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<Zambz>
hey there guys, I've had to manually build some C libraries that Ruby depends on (such as libyaml) which are placed in /usr/local/lib. I can build Ruby just fine now and it builds the related components but afterwards, I must explicitly export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib or scripts that use the libraries don't find them
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<Zambz>
is there any way to set the Ruby search paths for C libraries?
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<blf>
Would it be acceptable (or rather considered good practice) to provide a property on a class which holds an error message, or is there a better practice for providing callers with error messages?
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<banister`shop>
blf: probably a constant on the class would be more appropriate, depending on what u're doing
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<blf>
banister`shop: even if the error message could change?
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<banister`shop>
blf: then not...
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<blf>
Hm... Okay. I'll give the error property a shot and see how far I get.
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<bricker`LA>
Forgive me for such a laoded question, but is there a reason that Nil in Ruby doesn't behave the same as Nil in Objective-C? In other words, it would respond to any message any just return nil? Maybe it's just because that would cause some confusing bugs.
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<lolcathost>
bricker`LA: nil responding to messages in Objective-C is confusing as hell. At least if you get an error, you can easily tell your program has a bug.
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<jeebster>
debugging objective-c is a bitch
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<bricker`LA>
lolcathost: that's what I thought, thank
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<tintin>
hi
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<tintin>
What is the difference between gem and gemset?
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<tintin>
what is gemset?
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<charliesome>
tintin: gemset is rvm terminology
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<fryguy>
tintin: gemset is a thing from rvm that lets you have multiple gems installed and switch which sets of gems are installed. largely irrelevant now with the widespread use of bundler
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<tintin>
Is it possible to maintain seperate gemset without using rvm?
<fryguy>
tintin: use bundler
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<tintin>
fryguy: is bundler installed by default with ruby?
<fryguy>
no
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<tintin>
fryguy: gem install bundle ?? is it?
<fryguy>
yep
<tintin>
fryguy: gem install bundler ?? is it?
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<fryguy>
and read teh documenation on bundlers site, it's pretty straightforward
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<tintin>
fryguy: how can i maintain seperate gemset with bundler?
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<fryguy>
tintin: read the docs on bundlers site
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<paranox>
hello pals
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<paranox>
how does one go about including a project on github in a rails project if there is no .gemspec?
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<fryguy>
paranox: drop it in vendor directory
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<r0bgleeson>
paranox: i think bundler tries to build one for you or i heard some talk about that
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<paranox>
fryguy: that might just work
<paranox>
r0bgleeson: nope, bundler complains
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<paranox>
the correct answer was rails plugin install <git_repo>
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<paranox>
which installed it in vendor/plugins as fryguy mentioned
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<tarrant1>
I just noticed that in ruby1.8.7 ("host_1" .. "host_20").to_a hangs but ("host_01" .. "host_20").to_a works. Any easy workarounds or should I write my own function?
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<fryguy>
tarrant1: or you can consider upgrading to a more modern ruby version
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<tarrant1>
Hundreds of machines not quite so easy
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<tarrant1>
We have newer ruby on boxes that run primarly ruby but we use default ubuntu ruby with puppet everywhere
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<fryguy>
isn't that the point of configuration management? to make updates like that easy? anyway, I digress, sounds like you need to write your own function
<tarrant1>
It makes it easier doesn't make it painless/one line change. But yea time to write my own function. Thanks.
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<blf>
clear
<blf>
oops :)
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Hey guys, I'm unable to call undef_method from within my classes for some reason. Any ideas?
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<stenno>
good day, i installed rubygems via the apt repositories on my ubuntu machine. when i choose to remove it via 'apt-get remove --purge', will the installed gems (globally and locally) be removed too?
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<shevy>
test
<shevy>
anyone can read me?
<marwinism>
yeah
<MrZYX>
I can't
<shevy>
ok... I am on weechat now... this is confusing like hell
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<shevy>
you are all in different colours!
<marwinism>
LSD has that effect ;)
<stenno>
ah well i will just TIAS and remove them by hand if not
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<shevy>
ok
<shevy>
now I must find out how to not read joining people...
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<Hanmac>
hm for the most users i like them, shevy for sample is in dark purple
<shevy>
damn
<shevy>
Hanmac: you just appeared in pink background and yellow bold foreground
<marwinism>
I got a sinatra related question, doing some things with REST, and when putting body(foo.to_json) it outputs as a JSON object, but surrounded bu "{}" and ofcourse it gives me \" on everything. Supposed to be like that?
<Hanmac>
;P then you have a very ugly chat programm
<shevy>
yeah Hanmac
<shevy>
test
<marwinism>
works?
<shevy>
hmmmm
<shevy>
did someone join or quit?
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<shevy>
oh yes :(
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<shevy>
alright, that's it ... I need another client
<marwinism>
ok, so I figured that out.. I did to_json twice at some point... *facepalm*
<Hanmac>
shevy i use pidgin
<shevy>
Hanmac: oh? that works too?
<shevy>
pidgin works for me
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<shevy>
how do I use it?
<shevy>
I mean for IRC
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<shevy>
my xchat is broken and hexchat is also broken :( xchat does not compile against newer glib versions, hexchat has an annoying floating point exception when I try to start it
<jokke>
does someone know of an elegant way to go through all permutations of casing for a string?
<Hanmac>
hm just add an new konto in pidgin and select IRC
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<shevy>
ok Hanmac
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<shevy>
shevy:
<shevy>
grrrr
<marwinism>
konto ^_^
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<jokke>
as in "foo" "Foo" fOo" "foO" "FOo" "FoO" "FOO" "fOo" "fOO"
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<shevy2>
test
<shevy>
hahaha
<Hanmac>
shevy2 it works
<shevy>
man that is also awful
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<shevy>
but better than peechat
<shevy>
I am gonna quit
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<shevy2>
ok...
<shevy2>
damn it..
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<shevy>
Hanmac say something
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<Hanmac>
shevy: "something"
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<shevy>
hehe
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<jokke>
any ideas on the string permutation?
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<shevy>
jokke no real idea
<shevy>
if you just want to upcase or downcase, you could iterate through .each or .each_byte or .each_char ... if you want to permutate on all characters too, I'd also use .each*
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<jokke>
shevy: i just want to upcase or downcase
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<corehook>
require 'net/ssh'
<corehook>
what package i must setup ?
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<jokke>
corehook: i don't understand your question
<jokke>
(i'm still writing the upper lowercase permutation thingy
<jokke>
i took a different approach
<jokke>
recursion
<ohcibi>
i'm executing a command with `` and puts the output... the output contains colored output, however when putsing it, the colors are gone... how to preserve colors?
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ohcibi: some programs suppress coloring when they're not directly attached to a terminal
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<ohcibi>
heftig: so your guess is that the colors are not removed by puts but by the command itself?
<heftig>
find the parameter that makes it output color anyway, if possible
<heftig>
yes
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<jokke>
is Integer a subclass of rational?
<jokke>
nah
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<kraljev2>
sure not, that'd be pointless
<jokke>
whats the parent of Float and Integer?
<apeiros_>
jokke: Float.ancestors
<jokke>
kraljev2: yeah i realized that :P
<apeiros_>
enjoy rubys introspectability (is that a word?)
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<kraljev2>
Does aynone know what happed with the proposal of initializers in constructors?
<apeiros_>
i.e., & being a method means its meaning depends entirely on the receiver
<kraljev2>
but if i know both arguments are bools
<apeiros_>
I'd still use &&
<kraljev2>
eg. TrueClass and FalseClass
<apeiros_>
syntax is faster than method dispatch
<kraljev2>
ok, right :)
<apeiros_>
and it's more obvious to the reader. a method you have to look up the receiver and the method
<apeiros_>
syntax - you should just know :)
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<jokke>
D4T: i did it like this result = []; 3.times {|i| result.push seconds/60**i}; puts "#{result[0]} hours, #{result[1]} minutes and #{result[2]} seconds"
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<kraljev2>
['a', 'b', 'c'].join([' x ', ' y '])
<kraljev2>
=> 'a x b y c'
<kraljev2>
what is the most elegant way to do this
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<D4T>
I'm surprised there isn't an easier way. seems a bit overkill really.
<jokke>
D4T: yeah
<MrZYX>
kraljev2: %w{a b c}.zip(%w{x y}).join(' ')
<jokke>
at least i couldn't find any
<D4T>
:)
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<kraljev2>
:D
<jokke>
oh and that's wrong
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<jokke>
should be result.push seconds /= 60**i
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<jokke>
>> seconds = 2848; result = []; 3.times {|i| result.push seconds /= 60**i}; result
<jokke>
gitesh: but seriously. I'd start with www.tryruby.org
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<gitesh>
jokke: even me:) not 15min completed yet. See you then, mates.
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<jokke>
what a happy fellow :)
<Hanmac>
platzhirsch1: attributes are only shortcuts ... and without parsing the source you still can not find them (because later you cant difference between an attribute and an normal defined method)
<platzhirsch1>
Hanmac: makes sense, thanks for pointing out
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<Hanmac>
platzhirsch1: sample of one of my C++ bindings ... i define the methods with C-macros, so there is no nice code source body, and i use some magic so that even rdoc thinks that my stuff are attributes (and later the user can not differ)
<failshell>
[socket.c:1494:__socket_proto_state_machine] 0-socket.management: reading from socket failed. Error (Transport endpoint is not connected), peer (127.0.0.1:1014)
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<failshell>
i keep getting messages like that in my logs. how do i fix this?
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<Luyt>
What is supposed to be listening on port 1014?
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<failshell>
no clue. the port keeps changing also in the logs
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<failshell>
i grepped 1014 in /etc/glusterfs
<failshell>
no results
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<Hanmac>
Luyt about rails you are in the wrong channel
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<Luyt>
Hanmac: I know this is the #Ruby channel, not #RubyOnRails. Where did I mention Rails?
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<Hanmac>
Luyt: the transcript is about rails
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<Luyt>
Hanmac: Oh, that's just a part of it. A substantial part is also about programming languages and how DHH views them
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<Luyt>
And the're lots of Ruby praise in it ;-)
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<Luyt>
I also like his views about Java ;-)
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<zepelin>
yup i see that now, i can reference to my new class from variable but object created using that variable (ff.new) does not have knowledge of the name of its class, when i use constant (F.new), the new object knows its a class of F
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<zepelin>
apeiros: thank you for solving this out
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<InFlames>
i am trying to gsub a string, but i need to be sure my string to replace doesn't have specific characters attached to it (i am replacing @variable with $variable, but not @font-face, etc)
<InFlames>
i know i could loop over an array, but is there a simpler more DRY method?
<InFlames>
maybe not more DRY, but more OO
<MrZYX>
google regex lookbehind expressions
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<InFlames>
oh MrZYX, great suggestion, i didn't even think about letting regex do the conditionals
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<InFlames>
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<platzhirsch1>
banisterfiend: Thanks again for the recommendation for pry-byebug, works just fine with Ruby 2.0.0 for now
<banisterfiend>
platzhirsch1: really? that's cool
<platzhirsch1>
I totally forgot how painless debugging feels
<hoelzro>
and they're asking him ridiculously hard math questions
<hoelzro>
and he's getting them right
<banisterfiend>
platzhirsch1: sweet, i haven't tried it before, happy it works :)
<banisterfiend>
hoelzro: ahh
<banisterfiend>
hoelzro: thanks
<platzhirsch1>
banisterfiend: any idea what causes the troubles? The behavior is really weird
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<banisterfiend>
platzhirsch1: what causes the trouble in 2.0 ?
<banisterfiend>
i mean for pry-debugger?
<platzhirsch1>
yes
<platzhirsch1>
or everything above 1.9.3
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<banisterfiend>
platzhirsch: well the reason is that the 'debugger' gem is a C extension that digs into the private C API of Ruby
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<banisterfiend>
platzhirsch: in ruby 2.0 they significantly changed the C API, so straight up the normal 'debugger' gem wont work. As a result there's been some minor work-arounds to this, but none of them are solid
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<Hanmac>
banisterfiend: watch the series "Life on Mars" (the british one) ;P
<platzhirsch>
banisterfiend: I see, that makes sense. But sounds solvable, just if there would be enough time :)
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<platzhirsch>
banisterfiend: works for me, but who knows. The fact that this is a fork just feels even more bleeding edge
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<banisterfiend>
platzhirsch: well, debugger itself was a fork of ruby-debug
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<platzhirsch>
I shouldn't talk so bad about it. In my head forks are still supposed to provide a place for writing pull requests, but it's more than that
<kapowaz>
when I call it with three args passed, I get the arg error
<kapowaz>
if I call it with two, I don't.
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<kapowaz>
is it because I'm setting the default value to nil?
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<Spooner_>
kapowaz, Nope, it should be fine with 2 or 3 args.
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<kapowaz>
Spooner_: that's what I thought. I can't understand :|
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<Spooner_>
What is the error message?
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<kapowaz>
ArgumentError
<Hanmac>
banisterfiend: do you know the series "life on mars"? ... you should watch it, its very "meta"
<kapowaz>
wrong number of arguments (3 for 2)
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<banisterfiend>
Hanmac: k00, have you seen the james baxter episode
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<Hanmac>
not yet
<Spooner_>
kapowaz, No sense in that. Either you haven't defined the method like that or you aren't calling it as you think you are or...*shrugs*
<banisterfiend>
Hanmac: for god's sake, you're supposed to be an adventure time fan, i dont even know u anymore
<kapowaz>
something weird is definitely happening with this specific method. It's now complaining about wrong number of args after I changed it to accept a single arg (a hash) instead…
<kapowaz>
only now it's saying wrong number, 1 for 2
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<kapowaz>
how can it be expecting two args?
* Spooner_
shrugs.
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<Spooner_>
Show some code?
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<banisterfiend>
lol
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<banisterfiend>
hack attack
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<kapowaz>
I'm just going to skip this for now. I'm too tired to go on a snipe hunt.
<kapowaz>
I'm just adding a tabindex to some elements. I can do that another time.
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<alex88>
hi guys
<alex88>
I'm trying to use jekyll with rack-jekyll, rack-jekyll says s.add_dependency 'jekyll', ">= 0.12.0", "< 2.0" in it's gemspec, but why it install jekyll 0.12.1?
<alex88>
when 1.0.1 is out?
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<alex88>
oh, just seen master allows jekyll 1.0.1
<alex88>
not latest gem version
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<ravster>
is it possible to use arel for the same things I'm doing right now with sub-queries and postgres query windows?
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<unholycrab>
`gem install jekyll` ... I get the message "Killed"
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<unholycrab>
are there logs that will tell me why my gem install was killed?
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<Hanmac>
unholycrab: maybe it was the hyde that kills jekyll ... ;P
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<unholycrab>
i am totally new to ruby/gems. just poking around
<unholycrab>
what is the hyde?
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<apeiros>
unholycrab: he's pulling your leg
<Sicp>
I am trying to parse "int x,y,z$" for a small LL(1) parser
<apeiros>
jekyll & hyde - don't you know the story?
<unholycrab>
:C
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<Sicp>
to get the characters, what I'm doing right now is input.each_char do |single|
<Sicp>
how can I say "if you find an i followed by an n followed by a t, do etc.."?
<Sicp>
cause I'm chomping the input and then for each char I do stuff, I don't want to first be reading strings then start reading chars
<Sicp>
I tried "when 'i' && 'n' && 't'"
<Sicp>
lol
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<philcrissman>
Sicp: it might be easier to split the string into tokens. Split by spaces and commas in the case of your example.
<Sicp>
but it's just 1 string that I am supposed to read for this problem, it should be able to read "int x,y,z"
<Sicp>
that's it
<Sicp>
I can read "i x,y,z" of course, but not int ..
<philcrissman>
Sicp: I don't think most parsers work character by character... tokens.
<philcrissman>
Sicp: "this problem"?
<Sicp>
of course it's a token, yes, in theory
<Sicp>
yes, a problem that I am trying to solve..
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<Sicp>
tokens are all over the book, and I studied with "tokens" in mind, but in practice it translates to reading 1 character
<Sicp>
else I'd have to say, read strings until you encounter the separators, like you said
<philcrissman>
Sicp: why?
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<philcrissman>
Sicp: regular expressions would be another way to go.
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<Sicp>
what you mentioned above supposes that I know what the string is going to be
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<Sicp>
I am writing to accept "anything", anything that just so happens to be dictated as "int x,y,z"
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<Sicp>
I can't have it hard-coded like that
<Sicp>
I actually do have it hard-coded since my cases are based on what the input is going to be
<Sicp>
yea, sorry
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<Sicp>
so do you have an idea about doing what I'm asking for in a case? having it look for sequence of characters inside the "when"?
<Sicp>
when this followed by that followed by that
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<Sicp>
god that sounds stupid to do.....but still, any idea?
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<platzhirsch>
lost+found, can't find my instance variables inside a block
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<unholycrab>
can anyone point me to a guide on how to install gems? how to troubleshoot problems installing gems?
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<unholycrab>
im getting a simple message "Killed" when trying to install a gem
<platzhirsch>
urghs
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<unholycrab>
a verbose option, or something?
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<platzhirsch>
unholycrab: yes, try --verbose
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<unholycrab>
ha. thanks
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<rhys>
I have a dictionary that I'm passing to a HTTP library as a HTTP parameter. It has a key thats like 'vyatta-specification' and ruby doesn't seem to like the '-' in a keyname. Any idea?
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<unholycrab>
hmm, perhaps my service provider is killing the install
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<rhys>
and i just discovered theres a stack overflow on this already
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<platzhirsch>
rhys: well probably this is about symbols, variables and illegal characters
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<rhys>
yup. "ruby hash with dash in key" returned something
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<rhys>
is there something special about hashes that only use symbols as keys?
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<platzhirsch>
ok
<platzhirsch>
net split party
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<Xeago__>
platzhirsch: freenode is currently under DDOS, services just came back up
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<Hanmac>
platzhirsch: you know the sentence "split and conquer" ? ;P
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<platzhirsch>
Xeago__: ouch
<MrZYX>
rhys: (in hope your last question didn't get answered in the other side of the split) no, but to have a dash in a symbol you need to quote it: :'foo-bar', so ruby can tell the difference from :foo.-(bar) (calling the #- method)
<platzhirsch>
Hanmac: not yet :D
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<rhys>
MrZYX, yeah, thats what i found. i just converted them all to the old syntax? so it looks the same.
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<Sicp>
great advice philcrissman :)
<platzhirsch>
has anyone read "Wellgrounded Rubyist"?
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<rhys>
so $var is global but var is local
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<apeiros>
yes rhys
<banisterfiend>
platzhirsch: nah but im sure it's good
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<xXxRosexXx>
What does sin(20*180/M_PI); actually help with in a pixel plotting C++ program?.
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xXxRosexXx, It is converting 20 degrees into radians.
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