alyssa changed the topic of #panfrost to: Panfrost - FLOSS Mali Midgard & Bifrost - Logs https://freenode.irclog.whitequark.org/panfrost - <daniels> avoiding X is a huge feature
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<bbrezillon> narmstrong, HdkR: thank you
<bbrezillon> icecream95: Re "almost GLES 3.0 and GL 3.1 comformant". GLES conformant maybe, GL conformant no way
<bbrezillon> icecream95: I just asked to change that sentence, should be updated today
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<tomeu> it crashed in all the other Steam traces I tried
<narmstrong> nice !
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<icecream95> tomeu: Maybe https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/icecream95/mesa/-/commits/batch-flush would help with the OOMs?
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<neonking> hi all o/
<macc24> hello neonking
<neonking> i'm glad to be here, and first of all greetings to all devs who made panfrost, this might have been not an easy task
<neonking> also saw today that collabora implemented a vulkan driver draft :o
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<macc24> correct
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<HdkR> tomeu: Nice. Now we just need to get those applications running natively on panfrost capable boards :)
<macc24> if only therew was an emulator that could run x86 code fast on arm... like box86
<alyssa> macc24: especially x86_64 fast on modern armv8
<alyssa> we could call it "fast x86 emulator"
<macc24> yeah
<alyssa> Maybe Valve would be interested in that sort of thing?
<macc24> maybe
<alyssa> Sounds like the kinda thing HdkR might be into.
<macc24> hmmmm
<macc24> maybe we should convince him to do that?
<HdkR> pfft, dorks
<amonakov> can't properly emulate multicore amd64 on armv8 due to weaker memory model of the latter (hw needs to provide native TSO)
<HdkR> YOu can
<HdkR> It'll just tear across 16byte and 64byte boundaries
<macc24> close enough
<macc24> oh wait, byte, not gigabyte
<HdkR> AMD also tears across 64byte, not a big deal
<HdkR> 16byte also isn't resolved with ARM8v.1, Needs ARMv8.4 LSE2
<HdkR> 64byte is resolved with TME, which isn't in any CPU yet
<amonakov> HdkR: so how would you translate a plain store?
<HdkR> amonakov: Atomic store
<amonakov> but then it can't have an unaligned address, can it?
<HdkR> Catch the SIGBUS and translate it to an aligned 16byte LDAXP+STXLR loop
<HdkR> This is why it'll tear at 16byte and why LSE2 fixes that issue
<HdkR> LSE2 enables unaligned atomics
<alyssa> HdkR: ..wait, atomic store for a plain store? won't that nerf your perf?
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<HdkR> Yes. Yes it does.
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<macc24> HdkR: what if you just align it back?
<HdkR> You can't guarantee that
<amonakov> yeah, unaligned memcpy's are common, that's why I had "properly" in my initial message
<HdkR> It is proper aside from the tear on the edge
<amonakov> a sigbus for each store in an unaligned memcpy? how is it usable?
<HdkR> memcpy internally tries aligning the buffer. Usually ends up as a small number of unaligned moves compared to the whole buffer
<HdkR> It's a concession for correctness. We have some speed hacks that can be done around those to lighten the pain
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<HdkR> But with the majority of the SIGBUS going away with ARMv8.4? Kind of not a worry on post-hercules cores. Just need ARM to also provide a TSO enablement register like Apple :)
<alyssa> Looking forward to FEX on the M1 lol
<HdkR> Me too
<HdkR> We need native linux and prctl for that register :)
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<HdkR> Hm, Civ5 is 32bit but works. Needs perf improvements because of 32bit. Civ6 is 64bit and works, needs a timing bug figured out which means its rendering is half what it could be
<HdkR> Hollow Knight is Unity so that ends up with some roughness to support
<macc24> why
<HdkR> Its garbage collection signals require state reconstruction which will just take time to support
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