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<tankf33der> o/
<Regenaxer> Hi tankf33der
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<razzy> hi all ;]
<Regenaxer> Hi razzy!
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<razzy> lol, when i do something stupid, my computer stops responding, you would know because i quit :D
<razzy> if somebody is interested frequency word count on enwiki8100MB-wiki-dump https://ptpb.pw/IzX2/text
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<Regenaxer> Gives an empty page (?)
<razzy> dammed again :]
<razzy> it was 10MB it dropped
<Regenaxer> yeah, w3m loaded something a long time, but then was empty
<Regenaxer> hmm, it has HTML
<Regenaxer> but empty in w3m
<Regenaxer> np
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<razzy> i will change emacs, and later i will post
<razzy> now it is breaking my back
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<beneroth> hi all
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<Regenaxer> Hi beneroth
<beneroth> Guten Abend Regenaxer :)
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<razzy> Regenaxer: working fine https://ptpb.pw/6vWM
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<Regenaxer> yess :)
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<razzy> i cleaned up my emacs
<razzy> now it can handle moderate files :]
<razzy> 100MBs
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<razzy> anyone tried run picolisp on GPU?
<beneroth> for what?
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<razzy> well, i do not have use for it yet :]
<razzy> when you write anything even remotelly efective, it get the job done in notime
<beneroth> GPU have a different architecture than CPU
<beneroth> I would guess that the field of uses of GPUs vs. picolisp do not overlap much - they're optimized for different use cases
<razzy> beneroth: sure, i am just interested if it could be done
<beneroth> I doubt that picolisp could be optimally implemented on a GPU - maybe a subset of it
<beneroth> I don't know much about GPU architecture, others may be able to give you a better insight
<razzy> picolisp being so small :]
<beneroth> GPUs are afaik optimized for number crunching (e.g. graphic shader calculations) and are expected to be used for some limited set of operations - while a CPU is a general purpose computing hardware
<razzy> beneroth: i think picolisp(all proper lisps) is badly implementable in current architecture
<beneroth> of course you can use libraries specialized to use GPU for something with picolisp (see (native))
<beneroth> razzy, well the hardware is optimized for C-style - probably not to be compared with a lisp machine
<beneroth> one picolisp guy is working on picolisp hardware
<razzy> i love FPGA idea
<razzy> you could buy FPGA as with RPI addon
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<Regenaxer> razzy, check PilMCU, PicoLisp on FPGA
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<razzy> checked
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<razzy> hmm, i do not get idx. is it tree?
<razzy> i would like to make graph with multiple nodes possibly n:n
<razzy> and i want to naigate it
<razzy> navigate it
<razzy> and A->B is not the same as B->A
<Regenaxer> Yes, idx is a binary tree. I think you need objects with links beween them
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<Regenaxer> The DB does that too, but is perhaps overkill
<Regenaxer> +Link and +Joint
<razzy> thx,.. binarry tree :] awesome :]
<Regenaxer> uh, well ... basic
<razzy> you want computer to have well thought basics :]
<Regenaxer> true :)
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<razzy> do you have some nice example? pls?
<Regenaxer> For DB objects, or without DB?
<razzy> without DB
<razzy> just nodes and relations
<Regenaxer> I have no good example. What comes close is the form GUI in @lib/form.l
<Regenaxer> bi-directional pointers between form and objects derived from +gui
<Regenaxer> lists of components and charts
<razzy> i found rossetta djiskra algorithm
<razzy> but it is made from lists
<razzy> i want cca 1000 nodes
<razzy> up to 1000 nodes
<razzy> with relations cca bode to 4 others
<razzy> *node to 4 others
<Regenaxer> There is 'grid' in @lib/simul.l
<Regenaxer> 2-dim
<Regenaxer> (grid 100 100) gives 10000 nodes
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<razzy> i will check it out
<Regenaxer> 'grid' is used in many examples, also in rosetta
<Regenaxer> And also in games/chess.l
<Regenaxer> tankf33der became an extreme user of 'grid' :)
<razzy> but i want relations between arbitrary nodes right?
<Regenaxer> yes, so you can easily add
<Regenaxer> set links from any node to any other
<razzy> grids are one way how to think about world
<Regenaxer> %
<Regenaxer> T
<razzy> 2D 3D 4D grids :}
<Regenaxer> This grid function uses the value for the 4 links
<Regenaxer> I would add further links in properties
<Regenaxer> or any other attributes
<Regenaxer> "Forest fire" in rosetta is cute
<razzy> locally computed :]
<razzy> games of life?
<Regenaxer> yes, quite the same
<Regenaxer> just spreading fires
<razzy> :D
<Regenaxer> "Forest fire" is also in the PilBox demo, using a Canvas
<Regenaxer> I like it, cause it is so simple
<razzy> simple is not opposite of powerfull
<Regenaxer> yep
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<beneroth> simple IS powerful
<beneroth> concentrated power!
<Regenaxer> double-T
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<beneroth> bbl
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<Regenaxer> Me too. Good night!
<Regenaxer> afp
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<razzy> will do
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<razzy> some comments could be nice :]
<razzy> or i just step it through
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