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<viric>
It seems the term 'geek' is already used by the people that mainly buy smartphones and install applets
<viric>
or apps, whatever they are called
<erikkugel>
yes, today geeks are simply early adapters.
<viric>
soon my mother watching a tv, will be called 'a hacker'
<larsc>
she's a hacker if she changes your facebook status if you didn't logout after using facebook from her pc
<viric>
amazing
<viric>
Someone told me a site "for geeks"
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<larsc>
twitter.com?
<viric>
and it was like a news page for people spending money on new popular devices
<larsc>
thinkgeek.com?
<viric>
:)
<viric>
It was not english
<viric>
geeks.cat
<viric>
I guess you'll understand all topics through 'key words'
<larsc>
yet hipsters.cat is still free
<viric>
yes, strange.
<viric>
:)
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<wpwrak>
now we know the catalan word for "consumerism" :)
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<viric>
consumisme. :)
<wpwrak>
i thought you said it was "geeks" ;)
<wpwrak>
btw, there is a bit of a renaissance: once upon a time, you weren't considered a geek if you didn't know how to make the blinking 00:00 on your VCR go away
<wpwrak>
nowadays, you are a geek (the retro kind) if you still have a VCR. and the 00:00 is now a cultural statement.
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<kyak>
don't hold this word for yourself if it's already spoiled, come up with a new one :)
<wpwrak>
(the funai variant of that was the first VCR in my family. had more metal than a small tank. about 20 kg.)
<viric>
what is funai?
<viric>
umh I think I've something similar to that picture, though :)
<wpwrak>
Funai is or was a company that made/sold, among other things, this sort of VCR
<wpwrak>
(similar) complete with wired remote control ? :)
<viric>
no, no wired remote control :)
<wpwrak>
too modern then
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<whitequark>
what, again, was that sort of USB Ethernet which wasn't CDC?
<whitequark>
ECM
<whitequark>
oooh crap. so we have RNDIS, CDC Eth, ECM, EEM and NCM
<whitequark>
someone went committee-happy
<wpwrak>
use usb-uart with SLIP :)
<wpwrak>
or "term", if you prefer a more traditional approach
<wpwrak>
if you hate multitasking, kermit is your solution
<wpwrak>
no need for all that modern stuff
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<whitequark>
wpwrak: CDC ECM is indeed simpler than SLIP
<whitequark>
and more efficient
<whitequark>
gah, not CDC
<whitequark>
can't they give reasonable names to these standards?!
<wpwrak>
why ? CDC = Center for Disease Control
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<whitequark>
meh. it would rather spread the disease :s
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<lindi->
whitequark: those different ethernet modes were afaik mostly due to the fact that cheap hardware lacked sufficient number of endpoints
<lindi->
whitequark: so if you wanted to implement both serial and ethernet and mass storage on the same device you had to come up with a custom scheme
<whitequark>
lindi-: what's the "proper" one to use, given enough endpoints?