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<nkar> is there a flag or an envvar that could be used to make ocamldep more verbose?
<rgrinberg> is there something like BatSubstring out there that isn't bound to batteries?
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<natrium1970> I can create a function with a labeled argument, like let f ~x:x1 = x1 + 1.
<natrium1970> What if I wanted to explicitly put a type annotation on the argument?
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<Drup> natrium1970: "let f ~x:x1:int = x1 + 1"
<natrium1970> If I don’t use the renaming part “~x:x1”, I can put an annotation like this, it appears: let g ~(x:int) = x + 1
<natrium1970> But I don’t know how to combine the two syntaxes.
<Drup> I just told you :)
<Drup> (you can also do "let f ~x:(x1:int) = x1 + 1")
<natrium1970> Thanks.
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<Drup> AltGr: well, good luck! ;)
<AltGr> :)
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<xavierm02> Hey. A few weeks ago, someone posted a gif showing something to search the doc really fast. Is this thing available somewhere? Thank you in advance for your answers.
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<Leonidas> how can I construct a Ctypes 'a typ from Ctypes types?
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<rks`> Leonidas: xavierm02: no, more like http://imgur.com/n1ZvdY0
<rks`> (I'm guessing)
<Leonidas> also, why does this say Ctypes is unknown? -package ctypes.foreign is specified right there: https://gist.github.com/Leonidas-from-XIV/b06afef1d1e55deeaa8e
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<xavierm02> rks` : Yes, that's it! Thank you :)
<rks`> you're welcome
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<Leonidas> whitequark: I believe there is some bug in executionengine, https://gist.github.com/Leonidas-from-XIV/b06afef1d1e55deeaa8e
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<Leonidas> I have to add ctypes.cma and reorder str and bigarray and then it dies while linking
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<Leonidas> whitequark: ok, I was wrong, it does work
<Leonidas> just our makefile is pretty bad and mixing ocamlfind with no-ocamlfind calls yields problematic results
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<dmbaturin> Does anyone use ocaml on centos? Where do you isntall libs from, other than opam?
<companion_cube> like most distributions, I think, only opam can provide recent enough libraries...
<dmbaturin> companion_cube: http://pastie.org/9760605 It's not just a question of recent enough libs, on centos it's question of any libs at all. :)
<dmbaturin> This is with centosplus and epel enabled.
<jonludlam> dmbaturin, I'm hoping to make an SCL for using ocaml on CentOS
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<jonludlam> the idea is to have a modern set of libraries that are usable as add-ons to centos
<jonludlam> which libraries are you interested in?
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<smondet> dmbaturin: I also use ocaml on centos; many C libs are outdated, good thing to avoid C dependencies as much as possible anyway :)
<dmbaturin> jonludlam: Cmdliner, RE and PCRE bindings, for instance. LWT. Also, tools like menhir.
<smondet> I use all of of those except PCRE
<smondet> (menhir indirectly)
<dmbaturin> smondet: From OPAM?
<Drup> dmbaturin: among those, only pcre needs C libs.
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<smondet> dmbaturin: yes form opam
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<dmbaturin> smondet: Do you only keep OPAM on the build machine?
<dmbaturin> jonludlam: Also, there are way more libs in the current fedora repos, so I guess for those without C deps it's just a question of including them into centos repos (although I didn't try to rebuild them yet).
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<smondet> dmbaturin: I "bootstrap" everything from opam, if that's what you mean (?)
<jonludlam> dmbaturin, I'm definitely mining fedora for spec files
<dmbaturin> smondet: How do you deploy compiled binaries on other machines?
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<jonludlam> We've got a load of spec files here: https://github.com/xenserver/buildroot/tree/master/SPECS, a subset of which will form the basis of the SCL. We don't currently have PCRE or menhir, but we've got the others you mentioned
<jonludlam> would you be willing to help?
<smondet> dmbaturin: I used to build RPMs, but now I need everything (to evaluate/compile ocaml) so I have opam + everything installed everywhere
<smondet> (an artifact of those RPM times is actually there: https://github.com/smondet/ocsibase/blob/master/src/app/ocsimgr.ml#L324 but it's very old, I dunno if it still can work)
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<Leonidas> I'd just use opam on centos and call it a day
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<Leonidas> whitequark: it would be good if the llvm-ocaml binding would expose llvm::DEBUG_METADATA_VERSION.
<Leonidas> we used to hardcode it to 1 but now it broke, since current versions have changed to 2 :-)
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<whitequark> Leonidas: patches accepted
<Leonidas> whitequark: alright, will look into this tomorrow
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<Leonidas> whitequark: can you tell me how to construct the proper type for get_pointer_to_global?
<Leonidas> I have no idea how to build a 'a Ctypes.typ for a function
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<whitequark> test/Bindings/OCaml/executionengine.ml
<whitequark> let cplusty = Foreign.funptr (int32_t @-> int32_t @-> returning int32_t) in
<whitequark> let cplus = get_pointer_to_global plus cplusty ee in
<whitequark> if 4l <> cplus 2l 2l then bomb "plus didn't work";
<Leonidas> I see
<Leonidas> I was missing the funptr part
<Leonidas> thanks :-)
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<Leonidas> bomb is a great name for that function
<whitequark> not my invention
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<Leonidas> what does the <3 x float> type map to in Ctypes? Is that just an 3 element array of floats?
<whitequark> it's a vector
<whitequark> I don't think these have a defined ABI
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<Leonidas> I suppose I can somehow construct these as llvalues and pass them to a function
<whitequark> no
<whitequark> after get_pointer_to_global, LLVM does not exist
<whitequark> well, could as well not exist
<whitequark> it's just you and your code, alone in a dark room
<whitequark> you're doing something weird. you shouldn't need to pass vectors across languages
<Leonidas> ah, because the pointer_to_global is just some native code in memory?
<whitequark> yes, it returns one
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<def`> whitequark: I have one request to improve performances of ppx in merlin, I am interested in your opinion
<Leonidas> well, our compiler generates these functions and I want to call them via executionengine
<Leonidas> I suppose I am doing something weird :-)
<whitequark> Leonidas: wrap them in something that exports only C ABI
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<def`> whitequark: merlin split the input in small chunks. right now, it spawns one process per chunk (so, n chunks and k extension = n * k processes, that might ont not scale)
<whitequark> ow
<def`> whitequark: what would be nice is to allow ppx extensions to process not just one structure or signature, but a batch
<Leonidas> that's a good idea, will see how to integrate that
<whitequark> i think what you need is for merlin to become a ppx driver
<def`> what would that imply ?
<def`> (all ppx extensions provide a cmxs)
<def`> (? )
<whitequark> hmm
<whitequark> I had a draft of a ppx driver "standard" somewhere
<whitequark> I need to resurrect it
<def`> a process with an interface like this could be enough:
<def`> cookie_map * [`Str of structure | `Sig of signature] list -> (cookie_map * [`Str of structure | `Sig of signature]) list
<whitequark> nah, see Ast_mapper.register
<whitequark> well, unfortunately it still involves temporary files
<whitequark> which is dumb
<whitequark> but it will work with most existing code and not require a new ocaml
<whitequark> which is good
<def`> what would still involves temporary files ?
<def`> (Couldn't we just use stdin/stdout?)
<whitequark> val register_function: (string -> (string list -> mapper) -> unit) ref
<whitequark> oh, wait
<whitequark> it returns mapper
<whitequark> nevermind, you can directly call it
<def`> well, do you have an example I could follow :') ?
<whitequark> yes
<def`> (and for the findlib ppx logic, I had to copy/paste from topfind, it might be worth improving the api)
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<whitequark> hmmm
<whitequark> I'll get back to you with an example in a moment
<def`> thank you
<def`> (send an email if am not on irc anymore)
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<companion_cube> looks like Toml's error locations are.... weird
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