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<rking> Is ruby -rprofile the only/best profiling tool?
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<charliesome> rking: ruby prof
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<rking> charliesome: OK thanks man.
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<ddd> anyone have a list of 'rcov's for ruby? looking to evaluate several.
<ddd> i've seen simplecov, cover_me, and rcov. I was wondering if there were others I should be aware of
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<rking> ddd: Have you checked out heckle? IMO it's better than a plain coverage tool, in a lot of ways.
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<yorickpeterse> Morning
<injekt> moin
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<yorickpeterse> dem rails security issues
<yorickpeterse> if it wasn't for tenderlove we'd all be fucked
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<injekt> or if it wasn't for tenderlove someone else would fix it
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<yorickpeterse> don't be so silly
<injekt> lol, well it was a one line remove fix
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<injekt> "more than 200,000 websites affected" nice
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<TvL2386> Hi guys, I'm running ruby-p327 with the optimized CFLAGS ("-march=native -O2") and the Falcon patch (http://alisnic.net/blog/making-your-ruby-fly/). I've now upgraded to ruby-p362 with the same CFLAGS and noticed a 100% performance drop (rake routes went from 4.0 sec to 8.0 sec)
<injekt> TvL2386: did you apply the falcon patch?
<TvL2386> injekt, That was my second question: is there a patch for 362? Because I couldn't find it
<injekt> TvL2386: I dont know I dont patch it, it looks like there probably isn't
<injekt> TvL2386: the existing patch might work I guess?
<TvL2386> injekt, I'm a bit hesitant to apply the patch if it is not stated that it should work....
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<injekt> TvL2386: it would be pretty easy to test
<TvL2386> injekt, I'll try it on my dev anyway
<TvL2386> injekt, agreed!
<TvL2386> bbl! :)
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<TvL2386> injekt, the falcon patch fails...
<injekt> :D
<injekt> then I guess you have 2 options
<injekt> no patch, or use the older version of ruby
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<yorickpeterse> bundle update twitter # updating rack to version blabla
<yorickpeterse> wat
<TvL2386> yup yup... I think I'll stay with 327 because my rails app is noticeably faster with the older version
<injekt> yorickpeterse: yay bundler
<yorickpeterse> Also fuck whatever author of the "twitter" gem decided to yank a large number of versions
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<rindolf> Hi all.
<judofyr> hi rindolf
<rindolf> judofyr: hi.
<injekt> hai
<rindolf> What's up y'all?
<judofyr> working with a Perl project \o/
<rindolf> judofyr: nice, which one?
<judofyr> rindolf: work. closed-source ;)
<rindolf> judofyr: ah.
<rindolf> judofyr: closed source as in something in-house, or closed source as in something you sell?
<rindolf> Well, sell under a proprietary, non-FOSS, licence.
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<judofyr> rindolf: consultancy stuff
<rindolf> judofyr: OK.
<injekt> yay rdoc formatting that doesn't hurt my face http://injekt.github.com/rdoc/1.9.3/
<rindolf> judofyr: but I mean how will this software be deployed? See http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/FiveWorlds.html .
<judofyr> rindolf: web
<rindolf> judofyr: ah, OK.
<rindolf> judofyr: well, according to the GPL it's in-house software, but according to the AGPL it *may be* proprietary software.
<rindolf> Silly GNU/FSF people.
<judofyr> hehe
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<rindolf> There are enough problems with using GPLed code in embedded software.
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<rindolf> Though in the case of Sleepycat which adopted a GPL-like licence for BDB, it was a feature.
<rindolf> I was told Sleepycat's tech support went downhill since they were acquired by Oracle.
<rindolf> I remember them helping me with dbxml even though I was not a paying customer.
<injekt> :/
<rindolf> Now there's Google LevelDB which is BSD-style.
<rindolf> But C++y.
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<andrewvos> whitequark: Heh I'm just trying to troll twitter. I don't really think that Rails invented Ruby.
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<Muz> But it sure made the Ruby community the mess it is these days. :(
<Muz> PHP Syndrome. :(
<Muz> Or generally, being a victim of its own success.
<judofyr> well, I probably wouldn't be here if it wasn't for Rails ;)
<injekt> rails isn't the reason the ruby community is a mess
<andrewvos> judofyr: Me neither!
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<whitequark> 90% of anything is crap :)
<Muz> injekt: not independently, but it sure contributed to the extent of it.
<whitequark> relax
<judofyr> take it eeeeeaaaasy
<whitequark> define %i.Integer @"Integer:+;3"(%i.Integer, { %i.Integer }, %i.NilClass) {
<whitequark> errr
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<whitequark> wrong window
<judofyr> whitequark: that's a way to open-source a project :)
<judofyr> also*
<whitequark> judofyr: hahaha
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<judofyr> I guess now is a good time to work on my new web framework :9
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<injekt> :)
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<andrewvos> judofyr: Not that I've used Rails, but it surely made Ruby popular enough for me to find it.
<judofyr> btw, I'm considering starting a "daily contributions"-bloggy thing
<judofyr> where I try to have one commit/contributions per day
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<zenspider> EVERYTHING but EVERYTHING has broke today. you'd think I was running an unpatched rails app on my server.
<zenspider> huh... now I can ping my DNS server but I'm getting 50% packet loss on it... sad, but that's an improvement
<judofyr> ouch :/
<whitequark> judofyr: (daily contribs) not sure what's the point
<whitequark> judofyr: what would you write about, except the contributions themselves?
<zenspider> hrm... that seems better now... but I STILL can't resolve google.com
<zenspider> what. the. fuck.
<judofyr> use bing.com then
<rue|w> That sounds like a feature
<zenspider> I must have had something corrupt somewhere. but fuck if I can figure out what broke where
<judofyr> whitequark: just link to the commit and write some small notes. it's just for forcing myself to do more open-source/publicly ;)
<rue|w> I had weirdness with Safari not resolving yesterday
<zenspider> ARGH
<zenspider> ok... host google.com times out
<zenspider> host google.com 68.87.69.146 works fine
<zenspider> /etc/resolv.conf lists that as my primary nameserver
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<zenspider> what the fuck am I forgetting?
<whitequark> judofyr: it reminds me of a common advice to novice programmers. "contribute to open source". and then you force yourself to find some bogus reason to write some code no one actually needs.
<andrewvos> judofyr: Sounds cool!
<whitequark> zenspider: linux?
<andrewvos> judofyr: I would love to do a contribution every day.
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<zenspider> and of course this shit happens on the day I have one of my best workouts ever... I've STILL got no brain whatsoever
<zenspider> whitequark: osx server
<rue|w> andrewvos: You already contribute by being awesome
<whitequark> zenspider: if yes, there's also glibc's NSS. /etc/nsswitch.com
<whitequark> oh no idea then
<judofyr> whitequark: well, who uses stuff I write anyway? :)
<judofyr> whitequark: might as well publish it early, instead of keeping it in ~/programming/random
<andrewvos> rue|w: Dawww
<andrewvos> Thanks
<whitequark> judofyr: I've used temple
* yorickpeterse wrote a DTD
<zenspider> mine is ~/Work/misc
<zenspider> :)
<rue|w> zenspider: Have you tried rebooting it?
<yorickpeterse> I expected it to be far worse
<whitequark> judofyr: and quickgem...
<zenspider> rue|w: really? it isn't windows :P
<zenspider> (yes--when the network was totally fucked and all the processes were freakin out)
<whitequark> judofyr: and I've just found sexp_builder and chances are quite high that I'll use it instead of my crappy variant of it
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<whitequark> because that code was SO BAD I just deleted it whatsoever and just left some released gems to not break stuff.
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<judofyr> whitequark: interesting. let me know if you need to patch it; you can have commit access if you need it :)
<zenspider> your rule system is pretty
<whitequark> judofyr: I'll have to look how to integrate it with Furnace
<zenspider> I like the use of %
<whitequark> judofyr: I suspect there might be differences wrt/ immutability of nodes
<judofyr> zenspider: it's SexpPath actually
<zenspider> well... I like it just the same
<judofyr> just for the credit's sake :)
<whitequark> judofyr: did you fork sexp_path, or rather reimplemented its API?
<judofyr> whitequark: I depend on it
<whitequark> oh
<whitequark> I recall looking into sexp_path internals and not liking them. but maybe that was a quirk.
<judofyr> that may be
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<zenspider> sometimes I think I should just code on paper
<zenspider> today is one of those days
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<ghr> Anyone used ruport? Is there a way to paginate results?
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<zenspider> do you guys resolve mail.zenspider.com ? `host -v mail.zenspider.com 184.106.214.131`
<zenspider> hrm... I can on my laptop... but not on my server. wtf
<zenspider> what the fuck did I break?
<yorickpeterse> DNS?
<yorickpeterse> Might be cached on your laptop
<zenspider> just resolved it on a website tool
<zenspider> but I have no idea... it's wonky
<zenspider> I can't even look shit up if I specify the DNS server...
<injekt> resolves here
<judofyr> fine here too
<zenspider> fucking pf firewall...
<zenspider> sudo pfctl -d
<zenspider> then host mail.zenspider.com works fine
<zenspider> sudo pfctl -e
<zenspider> then resolving something else breaks
<zenspider> ARGH
<yorickpeterse> resolves here fine
<zenspider> at least I know now
<zenspider> not that I know how to fix it yet
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<rking> ddd: Did you see the answer 'heckle' to the question about coverage gems?
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<ddd> yeah, on the slab to be looked at
<ddd> thanks for the response
<rking> Np. It's pretty gnarly… I think you'll like it.
<zenspider> heckle schmeckle
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<ddd> just trying to eval a few others beyond the ones i named. hoping for something fairly decent.
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<ddd> with college starting and contract work, haven't had the time to go through my todos. that got appended ;)
<ddd> rking: you on a mac by chance?
<ddd> i forget
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<judofyr> rking: I think there's a fork of heckle that's being maintained now
<rking> judofyr: Oh? I didn't know it was unmaintained. It's worked for me when I tried it.
<rking> ddd: I burn all Apple products with the fire of my OSS purity.
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<judofyr> rking: oh. I just remember hearing about Heckle a looong time ago and never hearing about it again :)
<ddd> damn, give em to me, don't burn em!
<whitequark> >2.0.0.b1 October 3, 2012
<whitequark> heckle
<whitequark> looks like maintained for me.
<ddd> actually, i'm suprised how happy i've been on this mbp since switching off linux. i did really think i would hate it as a commercial os.
<ddd> that.. surprised me in more ways than one.
<ddd> anyways, i was going to recommend Dash if you were. excellent all-in-one doc searching tool. sort of like gnome's doc-helper? i think its called.
<ddd> dhelp? the non-html help system. gah ignore me. i'm tired up all night and the leg's killin me so i'm just ramblin bullshit.
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<rking> ddd: Hrm. I'll check that out (and burn it with OSS purityfire)
<ddd> hehe
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<judofyr> andrewvos: I made a (restricted) reddit for Daily contributions: http://www.reddit.com/r/DailyContributions/ maybe I'll start posting there :)
<andrewvos> judofyr: Cool!
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<manveru> judofyr: what's that?
<manveru> contributions to daily?
<manveru> a contribution a day keeps the bugs at bay?
<judofyr> manveru: my plan of doing at least one commit/contributions per day :)
<judofyr> manveru: so the subreddit is a lazy man's blog ;)
<manveru> ah, like calendar about nothing?
<judofyr> yeah
<manveru> i think github has that built in now
<judofyr> the point is to be more public about it
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<judofyr> and actually write a few lines about the commit/contribution
<manveru> hm
<judofyr> and also allow other stuff than commits
<manveru> ok, i usually have trouble coming up with commit messages already...
<judofyr> I just want a routine. the github profile page just happens by itself.
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<manveru> aye
<manveru> i do the same for business ideas
<manveru> or project ideas
<manveru> not that i have anything useful yet...
<judofyr> one of my goals for 2013 is to publish more stuff on GitHub
<judofyr> instead of keeping it in ~/programming/random
<judofyr> reddit was a cheap way to avoid setting up a blog
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<yorickpeterse> My last article was on 2011-11-26
<zenspider> I've got iwritecode.com for exactly that... and ... nothing. :P
<judofyr> I also started on http://c.judofyr.net/ for random stuff
<judofyr> but yeah, it's easier with something you do daily
<zenspider> I've got forward dated posts set up on my blog software... I just haven't gathered up all my random stuff and marked it up
<zenspider> I should do a week or two at a time and then let cron take care of publishing
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<yorickpeterse> Most of the stuff I think about writing is just rants
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<yorickpeterse> or far too technical
<apeiros_> I've got twitter to rant
<yorickpeterse> then again the latter is better than nothing
<apeiros_> but 140char limit is frustrating with rants :(
<yorickpeterse> apeiros_: it actually works quite well, take a look at dhh
<apeiros_> not following him :)
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<yorickpeterse> There are a few things related to my previous job that I'd like to publish but they'd probably get me in trouble
<yorickpeterse> I also think they're a bit too personal
<apeiros_> dailywtf material?
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<yorickpeterse> No, it's not specifically related to code
<yorickpeterse> somewhere between that, Programmers Being Dicks and regular rants
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<ggreer> same goes for users of php :P
<andrewvos> ggreer: Oi! Get ouutta here
<ggreer> heh
<andrewvos> :)
<ggreer> I wish I could forget php. unfortunately those traumatic memories will stay with me for a long time
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<imperator> andrewvos, i don't get it
<andrewvos> imperator: Rails has that new vulnerability
<andrewvos> imperator: Sinatra does not
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<yorickpeterse> sinatra is too mainstream
<imperator> didn't know about the rails vulnerability
<chris2> got root? :P
<andrewvos> imperator: How much rent do you pay, under that rock?
<imperator> i've given up rails ;)
<chris2> if you have/host a rails app, you really should subscribe the security announcement list
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<apeiros_> great, wasting half an hour or more to figure out that haml docs are for a not-yet-released version…
<yorickpeterse> Fuck HAML
<andrewvos> <3 HAML
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<yorickpeterse> Yeah I'd prefer regular HTML over anything
<judofyr> it's called Haml!
<judofyr> also, Slim is better ;) http://slim-lang.com/
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<yorickpeterse> moar abstractions
<yorickpeterse> MOAR!!!
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<andrewvos> :)
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<unsymbol> judofyr: "build status: failing" ;_:
<judofyr> unsymbol: heh. it's in pretty active development so minad will fix it :)
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<lempface> Anyone launching a ruby script from .NET and successfully hiding the console? I've done this with other applications but ruby doesn't seem to want to hide, some reason it doesn't do this in the normal fashion?
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<judofyr> unsymbol: there. pull request sent: https://github.com/slim-template/slim/pull/332
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<unsymbol> judofyr: it does look pretty nice. i was only half kidding about the travis status thing. i should only do full kidding henceforth ;)
<judofyr> unsymbol: it was just a test mistake. so the implementation was right ;)
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<judofyr> unsymbol: it's like a cleaner Haml (both the syntax and the implementation). it's faster too :)
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<injekt> heh
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<injekt> I think I prefer haml
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<andrewvos> inkjet++
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<apeiros_> so we have aperios, inkjet, judofry, andrevows - whom else?
<unsymbol> apeiros_: and me.
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<injekt> lol andrevows
<injekt> and mine still looks the worst :(
<apeiros_> yours has at least a practical use
<injekt> I'm not so sure you can use practical for inkjet printers
<apeiros_> you should see a screenshot of how judofry highlights :)
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<yorickpeterse> jesus
<yorickpeterse> You really like your own name do you?
<judofyr> no, judofyr
<judofyr> fry*
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<judofyr> I mis-misspelled my name :(
<yorickpeterse> tehee
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<judofyr> yorickpeterse: it's just nice to be able to scroll up and easily see when people shout at me
<apeiros_> judofry: of course, it's contagious!
<injekt> haha
<injekt> inkjet is just yellow for me :S
<yorickpeterse> judofyr: works for me just fine: http://is.gd/FwTZQF
<injekt> needs more massive
<judofyr> massive!
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<GarethAdams> injekt: I always read your name wrongly
<injekt> GarethAdams: me too
<GarethAdams> it was only on that github ticket the other day that I actually noticed
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<yorickpeterse> I lol'd at that
<andrewvos> apeiros_: I vows NOTHING
<apeiros_> yes, andrevowsnothing
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<injekt> GarethAdams: what ticket?
<GarethAdams> YYYY-MM dates
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<injekt> ah chronic
<GarethAdams> thassit
<injekt> the one with the badd commit hash
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<yorickpeterse> Nokogiri nerds: is it possible to create a nested structure using the SAX parser similar to how Ripper does it (return values are added to the parent nodes)?
<manveru> yeah
<yorickpeterse> It seems the SAX parser system completely ignores return values which means I have to take care of stacks myself
<yorickpeterse> (which is a pita)
<manveru> yes
<yorickpeterse> sweet, how? :)
<manveru> it's not so hard, really
<manveru> making your own stack, i mean
<yorickpeterse> It's not, but I'd rather be lazy
<manveru> lemme see if i have something i did
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<manveru> weird
<manveru> must be somewhere in one of my repo histories
<manveru> is there an ack for that?
<yorickpeterse> git log --grep
<yorickpeterse> it can also do a search on file contents but it takes a while
<manveru> what is your goal btw?
<injekt> git grep .. $(git rev-list --all)
<manveru> yeah, tig -S can do that
<manveru> https://github.com/pauldix/sax-machine might be fun too, kinda like deserializing xml into objects
<yorickpeterse> manveru: building an AST similar to the one of Nokogiri::XML() but without all the selector crap since I don't need it
<yorickpeterse> so just the node name, attributes and children
<injekt> be careful when loading them serialized objects
<injekt> we know how that can bite
<manveru> we do?
<injekt> amirite rails
<manveru> who cares about rails :P
<injekt> I have to unfortunately
<manveru> wish there was a way to hide forks from github search
<manveru> yorickpeterse: anw, then sax-machine looks about right for you
<manveru> at least it's more fun than building your own ast
<manveru> ah, i think i used it once to convert xml to json
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<yorickpeterse> hrmpf, seems I need the DOM method anyway if I also want to validate the XML
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<manveru> ah, found it
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<yorickpeterse> hmm
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<yorickpeterse> Hrmpf, looks like you need separate classes in sax machine for elements with different attributes
<manveru> yes
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<yorickpeterse> Yeah screw that
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<yorickpeterse> there we go
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<stevechiagozie> any RSpec users I can run a question by?
<andrewvos> Always
<stevechiagozie> #rspec is unresponsive
<stevechiagozie> in ~/.rspec i have "--order random" but I'd like to override that with "--order default". I can do that easily in the Rakefile
<stevechiagozie> but how can I override that in the RSpec.configure block?
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<andrewvos> Hmm not sure
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<glebm> A question
<glebm> What should this return YAML::parse(YAML::dump("1."))
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<glebm> This, according to yaml spec, should return YAML::parse("--- 1.") #=> 1.0 (float)
<glebm> So, is there a way to dump "1." it so YAML knows it's a string? I am not familiar with YAML spec, so I don't even know if it's possible
<eam> glebm: YAML::dump("1.") should return "--- \"1.\"\n"
<eam> which is a string type in yaml
<glebm> eam: Aha, Aaron just clarified it too :) Thanks!
<yorickpeterse> awww yiss, linter is capable of building definitions for the OpenStruct class
<yorickpeterse> Next up: refactoring my refactor, retrieving method return values and then hopefully I can process code such as `some_method[:key] = value`
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<injekt> refactor the refactoring refactorer
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<injekt> RefactorFactory
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<canton7> ReFactory ;)
<imperator> OlFactory
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<yorickpeterse> Le Factory
<andrewvos> FactoryPattern?
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<yorickpeterse> $ gut add kub
<yorickpeterse> jesus christ
<injekt> gut
<injekt> gut revert --meal
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<yorickpeterse> I once dit a `git merge FOO -s ours`
<yorickpeterse> never again
<yorickpeterse> * did
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<yorickpeterse> apparently `-s ours` really means "lol your code is gone now"
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<andrewvos> hehe
<andrewvos> add kub?
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<yorickpeterse> it was supposed to be `git add lib`
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<andrewvos> Wow
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<andrewvos> You fail at life
<injekt> yorickpeterse: go home you are drunk
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<S1kx> how would I ideally go about processing a huge .txt and keeping some state of what is processed and what is not... import to a session-specific sqlite database in the beginning and work with that?
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<S1kx> so that i can stop and resume at any points
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<yorickpeterse> injekt: I am home
<andrewvos> go drunk you are home!
<injekt> ^
<injekt> go to work you are drunk
<andrewvos> S1kx: Store the line number in sql?
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<S1kx> well i'm processing asynchronously so there might be things out of order
<andrewvos> "processing a huge .txt" ... "sqlite"
<S1kx> yes?
<andrewvos> well
<andrewvos> sqlite is kind of lite
<yorickpeterse> and its sql
<yorickpeterse> BABOOM
<andrewvos> yorickpeterse: hiyoooo
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<andrewvos> Wait you're async processing a single file?
<andrewvos> Oh, going for dinner peace
<S1kx> it's a list of URLs which gets distributed to multiple workers, right
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<yorickpeterse> What have you tried so far? Also, if you do it async you'll probably run into race conditions
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<S1kx> it's a single process reading it, but the workers work concurrently so an URL further down the lsit may be processed earlier than one before
<yorickpeterse> ah
<S1kx> so far I have done the line-number-method every X seconds and with trap('INT'), but that's pretty inaccurate
<yorickpeterse> What if you take N lines every time, process them, then repeat?
<yorickpeterse> without any wait time in between
<yorickpeterse> or build a small broker that hands out lines to process to workers
<andrewvos> use node
<yorickpeterse> andrewvos: good grief
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<andrewvos> yorickpeterse: ?
<S1kx> well my question is rather how to remove the lines from the .txt without rewriting it entirely, or storing the state somehow else, just for the case of quitting and wanting to resume
<yorickpeterse> andrewvos: why the fuck would you use Node for processing files?
<injekt> use c
<injekt> use clojure
<andrewvos> yorickpeterse: I was joking
<yorickpeterse> exactly
<yorickpeterse> S1kx: File.readlines is your friend here
<injekt> ugh File.readlines for reading partial?
<yorickpeterse> or was that File.readline, either way, there's one that doesn't load the entire file into mem at once
<injekt> no no
<injekt> File.each_line
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<S1kx> i know how to read a file :(
<injekt> yorickpeterse: maybe you mean .lines which is an alias for each_line
<yorickpeterse> File.open('bigfile.txt', 'r') { |handle| handle.each_line { |line| workers.sample.work(line) } } # something like that
<andrewvos> I think the only real approach is to do what yorickpeterse said. Read 1000 or so lines in, then store the line number, then process 1000 lines async.
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<S1kx> hm
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<yorickpeterse> where `workers` is an array of worker objects
<S1kx> well that's pretty much what i'm doing but was thinking there would be a better approach :(
<darix> S1kx: how abot just having one process that feeds 1 url to each worker
<darix> then you only have one process reading from that file
<darix> you could use something like resque/sidekiq for handling the worker
<darix> or build them yourself with something like zeromq
<S1kx> there is no race conditions... no problems reading the file... it's about persisting the resume state
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<apeiros_> File.enum_for(:readlines, 'bigfile').each_slice(10) { |lines| … }
<darix> S1kx: what do you mean? remembering where you were?
<yorickpeterse> You'd have to store the processed line numbers and skip those. Not sure if #each_line gives you an index, if not you can easily count it yourself
<apeiros_> .with_index gives you an index
<darix> S1kx: that also gets easier if you have just one poress on the file
<S1kx> darix: pretty much, but i want to save when the processing on a URL is complete, not when its read
<S1kx> which is why i'm thinking about SQL
<yorickpeterse> you can also read all the lines, store them in the SQL database and *then* process them
<yorickpeterse> Then you can store all kinds of crazy meta data
<darix> uhm... if you used rescue/zmq/sidekiq you get notified when the job is done?
<darix> and could mark the line as done.
<S1kx> yorickpeterse: that was the idea
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<S1kx> and i suppose that's what i'm going with :P
<S1kx> + store the file timestamp in there aswell to make sure to diff when it has changed
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<islander> What exactly does inspect do? As I understand it, it just converts the object to a string. Am I right?
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<apeiros_> it lets you inspect an object
<apeiros_> the purpose is debugging/(lightweight )introspection
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<apeiros_> and yes, inspect should return a string
<islander> Oh okay, thank you!