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<tsuyoshi> hrm.. why can't exceptions propogate from gtk signals?
<tsuyoshi> most of the program is running from signals, so it's pretty annoying.. can't get a backtrace
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<flux> tsuyoshi, I suppose it's an implementation flaw in the gtk bindings..
<flux> tsuyoshi, I think it should be possible to propagate the signals from there with some changes to the bindings
<flux> I'm not sure how easy it is to get the trace, however
<flux> I don't know how the trace-thing works
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<Snark> hi
<ttamttam> hello
<Snark> I have big problems with lablgtk2 in debian/unstable, and wanted to know whether it was known
<ttamttam> Which problem?
<Snark> well, it doesn't run ;-)
<Snark> I get tons of warnings
<Snark> on the hello.ml example...
<Snark> and the lablgtk2-enabled toplevel doesn't run
<rwmjones> Snark, almost certainly you forgot to link in gtkInit.cmo
<ttamttam> Hum. Can't help you about this, because I switched to Ubuntu, some time ago.
<ttamttam> But I do not use stock ubuntu ocaml
<ttamttam> I prefer to use godi directly
<Snark> rwmjones, ah, ah!
<rwmjones> Snark, if you use ocamlfind to do your compiling/linking it does all this stuff atomatically
<rwmjones> automatically even
<Snark> hmmm... ok, it seems it runs
<Snark> now I have hello.ml running, let me try to have my own program run...
<Snark> in eclipse using ocaIDE & ocamlbuild...
<Snark> uh, doesn't look easy
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* Yoric[DT] is now fighting (again) with ulex.
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<Yoric[DT]> Does anyone around here have experience with ulex ?
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<RobertFischer> Sorry.
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<guyzmo> hi, I have a compiler to write in ocaml as project for uni, and I'm newbie to ocaml. Though I know many imperative and object languages, I still can't think in ocaml, I'm always struggling when to know what I need from the standard library (such as List.iter) or how to build the types and use them...
<guyzmo> anyone could tell me about a documentation, or some advices to make the switch in my head ?
<guyzmo> I really need to get fluent in ocaml as fast as possible... :/
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<guyzmo> (I'm always staying around, so please tell even if I'm away)
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<guyzmo> rwmjones - already went through it, I even traducted one page in french
<guyzmo> but I don't find it focus on the thinking, on the design on the things I have to do.
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<Snark> hmmm... after investigating, I don't know how to make ocamlbuild handle the gtkInit.cmo issue
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<ttamttam> ...
<ttamttam> Snark: Just add let locale = GtkMain.Main.init () at the beginning of your file
<ttamttam> This is what gtkinit contains
<Snark> let me try this
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<Snark> ttamttam, wonderful! Thanks!
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<teclo> Hello, does anybody know if the French-language AIML brain http://www.alicebot.org/downloads/french_aiml_publish.zip is available on pandorabots.com ?
<smimou> how is that related to ocaml?
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<teclo> heeeu bonne question :)
<teclo> J'ai vu ML à la fin
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<mbishop> using Int32s in OCaml is brutal :(
<ita> mbishop: slow ?
<mbishop> Nah, just not having overloaded functions for add/multiply etc is annoying
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<pango> but it's slow too ;)
<mbishop> Haven't gotten to running it yet :P
<mbishop> is there something faster?
<ita> mbishop: are you certain you do need 32 bit precision ?
<mbishop> Yeah, implementing Mersenne Twister
<ita> mbishop: y porque no utilizas bindings ? en c es mas rapido y ya tiene codigo fuente
<mbishop> In english?
<ita> mbishop: i mean, there are c bindings, no need to reimplement in caml
<mbishop> Ah, yes, this is just for fun :)
<ita> since the c implementation is already well tested
<hcarty> mbishop: Would it be too much of a problem to (locally) redefine (+) etc?
<hcarty> I may be assaulted for suggesting such a thing...
<hcarty> But it may make life a little easier for a toy project
<mbishop> well
<mbishop> I did define the F# bitwise stuff
<mbishop> like &&& ||| ^^^
<mbishop> but I'd rather not redefine +, - etc...I thought about defining with a new name, but I don't know if I want to do that heh
<ita> ^_^
<hcarty> Anyone here interested in using/testing a plplot OCaml binding?
<hcarty> It is in a reasonably usable state for 2D and 3D plots. The only external dependencies are camlidl and plplot 5.7.3 or newer
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