apeiros_ changed the topic of #ruby-lang to: Ruby 2.2.0; 2.1.5; 2.0.0-p598; 1.9.3-p551: http://ruby-lang.org || Paste code on http://gist.github.com
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<womble> If anyone has direct contact to someone behind rubydoc.info, please let them know they're spewing backtraces to the browser.
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<womble> jhass: I opened a case in the rubydoc.info support tracker, too; I was hoping someone might have, say, a cell phone number they could use to ping directly, rather than waiting until someone got around to checking on the support tickets.
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<jhass> what in that backtrace can me enable to attack the site?
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<jhass> or why do you consider it that urgent?
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<womble> jhass: Software versions, filesystem paths. All good, useful info to someone who wished to do harm.
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<jhass> if your system is only secure because the attacker doesn't know those, you have other problems IMO
<jhass> meaning, it's in fact not secure
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* womble eye-rolls
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<msch> jhass: thank you!
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<zenspider> womble: what'd you find?
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<bnagy> womble: stop being wrong. Be less-wrong instead.
<bnagy> you want to escalate 'stack traces visible' to calling people's cell numbers??
<bnagy> that is like.. sev lo. It's sev lo you'd put in when you don't actually have any sev medium to use as filler.
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* womble makes a note to not bother mentioning security issues without weaponised exploit code
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<bnagy> well I didn't say it's not a finding
<bnagy> but you already opened a ticket
<bnagy> also poc exploit code is fine :)
<bnagy> don't weaponise exploits for bugs you're about to kill #protip
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<Charlie_> Hi guys! Is there a way I can do something like this:
<Charlie_> x = 'my_method'; some_object.x
<Charlie_> and have ruby know I mean: some_object.my_method
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<havenwood> Charlie_: some_object.public_send x
<Charlie_> Is there a name for that technique?
<Charlie_> I wanted to google it, but didn't even know what to call it
<Charlie_> Thanks by the way
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<havenwood> Charlie_: Maybe you could call it "explicitly sending" or "dynamically invoking" a method. You might also want to take a look at `send` and `__send__` as well as `public_send`: http://ruby-doc.org/core-2.2.0/Object.html#method-i-public_send
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<tbuehlmann> apeiros, what exactly was your reasoning over why not to use require_relative?
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<yorickpeterse> morning
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<yorickpeterse> tiny channel so quiet
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<bnagy> \o
<Eising> yorickpeterse: make some noise, then :)
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<yorickpeterse> I just did
<Eising> alright
<Eising> well, carry on then,.
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<yorickpeterse> lol, people contacting our support box in all caps
<yorickpeterse> "WHY HAVE YOU NOT REPLIED YET OR DO YOU NOT KNOW THE ANSWER?"
<yorickpeterse> original Email was sent over the weekend
<yorickpeterse> apparently "weekend" is not a universal concept
<yorickpeterse> TIL
<centrx> "PLEASE REPLY OR WE WILL THINK YOU ARE DUMB"
<DefV> "OH BOY IS IT CAPS-LOCK DAY ALREADY?"
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<yorickpeterse> I basically told the dude to behave or gtfo
<yorickpeterse> (yay FOSS support by Email, blegh)
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<guillaume-rb> Hi everyone I search a way to get a string without is first elem. In python i would use something like str[1:] if i remember well do you know what is the most elegant way on ruby? Thanks :)
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<pipework> guillaume-rb: string[1..-1]
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<malev> guillaume-rb basicamente usas lo mismo que en python, slices
<guillaume-rb> omg it worked like this thx love you :D
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<pipework> cheers
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<imperator> there was a Regexp#captures method wasn't there? or am i getting senile?
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<jhass> I remember it too
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<imperator> i see named_captures, but no captures
<jhass> yeah, weird
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<imperator> dafuq
<jhass> ActiveSupport?
<jhass> wait
<jhass> we shall look at MatchData
<jhass> there
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<imperator> aha!
<imperator> thanks, spaced
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<enkristoffer> I'm working on a gem that handles specific files and I'm including such a file with the gem for testing. Should I just put it in the test directory, or is there a different standard for such files that I don't know about?
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<imperator> enkristoffer, in my gemspec i set spec.development_dependencies
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<imperator> on gem install users can pass --development if they want those deps
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<imperator> hm, is there a way to distinguish between a regular and a zombie process with ruby core classes?
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<apeiros_> let it bite another process? seriously, though - if there's a way, it's probably in Process
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<pipework> imperator: Get the ppid?
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<imperator> pipework, don't think you can get the ppid of any process except the current process with ruby
<pipework> You know, I bet you could, but probably not just in ruby.
<pipework> You might have to shell out.
<centrx> Have to get the pipework support package
<imperator> oh, i know you can do that :)
<imperator> sys-proctable
<womble> def is_zombie(pid); File.read("/proc/#{pid}/stat").split(/\s+/)[2] == "Z"; end
<imperator> well, waitpid with an exception handler would work but then, of course, you'd be waiting
<imperator> womble, yeah, needs to be cross-platform ;)
<womble> All ruby core classes. <grin>
<womble> imperator: You didn't say *that*
<womble> Not all platforms have a concept of a zombie, anyway...
<pipework> womble: Nice stuff there.
* womble likes apeiros_ suggestion about the biting
<pipework> >> pid = 1; File.read("/proc/#{pid}/stat")
<eval-in__> pipework => (https://eval.in/287298)
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<womble> I'm not surprised that eval.in isn't a fan of letting you read /proc
<pipework> Kinda would have expected something more exceptiony
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<imperator> womble, let's assume any unixy platform
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<wnd> not all platforms have /proc :-)
<imperator> right
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<imperator> hm, is Process.waitpid(pid, Process::WNOHANG) the answer?
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