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<Axioplase> ++
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<mrsolo_> is there a log4j port for ocaml?
<mrsolo_> or something similiar to it..
<Riastradh> log4j?
<mrsolo_> pretty flexible logging system
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<debona|r> hm
<debona|r> wonder why no one has made a port for ledit
<debona|r> how do I compile somethign statically?
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<pp> Chat Lu!
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<zem> anyone awake?
<Lemmih> yeah
<karryall> sure
* zem is trying to get cameleon installed under windows
<zem> the configure script is breaking all over the place - is it *nix only?
<zem> (running it using mingw/msys)
<gim> mattam: hi, coq 8.0 release is available! have you already began a new ebuild ? (some friend said to me that he will adapt the ebuild if that hasn't been done yet)
<mattam> i think i have one but may have forgotten to commit it :)
<mattam> i'm certain i have one in fact, as i use it
<gim> ah, it will be on the repository soon ?
<mattam> in the next 30 minutes
<gim> yeah cool :)
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<zem> sorry, another newbie question: does graphics.cmo no longer ship with the distribution? i have a graphics.cmi file but i have no idea what to do with it
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<karryall> zem: you should have a graphics.cma
<karryall> .cmi is the compiled interface
<karryall> .cma is the library
<zem> ah - thanks
* zem just d/led the distribution - i'm a very new newbie
<zem> is .cma bytecode too?
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<dan|el> how do I compile something statically?
<karryall> static/dynamic usually refers to linking, not compiling
<dan|el> sorry, how do I link something statically?
<dan|el> (I knew that, just wasn't thinking)
<karryall> ocaml only does static linking, so there's nothing to do
<dan|el> err...
<dan|el> $ ocamlopt -o simple simpletest.ml
<dan|el> $ file simple
<dan|el> simple: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.0, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped
<karryall> yes, the runtime is dynamically linked to the glibc, but that's all
<dan|el> it's liked to more than that
<dan|el> also uses the dynamic loader lib
<dan|el> so there's no way to completely statically link?
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<karryall> the glibc itself won't let you do it sometimes if you use certains modules (like nss)
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<Banana> you can pass -ccopt "-static"
<dan|el> thanks
<Banana> but it will issue a warning.
<dan|el> noticed that :)
<dan|el> course, since I don't use dlopen, that's not really aproblem. Any idea why it get's linked with the dl libs?
<karryall> no, ocamlopt programs are not supposed to do any kind of dlopening AFAIK
<Banana> well i wouldn't say that...
<Banana> touch foo.ml
<Banana> ocamlopt -ccopt "-static" foo.m
<Banana> ml.
<Banana> there is a warning.
<Banana> about a caml_dlopen which calls dlopen.
<karryall> yes, that's what I'm saying: the asm runtime has caml_dlopen
<karryall> but it will never be used
<Banana> ok.
<karryall> it's only here because this file is shared beetween the bytecode and the native runtimes
<Banana> hum... ok.
<Banana> that makes sense now.
<karryall> they could compile it out with an appropriate #ifdef
<karryall> I'll file a bug report
<karryall> not sure they will care about saving a couple of bytes and avoiding a linker warning :)
<Banana> now that there will be shorter release cycle...
<karryall> hmm
<karryall> bon, cassos, A+
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<Banana> ++
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<pac_> plop
<dan|el> plupp
<pac_> hi dan|el
<dan|el> hullo :)
<dan|el> what are you coding btw?
<pac_> dan|el: nothing in OCAML at this moment, working in a computer graphics lab with C++
<pac_> dan|el: and you ?
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<Axioplase> watching a game, having a bud.
<pac_> looooooool
<pac_> soccer ?
<pac_> who's winning ?
<Axioplase> haven t you ever seen those budwiser announcements?
<Axioplase> (i can t stand soccer...)
<pac_> may be you was really watching the semi final
<Axioplase> no.
<Axioplase> but in a few hours, there'll be some wrestling on TV. i love watching that. (and i love K1 too)
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<pac_> any cool uml modeling software which supports OCAML code generation ?
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<dan|el> pac_: same here, nothing in ocaml. working at work on a proprietary language to model circuits....
<dan|el> pac_: althouhg I was thinking of writing an email client in ocaml as an excersise
<dan|el> since I don't know the language, having a project is always a good way to start :)
<pac_> dan|el: yep I do the same but it is a minesweeper :)
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<dan|el> I never know how to start on stuff like games
<pac_> ehehe You just code it :)
<dan|el> blah :P
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<pac_> dan|el: I finished the core some days ago now I will have a look at the GTK2 binding
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<pac_> mattam: la forme ?
<mattam> yes
<pac_> ehhehee
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<pac_> mattam: bye bye tchequie
<dan|el> *grumble*
<pac_> dan|el: ?
<mattam> he, portugal will win anyway
<ne1> Yeah they said the same about czech
<pac_> ehhee
<pac_> portugal plays @home
<dan|el> I keep getting disced
<ne1> They said that at the opening :)
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<pac_> ne1: what did they say ?
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<pac_> see you guys
<pac_> it's burger time !!!!!
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<vincenz> Hello
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