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<zz_mac>
hello guys, I am currently trying to translate the security page on ruby-lang.org, I see PaaS platformers and couldnt quite understand it. any idea?
<zz_mac>
like what does they do
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<TvL2386>
hi guys, how can I extract the last N lines of a String? I did "string.split("\n").last(N).join("\n"), but any empty lines get removed which I don't want. I want something like "cat /var/log/syslog | tail N"
<bnagy>
s.lines.last n
<TvL2386>
bnagy, wowie!
<TvL2386>
tyvm
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<bnagy>
np. It's not very efficient if s is huge, but good enough for government work
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<TvL2386>
for my usecase it's perfect
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<tamini_>
Hey, I'm running make check on a ruby rpm I'm building for SLES11 and SLES12 and I run into this problem: Error in `./test/runner.rb': malloc_check_get_size: memory corruption: 0x000.... I've tried putting garbage collection into stress mode but that then produces what I think is a NoMemory Error. I'm not sure how to proceed, has anyone run into this before?
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<darix>
tamini_: why are you building your own ruby again?
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<tamini_>
darix: just to learn mostly
<darix>
the package does make check already
<tamini_>
i know, its during the building of the rpm that I get the error
<darix>
tamini_: how much memory does your build host have?
<tamini_>
it has about 4G free
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<darix>
that should normally be enough.
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<ruby-lang206>
when I start the IRB makes a search on all the folders on my linux user, you can disable this?
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<jhass>
ruby-lang206: perhaps something odd in your .irbrc?
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<ruby-lang206>
I tried to delete it and is still doing the same .. :(
<jhass>
you're sure it's your entire home, not just rubygems reading the specs?
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<apeiros>
I remember a gem having done that for me as it had a broken Dir.glob + require in it
<apeiros>
but can't remember the name
<apeiros>
you can ctrl-c it while it's scanning and check the backtrace you get
<ruby-lang206>
if I start in my folder irb ruby irb starts much faster ..
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<ruby-lang206>
ok, when short execution tells me that it starts in: usr/share/rubygems-integration/all/specifications/rails-assets-jquery-ui.gemspec
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<ruby-lang206>
I renamed temporarily rails-assets-jquery-ui.gemspec and it seems that now if it works well ... when you need to use irb rails buscare a better solution .. thanks
<darix>
ruby-lang206: #rubyonrails
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<RickHull>
my ruby-install-5.0 Makefile does have an `update`
<RickHull>
still unclear on what this means for me or testing update
<RickHull>
test the new functionality?
<havenwood>
RickHull: Hrm, the 0.5.0 release does have a `make update`.
<RickHull>
the main thing i am look for with the update is a fresher list of rubies
<RickHull>
*available rubies
<havenwood>
RickHull: So the old way was running `make update` before a new ruby-install release to replace checksums with the latest from the ruby-versions repo.
<havenwood>
RickHull: The new way, on the cache branch, is automatic syncing based on timestamps and fine grained logic for what needs updating.
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<havenwood>
RickHull: So old way was a make command really meant for the release process. The new way is meant for general use to keep things automatically updated to the latest.
<RickHull>
gotcha
<havenwood>
RickHull: So in cache branch running `ruby-install jruby` will check ruby-versions for version or checksum changes for just JRuby if those files are outdated. \o/
<RickHull>
ok, so if I wanted to run this version, I should clone the repo rather than wget per README?
<havenwood>
It's intended for release so any testing would be great!
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<havenwood>
RickHull: I think most of the kinks have been worked out, so if you try it please report anything you run into!
<havenwood>
RickHull: Yeah, clone the repo, switch to cache branch, then install.
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<havenwood>
RickHull: On first run, it should then sync up with ruby-versions for latest metadata.
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<havenwood>
RickHull: Or if you specify a Ruby, just that Ruby. You'll know if it's working if everything is most recent and it doesn't blow up. :O
<RickHull>
thanks, i'm busy using the current release, probably won't try the cache branch today
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<RickHull>
i basically got over my little hurdle, but am definitely interested in testing the new functionality
<havenwood>
RickHull: Cool. Lemme know if you get a chance to try it! :)
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<RickHull>
pipework: havenwood: hmm, i'm running into some issues. basically I am the admin of a multiuser machine, and I'm trying to make sure all the users have the latest ruby environment. installed gems, various versions, able to switch using chruby
<RickHull>
without making every user build up their chruby environment from scratch
<RickHull>
hence, wanting to install to /opt/rubies
<havenwood>
RickHull: Having trouble installing to /opt/rubies?
<RickHull>
no, that worked
<RickHull>
but when i run e.g. `gem install` as my user, it installs gems to ~/.rubies (or similar)
<RickHull>
worth noting is that I have installed chruby as my own user, and been using homedir for everything
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<RickHull>
it's only now that I'm looking to make this environment available to other users
<RickHull>
s/installed chruby/installed several rubies/
<RickHull>
it looks like the way to proceed is to `gem install` as root
<RickHull>
another slight twist is that the main project this is for sort of uses bundler
<havenwood>
RickHull: You can either sudo for gems for a system location or set --user-install to tell RubyGems to install gems in the user home dir.
<RickHull>
my understanding is that --user-install doesn't play nice with chruby
<RickHull>
but yeah, maybe i just need to `sudo gem install` as my user
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<zenspider>
RickHull: gem install as root is the right way to go for global gems. gem install as user to install privately
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<zenspider>
OR... you could probably set up the gems dir with stickybit... but you're opening yourself up at that point.
<RickHull>
ok, makes sense
<RickHull>
the last mini-hurdle is that the project i care about sort of uses bundler. there is a Gemfile and Gemfile.lock, but they were outdated and none of the docs say to `bundle exec`
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<RickHull>
I updated the Gemfile and ran `bundle install`
<RickHull>
and this has the nice side effect of installing all the gems to the "system" whether root or user homedir
<RickHull>
and then `bundle exec` isn't necessary
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<RickHull>
however, doing `bundle install` as root throws all kinds of scary warnings
<RickHull>
that said, it seemed to do what i want, which installing 30-40 gems
<RickHull>
zenspider: what's the latest with Gemfile-style integration with rubygems? can i point rubygems to a lockfile and get all those gems installed?
<RickHull>
or get a bundler-style environment?
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<zenspider>
RickHull: supposedly? I dunno. I'm kinda out of the rubygems game other than looking for things to optimize
<havenwood>
RickHull: `gem install --file` or the shorthand `gem i -g` to install Gemfile deps with Gemfile.lock
<RickHull>
ah, thanks
<havenwood>
RickHull: Set `RUBYGEMS_GEMDEPS=-` for automatic discovery of Gemfiles.
<RickHull>
that should settle it for me then. ruby-install via root, gem i -g via root
<RickHull>
i'll probably be explicit for now
<havenwood>
RickHull: Rails still hardcodes to Bundler, but yeah it works.
<zenspider>
RickHull: do all the users on this system WANT your bundled gems? just depends on the setup
<zenspider>
"works"... it has some severe problems still... but it will get there
<RickHull>
yeah, all the users just care about this one project
<RickHull>
(non-rails)
<RickHull>
and they want it to "just work"
<RickHull>
if that means going 100% bundler and `bundle exec`, that's fine
<RickHull>
but from a user perspective, `bundle exec` is less than ideal, and i think i can sysadmin my way around needing it
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<RickHull>
and if anyone wants to do more custom stuff, they can use ruby-install / chruby at a user level and steer clear of the main project
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<zenspider>
nah. once everything is installed, assuming the gem home isn't littered with crap, you can drop all the bundle exec stuff... it'll run more efficiently too
<RickHull>
well yeah, that's basically exactly what i'm doing today
<RickHull>
my only hesitation is that `bundle install` as root has all kinds of scary warnings
<zenspider>
anything to avoid bundler...
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<zenspider>
not sure why it does, unless they bought the mac homebrew BS too
<RickHull>
and so i'm thinking `gem install -g` as root should accomplish the same thing
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<RickHull>
> Don't run Bundler as root. Bundler can ask for sudo if it is needed, and
<RickHull>
installing your bundle as root will break this application for all non-root
<RickHull>
users on this machine.
<RickHull>
not true in my case :)
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<zenspider>
that's a horseshit assertion to begin with.
<RickHull>
yeah, or a useful heuristic ;)
<zenspider>
installing gems as root breaks an app for non-root users? since when? how the fuck does this laptop even work??
* baweaver
grabs popcorn
<RickHull>
heh
<RickHull>
i think it's more that people were doing `sudo bundle install` by default / cargo cult
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<RickHull>
and if you were vendoring or something, that would be bad
<zenspider>
I just can't think of a time where that would break something UNLESS there are gems that want to write to their own gem dir... which is a no-no
<RickHull>
but i'm just guessing
<zenspider>
ah... yes. vendoring is a whole other issue...
<zenspider>
maybe it should only warn if you have that flag and are id 0
<RickHull>
that's my guess
<RickHull>
but imma just steer clear :)
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<zenspider>
yeah. me too. rubygems is a burnout project
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<ruby-lang608>
and the ruby script someone proposed ALMOST works
<ruby-lang608>
any way to modify this ruby script so that it could go through and replace all the timestamps within a document?
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<jhass>
ruby-lang608: use gsub instead of sub
<ljarvis>
it uses sub!; maybe you want gsub!
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<ruby-lang608>
cool, i'll try that
<ruby-lang608>
one sec
<ruby-lang608>
YESSS!!!!
<ruby-lang608>
thank you so much! you guys ROCK
<havenwood>
brought to you by the letter "g"
<jhass>
globalization ftw I guess?
<ruby-lang608>
yes indeed!
<ruby-lang608>
BOOM!
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<BanzaiJoe>
boss is flying in on Monday, I suppose I should clean up my office before end of day =\
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<BanzaiJoe>
look at that, throw 95% of it in the trash, that was easy
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<ysuo>
got an industry question... I'm currently going to school for computer science. but a lot of people keep telling me to switch because I just turned 30. is it really that hard to find jobs in IT?
<baweaver>
So we finally have the official deprecation of ruby-lang eh?
<baweaver>
Let's put it this way ysuo
<baweaver>
If I didn't like my job, I could walk out the door and have a new one within the week
<baweaver>
If you're good, it's a non-issue. On average I get 4-5 recruiter messages a day
<Obfuscate>
ysuo: The industry isn't the issue: the degree is. Go get a degree that has "engineering" in the title (and then become a software developer anyways).
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<baweaver>
Of all the industries dying, this isn't one of them
<ysuo>
how does "engineering" help?
<zenspider>
baweaver: I'm not getting that many. :P
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<baweaver>
zenspider: Bay area mate
<zenspider>
maybe I overtrained my spam filter... hrm... that's gonna cost me points on recruiterspam.com
<baweaver>
'tis crazy here
<baweaver>
Now if I were to qualify that with places I'd actually WANT to work at....
<zenspider>
I do hope you're feeding recruiterspam.com
<baweaver>
Heck, I just had one use a clickbait title
<Obfuscate>
ysuo: CS degree programs have become rather generic and are flooded with students, and businesses know because they see them constantly on resumes. If you have e.g. an electrical engineering degree, you stand out.
<ysuo>
and baweaver: what is "good" in your book? for example, I was in aviation before this. that was a "passion" industry as well. and I could tell someone have made it because he pretty much knew everything.
<Obfuscate>
ysuo: Then all you need to do is pass the fizzbuzz test...
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<zenspider>
ysuo: I would take Obfuscate's advice with a grain of salt.
<baweaver>
zenspider: So I replied to it saying "You'll never guess what his response is!" with the message "No"
<baweaver>
I'll have to feed it later.
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<baweaver>
though some of mine would probably give it an ulsur
<zenspider>
baweaver: haha
<baweaver>
Even had one recruiter try and recruit me for my own company
<baweaver>
on my current team no less
<dfockler>
I wish I got recruiter spam, apparently I haven't made it yet :P
<Obfuscate>
zenspider: I've heard it fairly often from recruiters, fwiw.
<zenspider>
aaron got a rejection letter from airbnb... he'd never applied for a job
<zenspider>
some recruiter signed him up for it instead
<zenspider>
never asked him
<zenspider>
prolly an internal recruiter too
<baweaver>
Heh
<baweaver>
Everyone could use a little Tenderlove though <3
<ysuo>
I think I'll do computer engineering instead of electrical engineering. image processing, computer vision etc. seem very interesting to me
<zenspider>
well.. that's the thing... he gets this email saying "we're very sorry to inform you that you're not a fit blahblah" and he's like WHAAAT?
<baweaver>
That's awesome(ly horrible)
<zenspider>
he tweeted about it, they saw it, and sent him a gift certificate
<zenspider>
now I just need to sign him up for more jobs and he can start buying my lunches
<ysuo>
and I agree, computer science focuses a lot on math and algorithms. I want to go to college and actually make something fun you know...
<baweaver>
Kinda a shot though that he didn't even get accepted given that
<baweaver>
must have some nasty irony there
<ysuo>
if I want to learn algorithms I can pick up a book and read, no?
<zenspider>
ysuo: you can say that about any industry.
<baweaver>
zenspider: One of my old coworkers had a "plan C" to get rid of annoying people. Shoot their resume to every recruiter in the area
<zenspider>
I just picked up a biochem book. does that mean I'm gonna be able to do biochemistry in a few months?
<zenspider>
hahaha
<baweaver>
zenspider: I did
<zenspider>
that's ... horrible
<baweaver>
zenspider: Same guy self describes as Lawful Evil
<zenspider>
hahahaha but of course
<baweaver>
I believe it too. You should see what he did to some of the PMs that pissed him off
<RickHull>
ysuo: engineering degree or CS -- details matter more than this one choice
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<RickHull>
main thing is to be engaged, work on projects, build portfolio, do open source
<RickHull>
i would not consider age a factor, 30 or otherwise
<dfockler>
If you want to read about algorithms you can use an algorithms book to do that
<baweaver>
zenspider: You ever come down for golden gate ruby?
<ysuo>
I'll remember that...
<Obfuscate>
Accreditation wont matter much (for programming work at least) after you have a job in the industry anyways.