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nokada >
does rubygems pass any options to extconf.rb?
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_ko1 >
who's ticket?
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_ko1 >
i can't catch up discussion
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nokada >
extconf.rb created in test_build_extensions_with_build_args doesn't call create_makefile, so the directory can't be made
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nokada >
drbrain: what do you expect in this test?
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drbrain >
nokada: in 1.9.3, it seems `make install` creates lib/msgpack.bundle
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drbrain >
even though lib/ does not exist
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drbrain >
but in 2.0.0, `make install` creates lib when lib/ does not exist
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drbrain >
nokada: it is compounded by rubygems editing Makefile
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drbrain >
nokada: perhaps RubyGems is wrong and mkrn's patch is correct, but I want to be sure
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nokada >
at least, the test seems testing nothing
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nokada >
dumped Makefile just after @installer.build_extensions, but it contains just 4 lines
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nokada >
it does nothing
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nokada >
install-so line has no timestamp_file in the dependency list
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nokada >
mf = mf.gsub(/\s*\S+\.time$/, "")
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nokada >
this is the reason
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nokada >
to fix parallel make issue, mkmf now uses dependency to mkdir destdir
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drbrain >
nokada: sorry, I had to fix my ceiling leak, I think due to mf = mf.gsub(/\s*\S+\.time$/, "") it is a rubygems bug, then
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drbrain >
nokada: the test for mkrn's patch is only for rubygems using a dummy makefile, I don't want to depend on mkmf.rb behavior
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zzak >
can you use gsub on your ceiling?
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drbrain >
it's more a matter of gsub! on the tub overflow connection
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nokada >
トムソーヤは今日もトムソーヤだな
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nokada >
PPC64とかどうやってチェックするんだよ
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drbrain >
nokada: ?
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nurse >
Could you speak English?
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drbrain >
google translate is not very useful
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nurse >
I guess he missed a channel
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nokada >
I said "how I can check PPC64"
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drbrain >
I don't know anyone who has PPC64 :(
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nokada >
Don't mind, it's probably a mistake in the test
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zzak >
but i think they were using rdoc 3.x on trunk, which doesn't work
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zzak >
3.x probably doesn't know about %i
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marcandre >
zzak: Hi! Do you have the time to review the doc for Thread.pending_interrupt (before 2.0.0 release)?
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marcandre >
I think it could use some help. There's a least a typo (defferred).
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zzak >
marcandre: i'd love to
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marcandre >
I'll add them to the NEWS file...
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zzak >
marcandre: do you know which tickets i should look for?
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zzak >
looks like r38046?
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marcandre >
There's also a new Thread.handle_interrupt
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marcandre >
also lacking from the NEWS.
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_ko1 >
marcandre: no pending interrupt?
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zzak >
where was handle_interrupt introduced?
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marcandre >
I'm adding these two methods to the NEWS, and zzak will improve the language
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zzak >
i dont see it i must be blind :(
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_ko1 >
i'm so sorry...
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marcandre >
thread.c:1741
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marcandre >
zzak: handle_interrupt is also in r38046. Are you looking for the code itself?
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marcandre >
_ko1: No problem, I'm just glad I noticed it was missing.
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zzak >
marcandre: yeah, i was looking at the diff
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zzak >
i found it in thread.c though
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zzak >
ive got to work on Thread#backtrace_locations too, so i can kill 2 birds
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marcandre >
with pending_interrupt?, that's more like 3 :-)
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zzak >
3 birds, probably 2 commits
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zzak >
marcandre: thanks for the push btw
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marcandre >
zzak: which push?
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zzak >
marcandre: a push in the right direction, and giving me something to do tonight :)
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zzak >
it was this or Rake's man page haha
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marcandre >
zzak: There's actually both the instance method and the singleton method pending_interrupt? that was added
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zzak >
isn't there #to_h now?
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marcandre >
There is no Array#to_h...
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marcandre >
Mmm, WeakMap is not in the NEWS either...
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marcandre >
Nor are the new goodies for InstructionSequence
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zzak >
what about ObjectSpace::reachable_objects_from ?
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marcandre >
Mmm, need to modify my script to check Modules, not just Classes.
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marcandre >
I get a strange unnamed exception class in 2.0.0... Anyone knows where it comes from?
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_ko1 >
* new method:
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_ko1 >
* ObjectSpace.reachable_objects_from(obj)
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_ko1 >
ah, InstructionSequence...
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_ko1 >
InstructionSequence.of is secret,but powerful feature
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marcandre >
_ko1: secret? It won't be after I put it in the NEWS :-)
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_ko1 >
maybe this is not a Ruby's feature
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_ko1 >
VM dependent feature :)
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marcandre >
RubyVM are implementation dependant by definition. Still they should be in NEWS
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_ko1 >
it's joking -> secret
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marcandre >
Can anyone explain how come `rubydev -e "p Exception.public_instance_methods(false).include? :respond_to?"` prints true?
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_ko1 >
ruby 2.0.0dev (2012-12-21 trunk 38515) [i386-mswin32_100]
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marcandre >
Same with :method_missing, and :respond_to_missing?
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_ko1 >
ruby 2.0.0dev (2013-02-22 trunk 39382) [i686-linux]
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_ko1 >
$ ./miniruby -ve 'p Exception.public_instance_methods(false).include? :method_missing'
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_ko1 >
ruby 2.0.0dev (2013-02-22 trunk 39382) [i686-linux]
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_ko1 >
d$ ./miniruby -ve 'p Exception.public_instance_methods(false).include? :respond_to_missing?'
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_ko1 >
ruby 2.0.0dev (2013-02-22 trunk 39382) [i686-linux]
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vondruch >
can somebody check, that rubygems stub's shebangs are wrongly expanded? it seems to be related to exec_prefix and rev39320
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marcandre >
That's when I wish `source_location` worked on C files too...
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zzak >
marcandre: i think rdoc does something where it reports undocumented methods and their source line and location
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marcandre >
I must confess never using rdoc/ri. Let me see
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zzak >
in the coverage report, ie: rdoc -C vm_thread.c
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marcandre >
can you figure out where these methods come from?
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marcandre >
Exception#respond_to?, respond_to_missing? and method_missing
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marcandre >
Looks like the doc for ObjectSpace::WeakMap also needs to be reviewed. Good thing you didn't have too many plans for today! ;-)
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zzak >
i worked on WeakMap
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marcandre >
"but those objects can get be garbage collected"... mmm ;-)
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_ko1 >
the reason why I misses to add to NEWS is,
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_ko1 >
i had planed to add to NEWS after the feature fixed.
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_ko1 >
but forgotten
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zzak >
i will have to dig around for the Exception methods
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marcandre >
_ko1: You want to commit, or I do?
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_ko1 >
marcandre: please do, with additonal English comments
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_ko1 >
i'm sleepy to think correct English..
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zzak >
idk where they are defined on Exception class, but defind on Object in vm_method.c
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zzak >
around line 1560
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marcandre >
Ok, but that's Kernel#respond_to?
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marcandre >
But it looks like it is specialized by Exception. It's listed in public_instance_method(false) (note the false flag), and also Exception.instance_method(:respond_to?).inspect doesn't say #<UnboundMethod: Exception(Kernel)#respond_to?>
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zzak >
i'd hate to say it, but maybe pry would help in this situation
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zzak >
try the pry-doc gem
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zzak >
for show-doc Some#method
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zzak >
or show-method Some::method
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zzak >
it says eval.c
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zzak >
hmm, but thats obj
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marcandre >
_ko1: Do you know the difference between IS#label and IS#base_label?
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marcandre >
The examples don't help in understanding the difference...
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_ko1 >
same as Backtrace::Location#label and base_label
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marcandre >
(...checking Backtrace...)
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_ko1 >
ah, i see. this example doesn't help ^^;
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zzak >
i couldnt come up with any good examples for those
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_ko1 >
label #=> "block (2 levels) in foo"
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_ko1 >
base_label #=> "foo"
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marcandre >
Great. zzak: more work for you, but I can help if you don't have the time!
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zzak >
i suck at coming up with arbitrary examples
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zzak >
marcandre: its ok, i can work on them tonight
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marcandre >
It's hard to understand a new feature without using it, also... The backtrace's doc needs work too.
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marcandre >
BTW, loc.label #=> a is incorrect... it should be loc.label #=> "a"
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zzak >
i really appreciate all the feedback
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zzak >
giving me plenty to work on :D
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marcandre >
I'll have some time tomorrow, so I can review the new doc then.
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_ko1 >
* Kernel#inspect does not call #to_s anymore
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_ko1 >
(it used to call redefined #to_s).
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_ko1 >
is significant incompatibility?
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drbrain >
I don't think so
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_ko1 >
should be written "=== Compatibility issues (excluding feature bug fixes)"
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drbrain >
yes, that sounds appropriate
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_ko1 >
no need to think English sentence!
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_ko1 >
marcandre: do you update ruby_2_0_0/NEWS directly?
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_ko1 >
maybe trunk/NEWS also updated
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marcandre >
Actually, trunk/NEWS should be cleared
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_ko1 >
will be copied
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marcandre >
Isn't trunk for next minor?
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_ko1 >
copied to doc/NEWS-2.0.0
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_ko1 >
marcandre: ah, i'm not sure.
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_ko1 >
i'm afraid that we may conflict changes
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_ko1 >
someone update trunk/NEWS
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_ko1 >
(just now, me!)
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_ko1 >
you update 200/NEWS
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marcandre >
Yes, I update 2_0_0/NEWS
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drbrain >
marcandre: should be see doc/NEWS-2.0.0
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drbrain >
marcandre: that's where NEWS-1.9.3, etc live
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marcandre >
Argh, didn't realize we copied those over.
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_ko1 >
at least, we need to make agreement
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_ko1 >
current protocol is trunk -> 200.
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_ko1 >
i think your update 200 directly is reasonable. (after release 200, copy it to trunk/doc/NEWS-200)
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_ko1 >
but before it, we need to make consensus
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marcandre >
I'd say let's edit 2_0_0/NEWS for now, when we release it can be copied in doc/NEWS-2.0.0
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marcandre >
right, so I think we agree :-)
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_ko1 >
only i and you :(
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_ko1 >
please ask mame-san.
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_ko1 >
on ruby-core.
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marcandre >
mame0: are you around?
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_ko1 >
5:41am JST :(
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zzak >
i think _ko1 has cloned himself, or he never sleeps
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zzak >
did you wake up early?
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zzak >
or not sleep yet
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zzak >
when they do roll call, you will have your head on the desk
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marcandre >
Uh uh. Looks like the new Module.used is... unused.
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marcandre >
I imagine it was meant to be called for both prepended and included cases...
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marcandre >
Nope, it was meant to be used with `using`.
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marcandre >
zzak: I added the doc for Module.prepended (hope you won't mind ;-) ), but just checking: "something prepended to something else". The "to" is correct, right?
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drbrain >
marcandre: it sounds right, can you link to it?
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drbrain >
I would probably use "onto"
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drbrain >
but "to" is fine
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marcandre >
So, not worth changing?
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drbrain >
not worth changing
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drbrain >
I would use "onto" because it gives me the picture of placing something on the top of something else
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