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<mth>
projects.qi-hardware.com is not responding, does anyone know what is going on?
<kyak>
i'm wondering how's paying for qi-hardware.com anyway? and isn't it going to disappear silently one day, just like sharism?
<kyak>
/how/who
<ysionneau>
let's hope not
<kyak>
i think maybe ill clone openwrt packages to github just to be safe :) theres too much work
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<ysionneau>
if anyone has a local clone then it's safe :)
<ysionneau>
that's the beauty of git
<ysionneau>
but indeed keeping a public repo is nice
<wpwrak>
kyak: nobody knows. wolfgang pays for the servers and maintains them. so silent disappearance is a possibility
<viric>
this is internet. everything disappears.
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<kyak>
ysionneau: im almost sure that if openwrt-packages repo disappears right now, there is not a single person with an up to date clone :)
<kyak>
viric: in fact, this is internet and everything is kept forever :)
<kyak>
pieces of qi-hardware will float in google cache long after it will be gone
<viric>
yes, enough pieces to let you know "it was there, but it is lost"
<kyak>
wpwrak: that's a pity.. especially the lack of information (considering that it was about freedom when it all started)
<kyak>
lack of information is very opposite to freedom
<ysionneau>
well indeed lack of information is really sad
<ysionneau>
anyone is free to change its interest and to do whatever he wants
<ysionneau>
but to inform would be nice so that the situation is clear and people could organize / reorganize
<kyak>
thats true
<viric>
trust in people should be the last resort. :)
<wpwrak>
yeah, just "fading away" seems a bit uncharacteristic. don't know what happened. maybe too much exposure to chinese culture ? ("saying something would mean admitting failure. let's just not talk about it anymore.")
<viric>
that algorithm between quotes reminds me of indians. :)
<viric>
dot indians, not feather indians.
<kyak>
that might sound strange, but does anybody know if wolfgang is even fine? i mean, if i disappear one day, you wouldnt even know that im in fact very dead
<qi-bot>
[commit] Maarten ter Huurne: Removed the word "Color" from the labels in the skin settings menu (packages) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/dfa5413
<qi-bot>
[commit] Maarten ter Huurne: Removed checks for manuals and screenshots in JPEG and BMP format (packages) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/8472acc
<kyak>
!seen wolfspra*
<qi-bot>
kyak, I found 3 matches to your query: wolfspraul, wolfspra1l, wolfspra2l. wolfspraul (~wolfsprau@brln-4db8068c.pool.mediaWays.net) was last seen joining #qi-hardware 4 hours 56 minutes ago (14.08. 10:02). wolfspraul is still there.
<kyak>
oh.. i disabled joins/parts/quits - sorry :)
<mth>
anyway, the git server came back to life
<kyak>
with many object-oriented commits --)
<mth>
not so many this time; previous pushes had more refactoring in them
<mth>
although yesterday I nuked an abstract base class because it was adding more complexity than it was worth
<mth>
and it turned out that moving the base class's functionality into its two subclasses actually made the code shorter
<viric>
class inheritance is evil
<viric>
people who built that functionality made it look as if there were many situations where to apply it
<mth>
I do prefer interface inheritance + composition in most cases, yes
<kyak>
object-oriented programming makes me feel stupid -/
<viric>
kyak: it is a trap
<viric>
it's like nodejs trap on callbacks. "It's all callbacks! Easy!"
<kyak>
programming is trap!
<viric>
yes, quite. :)
<viric>
learn C, it's easy.
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<viric>
(then you need to find an editor, a compiler, learn how to call it, how the OS will let you run programs, ...
<viric>
)
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<kyak>
i did finish K&R recently btw
<viric>
but C is easy
<viric>
kyak: next, "The practice of programming" :)
<kyak>
viric: reading smart books without actually writing code is a waste of time anyway )
<viric>
or "The unix programming environment"
<kyak>
ah yes, that one should be intetesting
<viric>
reading a book about programming feels close to programming though. :)
<kyak>
looking at a girl feels close to having sex, right? -)
<ysionneau>
I don't wanna think about what you feel when looking at a dog then
<kyak>
that conversation has gone wrong way )
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<ysionneau>
indeed :)
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