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<daturkel>
having some trouble with FileUtils.cp, I'm copying a file from a PWD to PWD/build, and if PWD/build doesn't exist, i create it. it works fine in that case, but if PWD/build does exist, the copy operation fails
<daturkel>
the error I get says "no such file or directory" and then the name of the destination file
<daturkel>
which doesn't seem like a problem—it's not supposed to exist yet, that's why i'm copying to it
<bnagy>
daturkel: probably need more actual info / real errors
<daturkel>
sure
<bnagy>
because no, there is no obvious reason cp should do that
<daturkel>
so the idea is that I scan the working directory for html files
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<daturkel>
then, if there is a build directory, i copy them into it
<daturkel>
or rather
<daturkel>
i empty the build directory of html files, THEN i copy into it
<daturkel>
and if there is no build directory, i make it and then copy into it
<daturkel>
so i can delete the build directory
<daturkel>
run my script
<daturkel>
and it succeeds
<daturkel>
then i run it again, without deleting the new build directory or files inside
<daturkel>
and it successfully empties the build folder, but fails to re-copy the files in
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<daturkel>
and my error: /Users/danturkel/.rvm/rubies/ruby-2.0.0-p247/lib/ruby/2.0.0/fileutils.rb:1551:in `stat': No such file or directory - /Users/danturkel/Documents/Code/Ruby/dinner/lib/build/index.html (Errno::ENOENT) from /Users/danturkel/.rvm/rubies/ruby-2.0.0-p247/lib/ruby/2.0.0/fileutils.rb:1551:in `block in fu_each_src_dest' from /Users/danturkel/.rvm/rubies/ruby-2.0.0-p247/lib/ruby/2.0.0/fileutils.rb:1565:in `fu_each_src_dest0'
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<noober3>
was wondering how to write this correctly not sure how: <% if zombie.tweets.count > 1 %>
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<noober3>
the conditional causes an the problem and not sure how to deal with it
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<centrx>
noober3, Causes what problem? Looks fine as is
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<noober3>
oh actually i think i had a problem in the code right before, thanks
<centrx>
noober3, Also, since I've seen you in here frequently, I will mention that #ruby is another Ruby channel which is often more active than this one, so if no one is here at a time, visit #ruby too
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<centrx>
noober3, And since it looks like you are using Rails, also #rubyonrails
<noober3>
ok thanks for the info
<noober3>
new to ruby/rails so this is good to know
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<centrx>
noober3, Welcome to the party!
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<noober3>
thanks
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<ljarvis>
shift does the same, indents then drops out of insert mode
<maloik>
as opposed to having to select and press once
<yorickpeterse>
ljarvis: eh? you can't use shift + <> in insert mode
<ljarvis>
i want to indent/dedent(?) blocks of code without using N basically
<yorickpeterse>
it's visual only, at least for me
<ljarvis>
sorry i meant drops out of visual mode
<ljarvis>
i want it to keep the block highlighted
<ljarvis>
so i can keep indenting (or not)
<yorickpeterse>
huh? It stays in visual for me
<ljarvis>
does it keep the block selected?
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<yorickpeterse>
no
<ljarvis>
that's what i want
<yorickpeterse>
hmmm
<ljarvis>
also wat, why does >> indent normal 2 spaces, yet %>> indents the entire file with 4 spaces
<ljarvis>
vim y u so silleh
<maloik>
I just use 3>> cause I've started to know how much to indent
<maloik>
dont often miscount
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<ljarvis>
well lard de dar
<ljarvis>
mr non-miscounter
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<ljarvis>
i do not possess these gifts
<maloik>
well you get used to it dont you ?
<maloik>
yea you do
<maloik>
you just havent tried yet
<ljarvis>
you mean like a young superman, i am yet to fly
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<maloik>
uhm, sure..
<maloik>
right I'm back to cursing at css and icon fonts
<yorickpeterse>
"At the moment we are looking for speakers who cat tell about practical use of Rubinius. So we’ve found you on github.com/rubinius." Oh dayum
<yorickpeterse>
that's the second time that shit got me somewhere
<yorickpeterse>
The first time was for Rails Girls
<yorickpeterse>
"You contribute to Rbx so we invited you" - had 2 commits in at that time
<yorickpeterse>
I should get a turtleneck
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<yorickpeterse>
is that a Javascript programmer in the wild?
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<hackeron>
hey, question about eventmachine - is there anyway to print a warning if the reactor is being blocked by anything? - how would one know if a library is blocking the reactor?
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<matti>
;]
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<gnufied>
hackeron: there is no way
<matti>
Yorick ;)
<gnufied>
hackeron: at least no builtin way. if you must have, you need to watch for library calls that will result in blocking call. in real world there are only two big culprits of that - database request and external web service call
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<yorickpeterse>
matti: WHAT
<yorickpeterse>
oh
<ijoe>
hi all
<ijoe>
hi yorickpeterse
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<yorickpeterse>
(¯ε¯ )
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<yorickpeterse>
Writing multi-lingual date parsers is actually pretty interesting
<yorickpeterse>
Apparently we even have some code dealing with Cebuano
<yorickpeterse>
TIL
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<apeiros>
:)
<yorickpeterse>
Vim is so bad at rendering Japanese though
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<gnufied>
no wonder Ruby was written in Emacs
<gnufied>
you are not too late to swithc
<gnufied>
switch*
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<[spoiler]>
yorickpeterse: TIL Cebuano is a... something somewhere. :P
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<maloik>
I hear about things being things in a lot of places most of the time
<maloik>
baffling isn't it
<maloik>
:-)
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<yorickpeterse>
gnufied: are you telling me to worship Satan?
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<benlovell>
yorickpeterse: i'm accepted for rubyc so I guess I'll see you there, hail satan.
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<yorickpeterse>
nice
<yorickpeterse>
uo'
<yorickpeterse>
fuck
<yorickpeterse>
* You're going to do a jruby talk?
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<cored>
yorickpeterse: weren't you worshiping Satan already?
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<yorickpeterse>
do I look like some emo to you?
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<yorickpeterse>
"NotImplementedError: the Digest::SHA256() function is unimplemented on this machine"
<yorickpeterse>
jruby wat
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<yorickpeterse>
things get interesting when you start 100 threads in Rubby
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<yorickpeterse>
on a 32 core machine
<yorickpeterse>
<3 AWS
<imperator>
yorickpeterse, ran into that with an older version of openssl i think
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<yorickpeterse>
hm
<yorickpeterse>
at least it's comforting to see it's not just Rbx shitting itself at this size
<yorickpeterse>
I need more of these c3.8xlarge instances
<yorickpeterse>
MOAR
<yorickpeterse>
maybe then Ruby will scale
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<gnufied>
that is threads right?
<yorickpeterse>
Yes
<gnufied>
duh, they look like processes?
<yorickpeterse>
yeah normally I show them in a different color but I didn't really configure htop on this instance
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<imperator>
yorickpeterse, obviously you need to convert this code to erlang
<yorickpeterse>
actually
<yorickpeterse>
well no
<yorickpeterse>
this code already consists of Ruby, Python, Java, Perl and C
<imperator>
what's one more language?
<imperator>
it's wafer thin
<yorickpeterse>
wat
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<pipework>
imperator: Clearly they need some clojure.
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<hackeron>
gnufied: hmm, so there's no way to at least add a hook that will check how long since the last event loop and if this value gets over say 500ms, then at least that would give an indication that something is blocking
<someperson>
there an easy way to flatten a hash of arrays, where some arrays might also contain a hash
<someperson>
i want to flatten the whole darn thing all at once, getting only the values, none of the keys
<gnufied>
hackeron: there is a method called on_next_tick which you can use to track that
<gnufied>
sorry, it is just called next_tick
<gnufied>
using it perhaps you can track how fast your loops are turning
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<andy4thehuynh>
hello?
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<andy4thehuynh>
Does anyone have a good guide to User authentication w/ Sinatra? Possibly with DataMapper as the db? I tried: http://skli.se/2013/03/08/sinatra-warden-auth/ but got no results
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<ruby-idiot>
Hey all
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<andy4thehuynh>
sup ruby-idiot
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<yorickpeterse>
andy4thehuynh: asking the same question 3 times when nobody answers won't help
<yorickpeterse>
it means either nobody is here or nobody really knows an answer
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<yorickpeterse>
Also, asking "I tried X but it didn't work" isn't going to help, there's no question in there
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<andy4thehuynh>
just installed an irc client. didn't know if it went through
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<andy4thehuynh>
thanks anyways yorickpeterse
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<yorickpeterse>
Asking a more specific question will probably help
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<andy4thehuynh>
duly noted. gratzi yorickpeterse
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<andy4thehuynh>
So there's Warden, Authlogic, authenticating w/ Twitter...
<andy4thehuynh>
Is one service more secure than the other?
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<yorickpeterse>
No, they serve different needs
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<yorickpeterse>
warden is a low level authentication framework with other things (e.g. Devise) being built on top of it
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<yorickpeterse>
Most of these will probably use bcrypt or similar so in terms of password hashing they are similar
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<ljarvis>
warden is awesome
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<andy4thehuynh>
I have a dictionary app where Users sign up, define words and can see the words they looked up when they're signed in
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<andy4thehuynh>
Would using twitter authentication suffice? Or should I look to an alternative?
<andy4thehuynh>
thanks for the feedback ya'll
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<ljarvis>
andy4thehuynh: that is a decision only you can make
<ljarvis>
ask yourself the same question
<andy4thehuynh>
cool. didn't realize choosing auth was that simple. twitter seems like fun. thanks ljarvis
<ljarvis>
do you want users to have alternative methods of signing up? or just twitter?
<ljarvis>
andy4thehuynh: well, you're building it
<ljarvis>
so you to make all those decisions
<ljarvis>
get ^
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<andy4thehuynh>
ooo didn't hit me they wouldn't have an alternative other than twitter
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<andy4thehuynh>
appreciate the input ljarvis. i got something to think about
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<dostoyevsky>
Is the convention about "!" methods in ruby: We only use ! at the end of a method if there is an alternative method that has no ! its name?
<dostoyevsky>
+ in
<andy4thehuynh>
bang methods (ex: Hash#merge!) throws errors if something goes wrong
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<jhass>
andy4thehuynh: dostoyevsky that's the rails convention. The ruby core convention is that they're the self modifying variant of the non-bang version. Ruby core also follows the "only add a bang method if a non-bang variant exists" principle
<jhass>
the smallest common denominator is that the bang indicates a certain dangerousnes
<dostoyevsky>
is rails still popular these days? :)
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<jhass>
i. e. s = "foo\n"; s.chomp #=> "foo"; s #=> "foo\n"; s.chomp! #=> "foo"; s #=> "foo"; s.chomp! #=> nil
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<dostoyevsky>
a = [:a, :b, :c]; a.push(:d); a.slice!(2, 3); a.pop # it's slice! because there is also slice which does not modify a... for push/pop there is no such alternative...
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<tbuehlmann>
there's #first and #last :)
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<ljarvis>
please dont use bang methods for 'stuff that might raise an error'
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<apeiros>
yeah, use bang methods for everything instead!
<apeiros>
constantly live in the danger zone! :D
<rondale_sc>
apeiros: I'm imagining you saying that like in the show Archer
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<havenwood>
Lana. Lana. Lana! Lanaaaaa!
<apeiros>
haha
<rondale_sc>
lol
<apeiros>
so the use of bang methods is somehow connected to your mother?
<rondale_sc>
that's an overheard (...over read? is that a thing)
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<ruby-lang983>
I'm getting some OpenSSL "cert already in hash table" errors when trying to send mail out using background workers--can anyone help me out?
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<centrx>
ruby-lang983, Any further information about these "background workers" you can provide?
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<centrx>
And...it's gone
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<rzein>
Does anyone know anything about OpenSSL "cert already in hash table" errors?
<centrx>
<centrx> ruby-lang983, Any further information about these "background workers" you can provide?
<centrx>
rzein, Also try #ruby that channel is usually more active
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<RitterJack>
Hi
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<centrx>
Ahoy
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<RitterJack>
I am a newbie ruby dev. I need advice !
<centrx>
Marvellous!
<centrx>
Welcome to Ruby
<RitterJack>
iI mean, should i try RoR now ? Or Ruby first ?
<darix>
RitterJack: you will have to learn ruby while you get in touch with RoR anyway
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<RitterJack>
Yep but only ruby first ?
<centrx>
RitterJack, It might depend on your learning style, but you should probably start learning the basics of Ruby, and then at some point along the way decide to start with Rails
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<RitterJack>
Ok, i'll do it
<RitterJack>
any ideas for my first ruby "app" to learn ?
<centrx>
RitterJack, You might enjoy Ruby Koans or RubyMonk (both free online)
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<RitterJack>
already done !
<RitterJack>
now i should do a real app
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<jhass>
RitterJack: thing about something you do regularly and that you could (partly) automate
<RitterJack>
like a bash script ?
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<jhass>
except in ruby!
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<RitterJack>
ok !
<RitterJack>
i'll try it
<RitterJack>
can we use unix cmd with ruby ? like cd, mkdir ..?
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<jhass>
yes, look at the File, Dir and FileUtils classes
<jhass>
feel free to ask for suggestions here once you're done
<jhass>
(on how to make it nicer etc.)
<RitterJack>
ok :)
<RitterJack>
thx a lot
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<RitterJack>
i just need an idea
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<fraterlaetus>
noob q:
<RitterJack>
-_-
<fraterlaetus>
how can I create use split to create a multi-dimensional array?
<jhass>
fraterlaetus: provide input and expected output
<centrx>
rzein, You already asked that question and then disappeared without a word.
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<andy4thehuynh>
Thanks jhass for the explanation for self-modifying methods. I learned something new today
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<rrzein_>
centrx, sorry about that... do you know who was trying to help? I must have not seen the message...
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<centrx>
rrzein_, What they said basically was a) you need to ask a clearer question and b) Try #ruby which has more activity than this channel
<centrx>
rrzein_, The question as you asked it in #rubyonrails sounds like a Heroku issue.
<centrx>
rrzein_, Try #heroku
<zenspider>
rawr
<rrzein_>
centrx, ah i see. okay thanks
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<basiliothecat>
Hi everybody! would be thankfull for tips with ri - having trouble to browse the docs compared to fetchig single pages, i went to folder where the ri files are and see a lot of promising names - e.g. syntax folder but don't know how to open the individual ri files. Any tips?
<zenspider>
basiliothecat: `ri String#split`
<zenspider>
ri String
<zenspider>
ri split
<zenspider>
etc
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<basiliothecat>
zenspider: yeah i got the basic syntax for querying. but i see files that doesn't seem to map to any classes or methods in the ri docs folder. And it's them that i'm wondering how to opern
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<zenspider>
basiliothecat: did you ASK about that? we're not psychic, we're ruby programmers
<zenspider>
I answer the question given
<basiliothecat>
zenspider: e.g. /usr/local/share/ri/xx/system/syntax/page-control-expressions_rdoc.ri
<basiliothecat>
zendpider: sorry, thought i'd made that clear
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