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<oracle1_> hi
<oracle1_> when I do the following:
<oracle1_> let ch = Unix.in_channel_of_descr c
<oracle1_> and then a input_line ch
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<oracle1_> why do I always get an exception End_of_file after the first line?
<lmbdwar> hi
<oracle1_> hi
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<mellum> WTF? Sys.word_size isn't constant folded for me... that's pretty lame
<mellum> Looks like I have to use lameness like if max_int = 1073741823 :-(
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<senko> why cant i define recursive tuples?
<Riastradh> Use -rec-types.
<senko> rec types?
<Smerdyakov> That is a compiler option that lets you do that.
<senko> ahh
<Smerdyakov> You can always get around it by wrapping all recursion in variants. (The standard way)
<senko> if i what to do: type node = int * node list;;
<senko> how should i do it in variants?
<Riastradh> It wouldn't make much sense. Just use -rec-types for that.
<Smerdyakov> type node = Node of int * node list;;
<senko> ok thank you..
<mflux> riastradh, why wouldn't it make much sense?
<mflux> I've found the same 'workaround' but essentially they don't appear to be much different from each other :-o
<mflux> I wonder what are the downsides if that is behind a compiler option
<Riastradh> mflux, I didn't know that you could fix it by having a single variant; I thought Smerdyakov was talking about making multiple node variants.
<Smerdyakov> That just goes to show that the old saying is true:
<Smerdyakov> "Riastradh is an ignorant bastard."
<mflux> smerdyakov's example works as it is
<mflux> can't see much much less recursive it is anyway
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<Submarine> wow, who is slashvar?
<mattam> some friend of me... i'm not sure he wants his identity disclosed
<Submarine> I was just curious since he's from LRI.
<mattam> indeed
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<fluxx> lri being.. ?
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<two-face> karryall: salut!
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<karryall> two-face: salut
<karryall> fluxx: lri is a CS lab near in a univ Paris
<karryall> near Paris
<karryall> two-face: bon ca marche ocamlsdl avec 3.08 maintenant ?
<two-face> re
<two-face> karryall: on dirait
<two-face> karryall: par contre, j'ai essayé de recompiler les samples et j'ai un truc bizarre
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<karryall> ah
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<two-face> $ make
<two-face> ocamlc.opt -c -w s -I +sdl /usr/lib/ocaml/3.08/sdl/sdl.mli
<two-face> I/O error: /usr/lib/ocaml/3.08/sdl/sdl.cmi: Permission denied
<two-face> make: *** [/usr/lib/ocaml/3.08/sdl/sdl.cmi] Erreur 2
<Submarine> LRI is the lab at University Paris XI - Orsay.
<two-face> karryall: on dirait que sdl.mli est plus recent que sdl.cmi
<two-face> karryall: enfin c'est le cas pour tous les mli en fait
<karryall> hum, c'est avec la version CVS ?
<two-face> non, avec le tarball, mais en fait ça doit venir de ma machine j'imagine
<two-face> les cmi sont installés avant les cmi
<two-face> les cmi sont installés avant les mli
<two-face> amboise:~$ stat /usr/lib/ocaml/3.08/sdl/sdl.mli
<two-face> File: `/usr/lib/ocaml/3.08/sdl/sdl.mli'
<two-face> Size: 2741 Blocks: 8 IO Block: 4096 fichier régulier
<two-face> Device: 305h/773d Inode: 364082 Links: 1
<two-face> Access: (0644/-rw-r--r--) Uid: ( 0/ root) Gid: ( 0/ root)
<two-face> Access: 2004-07-31 21:33:07.000000000 +0200
<two-face> Modify: 2004-07-31 14:45:20.000000000 +0200
<two-face> Change: 2004-07-31 15:11:02.000000000 +0200
<two-face> amboise:~$ stat /usr/lib/ocaml/3.08/sdl/sdl.cmi
<two-face> File: `/usr/lib/ocaml/3.08/sdl/sdl.cmi'
<two-face> Size: 1446 Blocks: 8 IO Block: 4096 fichier régulier
<two-face> Device: 305h/773d Inode: 364032 Links: 1
<two-face> Access: (0644/-rw-r--r--) Uid: ( 0/ root) Gid: ( 0/ root)
<two-face> Access: 2004-07-31 15:10:56.000000000 +0200
<two-face> Modify: 2004-07-31 14:45:19.000000000 +0200
<two-face> Change: 2004-07-31 15:11:02.000000000 +0200
<Submarine> FLOOD
<karryall> ah c'est couillon ca
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<karryall> mais bon, c'est pas la peine de dire dans le Makefile qu'il faut recompiler les .cmi
<two-face> karryall: c'est dans le .depend
<karryall> mauvais .depend, refaire le .depend :)
<karryall> mais je les ai pas mis les samples dans le tarball, moi !?
<two-face> karryall: non, c'est pourquoi je les relivre avec le paquet debian
<karryall> bah, pourquoi tu t'embêtes
<karryall> la moitié sont tout pourris
<two-face> non, ils marchent bien
<two-face> c'est bien de livrer des exemples aux utilisateurs
<karryall> mais justement la plupart sont super mal écrits
<two-face> je n'ai pas regardé en détail, il ne faut donc pas les livrer ?
<karryall> ben à part 1 ou 2, je dirais que c'est pas une perte :)
<two-face> ok :-)
<two-face> karryall: pour info, tu as oublié de remettre la règle distclean
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<karryall> ouais, je la rajouterais a l'occasion
<two-face> BBL
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