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<whitequark> hm, I have an idea about an utility that works with bytecode
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<whitequark> wow, this file in ocaml codebase opens 28 (twenty eight) modules
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<whitequark> gasche: ping
<whitequark> can you please explain how can I do something useful with Env.summary and Subst.t from Instruct.debug_event?
<whitequark> and how it generally works
<whitequark> the code is somewhat arcane and a little hard to understand
<whitequark> what I gathered is that Env.t is decomposed into Env.summary and Subst.t to save space (I guess?) and you can reconstruct a pristine Env.t
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<dmbaturin> What is the motivation behind different keywords for functions that use pattern matching and that do not?
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<def`> dmbaturin: well they don't have the same syntax, so different keywords are needed to distinguish between both
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<dmbaturin> def`: Well, that's what I'm wondering about, why the syntax was chosen to be different. :)
<dmbaturin> Not that I don't like it, just trying to understand the decision.
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<dmbaturin> Also, what does the compiler really do with "rec" keyword, apart from not throwing an error if you call it recursively?
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<def`> the two constructions don't express the same intent. fun allows to define a function taking multiple argument, while function matches on the current argument
<def`> and about rec keyword, non recursive definition allows you to locally redefine an existing identifier while referring to its previous value, which is a idiom often used in ML codebases
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<def`> (it somewhat mimics the imperative mutation)
<def`> then, typechecking of recursive definitions is harder and most of the times, it is undesireable to have this behavior by default
<def`> … the weird things is why type definition are recursives by default ?!
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<diakopter> hi; I'm getting the same error as reported here: http://irclog.whitequark.org/ocaml/2014-06-20#9390044
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<diakopter> anyone know if it's being worked on? or who I might follow up with
<diakopter> if I use -noautolink, it says Error while linking /usr/lib/ocaml/llvm-3.5/llvm.cma(Llvm): The external function `llvm_global_succ' is not available
<diakopter> (these are all latest bare ubuntu saucy packages)
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<Drup> ping NoNNaN ^
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<NoNNaN> Drup: pong
<diakopter> NoNNaN: I linked to your error report from a few weeks ago (above)
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<diakopter> NoNNaN: did you figure out a workaround/fix or file it anywhere?
<NoNNaN> diakopter: I'll check it
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<NoNNaN> diakopter: the problem was that the compiler/linker in executionengine_ocaml.c could not resolve the extern value llvm_alloc_data_layout(LLVMTargetDataRef TargetData); definition
<NoNNaN> diakopter: I have a quick and dirty ugly and probably incorrect hack here: http://pastebin.com/TTck2U9n
<diakopter> hm, now to get a dev environment for that .deb O_O
<diakopter> er, build
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<rwmjones> is bmeurer around?
<rwmjones> got an apparent regression in the arm backend in 4.02
<rwmjones> 054606
<rwmjones> ignore that number, it's my yubikey
<adrien> :P
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<mbac> it's off-topic but in between hacking ml i dj techno
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