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<Guest46891>
how much of a hassle is it to deal with an ocaml hashtable passed to the C side and playing with it there
<flux>
guest46891, I'm guessing much
<Guest46891>
(Algebr): yea, I'm guessing much too
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<Guest46891>
I thought this should have worked. Have a type foo, then in a module in do, type t = private foo, and then functions that give back foo but in that module with type t, I want to do :> t to results that give back foo
<Guest46891>
but getting that foo is not a subtype of t
<Guest46891>
I think I have it backwards
<flux>
no coercion is required, not sure what you're doing though: module Foo : sig type t = private int val mk : t val to_int : t -> int end = struct type t = int let mk = 42 let to_int x = x end
<flux>
oh, and of_int is the same
<Guest46891>
ah, nvm, I can just make the returning function more generic
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<Algebr>
I'm wondering how icky it is to use ocaml heap objects in another heap
<Algebr>
like say a C++ vector of ocaml values, how would that work..
<Algebr>
ah, register_global_root, err, this is quite a rabit whole
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<flux>
OCaml Template Library for C++ would be sweet.. :)
<flux>
(for ocaml/c++ interaction)
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<flux>
let's say I have type _ t = A: int t | B: char t
<flux>
the only way to put those into a list is to have type type t_holder = Holder: _ t -> t_holder, right?
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<flux>
ie. [Holder A; Holder B] works but [A; B] won't
<flux>
or is there a shortcut?
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<johnelse>
flux: I think that's the only way
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<flux>
I'm considering exposing GADTs in one library, but wondering if it's more trouble for the user than it is of benefit :)
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<Algebr`>
what is the thing that happens with hashtables where its a '_ and then set to a type? Weakly polymorphic?
<Algebr`>
I want to also do that
<mrvn_>
not polymorphic at all. it's monomorphic and the type can't escape it's scope without being resolved.
<Algebr`>
ah, the value restriction
<mrvn_>
yep
<Algebr`>
how can I purposefully cause this
<mrvn_>
not sure how you got that with hashtbl at all. put something in a ref?
<Algebr`>
hashtable has it
<Drup>
Algebr`: that's quite easy, make an abstract type that is not covariant
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<mrvn_>
usualy ocaml infers it on it's own.
<Drup>
mrvn_: OCaml infers variance for non abstract datatypes
<Drup>
but for abstract datatypes, you have to annotate it if you want to expose it, like `type +'a foo`
<mrvn_>
# type 'a t let make () = ((Obj.magic 0) : 'a t) let x = make ();;
<mrvn_>
Drup: exactly
<Drup>
mrvn_: any argument about what the typechecker infers or not should not be answered by a piece of code with Obj.magic in it u_u'
<companion_cube>
:D
<mrvn_>
Drup: only way to create an instance of an abstract type in short.
<Drup>
mrvn_: No.
<reynir>
heh
<Algebr`>
cheating
<mrvn_>
Algebr`: totaly
<mrvn_>
Drup: show example
<Drup>
(dammit, I need that instance of No, nicoo, please hurry)
<nicoo>
<3
<Drup>
module M : sig type t val make : unit -> _ t end = struct type t = int let make () = 3 end
<Drup>
type _ t*
<mrvn_>
mine is shorter
<mrvn_>
8-P
<Algebr`>
Drup: yours doesn't type check
<Algebr`>
ah wait with the _ t
<Drup>
mrvn_: my answer actually uses the language
<Drup>
Algebr`: yeah, fix the arity, sorry
<mrvn_>
# module M : sig type 'a t val make : unit -> _ t end = struct type 'a t = int let make () = 3 end;;
<mrvn_>
module M : sig type 'a t val make : unit -> 'a t end
<mrvn_>
Drup: like that? doesn't seem to be '_a t
<Drup>
try to use it.
<mrvn_>
sorry, forgot the signature doesn't show it.
<flux>
it does, though? it's covariant only if you use type +'a t ?
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<mrvn_>
flux: I ment the '_a t
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<infinity0>
anyone got some comments on ocaml-lens or any alternative to it?
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<wxfdglm>
hello
<reynir>
hello
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<wxfdglm>
have anyone tried opam-cross-android ? I have trouve compiling a basic program using the ndk makefiles
<wxfdglm>
I keep getting "undefined reference to 'caml_data_segments' ... " errors when linking to libasmrun
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<rgrinberg>
infinity0: i'm curious about how well flambda inlines ocaml-lens
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<infinity0>
rgrinberg1: re flambda / lens, what does that mean and how would i test it?
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<rgrinberg1>
infinity0: it seems like ocaml-lens would be awfully slow compared to normal field access without a lot of inlining/closure elimination
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<rgrinberg1>
luckily, flambda should do exactly that
<infinity0>
ah, k
<infinity0>
i guess i shall have to see. this is actually in a critical part of my code (a timer dispatcher) so i guess i have some incentive to look into this in more depth
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<zozozo>
how do I get Tyxml_js from opam packages ? I have tyxml installed, and just reinstalled js_of_ocaml, but can't seem to find the Tyxml_js module anywhere