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<ruzu> newbie q... anyone use lablgl? i've tried in a linux vm and on windows, and i always get something like "undefined global Glut" or Gl not being bound... even though the repl seems to open Gl or Glut packages fine
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<ruzu> ...ah ha! got it working :] (at least provisionally...
<tautologico> I haven't used in quite some time
<tautologico> lablgl is nice but it's old-style OpenGL only
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<ruzu> would you recommend another option? i think i've seen mention of a glcaml somewhere
<tautologico> yeah, glcaml has bindings to more recent OpenGL, but I don't know how easy it is to compile it nowadays
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<companion_cube> o/
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<Kakadu> O_O
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<pminten> is there any way to get utop to print why it thinks packages have certain dependency bounds?
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<pminten> I'm trying to figure out what to hack to make react 1.0.0 and utop both install
<Drup> pminten: opam installation issues ?
<gasche> opam's metadata has the bounds, but not the explanation for them
<pminten> Drup: yup, it says utop requires react <1.0.0 but not why
<gasche> well
<pminten> and utop's _oasis doesn't contain that info
<gasche> react 1.0.0 broke compatibility
<gasche> if utop uses react, it is incompatible with 1.0.0
<pminten> sure, so I wanted to see if I can make it work with 1.0.0
<gasche> well
<pminten> but to do that I first need to know if it's really utop and not a dependency of it that has the problem
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<Drup> look at the patchnote for react 1.0.0, it's pretty obvious where is the breaking change :)
<gasche> pminten: recent (trunk ?) versions of opam can give some explanations of version choices
<gasche> it would probably tell you why utop transitively requires react
<gasche> in the meantime, given that utop doesn't have much deps, you can do that manually easily
<Drup> in this case, it's lwt
<Drup> well, at least, lwt is concerned
<Drup> (that doesn't mean it's only lwt)
<pminten> right, thanks
<pminten> will dive into that one then
<pminten> at least it'll be a good way to learn about react
<pminten> ah, so that's where those opam dependencies come from
<pminten> thank you both
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<Drup> whitequark: hi, is there some example of ocaml code implementing an llvm pass ?
<whitequark> Drup: that's not possible
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<whitequark> Drup: that being said, I'm willing to look into how it can be done
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<Drup> whitequark: oh, is it ? there is some stuff about PassManager in the binding
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<mrvn> Can I write a function that takes an int and returns a unique type for each value of the int or always a unique type no matter the argument?
<def-lkb> ?
<mrvn> let t1 = f 1 let t2 = f 2 let _ = t1 = t2 should give a type error
<def-lkb> Nop
<Drup> with first class module, maybe ?
<mrvn> I've been thinking of making a local module, apply a functor to create a local type and then return a value made by the functor.
<def-lkb> You always need a way to name a type, with first class module you can create local types
<def-lkb> but they can't escape local scope
<mrvn> def-lkb: yes. but can they escape the scope?
<mrvn> :(
<def-lkb> but if you accept to name them, it should be ok
<mrvn> Ok, lets start from scratch. Maybe I have the wrong idea.
<def-lkb> module type S = sig type t val t : t end;; let fresh () = (module (struct type t = int let t = 5 end) : S);; let t1 = fresh () let t2 = fresh ();;
<def-lkb> module T1 = (val t1 : S);; let t1' = T1.t;; (* the same for T2, t1' and t2' have different type, the only way to introduce a value of that type is T[_].t *)
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<mrvn> I'm doing math over a finite field computing polynoms of a fixed degree over a lot of sets of points. I start with an array of size N, from that I compute a matrix of size N*M and that matrix gets applied many times of an array of arrays of size N*M to procude arrays of size M.
<mrvn> I want to make sure all the N and M sizes match through the type system.
<Drup> gadt + peano :p
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<mrvn> Drup: that gives rather long types.
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<Drup> you're trying to encode poor man's dependent type into a language that doesn't support them
<Drup> your doomed to have something a bit clumsy
<mrvn> N (outside parameter) is on the low end of 1-65536 and M is currently 4096. Not sure ocaml can handle succ(succ(succ(...4096 times...(nil)...)))
<mrvn> I think I once saw something with GADTs that used digits to encode number. Something like "D4 D0 D9 D6" for 4096.
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<mrvn> def-lkb: Line 14 says: Error: Unbound module S
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<gasche> pminten: Jérémie answered: utop depends on react directly now
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<pminten> gasche: great, thanks
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