07:54 <Nistur> mornin'

07:57 <Regenaxer> Hi Nistur

07:58 <Nistur> greetings

08:52 <beneroth> Hi Regenaxer, Greetings Nistur

09:15 <Regenaxer> Hi beneroth

12:22 <Regenaxer> Haha, rick42, cool term “caveman optimization”

12:24 <Regenaxer> and the whole text is an excellent explanation!

12:24 <Regenaxer> I like the lines aka "Uses: de, list, diff, append"

12:25 <beneroth> what, where?

12:27 <Regenaxer> Rick wrote an article, I assume I can tell here

12:27 <Regenaxer> http://the-m6.net/blog/facets-of-a-toy-problem/

12:27 <Regenaxer> Not published yet, so pssss

12:28 <beneroth> ok... *pssst*

12:28 <beneroth> Will enjoy reading it

12:28 <beneroth> but gotta go now :/

12:28 <beneroth> see you around!

12:28 <beneroth> bbl

12:28 <beneroth> have a nice afternoon

12:28 <Regenaxer> you too!

12:39 <Regenaxer> rick42, I've checked all. Looks very good

12:40 <Regenaxer> BTW, I like your patient way of explaining things

13:36 <Nistur> aha, I was talking to my brother about this (and other similar) problems at the weekend

16:00 <rick42> hi pil peeps!

16:00 <rick42> Nistur, neat coincidence! :D

16:00 <rick42> thanks, Regenaxer, for the review!

16:00 <Regenaxer> Hi rick42, Nistur!

16:15 <rick42> the article was not written for the experienced programmer obviously, but as you surmised, for the less experienced, maybe new to picolisp, lover of puzzles :), etc., but there is something to be had for the experienced programmer too; maybe: (i) seeing a different way of looking at / tackling a problem, (ii) seeing a different application language (which is why I think devices such as the "Uses:" links help the exp

16:15 <rick42> erienced as well as the not-so).

16:20 <Regenaxer> yes, perfect

16:23 <rick42> there is also an economic consideration that I didn't get into: when a professional has to decide how to spend limited resources (usually time) to build something for a client.

16:23 <rick42> the question is often: do you "go all out" and spend the time to develop the most general and sophisticated method possible, or is it better to spend less time and tackle a /particular/ problem?

16:23 <rick42> The latter choice also allows you to spiral, if the client ask you for more, and i have found that the short time spent on the toy/particular problem also helps to inform the more general method that would be devleoped (if called for).

16:23 <rick42> usually, I find that the answer the latter.

16:23 <rick42> hence, the time spent on the toy is NOT wasted.

16:23 <rick42> and all these observations from a little puzzle! ha! :)

16:25 <Regenaxer> ☺

16:26 <rick42> Regenaxer: i was going to s/Uses:/RTFM:/g, but decided not to. lol :D

16:27 <Regenaxer> haha ;)

16:27 <rick42> Regenaxer: what happened with the crashes from yesterday? Are you and tankf33der still on it?

16:28 <Regenaxer> Not at the moment. I'm on a business trip. But thi *must* be investigated

16:30 <rick42> ok. all the best!

16:31 <Regenaxer> Thanks!

16:31 <Regenaxer> It is a very mysterious bug

16:32 <rick42> T

16:33 <beneroth> back

16:33 <beneroth> have a good and safe trip, Regenaxer !

16:33 <beneroth> you rick42 buddy o/

16:33 <rick42> \o

16:33 <Regenaxer> thx beneroth

16:33 <beneroth> s/you/yo xD

16:33 <rick42> oh yes, safe travels, Regenaxer!

16:33 <rick42> :)

16:34 <rick42> beneroth: wassup m8?

16:34 <beneroth> :)

16:35 <rick42> btw i read the message on the ML about "u.s. software". can't say i disagree :)

16:35 <rick42> bloat is terrible

16:37 <rick42> i think OP was alarmed at "the future is dark"

16:37 <beneroth> yeah first I only read the subject and though "ah is someone opening that can again.. noez..." but no, it follows the law of click-bait question headers (the answer is always no)

16:39 <rick42> hahaha T

21:41 <aw-> rick42: awesome article, again! i like how you provide links to each function ref's documentation

21:51 <beneroth> hi aw- :)

22:36 <aw-> hi beneroth