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<rgrinberg> companion_cube: xmas releases \o/
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<companion_cube> ^^
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<raphinou> I'm trying to compile the vdom example https://github.com/LexiFi/ocaml-vdom/blob/master/examples/demo.ml following the instructions in the readme, but it complains about `Unbound module Vdom_ui`
<raphinou> should I add a -package flag for vdom_ui?
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<ocaml634> hello!
<ocaml634> new to ocaml...
<ocaml634> I'm using jane street's core
<ocaml634> module Node = struct type node = | Start of char | End of char | Regular of char with compare end include Comparable.Make(Node)
<ocaml634> and I've got an error with the `with` part of the code
<ocaml634> it says syntax error inside type, expecting end
<ocaml634> why might that be?
<ocaml634> thanks in advance!
<jerith> What's the "with compare" for?
<jerith> I'm not familiar with that.
<jerith> (I think that's what it's complaining about.)
<ocaml634> I'm trying to put Nodes into a set
<ocaml634> so there was this thing
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<jerith> I think the "with compare" needs a syntax extension.
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<ocaml634> i see
<ocaml634> how do i use that?
<jerith> I'm not actually sure, sorry.
<jerith> Maybe https://janestreet.github.io/installation.html has something useful?
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<ocaml634> i googled a bit and found that i've to enable syntax extensions in emacs
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<ocaml634> but how do i specify it in the .merlin file?
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<larhat> ocaml634: "with compare" is the old, camlp4 based syntax extension. You should probably use ppx-based one nowadays — https://github.com/janestreet/ppx_compare
<larhat> ocaml634: so you can install it via `opam install ppx_compare` and add it to .merlin/_tags
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<ocaml634> how do i add it to .merlin/_tags?
<ocaml634> is _tags a file, or a directory?
<ocaml634> what should the syntax be?
<ocaml634> thanks!
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<ocaml634> hi def`, i've read that, i really don't understand it...
<ocaml634> it says "Note: nowadays, PPX are the preferred way to extend the language. They can be specified like any other package. Other syntax extensions are deprecated and may disappear soon."
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<ocaml634> do i say EXT ppx_deriving
<ocaml634> ?
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<flux> ocaml634, I think PKG ppx_deriving?
<ocaml634> hmm i've tried that, doesn't seem to work
<ocaml634> let me try again
<flux> did you restart merlin after that?
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<ocaml634> nice, i think you're right
<ocaml634> PKG deriving.std works
<ocaml634> now [@@deriving ord] doesn't give an error
<ocaml634> i was trying to use the comparator from [@@deriving ord] to build a set
<ocaml634> let set_test = Set.of_list compare_node [Regular 'A'; Regular 'B']
<ocaml634> But there is a type mismatch between node -> node -> Ppx_deriving_runtime.int and ('a, 'b) Core_kernel.Comparator.t
<ocaml634> anyone has an example of how to use Set.of_list?
<flux> YourSet.of_list [1; 2; 3] ?-)
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<flux> it doesn't take a comparator, as the comparator is baked into the module YourSet
<flux> ah, so I see that you're using Set directly. are you using some extended standard library, ie. core?
<flux> plain ocaml sets are functorized, it seems yours aren't, so I guess the problem is your comparator
<flux> I think Core uses comparators that return something else then an integer
<octachron> Core comparators are a pair of a a comparison function + a type witness
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<octachron> in order to use a comparator, you need first to use Comparator.Make() to create the comparator from the comparison function
<ocaml634> yes, i'm using core.
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<mlly> hello does anybody know if the author of tsdl library wrote all the ctypes bindings by hand or used a generator?
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<mlly> ah it seems the project has been live since 2013
<mlly> really i am thankful to these people writing bindings which must be extremely painful :(
<mlly> wonder how doable it would be to generate these bindings from C headers using cil
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<_berke_> what happened to the custom bigarray indexing syntax?
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<octachron> _berke_, do you mean the `a.{0}` syntax or the proposition to make it more easily customizable?
<rgrinberg> companion_cube: I think the rss link on your blog is broken
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<companion_cube> hmm
<companion_cube> just when I'm already tired and angry because of jupyter
<companion_cube> rgrinberg: oh thanks, must be because of https
<companion_cube> rgrinberg: fixed
<companion_cube> was actually just a config issue ?!
<Armael> ygrek_: I wanted to use sqlgg, but found out it doesn't handle NULLs. I'm a complete SQL noob, is it not annoying in practice? or is using nullable columns considered bad practice?..
<_berke_> octachron: the customization
<_berke_>
<rgrinberg> companion_cube: not fixed yet for me. https://cedeela.fr/feeds//feeds/all.atom.xml
<companion_cube> the url is updated
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<ygrek_> Armael, it is a defect for sure, but for my usecases I could get away without NULLs
<Armael> okay
<ygrek_> but it can and should be improved one day :]
<Armael> so do you put like empty strings?
<Armael> ok :p
<ygrek_> usually all fields have valid data
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<octachron> _berke_, there was a syntax conflict with another potential language extension based on type-based disambiguation for array-like data type
<octachron> since the second proposition was much more complex and net yet completely implemented, and it was not possible to mesh the two proposition ideally, both proposition are lost in the limbo for now
<_berke_> octachron: thanks
<flux> funny how my ocaml doesn't anymore compile native binaries, seems to be because of debian
<flux> none of my old switches work, complain that I should recompile with recompile with -fPIC when linking libasmrun.a
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<flux> I guess I'll try switch 4.04.0, hadn't compiled that before
<_berke_> I tried 4.04.0 yesterday. with flambda it's unusable, it fails if you try to mutate a float variable in an objet. using 4.05 now
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<companion_cube> 4.03 is very usable
<Drup> octachron: couldn't you just exclude .[] of the possible index operators ?
<octachron> Drup, I could push harder for https://github.com/ocaml/ocaml/pull/622
<Drup> yeah
<octachron> I will see, but I am bit lacking energy for this kind of fight right now
<companion_cube> PRs on ocaml tend to have this effect :/
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<Drup> well, XL just pinged you, you should at least try to poll if people are ok with the idea
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<Leonidas> any caml people at 33c3?
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<lobo> Leonidas: jep. at the OpenLab Augsburg / NixOS / Curry-Club / Functional... assembly ;-)
<companion_cube> anyone willing to suffer and help me write a jupyter kernel library?
<mlly> what's jupyter?
<mlly> nvm
<companion_cube> jupyter-notebook, I mean
<companion_cube> (there's iocaml but it's for an old version of the protocol, and it's using its own custom zmq implem)
<companion_cube> and it uses threads instead of lwt
<companion_cube> (that being said, I started from their atdgen spec)
<mlly> companion_cube: do you use jupyter in your line of work?
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<companion_cube> no, just for a side project
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<companion_cube> well, it would also be useful for iocaml since iocaml doesn't support recent versions of jupyter
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<Drup> companion_cube: why does it matter that iocaml uses an old version of the protocol ? It works really well and you can even use browser-only notebooks ...
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<companion_cube> errr, it does not work with my version of the notebook
<companion_cube> nor does it handle the signature scheme
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<companion_cube> and in the current state, it's deeply tied to the ocaml kernel
<Drup> what do you mean it doesn't work ? It's extremly self contained
<Drup> (at least for the jsoo-powered one)
<companion_cube> oh, the jsoo one
<companion_cube> I was thinking of the one that used the regular jupyter infrastructure
<companion_cube> not pure JS
<companion_cube> something that can be used to write kernels for other languages, in other words
<companion_cube> or for OCaml + unix/C
<companion_cube> (the full OCaml)
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<Algebr> why would really_input and really_input_line block?
<Algebr> rather, get hung
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<Algebr> okay, never saw this exception before: Exception: Sys_blocked_io.
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<aantron> Algebr: are you using a channel in non-blocking mode?
<aantron> as for why it's blocking, assuming it was not in non-blocking mode before, perhaps because there was no input to read?
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