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<Harzilein> hi there
<levi_home> Hi.
<Harzilein> i wonder if there have been efforts to write manual pages for the language, akin to those that come with perl
<levi_home> I doubt it. There's already extensive documentation.
<Harzilein> levi_home: yeah, a tutorial and a language reference. nothing that would have that manpage-like feeling with it
<Harzilein> levi_home: it is like i'd take the posix standard if i'd want to learn bourne shell
<levi_home> I found the reference manual very easy to use.
<levi_home> The PDF has a TOC so it's easy to jump to the section I need.
<levi_home> On the other hand, I find the perl manpages to be an unholy mess, just like the rest of the language.
<Harzilein> well, the html rendition has it as well (i wouldn't like pdf if i were sitting at the vt510s at my friends' living room)
<Harzilein> but looking at the actual itch i am trying to scratch (why does the tutorial use ;; for ending expressions and normal programs seem to use ;, why do db queries have an empty line in them) i find it isn't as accessible as manpages would be
* Debolaz2 concurs with perl having a very, very nice documentation system.
<Debolaz2> Which most other languages unfortunately lack.
<Harzilein> ahaa, i found my answer in the camlp4 tutorial (which isn't the first place i'd look ;)
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<Harzilein> hmm...
<Harzilein> # load "camlp4r.cma";;
<Harzilein> Unbound value load
<Harzilein> aaah, just #such expressions looking weird in toplevel
<levi_home> When you type at the toplevel prompt, you must end a line with ;;
<levi_home> In a program, ; is kind of an operator that takes two expressions and returns the value of the second one.
<levi_home> The semicolon isn't a line terminator like it is in C-like languages.
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<flux-> harzilein, you've noticed though, that the manual is available as manpages too? man List
<Harzilein> yeah, that's just like perldoc ;)
<Harzilein> but something like man ocamlsyn would be cool
<levi_home> The manual has a nice syntax guide.
<Harzilein> i don't see something nice there
<Harzilein> the first part of the manual is more like a tutorial, and the language reference is just bnf
<levi_home> What more do you want?
<Harzilein> prose but complete
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<AsylumGov> hi all, I need to implement a simple interactive text-mode program
<AsylumGov> now I would like to be able to catch single key strokes (like arrow or tab)
<AsylumGov> but input_char expects a terminating enter
<AsylumGov> what functions should I use?
<flux-> you want to set the terminal to raw mode
<flux-> with maybe Unix.stty
<flux-> you could also use ncurses-bindings for ocaml
<flux-> but, I've gotta go, good luck :)
<AsylumGov> stty?
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<flux-> bad guess I suppose
<flux-> tcsetattr, of course
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<olegfink> hi!
<haelix> oy !
<olegfink> has anyone any experience with MyNOS? :S
<haelix> I've just had a quick look at their sf project page
<haelix> but I doubt this count as experience :)
<olegfink> yeah, really
<haelix> ask your question/problem, anyway
<olegfink> ah(
<olegfink> it's too project-specific
<haelix> don't they have their own channel ?
<olegfink> In fact, I was patching it for about half an hour
<olegfink> haelix: the project is dead for 2 years
<haelix> it looks interesting, though
<olegfink> yep
<olegfink> I'm trying to do something really similar to this
<olegfink> so I'm interested in trying to get it running
<olegfink> the most fascinating is that I got it to compile
<haelix> :)
<haelix> while we're at dream OSes
<haelix> did anybody manage to have an idea of what Tunes ought to have been ?
<haelix> (seems dead, as well)
<olegfink> they are all PhDs I think
<olegfink> er... PhD thesises I mean
<olegfink> so they die immediately after the person gets PhD
<olegfink> figlio creato
<olegfink> ^^^
<olegfink> all the error messages are in Italian or such
<haelix> if by "such" you mean french, I think I could help
<olegfink> I suppose `creato` isn't french, right?
<haelix> no
<haelix> I thought you meant "various non english languages, beside Italian"
<olegfink> ;)
<olegfink> by the way it seems to continue loading
<olegfink> at least according to htop
<haelix> Do you run it inside a vmware like ?
<olegfink> worse
<olegfink> it' Bochs
<haelix> hum
<haelix> at least that leaves you with some time to think about wha you're executing :)
<olegfink> but it takes too long for my old Athlon64 3200+
<olegfink> seems there's a pretty loop somewhere
<olegfink> uhm
<olegfink> need to add some traces atleast =\
<haelix> well,
<haelix> sorry but I'll have to leave you at that
* haelix going away
<haelix> bye
<olegfink> ину
<olegfink> oops
<olegfink> that was cyrillics
<olegfink> bye
<haelix> da svidania :)
<olegfink> what a surprising knowledge o_O
<haelix> well
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<haelix> my whois information might explain a few things
<haelix> bye (really)
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<hcarty> I'm having trouble with namespace collisions (int32 and friends, mainly) between OCaml's C interface and the HDF4 library
<hcarty> Has anyone else here faced this problem with other libraries and found a good way to get around it?
<hcarty> Other than wrapping everything two (or three) layers deep...
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