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<rjeffries> Maxim part provides complete USB host, speaks SPI to whatever MCU (e.g. Ben's Ingenic SOC). $4.85 Before you ask, "No, I am not competent to design this into something that plugs into Ben's 8:10 port. But thanks for asking.;)"
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<akiwiguy> Hmm.
<akiwiguy> My dad is an electronics engineer. And he's teaching me slowly how to lay out PCBs and wire stuff up
<akiwiguy> So soon I could be handy with that stuff :P
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<cts_> hello and good (european :) morning! I have at hand a nanonote which will not boot up and will not go into USB mode any more - neither by pressing U nor by shortening the USB pins on the back. could anyone here give me a hand with this, please?
<xiangfu> cts_, Hi
<xiangfu> good morning.
<xiangfu> cts_, how you short the USB Pins?
<xiangfu> cts_, what I always do is run 'watch lsusb' in one terminal. and keep trying to short the USB pins.
<xiangfu> cts_, we will bring your nanonote back. :)
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<cts_> sorry, my nose started bleeding :(
<cts_> xiangfu: as for the shortening; i have tried aluminum foil behind the battery and finally reverted to just using a tiny bit of solder; i tested the short to be ok.
<xiangfu> cts_, oh~~ there is a HOT girl? :)
<cts_> xiangfu: no, just very, very dry office air.
<xiangfu> cts_, you mean you soldering those two pins now?
<cts_> xiangfu: yes, I dropped just a tiny bit of solder. it's removed now, though andthe pads are clean / seperated again.
<cts_> separated.
<xiangfu> cts_, ok. you can try to 1. remove the battery. 2. short those two pins 3. press the reset hole at the back of nanonote.
<xiangfu> cts_, see if the 'watch lsusb' show 4740?
<cts_> xiangfu: no, it just shows my usb (root)-hubs and the keybord. I'v alredy tried using another port, another computer even and another cable...
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<cts_> stefan_schmidt: ahh. another schmidt. ;)
<stefan_schmidt> cts_: not really hard to find around here. :)
<cts_> stefan_schmidt: yes, we are aplenty.
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<xiangfu> cts_, if you sure those two pins are short. this maybe a hardware problem.
<cts_> xiangfu: yes, I suppose. my hardware dealer wanted to make sure I have talked to you guys before we exchange the unit.
<xiangfu> cts_, you can soldering those two pins , and try again. :D. just double check. no needs battery. just soldering and press reset HOLE.
<xiangfu> 1. soldering those two pins. 2. connect ben nanonote to computer 3. press the RESET HOLE.
<cts_> xiangfu: without the battery inserted or with the battery inserted?
<xiangfu> wothout the battery inserted.
<cts_> opk, will do.
<cts_> ok.
<xiangfu> nanonote can boot with USB power.
<cts_> there it is!! yay!!
<cts_> xiangfu: 601a:4740 (...)
<xiangfu> yes.
<cts_> looks good. now I can just do a "normal" reflash, right?
<xiangfu> that is nanonote in usb mode
<xiangfu> cts_, yes.
<cts_> xiangfu: it's alive again. what a good way to start a day! ;)
<xiangfu> cts_, now you can reflash the latest version :D
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<cts_> xiangfu: everything's fine again. thank you for your support and thanks to Qi for building such a fine, error-resillient hardware!
<xiangfu> cts_, thanks for buy and play nanonote. :D
<cts_> xiangfu: you are with the manufacturer, right? who would I contact for a nannonote-based audioplayer hardware the company I work for is seeking? I was planning on presenting the device beginning of next year (we do background music for hotels and cruise ships), tha hardware seems to be a good/nice fit.
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<xiangfu> cts_, I am a software people. Sharism is hardware manufacturer , (Qi hardware is the project name)
<xiangfu> cts_, nanonote-based audio player, what is Ben Nanonote missing compare to your 'audioplayer' ?
<xiangfu> Sharism is the manufacturer of Ben Nanonote.
<cts_> xiangfu: nothing. that's the beauty. I haven't tested the quality of the sound output, but adding a "real" soundcodec to the board shouldn't be that much of a problem for a company that can read the Qi designs (I can't... ;). Else it has a display, it boots fairly quickly and has a few buttons - perfect.
<xiangfu> cts_, great. you can send this idea to mailing list ( http://lists.en.qi-hardware.com/mailman/listinfo/discussion ). people there will give you more idea.
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<cts_> xiangfu: thanks, I will do that.
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<xiangfu> cts_, if it only for play music. you still needs modify the system. like direct to the music player. etc.
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<cts_> xiangfu: sure, but building that up from what's already there shouldn't be too much of a problem. we really don not wnt to go through the process of having someone build a custom hardware (simply because the company is not big enough and noon has any experience in this).
<wpwrak> cts_: would you need to modify the case ?
<cts_> wpwrak: probably not (if we stay with the built-in audio codec) - as the device just ignores if the lid is open or closed it should be fine.
<wpwrak> kewl. we don't have design control of the case, so that would have been a bit of a problem :)
<wpwrak> fwiw, the SoC has a "real" ac97 audio codec. not sure if the output circuit meets your needs, though
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<lars_> it is not a ac97 codec
<wpwrak> hmm. does the data sheet lie then ?
<wpwrak> ah, i see what you mean. only the digital side
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<cts_> and exactly the audio conversion "behind" the DAC seems to be a bit too much on the consumer side of things ;)
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<wpwrak> you mean the analog circuit ?
<lars_> the internal codec is really crappy
<wpwrak> so it's the DAC itself
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<qwebirc68256> hello
<mstevens> hello
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<deneme> so the only way to disable boot-logo is to reinstall the modified kernel, huh?
<deneme> there is no config?
<C-Keen> the boot logo is compiled in
<deneme> hmm
<deneme> kay
<C-Keen> I don't know whether it can be switched off via a command line option
<deneme> I am guessing not...
<C-Keen> you can try the logo.nologo option
<C-Keen> logo.nologo [FB] Disables display of the built-in Linux logo.
<C-Keen> This may be used to provide more screen space for
<C-Keen> kernel log messages and is useful when debugging
<C-Keen> kernel boot problems.
<deneme> either way, I still got plenty of configuration to do. I could postpone the logo config
<deneme> but, hmm
<C-Keen> deneme: if you just switch it off, it is a cheap shot :)
<deneme> ehh... Ill come to that later
<mth> which boot logo do you mean? the very first one is in the dual boot loader, the second one is in the kernel
<mth> the one in the kernel is easy to disable, it's an option in the kernel config
<mth> disabling the one in the boot loader would require changing the boot loader code
<mth> why do you want to disable the logo?
<C-Keen> ok which HW are we talking about?
<deneme> ahem, ben
<mth> ah sorry, wrong channel
<mth> I assumed the Dingoo boot procedure
<deneme> yeah :)
<C-Keen> close enough ;)
<deneme> fyi, why I want to disable it is because I have to 'clear' after boot to use the console
<deneme> maybe I could run a script to do that at user-login
<deneme> I dunno
<mth> the boot logo should disappear at some point during the boot, doesn't it?
<deneme> perhaps with gui
<mth> on non-X PC installs the logo is no longer there by the time the login prompt appears
<mth> maybe they have something in the startup scripts for that
<deneme> I dont know tbh. In a normal pc I would edit grub
<deneme> Ill have to play with it a bit, I guess
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<deneme> watch ifconfig usb0
<deneme> sorry, wrong window
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<deneme> exit
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<qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: m1rc3/norruption/4/LOG: detailed log of the M1pre-rc4 tests (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/ce6a4d8
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<GordonFreeman> The Advanced Access Content System (AACS) is a standard for content distribution and digital rights management. It was developed by AS Licensing Administrator, LLC (AACS LA), a consortium that includes Disney, Intel, Microsoft, Panasonic, Warner Bros., IBM, Toshiba, and Sony.
<GordonFreeman> n00bs will never stop creating crap
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