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chris2: and what about women, or gender-queer individuals?
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<|jemc|>
chris2: even if it seems innocuous, I'd ask you please refrain from gender-oriented remarks
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<|jemc|>
and before you call me the "PC-police" - know that I'm not restricting your behavior in any way - just conditionalizing my respect or participation based on it
<wallerdev>
eh it's an expression though
<wallerdev>
if you said real people use 1.8 it would mean something completely different
<wallerdev>
like only imaginary people use 2.0
<Senjai>
2.x4life
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<weaksauce>
is there a roadmap out there for 3.0?
<wallerdev>
i think everyones just gonna switch to javascript by then
<|jemc|>
wallerdev: when real-life individuals are offended or feel excluded by an expression, even if you don't agree with or get the reasons why they feel offended, if you're trying to be inclusive to those people the best way to do that is to refrain from using it anyway, out of respect for those individuals
<wallerdev>
sure :)
<wallerdev>
maybe something like real men and women
<wallerdev>
although maybe then you're excluding others who dont identify as those 2 types
<wallerdev>
hmm
<wallerdev>
guess you just have to scrap that expression haha
<|jemc|>
heh
<|jemc|>
anyway, it's just one of those things where I get disappointed with myself later if I don't speak up
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<Senjai>
wallerdev: NO, ATWOODS LAW IS FALSE
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<wallerdev>
:p
<Senjai>
|jemc|: Chiming in late, but "real men" is a phrase, that has been used in various adverts around the world. I think its obvious its meant to just be a pun based on that.
<|jemc|>
Senjai: while I don't necessarily disagree with the content of your argument, in my estimation it is overriden by the real feelings of individuals who are offended by that expression, and who are also underrepresented in software
<|jemc|>
whether or not I agree, I make a personal choice to try to be respectful and inclusive in hopes of bringing more good minds to software
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<wallerdev>
yeah there are definitely a lot of problems with gender diversity in the software industry
<Senjai>
|jemc|: That's fair, but we cannot hold people to what they don't say. so
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<Ozzymandias>
ey anyone here that can help me with using an API
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<jhass>
Ozzymandias: ask your actual question, not for someone that you hope has the answer
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<chris2>
|jemc|: sorry
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<jdecuirm>
hey guys, good night! for my class to use functions in a module, i have to require and include the module right?
<havenn>
jdecuirm: that's a good way
<jdecuirm>
thanks havenn, the problem is that undefined method 'skip' for Parser:Class error appears
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<jdecuirm>
and i'm including the module
<havenn>
jdecuirm: If you're calling the method on the class and not an instance of the class, it's probably extend you're looking for.
<apeiros_>
jdecuirm: the error seems to indicate that you're using it in a class method. including a module adds the module's methods as instance methods.
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<apeiros_>
havenn beat me to it :)
<jdecuirm>
thanks guys you are cool
<jdecuirm>
so extend instead of include
<jdecuirm>
thanks guys, worked like a charm
<havenn>
apeiros_: Can I pester you for a topic change? Might be nice to remove 1.9.3-p551 and switch the two http to https.
<paolooo>
whew.. just figured out the solution.... `card.desc = 'test'` and then `card.save`
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<yorickpeterse>
morning
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<Eising>
jhass: you around?
<Eising>
anyway
<jhass>
yeah, but just ask the channel, not people ;)
<Eising>
yeah, I was just about to :)
<Eising>
anyway, yesterday I was messing with an encoding problem relating to mysql
<Eising>
I have data in my database written in UTF-8 by and older application and with the mysql gem/adapter, and I have data written to it by newer application using the mysql2 adapter, that better handles encoding
<Eising>
for some reason, when I read a string saved by the old app, containing non-ascii characters, they become garbled. Obviously the old mysql adapter read the string fine. Both strings end up as UTF-8 in ruby
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<Eising>
okay, so I've come closer to my problem, but not much closer to a solution: The problem is, I have things stored in my mysql database in both latin1 and utf-8 (luckily not in the same table). The mysql and mysql2 gems translates on the fly to the encoding ruby uses, so I data is alrady garbled when they reach ruby
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<Eising>
is it is alrady garbled on arrival, force_encoding doesn't seem to work, yet it works to do a .bytes.pack("C*") for some reason
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<Eising>
disregard the pack thing. That has mixed results
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<mikker>
can I shorten pathnames in my stack traces?
<mikker>
my ruby is installed via chruby, so all the paths are kind of long and I like a big font size, so all the lines break and the stack traces become miles long