01:25 <hellekin> DocScrutinizer05: Sarava has some puppet repositories that might be helpful https://git.sarava.org/

01:32 <hellekin> DocScrutinizer05: If you can read Portuguese, there's a companion site: https://padrao.sarava.org/

01:33 <hellekin> (most of it is shell anyway ;o)

02:10 <qi-bot> [commit] Maarten ter Huurne: Use reference to SurfaceCollection in Menu::paint() (packages) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/4a392a9

02:10 <qi-bot> [commit] Maarten ter Huurne: Call Menu::skinUpdated() earlier in initMenu() (packages) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/f71ea3b

02:10 <qi-bot> [commit] Maarten ter Huurne: Cleanups of Clock class (packages) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/a15339d

02:10 <qi-bot> [commit] Maarten ter Huurne: Made Clock simpler and more reliable (packages) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/9158b90

02:10 <qi-bot> [commit] Maarten ter Huurne: Made Clock destruction safe (packages) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/9e1f717

02:10 <qi-bot> [commit] Maarten ter Huurne: Clock: Update current time atomically (packages) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/4662603

15:10 <DocScrutinizer05> hellekin: thanks, but no idea what to do with puppet

15:11 <DocScrutinizer05> sounds like a apache plugin

15:11 <hellekin> DocScrutinizer05: it just offers a simple reference to actual configuration

15:11 <hellekin> puppet is a configuration tool

15:12 <hellekin> configuration management tool. Like Chef or Babushka

15:16 <DocScrutinizer05> that sounds interesting, though not the topic I need right now. I'm more interested in "which distro to use", "how to set up sshd and accounts", "how to syslog", "notes on NFS", "how to backup", "building a team hierarchy, or `why not everybody is a sysop`", "check your server for vulnerabilities", etc pp

15:20 <DocScrutinizer05> I have some ideas for most of those topics, but for sure could use some more learning about it

15:21 <DocScrutinizer05> thinking about something like "O'Railey - server administration. 1349p."

15:25 <DocScrutinizer05> sth like this: https://speakerdeck.com/futureshocked/a-linux-server-administration-tutorial-for-beginners - maybe a tad more for experts and preferably a book

15:29 <DocScrutinizer05> http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialSysAdmin.html -- dunno, just asking if somebody can recommend something

15:34 <DocScrutinizer05> ^^^ this one is nonsense mostly, it just has a list of cmds it seems. No *info* at all, like "don't allow password authentication. Change all your accounts to ssh with pubkeys", or "there are 3 tools most commonly used for backup of server clusters: ..."

15:37 <DocScrutinizer05> LOL >>Add system swap space for virtual memory paging:

15:37 <DocScrutinizer05> Swap space may be a swap partition, a swap file or a combination of the two. One should size swap space to be at least twice the size of the computer's RAM. (but less than 2GB)<< KTHNX

15:37 <pcercuei> do you guys use udev on the nanonote's OS?

15:40 <larsc> no

15:40 <larsc> mdev

15:41 <pcercuei> I want to start a daemon when a network interface becomes available, but it doesn't seem to be supported by mdev, unfortunately

15:45 <larsc> I must admit I have not the slightest clue about these things

15:47 <pcercuei> ok

15:50 <DocScrutinizer05> hellekin: e.g. >>The user id (uid) numbers and the group id (gid) numbers on both systems MUST match to preserve sanity. Check the numbers used in /etc/passwd and /etc/group. Typically this problem is solved by using a single point of authentication. Use NIS or LDAP.<<( http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialSysAdmin.html#MOUNTNFS ) doesn't help me, we don't have in-sync user/group numbers on different servers. I need a

15:50 <DocScrutinizer05> tutorial that explains how to handle such special cases.

15:54 <hellekin> DocScrutinizer05: the link in Portuguese I sent you cover those topics. Also, https://we.riseup.net/ might have some sysadmin group. I know there is some docs relative to that on riseup

15:54 <DocScrutinizer05> thanks :-9

15:54 <DocScrutinizer05> :-)

16:01 <DocScrutinizer05> btw just in case you're curious: the above mentioned issue with in-sync groups/users for NFS is moot, as long as your users have no more than 16 auxiliary groups, and you're not on friggin ubuntu-12.04+ which enables a idiotic "workaround" by default for NFS

16:03 <DocScrutinizer05> we had much fun when updating ubuntu and suddenly all our file permissions didn't work anymore as supposed, on NFS

16:05 <DocScrutinizer05> (there's a NFS "option" [actually botch] that makes NFS use passwd/groups of client instead those of server)

17:32 <hellekin> hehe

17:33 <hellekin> nfs fun