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<lewis1711> I am building with corebuild but getting "Error: Unbound module String.Table". The file in question has "open Core" at the top.
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<lewis1711> is there some kind of IDE that gets rid of all of this annoying stuff? I can't for the life of me compile a project, and the documentation for the tools is bad. maybe I'll just try the ocamlc
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<seliopou> what's the lwt equivalent to Async's In_thread.run?
<companion_cube> what does this do? run in a separative preemptive thread?
<seliopou> yeah
<seliopou> i wanna throw potentially blocking operations in another thread and continue on
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<companion_cube> the 'detach' function should be what you want
<seliopou> ah of course
<seliopou> thanks
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<sspi> any tips on bridging ocaml with javascript?
<Drup> define "bridging"
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<sspi> Drup: I've got a function in OCaml and want to access it from JavaScript and vice versa
<c-c> from node?
<c-c> or perhaps you were looking for js_of_ocaml
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<Drup> http://ocsigen.org/js_of_ocaml/2.6/manual/bindings in particular, for the FFI.
<sspi> c-c: it should run preferably in either JSC or V8
<Drup> the emited javascript runs fine on either node or browser
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<sspi> I've no intention of transforming ocaml code to javascript
<sspi> javascript should just be javascript, and ocaml should just be ocaml, but I want to communicate between the two - that's why I'm looking for a bridge :)
<Drup> Oh.
<Drup> Nothing pre-made then
<Drup> Use sockets/pipe/C API
<Drup> (pick your sin)
<Drup> If I may, what is your use case exactly ?
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<sspi> Drup: using OCaml for lower level stuff, think rendering of shapes, images and text - and use JavaScript as an access layer to that - ideally I want everything to run on low end hardware
<sspi> not sure if it's feasible or realistic, but I can at least try :)
<Drup> yeah, nothing premade
<Drup> so it's going to depend a lot on your access patterns
<flux> well, there is a protocol buffers implementation for javascript..
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<flux> and for ocaml, as well as via Piqi
<flux> but it's not the complete solution
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<Drup> flux: depending on the access pattern, serialization might kill you, in this case, you need to play mmap games
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<reynir> Is 'mmap games' feasible in javascript?
<Drup> in node.js ? I guess
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<edwin> maybe you could create a svg and let the client render it
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<edwin> http://erratique.ch/software/vg/demos/rhtmlc see if these demos work fast enough in your case (they're using the 'vg' package from opam)
<edwin> and in this case the image generation runs in the browser too, but you could run that server side and send just the svg through I guess
<Drup> vg is slow.
<edwin> even with ocamlopt?
<Drup> yes
<Drup> I mean, it's fast enough for schemas and things, everything is
<flux> but it's probably nice to use?-)
<Drup> it's ok
<flux> maybe flambda speeds this kind of stuff up?-o
<Drup> No
<flux> what, the fathomable flambda optimizer doesn't solve everything?
<edwin> would using cairo directly (well via its ocaml binding) be faster?
<Drup> :D
<Drup> edwin: no either
<Drup> it's inherent to vg's internals and to some of it's constraints
<Drup> its*
<edwin> I mean cairo without vg, not vg with cairo backend
<Drup> ah, yeah, cairo alone is okish
<Drup> (but it's not vectorial)
<edwin> if you need something faster than cairo not sure what that would be, there are bindings to opengl in ocaml, but I haven't seen bindings to openvg (and openvg is not very widely available either)
<Drup> pure opengl would be faster, but it's annoying to do
<edwin> I do see a svg_cairo in ocaml-cairo though
<Drup> yeah ... it's rasterized svg :]
<edwin> but tbh browsers aren't very fast at rendering large SVGs. I tried 'perf timechart' a while ago and it created some huge SVGs that were almost impossible to navigate (zoom/pan) in a browser
<edwin> question is how large/complicated the images/shapes need to be for sspi's use case
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<sspi> edwin: mostly moving shapes, images and text
<Drup> sspi: and what is the reason you absolutely don't want to just compile the caml to javascript ?
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<sspi> Drup: it's too slow basically.
<sspi> Raspberry pi 1 is faster hardware then Im targetting
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<sbrouf> hello
<sbrouf> anyone knows of a multi-set library ?
<Anarchos1> sbrouf CCMultiSet
<Anarchos1> sbrouf i use it for a project
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<sbrouf> thanks
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<Drup> sspi: ok, then why javascript at all ? :D
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<Algebr`> what is a multi-set?
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<Drup> accept the same element multiple time
<pierpa> same as a bag, I think?
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<Algebr`> then what do lookups yield?
<def`> Algebr`: it's mostly a math tool
<def`> you can see it as generalizing mem to be
<def`> mem : elt -> int rather than mem : elt -> bool
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<Algebr`> neat
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<nullcatxxx_> anyone wants to help me with a camlp4 install problem? https://github.com/yallop/metaocaml-syb/issues/1
<Drup> nullcatxxx_: while you are, you should ping on your PR for []
<Drup> while you are here*
<nullcatxxx_> "No, we didn't have time to cover all pull requests and open bugs, and this one was not discussed, sorry."
<Drup> nullcatxxx_: it was not discussed
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<Drup> it doesn't mean it's not going to be accepted.
<nullcatxxx_> pinged..
<nullcatxxx_> again
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