<det>
wow, GODI and debian META packages vary greatly
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<flux>
det, well, there appears to be many packages godi doesn't have but debian has
<flux>
I just pulled the list and tried a few at random: vorbis, soundtouch, reins, xmlplaylist, sha, yaml, gdome2, dtools, mad, portaudio..
<flux>
(well, not random, a bit assisted by my memory..)
<flux>
actually I'm talking about ubuntu but I expect these packages originate from debian
<det>
ahh, ok
<det>
What is the usual way to install packages from the command line with GODI ?
<det>
godi_wish -build XXX
<det>
godi_perform -wishes
<det>
that ?
<flux>
I guess, although I didn't know there was godi_wish separately
<det>
oh, can I just call godi_perform by itself ?
<det>
godi_perform -build XXX, I guess, that is easier
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<flux>
actually I use godi_console :)
<flux>
its command line interface implements all those too
<flux>
I wonder if there's too much overlap among godi tools..
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<yziquel>
hi. i'm trying to use camlp4 in a toplevel, and i'm having trouble loading the Grammar module. Where should i find it? See paste at http://paste.lisp.org/display/69812
<yziquel>
Humm... Tried the same thing with camlp5, it didn't seem to work. Where do I get information about new-school camlp5?
<yziquel>
Or another way to put it: what should i #require with findlib to get the Grammar module?
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<Yoric[DT]>
Just for the sake of vocabulary: Camlp5 is old-school Camlp4, kept alive by a splinter cell of Inria.
<Yoric[DT]>
Camlp4 is new-school Camlp4.
<Yoric[DT]>
(and I haven't used old-school Camlp4, so I can't really help)
<yziquel>
Yoric[DT]: ok, but you may know more about the new-school Camlp4. The documentation on the website doesn't to fit my experience... Is the new-school camlp4 documented?
<Yoric[DT]>
I don't remember ever using something called [Grammar] in new-school Camlp4.
<Yoric[DT]>
There's a nice tutorial on Camlp4 in ocaml-tutorial.org, though.
<mfp>
gotta ask Yoric[DT] if he's hiding something else when he comes back :)
<flux>
in any case, I'd opt for #intro instead of #help for that long text :)
<flux>
but in any case, quite nice
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<alexyk>
this paste works fine in toplevel but complains about not being able to generalize types in ocamlc: http://codepad.org/4Qgx1VeF -- why?
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<flux>
you can't compile '_a -types
<flux>
it's called the value restriction
<flux>
standard workaround: let pairset_map_list a = set_map_list PairSet.fold a
<flux>
afaik F# has the same thing
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<flux>
btw, you can for example do this: module Set'(Set : Set.S) = struct include Set let to_list_with f s = fold (fun e r -> (f e)::r) s [] end module Set = Set'(Set.Make(OrderedPair))
<flux>
not sure if that's the best way to go, though
<flux>
but can be decent
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<flux>
right, you had the workaround there too
<flux>
(although you had gone one argument further)
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<Yoric[DT]>
rwmjones: ping
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<flux>
hmm.. isn't it a bug, that for example the calendar package in godi installs a bunch of .cmi-files, when you only use calendarLib.cmi?
<flux>
which leads to problems when you actually try to use them: it compiles fine, but linking breaks
<flux>
I think I've seen the same issue with sexplib once, perhaps it's been fixed since
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<hcarty>
flux: I haven't had any trouble with the calendar package in godi through findlib
<hcarty>
But I have noticed that it "pollutes" the ocamlbrowser interface somewhat
<flux>
hcarty, so what happend when you enter #require "calendar";; module T = Time_Zone in the toplevel?
<hcarty>
Reference to undefined global `Time_Zone'
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<hcarty>
flux: module T = CalendarLib.Time_Zone;; works as expected though
<flux>
hcarty, yes
<flux>
hcarty, I happened to have old code around that didn't use CalendarLib yet..
<hcarty>
flux: That's how it is supposed to work, as I understand it
<flux>
hcarty, isn't it supposed to say Unbound value instead?
<flux>
won't things fail if I were to have another time_Zone.ml around?
<flux>
and if they do, what's the point in having a packed module?
<hcarty>
flux: Ah, I see what you mean
<hcarty>
I'm not sure about that
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<flux>
but, off to sleep
<flux>
good night
<alexyk>
flux: thanks for advice! g'night
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<Yoric[DT]>
Well, we're starting to be ready for a new alpha release of Batteries.
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<Kerris4>
Yoric[DT]: Nice!
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