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<heyhey>
Hey I dont know if anyone in here is familiar with Sintra but I am trying to make a basic form with and conditional to respond to whatever the user input is heres what I have so far. If anyone can give me some insight that would be awesome!
<reijoslav>
true, i'm just wondering about rationale in inclusion of sse2 option for compilations targetted at e.g. i486
<reijoslav>
sse2 seems to exist in i786 and above (if i786 is a valid arch name)
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<centrx>
686 is the last
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<centrx>
reijoslav, Try during America/Europe daytime, also channel #ruby
<reijoslav>
so i've meant 7-th generation (pentium 4)
<reijoslav>
oook, sorry
<centrx>
reijoslav, Neither channel really has the Japanese developers
<centrx>
SSE2 started in 2001 apparenlty
<centrx>
So it is fairly old, reasonable to expect a processor would have it
<reijoslav>
yes, but if you want to target your compilation for i486, you expect to have i486-compatible instructions in it
<reijoslav>
and in recent ruby, when you compile for i486, you have SSE2 inside
<reijoslav>
and SIGILL when running ruby ;)
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<maloik>
happy friday <3
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<maloik>
"if I were to write a proposal about topic X, do you think it will get accepted? I don't want to put effort in if not"
<maloik>
uh.... okay
<pipework>
maloik: "Must not be worth talking about."
<maloik>
I think our answer was something along the lines of "everything has a chance to get accepted but it depends on the quality of the proposal"
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<vlad_starkov>
Question (cross-post): If I have method that raises exception "def not_found raise ActionController::RoutingError.new('Not Found') end", should I name it "not_found" or "not_found!"?
<badeball>
vlad_starkov: I don't like bang in method names if there doesn't exists a non-bang version
<vlad_starkov>
badeball: Thanks!
<badeball>
there are many methods with side effects that doesn't have bang, such as Array#pop and Array#shift
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<vlad_starkov>
badeball: yep
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<yorickpeterse>
morning
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<ljarvis>
moin
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<yorickpeterse>
Jesus, our data entry people really are not paying fucking attention
<yorickpeterse>
MOAR VALIDATIONS
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<mbrice>
does anyone know if there's a way to append a string to the http status line above the header? ie. modify "HTTP/1.1 200 OK" to "HTTP/1.1 200 OK foobar"
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<apeiros>
mbrice: I don't think that's valid
<yorickpeterse>
mbrice: then it's not valid HTTP
<chris2>
it is
<yorickpeterse>
Or at least is not a valid HTTP 200 OK
<chris2>
even 200 Not found is valid?
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<mbrice>
it's just a matter if it's possible to modify it in ruby or not.
<apeiros>
mbrice: and yes, of course it's possible
<mbrice>
i just want to append a version number at the end of the line.
<chris2>
mbrice: so, in rack, you can pass "200 Foobar" as status, but not all backends will use it as-is
<apeiros>
mbrice: how depends entirely on what you use, though
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<yorickpeterse>
mbrice: you generally add that kind of meta info as a separate header
<apeiros>
tcp_socket.write("HTTP/1.1 200 OK foobar\r\n") # <-- trivial
<yorickpeterse>
e.g. X-My-Version: 123
<apeiros>
but I guess you don't use a raw socket…
<chris2>
mbrice: and I'd use a X-Version: header or sometthing
<chris2>
apeiros: ;)
<mbrice>
yorickpeterse: that's not an option.
<yorickpeterse>
why not?
<yorickpeterse>
You're ok with fucking the status line but not adding a header?
<mbrice>
apeiros: thanks. that's the way to do it in sinatra as well?
<yorickpeterse>
No
<yorickpeterse>
FYI you might want to mention beforehand what exactly you're using this in
<yorickpeterse>
Sinatra you can use halt!() and the likes
<yorickpeterse>
I think you can give it a literal status string, could be wrong
<mbrice>
haven't found a way to do it in sinatra unfortunately.
<apeiros>
mbrice: do you use raw tcp sockets in sinatra?
<yorickpeterse>
what could possibly go wrong
<mbrice>
yorickpeterse: it's not up to me, i'm just doing my job.
<apeiros>
sinatra is a rack app - chris2 probably knows best how to change the status line with rack
<yorickpeterse>
mbrice: bullshit
<yorickpeterse>
It's your job to make sane decisions, not to take it up the ass and do as you're told
* apeiros
waits for godwin
<yorickpeterse>
You're a developer, not a wage slave
<yorickpeterse>
(I hope)
<yorickpeterse>
If you start mucking with the raw sockets shit will break
<apeiros>
if it's shit, it deserves to break :-p
<apeiros>
speaking of breaks… lunch break. cya guys.
<mbrice>
yorickpeterse: use your energy on something else please.
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<apeiros>
damn… why do I have to go now…
<mbrice>
lunch break as well, thanks apeiros and chris2 :)
<mbrice>
talk to you later maybe.
<yorickpeterse>
mbrice: ha no
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<mbrice>
yorickpeterse: like making money, like i am :)
<yorickpeterse>
mbrice: if you expect me to not give you shit for dumb decisions you're in the wrong channel
<mbrice>
i mean, working.
<mbrice>
yorickpeterse: i don't expect anything from you. i don't care about you. cya
<yorickpeterse>
my feels
<yorickpeterse>
Also you're implying I'm not making money atm, which I very much am
<yorickpeterse>
regardless of whether I'm trying to recommend some random nerd not to break their HTTP stack or actually coding
<yorickpeterse>
There are perfectly sane ways of passing custom shit in HTTP, ones that are easy to work with. Instead you barge in here, request something silly and then dismiss criticism as "lol I don't care".
<yorickpeterse>
Perhaps you are dealing with a system that fundamentally requires it to be in the status line, in that case that's *very* worth mentioning as then yes, it would be the only option
<yorickpeterse>
you might be able to try halt!('200 WTF') in Sinatra
<yorickpeterse>
Though the status will be
<yorickpeterse>
"HTTP/1.1 200 WTF OK"
<yorickpeterse>
So yeah, start digging through Rack is what I'd suggest
<mbrice>
toretore: unfortunately i have to add it to the http status line like "HTTP/1.1 200 OK foobar"
<toretore>
or just do headers['Whatever'] = 'Whutover'
<toretore>
haha
<toretore>
HTTP/1.1 900 NOT OK
<apeiros>
mbrice: Sinatra::Base#response probably returns a Sinatra::Response which inherits from Rack::Response
<apeiros>
I'd check those dos
<apeiros>
*docs
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<mbrice>
apeiros: thanks, i'll check it out
<apeiros>
chris2: seems like rack only takes a numeric value for the status line?
<toretore>
doesn't look like Rack::Response allows you to set the response status message
<toretore>
mbrice: why exactly do you need to add it to the status line?
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<apeiros>
class Rack::Response; attr_accessor :status; end; … response.status = "200 OK foobar"
<apeiros>
If I read the code correctly, that should work
<mbrice>
toretore: there's some software that must read the version number of my app from the the app's http status line. i can't change its behavior unfortunately.
<apeiros>
the status might get overridden later, though
<apeiros>
oh, wrong
<mbrice>
apeiros: oh i'll definately test that
<apeiros>
in def finish, there's status.to_i
<apeiros>
you'll also have to override the #finish method
<toretore>
rack doesn't allow you to set more than a numeric code
<bougyman>
mbrice: what about the thing you put in front of the sinatra app?
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<bougyman>
i know, for instance, lighttpd2 could do this
<apeiros>
toretore: I've only checked the cgi adapter
<apeiros>
and that one just prints the status as passed
<bougyman>
I assume haproxy, nginx, others could.
<toretore>
oh right, i guess it depends on the adapter
<toretore>
i tried ->(e){ ['200 SORT OF OK', {'Content-Type' => 'text/plain'}, ['hello']] } with webrick
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<apeiros>
yeah, webrick adapter has to_i in the adapter
<apeiros>
res.status = status.to_i
<mbrice>
bougyman: i hoped that it wouldn't have to be set in the webserver, so it can work in all my enviroments (different servers).
<toretore>
i think the best solution would be to run a proxy which adds it
<mbrice>
toretore: might be
<toretore>
that way your app won't depend on this ability in whatever lib you're using
<bougyman>
if you wanted to get extremely crazy, netfilter could do it, on linux.
<toretore>
thin lets you do it
<toretore>
curl -i localhost:8080
<toretore>
HTTP/1.1 200 SORT OF OK OK
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<toretore>
... not quite
<toretore>
mbrice: i hope you realize that this is incredibly screwed up and that if you have the slightest chance of avoiding it you should
<apeiros>
so, bottom line is: rack doesn't let you set it in all cases, additionally your webserver may not allow it anyway.
<mbrice>
toretore: yep, just checking out the possibilities :)
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<mbrice>
toretore: are you really Tore Torell?
<toretore>
no lol
<apeiros>
mbrice: so there you go - write your own webserver!
<oddmunds>
haha
<toretore>
does it say that?
<mbrice>
yes.
<apeiros>
toretore: yeah, your whois says "Tore Torell"
<toretore>
lol
<toretore>
almost
<mbrice>
apeiros: thanks :D
<toretore>
tore darell
<toretore>
that's my name
<toretore>
uh huh
<toretore>
mbrice: depending on which http capabilities you want to use, it could be trivial to write a raw tcp http proxy to do it for you
<toretore>
might get complicated if you use persistent connections or chunked encoding
<oddmunds>
toretore: you could be Tore Daredevil Darell
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<toretore>
could be?
<toretore>
i am.
<oddmunds>
haha
<mbrice>
toretore: okay, i'll have a look at that option as well. thanks :)
<mbrice>
thanks for all help everyonem, appreciate it
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<[spoiler]>
:| it's unavailable again
<[spoiler]>
or at least really slow
<[spoiler]>
Why'd someone ddos github
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<yorickpeterse>
because fuck you
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<toretore>
ddosers are getting close to spammers on my list of people to eradicate when i become world dictator
<[spoiler]>
LOL
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<[spoiler]>
Bleh...
<[spoiler]>
I guess github's biting the DDoSt again #notsorry #okmaybealittlesorry
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<[spoiler]>
It lives!
<yorickpeterse>
wat
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<maloik>
in all honesty I don't get why you'd target github
<[spoiler]>
Neither do I
<maloik>
like... sites of political parties... a competitor of yours... someone you have a grudge against
<[spoiler]>
Church freaks could target pornhub, but idk why target github
<[spoiler]>
are there people who hate programming?
<maloik>
I just don't see how github would fit any kind of picture where someone would want to target hem
<[spoiler]>
plot twist: github likes blogging about getting ddosd, so they ddos themselves
<[spoiler]>
or, maybe people who like reading about ddos mitigation are ddosing github
<[spoiler]>
I'll stop spinning weird theories, they're getting crazier by the byte
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<yorickpeterse>
maloik: financial gain (competition), for the lulz, etc
<yorickpeterse>
plenty of reasons
<[spoiler]>
github has competition?
<[spoiler]>
gitden
<[spoiler]>
gitpub
<[spoiler]>
gitbar
<[spoiler]>
gitmotel
<maloik>
there's some companies who compete with github but I don't see them ddos'ing them
<maloik>
there's no point
<maloik>
ddos mitigation companies might...
<maloik>
as a way to get more business
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<maloik>
hmmm... business idea
<maloik>
start a ddos mitigation service by redirecting a ddos to another site
<yorickpeterse>
another reason: ddos github, shit up other companies' systems
<badeball>
[spoiler]: not all have a political agenda
<badeball>
some do it just to see if they can
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<badeball>
sense of accomplishment etc.
<[spoiler]>
Hmm, but it's so pointless. Bleh
<badeball>
no doubt about it
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<paradoxie>
how can I detect that project in a folder is a Rails project or a gem?
<yorickpeterse>
if it takes more than 5 seconds to start it's a Rails project
<apeiros>
lol
<apeiros>
paradoxie: *.gemspec indicates it might be a gem
<apeiros>
as for rails… I'd probably look for Gemfile with rails in it
<apeiros>
alternatively check the dir structure + some standard files
<paradoxie>
apeiros: thanks
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<[spoiler]>
lol @ yorickpeterse's joke
<[spoiler]>
well, it's true-ish, but still funny
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<maloik>
what does "wartbarkeit" mean? It's german
<maloik>
oh wait this is the internet nvm ill google -_-'
<maloik>
maintainability, look at that
<[spoiler]>
it's when you barket a wart
<[spoiler]>
or tha
<[spoiler]>
that
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<yorickpeterse>
whitequark: ping
<whitequark>
pong
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<yorickpeterse>
whitequark: is there a way to tell Ragel that it should ignore but continue on unknown input in a state machine? Right now I have no-ops like `any;` but it would be nice if I could somehow tell it to do that by default
<whitequark>
no
<whitequark>
use 'any;'
<yorickpeterse>
hm
<yorickpeterse>
ta
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