
<two-face> wuuru: noone is recruiting these days
<wuuru> two-face: and in a few years... ?
<two-face> economy
<wuuru> _JusSx_: like what? a financier? :-)
<_JusSx_> yeah
<wuuru> _JusSx_: why are you interested in ocaml then? :-)
<_JusSx_> programming is my hobby
<wuuru> I think about a warm country with a good wine...
<_JusSx_> i started with my C64 when i was 8
<_JusSx_> yeah italy is for u
<wuuru> I know spanish, and french and italian a bit worse
<_JusSx_> italian wine is better
<wuuru> but italian is very easy to learn better :-)
<two-face> yes, go to Italy
<wuuru> the problem is to find a job, job permission and visa :-)
<wuuru> _JusSx_: italian wine is better than what? :-)
<two-face> I thought they wouldn't let yout out in soviet union?
<_JusSx_> it's bettern than french one
<wuuru> two-face: yes... but... (surprise!) a soviet union did not exist since 1991, and we can now move freely :-)
<two-face> what ?!!!
<two-face> did I miss something?
<wuuru> looks like :-)
<two-face> but but
<two-face> why I mr bond still alive then?
<wuuru> two-face: 'why I mr bond still alive then' -- ?
<_JusSx_> looooooooool
<two-face> why is mr bond still alive then?
<_JusSx_> this is a good question
<wuuru> do you mean the english mr. bond, 007? :-)
<two-face> yep
<two-face> he's doing pointless job these days
<wuuru> two-face: did mr. bond fight only against USSR? :-)
<two-face> no, but he was at best when he did so
<wuuru> _JusSx_: what is the price of renting an appartment in Modena? :-)
<wuuru> _JusSx_: in Moscow the minimal price is now $300, in Valencia (Spain) it is about EUR 100 :-)
<Maddas> Wow.
<_JusSx_> 400 euro per month
<Maddas> for 100 euro you won't even get half a room here :-(
<wuuru> two-face: did you really think the Russian could not leave the country these days? :-)
<Maddas> (in the cities)
<wuuru> Maddas: 'here'=when?
<_JusSx_> Milan is more expensive
<Maddas> wuuru: Switzerland
<_JusSx_> bye
<wuuru> Maddas: well, my Russian friend who moved to .ch is obliged to rent an appartment for minimum of $1000, in order to get a permission to stay there :-)
<two-face> wuuru: no I didn't. The French Riviera is the favourite place of the russian mafia
<Maddas> wuuru: :)
<mattam> _JusSx_: italian wine better than our's ? i admit chianti is not bad, but you can't say that
<Maddas> nono, Swiss wine is the real good thing!
* Maddas chokes from laughing
<mattam> it's a matter of taste anyway :!)
<wuuru> In Russia, I prefer to buy italian, spanish, chilean wines because there are less expensive than the French
<mattam> how can swiss make wine at such altitudes ?
<wuuru> I don't know why, but a bottle of wine that costs EUR 3 in Western Europe here costs more than EUR 10 :-(
<mattam> chilean like 'from chili, south america' ???
<wuuru> Maddas: yeah :-)
<mattam> duh!
<wuuru> Maddas: haven't you ever tasted a chilean wine? :-)
<wuuru> mattam: haven't you ever tasted a chilean wine? :-)
<mattam> is it 'drinkable' ?
<mattam> no, not yet
<wuuru> yea
<mattam> it's on my TODO now
<wuuru> very drinkable
<wuuru> like White Santa Rita
<wuuru> the best white wine I have ever tasted
<wuuru> but of course, you can easily encounter bad chili whines too..
<mattam> did you ever tried 'sauvignon' or 'bergerac' ?
<wuuru> yes
<wuuru> sauvignon is very popular in russia
<wuuru> more from Moldova
<wuuru> but from France and Chile too :-)
<mattam> haha
<wuuru> mattam: but, as far as I know, sauvignon is a cepage wine, and cepage wines are not considered a high quality wine in france
<mattam> yep
<wuuru> mattam: however, I don't know if you are able to find a good chilean wine in .ch
<mattam> i'm in .fr
<wuuru> mattam: when i was in italy or spain I noted they only have their local wines in the hops
<wuuru> ah
<wuuru> in the shops
<wuuru> here in russia we have no any good wine of our own
<wuuru> so we have wines of many other countries (very expensive, though)
<mattam> yeah, they're not yet in the 'global world of trade' i suppose
<mattam> and you are
<wuuru> and here it is very easy to buy a chilean or argentienean wine just like a french or italian
<wuuru> and all are very expensive
<two-face> wuuru: I've read a biography of Petrovitch, very interesting
<wuuru> like price*3
<Maddas> wuuru: in .ch?
<Maddas> do you mean chile?
<wuuru> two-face: which Petrovish? :-)
<wuuru> Maddas: eh? I have never been to .ch :-)
<two-face> the first of course
<two-face> the Great
<two-face> no the first
<wuuru> two-face: hmmm
<Maddas> wuuru: .ch? As in chile?
<wuuru> two-face: may be 'Petr'? :-)
<two-face> around 1700 you know
<wuuru> Maddas: .ch is the top-level domain of Switzerland :-)
<Maddas> wuuru: yes, I just wonderedbhm
<Maddas> hm
<Maddas> wuuru: yes, I thought you meant Chile. Must have misread the sentence :)
<wuuru> two-face: in might be 'Peter' :-)
<two-face> wuuru: Peter is the english name
<wuuru> two-face: well, in Russian it is 'Petr', and 'Petrovich' is something like "a Petr's son"
<two-face> wuuru: gah, sorry, you're right
<wuuru> Õß Õß!..
<two-face> what?
<wuuru> :-)
<two-face> KOI8?
<wuuru> yes. how do you know about KOI8? :-)
<two-face> i guessed
<wuuru> :-)
<Riastradh> He randomly pressed a sequence of keys and produced KOI8.
<wuuru> and ÐÒÉ×ÅÔ is 'hello' i koi8 :-)
<two-face> good but I can't read KOI8 currently
* wuuru has recently applied for a position in a spanish university (declarative languages)
<wuuru> but they have chosen another candidate from 60 applied
<wuuru> how would I move to the country of my dream... I don't know...
<two-face> your country needs you
<wuuru> no
<wuuru> in any case, I don't need it :-)
<two-face> i'm not surprised
<wuuru> :-)
<wuuru> two-face: why? don't you love france?
<two-face> i do
<two-face> and i'm not going to leave it
<two-face> even if it is going worse
<wuuru> in russia, it is too cold, and the people's faces you meet on the streets are too dark
<two-face> there is no ideal plac
<two-face> e
<wuuru> I have been to spain for a month this year and I love it
<wuuru> and I love italy too :-)
<two-face> sure
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<Vincenz> Ocaml 3.07?
<Vincenz> What's new in it?
<mattam> recursive modules definitions
<Vincenz> hmm
* Vincenz never got to the point of working with modules
<mattam> the ChangeLog on caml.inria.fr is more verbose than me Vincenz
<Vincenz> Actually I had surfed to www.ocaml.org but I hadn't found any place where it states the diffs
<Vincenz> Got it
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<_JusSx_> wuuru i'm back
<_JusSx_> ok
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<Xolution> hey, i'm a bit confused about the Arg module
<Xolution> the stuff in the 3.07 release docs doesn't make sense to me
<_JusSx_> heya do u use emacs for editing?
<Xolution> yes
<_JusSx_> Xolution are u a gentoo users?
<_JusSx_> Xolution are u a gentoo user?
<Xolution> with the tuareg mode
<Xolution> no
<_JusSx_> ok thanx
<Xolution> not yet, anyway... in less than one week i may be though
<_JusSx_> how do u enable tuared mode?
<Xolution> ;; Tuareg mode stuff
<Xolution> (setq auto-mode-alist (cons '("\\.ml\\w?" . tuareg-mode) auto-mode-alist))
<Xolution> (autoload 'tuareg-mode "tuareg" "Major mode for editing Caml code" t)
<Xolution> (autoload 'camldebug "camldebug" "Run the Caml debugger" t)
<Xolution> In my init.el (XEmacs)
<_JusSx_> ok thanx a lot
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<_JusSx_> wuuru : heya
<_JusSx_> wuuru : are u there?
<teratorn> or just do apt-get install tuareg-mode
<teratorn> :)
<_JusSx_> teratorn are u using gentoo?
<teratorn> nah
<teratorn> gentoo probably has it tough
<_JusSx_> what distro?
<wuuru> _JusSx_: yes
<_JusSx_> wuuru : i tried to install tuared-mode for emacs
<_JusSx_> wuuru : i tried to install tuareg-mode for emacs
<_JusSx_> do u use it?
<wuuru> no, I use vim :-)
<_JusSx_> lol
<_JusSx_> ok
<_JusSx_> this isn't a luck day
<_JusSx_> i got an error . i can't install because my tuareg-mode has got the wrong md5
<wuuru> it might be trojaned then :-)
<_JusSx_> >>> our recorded digest: a7de9963d43be31110fc26ccdc3e2cfc
<_JusSx_> >>> your file's digest: 587465789299539f9d0485118ba9fac6
<_JusSx_> wuuru i think functional programming is really interesting
<wuuru> I think so too :-)
<Xolution> wait, you mean people in a functional language's IRC channel find functional programming interesting?!
<_JusSx_> well
<_JusSx_> i read about functional language today
<_JusSx_> i can do nothing
<mellum> _JusSx_: read SICP
<_JusSx_> SICP^
<_JusSx_> ?
<mellum> google for it
<_JusSx_> mellum: what is it?
<_JusSx_> why should i read it?
<mellum> It looked like you were interested in learning functional programming.
<_JusSx_> yeah
<_JusSx_> i'm
<_JusSx_> i was reading ocalm-ora-book
<_JusSx_> i was reading ocaml-ora-book
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<_JusSx_> Xolution are u a god?
<Xolution> of course
<Xolution> (um... why are you asking?)
<_JusSx_> you seem a god
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<wuuru> _JusSx_: SICP is to thick, read whyfp and you'll a lot of things in one day :-)
<_JusSx_> wuuru : i read whyfp
<wuuru> good :-)
<_JusSx_> but it's quite hard
<_JusSx_> well the first part is easy
<_JusSx_> the examples are harder
<_JusSx_> i programmed for long time with procedural languages
<_JusSx_> this is the prob
<Smerdyakov> That's not a problem by itself.
<Smerdyakov> It's a problem if you have memorized a few code patterns for procedural languages and you construct all programs by combining those. :-)
<_JusSx_> well i always programmed from the scratch
<Smerdyakov> I said _memorized_. Not copied-and-pasted.
<_JusSx_> i haven't a god memory
<_JusSx_> :(
<Smerdyakov> It's still possible to only learn to program through memorization.
<Demitar> My one hardest thing to understand when going to ocaml from the cish world was the way function application works. ie fun arg1 arg2 ... vs fun(arg1, arg2, ...).
<_JusSx_> is this the official ocaml irc channel?
<vect> es
<vect> *yes
<Demitar> vect, it's official? :)
<Smerdyakov> Demitar, you mean understanding what currying is?
<vect> demitar there is a link on inria's web page.
<_JusSx_> Demitar : you are rigth
<vect> IIRC
<mellum> Well, you can get pretty far by ignoring the existence of currying
<Demitar> Smerdyakov, well for some reason I just couldn't wrap my mind around it. Let's just say the examples doing let main () = didn't really help. :)
<Smerdyakov> Demitar, I think it would be pretty bad to not be able to understand a different syntax for function calls. It's reasonable not to understand currying, though. Which do you mean?
<wuuru> Demitar: what's difficult with that? let f = (+) is a funcion taking to arguments, let f = (+) 2 is a function taking one argument and adding 2 to it :-)
<_JusSx_> wuuru : yeah i have just studies
<_JusSx_> wuuru : yeah i have just studied
<_JusSx_> lol
<wuuru> :-) :-)
<wuuru> _JusSx_: you could probably install 'hugs' for trying the examples in the paper
<wuuru> _JusSx_: it is Haskell, however, not ocaml :-)
<wuuru> or even miranda... a predecessor of haskell
<_JusSx_> ocalm is dialet, right?
<_JusSx_> ocaml is dialet, right?
<wuuru> a dialect of ML, yes
<wuuru> not haskell :-)
<_JusSx_> i'm reading ocaml-ora-book now
<_JusSx_> i downloaded cdk.pdf too
<_JusSx_> by now i can make : let succ x = x + 1;;
<_JusSx_> or something like that
<wuuru> the whyfp example are possible to try in haskell (hugs) with a little bit of syntactic changes
<wuuru> examples
<wuuru> it is a bit harder to transform them to ocaml code :-)
<_JusSx_> first i need to learn ocaml then i can code by myself
<wuuru> but the paper is excellent imho
<wuuru> as for CDK... looks like it is not supported for more than 2 years
<_JusSx_> heya wuuru . if i would code hex printer how can i start ?
<Smerdyakov> The same way you'd start in languages you already know.
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<Smerdyakov> When you don't know how to do something in OCaml, then look for how to do it.
<wuuru> _JusSx_: well, you will need something like Printf.printf "%x\n" (Char.code 'a') for printing 'a' as hex '61' :-)
<_JusSx_> but i can find these functions in modules. right?
<wuuru> yes, ocamlbrowser will help you
<wuuru> it shows all the modules available and the functions in them
<Smerdyakov> _JusSx_, I think it would be best for you to do exercises from some book/tutorial.
<_JusSx_> Smerdyakov : i know
<Smerdyakov> _JusSx_, they will generally introduce beforehand all language features and standard functions that make sense to use in the exercises.
<Smerdyakov> So, if you are looking for a function to do something, then you are probably not approaching this correctly.
<_JusSx_> i studied C, C++, Java by myself
<wuuru> Smerdyakov: why? :-)
<_JusSx_> i think i can learn ocaml too
<Smerdyakov> wuuru, because it indicates not following the order of reading and exercises in the book.
<wuuru> Smerdyakov: I think it is a good idea to find a function you need in a standard library, and if it is not there, to write it yourself... the excercises will not list all the functions :-)
<Smerdyakov> wuuru, if they don't list all the functions, they should.
<_JusSx_> wuuru mine was an example
<Smerdyakov> wuuru, the text should already have covered anything you need to use to do the exercises.
<_JusSx_> i don't care to code a hex printer
<Smerdyakov> _JusSx_, examples that use I/O (including printing) are bad choices for learning functional programming.
<wuuru> Smerdyakov: ah, true about the exercises, but not true about your own tasks :-)
<_JusSx_> printing
<_JusSx_> i mean console output and input
<Smerdyakov> _JusSx_, yeah. You shouldn't try to write programs that use that until you are comfortable with the language.
<wuuru> you should write the programs that do many thinks but keep the result invisible :-)
<wuuru> many things
<_JusSx_> this is a difference from C, C++ for example
<Smerdyakov> No. You should use the interactive environment to take input (in the form of arguments to functions) and display output (by pretty-printing function return values).
<wuuru> Smerdyakov: well, i'm kidding :-)
<Smerdyakov> wuuru, I don't believe you.
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<wuuru> btw, ocaml interactive environment sucks :-)
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<Smerdyakov> wuuru, why?
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<_JusSx_> what do u mean?
<_JusSx_> run ocalm
<wuuru> Smerdyakov: no 'readline'
<_JusSx_> and got # prompt?
<_JusSx_> ocaml*
<Smerdyakov> _JusSx_, yes
<wuuru> Smerdyakov: and I know about ledit, that still sucks :-)
<_JusSx_> yeah i'm using it now
<Smerdyakov> wuuru, I use emacs, myself.
<wuuru> ah..
<Smerdyakov> wuuru, it's silly to have readline when emacs can do it all better.
<_JusSx_> Smerdyakov i would use emacs too
<_JusSx_> my gentoo tuareg package isn't okk
<wuuru> Smerdyakov: if you use emacs, yes
<Smerdyakov> wuuru, it's silly not to use emacs.
<wuuru> :-) :-)
<_JusSx_> one question
<_JusSx_> but do u know any window user of ocaml?
<_JusSx_> but d14:52:36 <_JusSx_> u all are using linux or other unix os
<Smerdyakov> Maybe if you typed in complete, grammatically correct sentences, you would be easier to understand!
<Smerdyakov> (That includes not using 'u', using plurals correctly, etc.)
<_JusSx_> WINDOWS MICROSOFT
<_JusSx_> OK?
<wuuru> windows users are losers, we don't need to know about them :-)
<_JusSx_> wuuru ok
<Smerdyakov> No, _JusSx_, not OK!
<_JusSx_> Smerdyakov : if u can understand u can reply me
<_JusSx_> but if can't don't reply me
<_JusSx_> ok?
<Smerdyakov> No, _JusSx_, not OK!
<wuuru> :-) :-) :-)
<_JusSx_> next time i will post question in italian
<mellum> History is a cool thing
<Smerdyakov> Free tips: it's "reply to me," not "reply me."
<Smerdyakov> And it's "if you can't, ...", not "if can't, ..."
<_JusSx_> Smerdyakov where are u from?
<wuuru> or, I understand italian
<Smerdyakov> USA
<_JusSx_> looooooooooooooooooool
<_JusSx_> poor guys
<_JusSx_> you americans
<_JusSx_> have you defeated syphillis?
<_JusSx_> no i don't think
* Smerdyakov raises an eyebrow.
<Xolution> yeah... that makes about 0 sense
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<wuuru> one more poor guy :-)
<Demitar> Smerdyakov, wuuru: Well I didn't say it was logical, but all the new syntax and typing confused me at first. That said I'm much more comfortable with OCaml than C these days.
<Smerdyakov> Demitar, you must have been a smelly womprat!
<wuuru> Demitar: :-)
<Demitar> Smerdyakov, I was deep in the C++ swamp to say the least. :)
<_JusSx_> wuuru : perchè dici cosi?
<_JusSx_> wuuru : il mio inglese fara cagare ma gli americani fanno peggio
<Smerdyakov> Lo ho trovato un italiano e come di consueto preferito per fare un passo soltanto sugli infanti.
<_JusSx_> Smerdyakov dovresti imparare l'italiano prima di scrivere cazzate grammaticalment scorrette
<async> hey Smerdyakov
<Smerdyakov> Ciao, async.
<async> im going to SF tonight
<async> Cirque de Soleil
<async> my CS class is over
<_JusSx_> Smerdyakov traduci questo to madra le na vaca
<Smerdyakov> That is a thing!
<async> Smerdyakov: what are you doing for break
<async> staying here?
<Smerdyakov> _JusSx_, È falso. Dite alle bugie ed incitate la vostra madre a cry.
<Smerdyakov> async, for most of it.
<async> research?
<Smerdyakov> Partly.
<_JusSx_> Smerdyakov It's false. you tell to the lies and you want your mother to cry.
<_JusSx_> Smerdyakov : really good
<Smerdyakov> Conosco così tanto l'italiano il re dei E-maihi dell'Italia me domande italiane per le emergenze.
<_JusSx_> Smerdyakov : what FUCK are u saying? you typed words with no sense
<Smerdyakov> Sono l'inventore di senso. I possedere il marchio su senso.
<_JusSx_> well a lot of americans are affected by syphillis. It can defeated with 12euro. you are the richest country of the world but you haven't money to save your citizens.
<_JusSx_> but you have money to make bombs. this is a great investment for future.
<_JusSx_> you are great
<_JusSx_> .
<Smerdyakov> I am great!
* ayrnieu begins to wake up, noticing a boring america-is-evil argument, and then goes back to sleep.
<ayrnieu> also, 'notices'. z.