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<digitalcake> yeah the key is private and should not be placed with the code.
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<digitalcake> just not sure it there also a standar way most people do that so it does not make it too difficult for others to pick up and run with it.
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<joshu> that's something i'm using in a ruby script tea simple
<joshu> *very
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<joshu> just add require 'dotenv', add Dotenv.load to your code and then create .env file with one entry per line like SECRET_KEY=1234
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<joshu> then when you need to access it in your code do ENV[''SECRET_KEY']
<zphobic> joshu: Well that's damned handy!
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<joshu> zphobic yeah
<joshu> makes it private cause you can say commit your code and gitignore .env
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<joshu> i'm off night
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<otters> oh, that's cool
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<jkline__> digitalcake: coincidently I was looking at how right_aws (an api client) stores credentials for testing purposes https://github.com/rightscale/right_aws/tree/master/test
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<havenwood> Anyone know a nice API to get demographics info by zip code?
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<jkline__> I'm new at ruby. I'm trying to write unit tests for my gem. My .gemspec has a spec.test_files but rake test doesn't seem to run any tests. Do I have to tell Rake what my test files are somehow else?
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<Spooner> jkline__, It really depends on your test framework.
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<jkline__> I currently have class FooTest < Test::Unit::TestCase
<jkline__> I don' t know if that is a framework
<Spooner> It is TestUnit.
<jkline__> my rake file has require 'rake/testtast'
<jkline__> sounds like I need to read the TestUnit docs
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<jkline__> ah, so I need to put more in my Rakefile
<jkline__> are you suggesting also that I should switch to RSpec?
<Spooner> I didn't suggest that. I personally use rspec, but that is just me ;)
<jkline__> I don't know enough yet to have a useful opinion on ruby testing frameworks
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<Spooner> Minitest is the other popular framework.
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<jkline__> interesting, it now runs my tests. One pases, one fails, like I expect. But then it says "rake aborted!" command failed with status(1) etc
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<jkline__> that seems also expected, but also it shows a stack trace
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<jkline__> I did not expect a stack trace with my test failure
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<Spooner> A find the most important part of a framework is the quality of the fail messages...
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<bnagy> so, anyone know watir?
<bnagy> trying to get sone find elements stuff efficient
<bnagy> and I am really bad at web :/
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<digitalcake> been trying to `load "some.rb"` to play with a module def but the out put keeps the same regardless
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<digitalcake> do module def get cached?
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<bnagy> not if you load them, only for require
<digitalcake> using load
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<bnagy> do you really mean `` though?
<digitalcake> and it returns => true each time
<digitalcake> no
<bnagy> ok good :)
<digitalcake> markup habbit
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<bnagy> have you eliminated retardedness?
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<bnagy> ie make sure you're saving, make sure you're editing the file you think you're editing?
<digitalcake> but yeah load returns true but if I puts something different I get what it was the first time regardless.
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<digitalcake> reloading irb works
<digitalcake> but just trying to load my file again does not
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<bnagy> how is the module being used?
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<bnagy> like, it won't be re-included into everything
<bnagy> I don't think, anyway
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<digitalcake> derp, just figured it out
<digitalcake> the main file "require" the other file that is getting edited. I guess I need to make sure I'm loading the edited file not just the main file
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<digitalcake> some reason I thought if I reloaded the main file it would reload all the files it requires
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<digitalcake> is there a way to forse that type of load
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<digitalcake> force*
<bnagy> uh.. it will
<bnagy> but it will only require
<digitalcake> hmm.
<arubin> What is the popular HTTP library these days?
<bnagy> which, as we just covered, will return true if it's loaded already
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<ariedler> arubin: Faraday still I think
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<digitalcake> why dont people just use Net::HTTP ?
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<digitalcake> I dont mean that in a you should know better
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<digitalcake> I mean that in a whats so much better about it.
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<digitalcake> I'm writing an API wrapper gem to use as a learning example and the gem I was following from github used Faraday but its just a basic rest api it was calling
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<digitalcake> would I be better off just using basic Net::HTTP?
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<ariedler> digitalcake: I think just cause of authentication plugins for Faraday really
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<ryan_turner> Hi, I have an object that represents a GTK+ window, and I'm trying to add a signal connect to a button so that when a button is pressed, a method on an instance of another class is called. The other class is being instantiated before the GTK window is, but I dont know the right way to pass the other class into the GTK window's class for it to call methods.
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<ryan_turner> I tried adding a parameter to the initialize method on the GTK window class, but it gave me an error about not being another GTK window
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<ryan_turner> getting the error "`initialize': not a Gtk::Window::Type" when adding a parameter to initialize to pass that instance
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<bnagy> ryan_turner: that all sounds pretty code dependant sorry
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<ryan_turner> Ok, hang on.
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<ryan_turner> Ok, here's the code bnagy https://github.com/ryanturner/ts480gtk
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<ryan_turner> So "test.rb" is the main file I've been executing
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<ryan_turner> In there, I have a variable "radiointerface"
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<ryan_turner> here in the GTK class I'm trying to access that variable https://github.com/ryanturner/ts480gtk/blob/master/interface.rb#L126
<ryan_turner> but of course that doesnt work.
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<ryan_turner> So, how do I get that variable into the GTK class so that I can use it? :)
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<bnagy> uh
<bnagy> you kind of need to get your design sorted
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<bnagy> I don't really want to read a bunch of gtk code, tbh :)
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<bnagy> you could, for example, make the radio interface an ivar of the window
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<ryan_turner> bnagy, I've never used GTK and I've never used Ruby :)
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<ryan_turner> I dont know the right way to organize this code
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<ryan_turner> I figured that what I was doing so far was OK.
<bnagy> just put attr_accessor: :radio_interface in the window class, and then window_instance.radio_interface = blah
<bnagy> then I think your code would work as is, possibly
<ryan_turner> Oh, duh.
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<bnagy> or you can initialize the window instance of your special class with a radio interface if you like, and assign the ivar at that point
<bnagy> that would look like def initialize radio_interface; super() # don't pass that arg to gtk; @radio_interface = radio_interface ... etc
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<ryan_turner> Hmm
<ryan_turner> I just tried the attr_accessor method, and it's freezing the GTK thread
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<bnagy> ok well I don't know about that, it depends how your radio thing behaves
<bnagy> you might need to make it nonblocking or something
<ryan_turner> Aha yeah
<ryan_turner> it's because the serial read is hanging.
<ryan_turner> Ok, I can sort that out. Important thing is that now I can use the radiointerface instance within the window class. Thanks!
<bnagy> I normally have a read thread that pumps a Queue
<ryan_turner> I dont know anything about that :(
<bnagy> well basically you need something to read your radio
<bnagy> so you either need select or a nonblocking read or a blocking read in a Thread
<ryan_turner> Yeah, I have a loop that's doing that
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<ryan_turner> Ok bnagy, here's another question...
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<ryan_turner> In a method on the GTK window object, how can I change a variable that's in test.rb?
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<bnagy> you already can
<ryan_turner> Trying to stop the thread_read thread so that it doesnt hang
<bnagy> if it's an ivar or whatever that's a reference to the object
<ryan_turner> Ok :)
<ryan_turner> wait but then why couldn't I access radiointerface before?
<bnagy> because it wasn't an ivar
<ryan_turner> Guess I dont know what ivar means
<bnagy> you can't "reach out" of your class, but you can mess with references to anything you've been given
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<bnagy> @instance_variable, it's just a variable that is specific to an instance of a class
<bnagy> sometimes called properties etc
<ryan_turner> Its just a variable sitting in test.rb
<ryan_turner> its not in a class
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<bnagy> well then it's not going to be in scope for you instance methods
<ryan_turner> Exactly
<bnagy> you have to make it visible to them somehow
<ryan_turner> yeah, how can I pass by reference?
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<bnagy> ruby virtually always does
<ryan_turner> ok
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<ryan_turner> so if I just add another attr_accessor and set it
<ryan_turner> then itll update the original var too? :/
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<bnagy> the "best" design imho is to explicitly give the instance everything it needs to do its job
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<bnagy> ideally in initialize
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<ryan_turner> Well, I can put this in the RadioInterface class instead
<bnagy> well it won't update the var per se, the the var in test.rb and the @ivar will both point at the same object
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<ryan_turner> bnagy, what Im trying to do is have a var that is in scope for both threads
<ryan_turner> specifically, a stop_thread var.
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<bnagy> two things that point at the same thing
<ryan_turner> On the read thread, each time it iterates over the loop it checks to see if the stop_thread is true
<ryan_turner> and if thats the case, it stops the read.
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<ryan_turner> I need to be able to set that variable from within either the RadioInterface class or the Interface gtk class.
<bnagy> we're going in circles
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<ryan_turner> (so that way when its issuing a command that depends on getting a response from serial port, the read loop doesn't accidentally get it first and leave the other thread hanging)
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<buzzybron> i'm looking to at rubyinstaller.org to dl a version, but what's p? at the end of each version? pxxx
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<epitron> patch level
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<buzzybron> epitron : thnaks
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<darkapex> /quit
<darkapex> oops I hate that
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<seoaqua> guys, i got this, Bundler is not compatible with Rubygems 2.0. Please upgrade to Bundler 1.3 or higher. but i have bundler 1.3.5
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<PaulePanter> Are any parser gem experts here?
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<PaulePanter> Any idea about https://github.com/whitequark/parser/issues/57 ?
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<bnagy> PaulePanter: head over to #ruby-lang, whitequark is usually there
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<PaulePanter> bnagy: Thanks.
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<talktokets> Hi
<talktokets> Can I call one method from inside another method in ruby ?
<talktokets> please help?
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<buzzybron> talktokets : yeah sure
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<talktokets> So I have defined two methods inside one class
<talktokets> and in that also
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<talktokets> I am providing parameters to both the functions
<havenwood> talktokets: Post a gist of the code?
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<talktokets> yeah sure. I will just give you the page
<havenwood> seoaqua: Update rubygems first: gem update --system
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<seoaqua> havenwood, thanks but its updated already
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<talktokets> Here is the code for that
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<havenwood> seoaqua: Ah, already at 2.0.3? Does updating bundler fail?
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<talktokets> havenwood: ^ ^
<havenwood> talktokets: Can't view the paste, they block my browser. >.>
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<talktokets> ahhhhh
<talktokets> ok trying smething else
<talktokets> gimme 2 mins
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<talktokets> can you try this : http://goo.gl/q5V0r
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<havenwood> talktokets: They are blocking me with javascript. Don't like that I block their ads.
<talktokets> JS enabled ? on browser ?
<havenwood> talktokets: "Please support us by at least allowing ads when viewing our website - that is all we ask! Your code. Your site. Use it! http://paste.org"
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<havenwood> talktokets: So you are trying to call another method? Is `assign_ad_source(custom_ad_source)` the one that is throwing an error?
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<havenwood> talktokets: What's the error?
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<seoaqua> havenwood, gem 2.0.3, ruby 2.0.0p0
<havenwood> seoaqua: Updated bundler?: gem update bundler
<seoaqua> havenwood, bundler 1.3.5, i think update is no problem
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<havenwood> seoaqua: Wierd!
<maloik_> there's a newer ruby out as well btw, make sure to get that :-)
<maloik_> some bugs were removed
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<havenwood> seoaqua: Might try asking in #bundler if you can't figure it out.
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<pagios_> hello , when trying to run ntpdate from ruby i get: ntpdate[1994]: no servers can be used, exiting if executed from command line it works fine, please note that i am setting up the ip configuration in ruby few lines before launcing the ntpdate command any idea?
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<bnagy> sounds like an issue reading ntp config files or something
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<pagios_> hmm ok let me hardcode that
<bnagy> so running ntpdate and then doing irb and `ntpdate` give different results?
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<pagios_> i didnt try irb i am just launcgin ntpdate using the ``
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<bnagy> I'm saying that from the same shell, running the command then running it inside irb should give the same result
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<Nom-> Anyone know how I can trace down a version dependency problem in a gem tree? Something I'm pulling in is forcing an old version of 'builder' gem, which is resulting in several other gems going to very old versions...
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<pagios_> still not working, ntpdate[1994]: no servers can be used
<pagios_> i dont know which parameter i should add to ntpdate for it to work in ``
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<Nom-> bah it was the ci_reporter gem.. never mind... now how the heck to get integrate into my CI without that ;(
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<bnagy> pagios_: to confirm (again) do you get different results from a shell prompt running the exact same command in shell and in `` inside irb?
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<bnagy> btw on OSX for example you need to give it some servers on the commandline and tell it not to try and set the clock
<bnagy> unless you're running as root
<bnagy> eg for me it would be ntpdate -q -s time.asia.apple.com
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<bnagy> which gives me identical results inside `` in irb
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<Nom-> Ok, it's not that... so i've got a dependency somewhere which is putting a require on activesupport=1.4.0 causing a whole dependency chain to screw up... any ideas on how I can find out what it is?
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<bnagy> grep?
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<seoaqua> havenwood, thanks
<Nom-> I'm trying that, but i'm not finding the explicit requirement anywhere ... yet at least
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<pagios_> bnagy: works fine with the -s thanks
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<bnagy> I'm just going to re-ask every few hours :P - Anyone know about selectors in Watir ( or celerity, which uses the same API )?
<bnagy> browser.links.select {|l| l.xpath =~ /h3\/a$/ }.map(&:href)
<bnagy> that's the line I'm hoping can be improved
<bnagy> using a regex for an xpath search seems dumb
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<honeybunnyx> hi
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<honeybunnyx> is any1 online????
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<nightfly> just ask your question
<nightfly> heh, already left
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<buzzybron> hi i downloaded a ruby-[ver#]-mswin32.zip, from http://www.garbagecollect.jp/ruby/mswin32/en/download/release.html
<buzzybron> what do i do with the zip file? to install ruby?
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<bnagy> I wouldn't do that
<buzzybron> bnagy?
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<bnagy> some random .zip from some random site
<buzzybron> bnagy : meaning? i thought these are win32 installers? or do i need to compile them?
<buzzybron> ah....
<bnagy> there is the RubyInstaller, which is official
<bnagy> or, for windows, imho JRuby might be a better choice
<buzzybron> they don't have a version old enough which i require
<bnagy> you deliberately want an old version?
<buzzybron> yes
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<canton7> how old?
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<buzzybron> 1.8.6 patch lev 0...
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<canton7> rubyinstallers goes down to p26... almost
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<buzzybron> ah yea, just saw tht
<buzzybron> think i'd give that a shot
<buzzybron> i wonder if the patch differs much within a version
<canton7> feature-wise? hardly
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<buzzybron> installing! fingers crossed
<bnagy> anything that needs a ruby that old is unlikely to be a good idea
<bnagy> 1.8.6 is 5 years old or something crazy
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<canton7> agreed. I'm assuming this is some crazy legacy ap which needs to be spun up on a once-off basis, or something
<canton7> s/ap/app
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<buzzybron> yeap it is... very badly maintained
<buzzybron> or... lack of it
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<mikewintermute> why does 'a' not get changed here: a = [ "a", "b", "c", "d" ]
<mikewintermute> print a.each_index { |x| a[x] + "!" }# get ["a", "b", "c", "d"] # expected ["a!", "b!", "c!", "d!"]
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<hoelzro> mikewintermute: because a[x] + '!' doesn't alter a[x]
<hoelzro> >> a = 'foo'; a + '!' ; puts a
<eval-in> hoelzro => foo ... (http://eval.in/31749)
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<mikewintermute> so a is locally scoped?
<mikewintermute> (inside the block)
<hoelzro> yes
<hoelzro> well, no
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<hoelzro> not in this case
<bnagy> yeah no :)
<hoelzro> sorry,
<hoelzro> my mind was elsewhere =/
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<hoelzro> mikewintermute: try a[x] = a[x] + '!'
<bnagy> >> a=["a"];a.each_index {|i| a[i] << '!'}
<eval-in> bnagy => ["a!"] (http://eval.in/31750)
<bnagy> but in general, try not to modify collections when you're iterating using each
<bnagy> it freaks people out
* hoelzro prefers map
<bnagy> ^^
<mikewintermute> yeah - was just playing around trying to understand scoping rules
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<canton7> mikewintermute, it's not so much scoping, as the fact that + doesn't mutate strings, rather create a new string
<canton7> so you're saying "create a new string with contents a[x] + '!', then throw it away"
<canton7> had you used << instead of +, it would have mutated a[x]
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<mikewintermute> canton7: aha, starting to see daylight
<canton7> a[x] = a[x] + '!' or a[x] += '!' would have had the same visible effect (the difference being that this creates a new string, then assignes that back to a[x])
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<canton7> compare a = "foo"; b = a; a += " bar"; vs a = "foo"; b = a; a << " bar"
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<mikewintermute> canton7: at what stage does the new string get created in a[x] = a[x] + '!'?
<canton7> (be careful with strings and << for this reason - e.g. if you pass a variabel containing a string as an argument to a function, then mutate it within that function, it's also mutated in the caller's scope)
<canton7> mikewintermute, when "a[x] + '!'" gets evaluated, that creates a new string
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<mikewintermute> so << mutates the string in the caller's scope?
<canton7> more precisely, "a[z] + '!'" is better written a[z].+('!'), where '+' is a method which takes a string, and returns a string
<canton7> mikewintermute, it mutates the string object. strings are passed by value
<canton7> sorry, by reference
<canton7> (all objects are passed by reference in ruby, but some (like numbers) are immutable, so it doesn't appear as such
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<joshu> hi guys I'm struggling to pass an instance variable to a shell command using "-" operator to avoid using a temp file. Here's the code: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/349cb78553ce98689159
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<joshu> I've tried all kinds of ways to pass in the @attachment but I always get a null-byte error. I'll resort to a temp file if needed
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<bnagy> joshu: use popen imho
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<bnagy> assuming exiftool will read from argf
<bnagy> which, given that you're trying to pipe to it, looks like a good bet :)
<joshu> bnagy apparently exiftool will read from stdin. Would you do this over a temp file?
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<canton7> joshu, so the command you're executing is '<pdf file name> | exiftool -Title="Testing" -Author="FFM" -' ?
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<canton7> oops <pdf file contents>
<joshu> canton7 correct yeah
<canton7> and that works on raw command-line
* canton7 is scepticall
<canton7> sceptical
<joshu> yes if I do cat file.pdf | exiftool - Title="test' - Author="FFM" -
<joshu> works fine
<canton7> at the very least, I'd have expected the contents to be quoted and prefixed with 'echo'
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<canton7> yeah, running "contentsofmyfile | cat" is not going to go down well
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<canton7> 'echo "contentsofmyfile" | cat' maybe...
<bnagy> popen
<Veejay> Is there a way through some metaprogramming karate to turn the name of a constant to the equivalent string?
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<joshu> canton7 yeah so I don't have cat in my ruby cmd as I'm already passing the contents
<canton7> but yeah, opoen / popen3
<Veejay> Like Foo::BLAH => "BLAH"
<bnagy> Veejay: #to_s but it's not karate
<canton7> joshu, you're not getting the difference here - you're asking the process to execute the *command* called *<contents of pdf file>*, the pipe that output to exiftool
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<canton7> no wonder it's not happy
<Veejay> bnagy: Will it turn the value of the constant to a string or the name of the constant?
<Veejay> Cause I need the name of the constant
<Veejay> Just try it am I right?
<Veejay> :D
<bnagy> >> Class.to_s
<eval-in> bnagy => "Class" (http://eval.in/31751)
<Veejay> Yeah it turns the value to a string
<Veejay> That's not what I need
<joshu> canton7 ok I see. So even if I replicate the command I use on the command line in ruby it will not work unless I either a) use popen or b) use a temp file?
<bnagy> Veejay: you can look up constants in a namespace in a few ways
<canton7> joshu, if you used ruby to execute "cat tempfile | exiftool" that'd be fine. but you're not
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<canton7> you're using ruby to execute "<effectively random junk> | exiftool" - which won't work on the command-line *or* in ruby. you might as well be asking why trying to execute "fskldjfhsdlkfhlskd | exiftool" fails badly
<canton7> joshu, as I've said, you can try horrible stuff to do with quoting the contents of the pdf file, and using echo to get them onto stdout, then piping them - or using popen which is much nicer and by far the best solution
<Veejay> bnagy: Maybe I'll do something like ClassName.constants.detect {|c| ClassName.const_get(c) == value}.to_s
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<bnagy> Veejay: if you already have the value it seems a little pointless, though. :P
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<Veejay> No it doesn't
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<joshu> canton7 I'll avoid the "horrible stuff" and look at popen. thanks canton7 and bnagy
<Veejay> I have the value and I want the string representation of the constant
<bnagy> or you want the constant name that has a specific value?
<bnagy> ok
<bnagy> yeah the select const_get
<Veejay> To not have to create the messages
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<ij> Is there another way of adding a singleton method and using a local variable in scope in that method, besides "s = 'foo'; a = 1; singleton = class << s; self; end; singleton.define_method(:foo) do a * 2; end;" ?
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<Renich> Hey Rubyists!
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<Renich> I need help with a sample implementation of some pseudo-code... http://paste.fedoraproject.org/15191/82459913/
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<Renich> any help is highly appreciated
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<bnagy> what's the issue?
<bnagy> if that \0 is supposed to be a null byte then you don't want single quotes btw
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<Renich> bnagy: yes, it is supposed to go there
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<Renich> bnagy: oh
<Renich> well, the digests differ
<Renich> bnagy: let me try double quotes
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<bnagy> >> '\0'.bytesize
<eval-in> bnagy => 2 (http://eval.in/31754)
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<Renich> bnagy: hah! that was it!
<canton7> nice spot
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<Renich> bnagy: man, I've been hitting my head to the keyboard for 2 or 3 hours now
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<Renich> bnagy: thanks!
<bnagy> no worries
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<joshu> if I just use the following when I "test" my ruby script manually require "letter_opener"
<joshu> Mail.defaults do
<joshu> delivery_method LetterOpener::DeliveryMethod, :location => File.expand_path('../../tmp/letter_opener', __FILE__)
<joshu> end
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<joshu> how would I turn this on and off. Commenting and uncommenting works, but maybe there's a better way.
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<joshu> I have a test group in my gem file with gem 'letter_opener' but not sure how to deal with the block of code above
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<apeiros> `TEST=1 ruby yourexe`
<apeiros> then: if ENV['TEST'] == '1' then …
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<joshu> hi apeiros and that's acceptable. no need for optparse?
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<apeiros> what's acceptable or not is your decision…
<joshu> apeiros sure I'm asking as your ruby experience is >>> than mine ;)
<apeiros> it's technically what rails does too
<apeiros> it reads a RAILS_ENV env variable
<apeiros> well, explicitly passed argument > variable
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<joshu> ok not familiar with rails. What about using the rack environment like so: ENV['RACK_ENV'] == 'test'
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<apeiros> sure. if you have a way to set that.
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<joshu> hmm so I couldn't do what you did but instead `RACK_ENV=test ruby script.rb`
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<apeiros> if it is in ENV, then yes, you can set it like that
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<joshu> apeiros ah ok I think I understand, so I would have to specify RACK_ENV=test in my .env file as well as running ruby script.rb in the terminal has no environment setting?
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<joshu> apeiros I'm looking at opt parse. You know how you helped me with tiff2pdf and that it didn't offer a stdin "-" option. How would I use opt parse for my own script to allow specifying a file or stdin using "-"
<joshu> apeiros can't find an example online
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<apeiros> well, don't need optparse for that
<apeiros> optparse is for -f --foobar style options
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<apeiros> those without a flag end up in ARGV anyway
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<apeiros> so: input = ARGV[0] == '-' ? $stdin : File.open(ARGV[0])
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<joshu> apeiros cool thanks
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<apeiros> not sure whether ARGF deals with - too
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<apeiros> you can also go another way - some apps accept the file arg optionally. none given == stdin
<apeiros> in that case you can use ARGF instead of $stdin
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<apeiros> (ARGF first treats all values in ARGV as filenames and reads from then, and at the end from $stdin)
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<joshu> apeiros ok will try that thanks
<apeiros> note that Kernel#gets works off of ARGF (most people think $stdin and then are surprised when they start passing arguments…)
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<joshu> apeiros I've finished off my script that you saw bits and pieces of
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<Quadlex> Ugh
<Quadlex> I think I screwed up my "Master"
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<Quadlex> So I want to branch from an earlier commit so I can release a new version with non-experiental features
<Quadlex> But keep master as it is
<Quadlex> And then it's going ot be a mess when I merge later
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<Quadlex> pandawarrior: Oh, that's fine... It's just when I merge again
<Quadlex> Also there are a couple of commits I want to cherrypick
<pandawarrior> ah right
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<workmad3> Quadlex: just make sure you merge, rather than rebase
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<pandawarrior> workmad3: wouldn't you rebase interactive?
<Quadlex> workmad3: rebase would erase history?
<workmad3> rebase would change history
<workmad3> and the history for the master is already pushed, so no rebasing master onto another branch at an earlier merge-point
<workmad3> s/branch-point
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<Quadlex> Ah, right
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<Quadlex> Every time I think I understand git I realizeI don't
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<pandawarrior> Quadlex: agree with that :)
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<workmad3> Quadlex: basically, rebasing master onto the branch as a 'merge' would mean that your master is rolled back to the commit you branched at, then all the commits since then are recommited onto the branch
<workmad3> Quadlex: which would give you a nice consistent history... but would mean that your entire history would change, and you'd get 'your push is not a fast-forward' crap when trying to then push again :)
<Quadlex> Ahh, right
<workmad3> rebasing is nice for short-lived branches, but it's painful for long-lived branches
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<workmad3> I've had some great times in the past where I've had to resolve conflicts in a file half a dozen times too, because a rebase does each commit successively, while a simple merge would have been easier and cleaner because then it would have been at most one conflict
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<Quadlex> Nasty stuff
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<workmad3> yeah :)
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<BeegPeeg00> Hi, is anyone around? Got a quick question
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<Spooner> BeegPeeg00, Ask; don't ask to ask ;)
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<BeegPeeg00> I would like a recommended series of steps to create a simple rails app that generates and validates cheques with a sender, recipient, date and amount, with the necessary validations, and the ability to sort through the index page by sender or recipient
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<Spooner> BeegPeeg00, Ask in #rubyonrails - this is a general #ruby channel.
<BeegPeeg00> righto
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<sandstrom> Is there any difference between `module Foo; module Bar` and `module Foo::Bar`?
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<DaniG2k> guys how can i check each character of a string?
<DaniG2k> I'm trying with "string".each
<DaniG2k> but doesnt seem to work
<hoelzro> DaniG2k: each_char?
<DaniG2k> aah ok
<DaniG2k> thanks :)
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<canton7> DaniG2k, hint: if you're after something like that, google for "Ruby <classname>" (e.g. "Ruby string"), hit up the first link, and ctrl-f / browse that
<DaniG2k> alright
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<canton7> those docs are pretty good
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<sweeper> hey folks, how would I pass -j8 to rvm's install options?
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<sweeper> oh, n/m, seems to be doing it automaically
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<Veejay> Can I insert linefeeds between the different elements of a case when branch
<canton7> sre
<Veejay> A la when A,\nB\nC, etc.
<canton7> *sure
<canton7> oh, like that
<Veejay> Yeah
<Veejay> I have loads of very long constants and it's getting messy
<canton7> so long as the first line isn't a complete statement in itself
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<joshu> anyone know how to use mail gem to forward an email. In other words I want to just change the To: header but keep the rest of the email unmodified
<canton7> basically, when ruby parses line-by-line, if the line it's parsing isn't complete when it reaches the end, it'll continue down onto the next line
<Veejay> I see
<canton7> adding a \ onto the end of the line is another way to get the parser to continue onto the next line
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<[m]adman> hi ppl.. i'm new to ruby..
<[m]adman> i dont even know if i have it installed/enabled.. how can i tell?
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<sandstrom> irb in the console
<BeegPeeg00> in terminal
<[m]adman> i justed installed IIS.. it had options and SDK stuff for Ruby..
<BeegPeeg00> irb
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<[m]adman> irb?
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<philcrissman> [m]adman: sounds like you're on windows. There usually aren't a lot of people on here who use windows for development, but you may want to check out http://railsinstaller.org/. I'm told it's one of the better ways to go about getting ruby/etc set up on rails.
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<philcrissman> even if you aren't intending to do rails, it will install ruby and other tools you need.
<[m]adman> i sure am
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<[m]adman> mind blown... rubyonrails isnt ruby?
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<JustinAiken> Rails is framework built on ruby, but not ruby itself
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<mikewintermute> why does this work: @adam = Person.new :id => 14
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<Hanmac> mikewintermute: because of black magic?
<hoelzro> mikewintermute: why shouldn't it?
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<mikewintermute> but this complains about a syntax error: @adam = Person.new ( :id => 14 }
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<hoelzro> I think Ruby doesn't care for space before (
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<JustinAiken> also, is that a } to close a ( ??
<ChristianS> space between method name and ( is not allowed iirc
<mikewintermute> sorry: @adam = Person.new {:id => 14}
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<mikewintermute> (fat fingers)
<Hanmac> mikewintermute: because it thinks you want to use a block
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<mikewintermute> so to pass in multiple parameters I'd do: @adam = Person.new :id => 14, :name => 'Adam'
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<mikewintermute> hmm - yes, that works.
<mikewintermute> can you add parentheses somehow to make it clearer?
<JustinAiken> @adam = Person.new({:id => 14, :name => 'Adam'})
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<MrZYX> and Person.new(:id => 14, :name => 'Adam') works too
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<MrZYX> And while we're at it: Person.new id: 14, name: 'Adam', Person.new(id: 14, name: 'Adam') and Person.new({id: 14, name: 'Adam'})
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<mikewintermute> cool, a bunch of ways. Out of interest why does this give me a syntax error (i.e. with the space after new): Person.new (:id => 14, :name => 'Adam')
<hoelzro> it probably has something to do with ambiguity
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<MrZYX> it's the same as Person.new((:id => 14, :name => 'Adam')) and (:id => 14, :name => 'Adam') is invalid syntax
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<mikewintermute> MrZYX: (:id => 14, :name => 'Adam') seems valid to me.
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<MrZYX> it's not
<MrZYX> >> (:id => 14, :name => 'Adam')
<eval-in> MrZYX => /tmp/execpad-d6e4099f623b/source-d6e4099f623b:2: syntax error, unexpected =>, expecting ')' ... (http://eval.in/31784)
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<MrZYX> because :id => 14, :name => 'Adam' alone is already invalid
<MrZYX> the implicit hash form only works in a method call
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<Hanmac> >> p(:id => 14, :name => 'Adam')
<eval-in> Hanmac => {:id=>14, :name=>"Adam"} ... (http://eval.in/31785)
<Hanmac> >> p (:id => 14, :name => 'Adam')
<eval-in> Hanmac => /tmp/execpad-b0d766a471b2/source-b0d766a471b2:2: syntax error, unexpected =>, expecting ')' ... (http://eval.in/31786)
<ChristianS> do you people here tend to write method calls with parentheses or without?
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<MrZYX> I tend to omit them
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<apeiros> ChristianS: depends
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<apeiros> not sure I'm actually following something which could be phrased as a rule…
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<mikewintermute> MrZYX: but this is valid, right? Person.new(:id => 14, :name => 'Adam')
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<MrZYX> yes
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* apeiros prefers Person.new(id: 14, name: 'Adam') for this
<apeiros> and I even got used to foo: :bar
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<MrZYX> ;D
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<apeiros> next to get used to: stabby lambda
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<hoelzro> booo
* hoelzro hates stabby lambda
<apeiros> -> { stab :hoelzro }
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<hoelzro> heh
<apeiros> what's the origin of your last name, btw.?
<MrZYX> well that form isn't too hard, but even ->(foo) { bar} was easier for me than foo: :bar
<hoelzro> German
<apeiros> Hölz!
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* apeiros has holz in his last name too
<hoelzro> German that was probably slaughtered when my ancestors immigrated =/
* MrZYX lastname is Haß
<MrZYX> just fun if you answer the telephone...
<apeiros> funky
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<mikewintermute> how do you pronounce the ß?
<MrZYX> sharp s
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<mikewintermute> and what's the name of the char?
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<MrZYX> no idea what the english name might be
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<MrZYX> sharp s apparently
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<MrZYX> which is basically the literal translation, we also call it sz
<hoelzro> well, the name is eszett
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<hoelzro> which is what 'sz' sounds like in German =)
<MrZYX> ^^
<hoelzro> er, I'm lecturing the wrong person =/
<MrZYX> :P
<MrZYX> I prefer to substitute it with ss though
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<aedorn> Someone needs to write a guide: Open Source Your Work Project That Nobody (but you) Can Actually Use. A how-to guide.
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<workmad3> aedorn: I'm not sure that needs a guide
<workmad3> aedorn: it seems pretty instinctive to a lot of people
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<apeiros> hence it needs a guide
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<apeiros> to further confuse the instinct
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<aedorn> Exactly. We must work under the assumption that common sense is fairly uncommon.
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<workmad3> aedorn: I always operate under that assumption
<apeiros> wtf… laptop is wet…
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<apeiros> so hot, even the laptop sweats
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<platzhirsch> I get WARN: Unresolved specs during Gem::Specification.reset: redis-namespace (>= 0)
<platzhirsch> any idea how to fix that?
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<workmad3> platzhirsch: hit your hard drive repeatedly with a hammer?
<platzhirsch> workmad3: I will try and let you know
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<grlpx> hello all, I think everyone agrees that every language is good to do things for a particular porpoise. For instance C is good for system programming, ASM for performances, FORTRAN for high level computing, Javascript for web pages, Java for server side stuff, PHP the same, Bash for scripting etc etc. Can you please give me an example where Ruby (or phyton) can be useful to a practical programmer?
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<hoelzro> grlpx: I prefer Perl/Ruby/Python over Bash for scripting
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<grlpx> hoelzro: like how?
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<hoelzro> my rule of thumb is that if it's worth saving to a file, it's worth using Perl/Python/Ruby
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<hoelzro> I often use Perl instead of Bash if I have to perform non-trivial manipulations as well
<ChristianS> grlpx: all of the above, except probably for client-side web scripting
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<wmoxam> grlpx: Ruby is most often used for scripting as well as server software (particularily web software)
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<banister_> but coffeescript is pretty damn similar to ruby, so you can get your ruby-fix on the client these days too ;)
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<wmoxam> grlpx: Two of the more popular uses of Ruby are Ruby on Rails (server side web software) and Chef (server configuration management)
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<aedorn> I use Ruby to keep my socks organized.
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<aedorn> Actually... Ruby is quite an amazing prototyping language. It's quite quick to build a proof of concept for just about anything and then code it out in a language that's better suited for it. I know I'm late to this whole question, but I felt compelled to say at least that.
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<dankest> Uh
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<dankest> Yes?
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<epochwolf> dankest: Uh, yes to waht?
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<ericwood> wat
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<dankest> aedorn
<ericwood> that's not a word
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<aedorn> Nope, it's a person. Or, more correctly, a pseudonym.
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<ericwood> whoa
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<epochwolf> I think ruby is good enough to be more than just prototyping.
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<ericwood> I like it for everything
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<terrellt> ericwood: o.o Well..yeah..
<ericwood> yeah
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<harrymoreno> good morning
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<terrellt> Any opinions on best lambda syntax? -> {} or lambda{}
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<apeiros_> terrellt: both are fine. use whatever you like best.
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<lucianosousa> terrellt: I chose lambda {}. python's default -> 'explicit is better than implicit'
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<ryannielson> Anyone have a good suggestion for a pure Ruby Markdown parser? I'd rather not have to install something on my server, and it would be harder to run on Heroku if it required something native.
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<seejohnrun> Redcarpet
* apeiros_ misses Hash#+
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<apeiros_> redcarpet has native code, no'
<apeiros_> ?
<apeiros_> ryannielson: maruku
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<ryannielson> seejohnrun
<ryannielson> ;
<ryannielson> seejohnrun: Ya, Redcarpet is native.
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<seejohnrun> ryannielson: it runs on heroku just fine
<seejohnrun> ryannielson: sorry :(
<seejohnrun> seejohnrun: definitely has a native dep
<seejohnrun> ryannielson: *
<ryannielson> apeiros: Ya, I'll check that one out. Thanks.
<epitron> that would be a good thing to include in every gem's gemspec
<ryannielson> seejohnrun: Does it run fine on heroku? I just figured it wouldn't because I've had issues with other gems with native dependencies.
<epitron> gemspec with C-library dependencies, and compiler dependencies
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<ryannielson> epitron: Ya, that's a good suggestion.
* epitron watches as zenspider breaks all the gems again
<epitron> NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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<aedorn> hmm.. use Ruby to create a ton of shell scripts, or rewrite a gigantic Python program? The choices are between "this will suck" and "this will suck". I need a quarter.
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<atmosx> aloha
<aedorn> bonjour
<atmosx> aedorn: I don't get why, what exactly you will write with py that you can't write with rb?
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<C0deMaver1ck> also, you're in #ruby so we're going to say ruby
<aedorn> atmosx: It's in Python now. I would rewrite it in Ruby so I don't have to create the shell scripts this Python program calls. Or, I would automate the building of the shell scripts.
<atmosx> ruby
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<aedorn> It'll be Ruby either way, and it will suck either way. Hence the need for a quarter!
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<atmosx> why will it suck?
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<aedorn> There's just so much to do with either and a real need for it to be done yesterday. It's just not maintainable in the current form - something needs to give. It's a great tool for the original developers, but it needs stream lining to really be useful for others.
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<atmosx> anyone have an experience with DRb?
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<aedorn> Ooh, they moved it to GitHub. Neat.
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<bricker`work> Can someone explain to me what "binary mode" is on an IO object? I see this http://ruby-doc.org/core-2.0/IO.html#method-i-binmode but I'm wondering if there's more to it than just those three bullet points, and what the purpose of going into binary mode is.
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<apeiros_> bricker`work: it's windows related
<apeiros_> windows has text- and binary-mode
<apeiros_> IMO binary would be a sane default. fuck anybody who uses text-editors which can only deal with \r\n
<bricker`work> apeiros_: So if I know a piece of code will only ever run on *nix, I shouldn't have to worry about it? This is where I came across it by the way: https://github.com/thoughtbot/paperclip/blob/master/lib/paperclip/thumbnail.rb#L68
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<atmosx> Developers should be aware of when potentially malicious data (user-input) is passed to Logger, and manually escape the untrusted data <-- from Ruby Logger doc page. But what sort of a data could a malicious user pass to a logger and create issues since logger just dumps data into a (in my case) txt file (or I guess syslog)?
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<bricker`work> And while we're looking at that, what is the purpose of setting "src = @file" in that context?
<apeiros_> bricker`work: correct, on *nix binary- and textmode should have no influence
<apeiros_> though, it might be that binary mode might (since 1.9) set encoding to binary too
<bricker`work> I see
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<aedorn> bricker`work: Specifically - The mode string can also include the letter 'b' either as a last character or as a character between the characters in any of the two-character strings described above. This is strictly for compatibility with C89 and has no effect; the 'b' is ignored on all POSIX conforming systems, including Linux. (Other systems may treat text files and binary files differently, and adding the
<aedorn> 'b' may be a good idea if you do I/O to a binary file and expect that your program may be ported to non-UNIX environments.) As taken from fopen man page
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<aedorn> While that's with fopen() and family, the main point is the same.
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<aedorn> And now I shall go find lunch. Like a hunter or scavenger. I think there's a tree with some berries right outside!
<bricker`work> thanks!
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<bricker`work> Why would open("http://...") be returning a StringIO?
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<bricker`work> vs. a Tempfile
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<epitron> aedorn: actually, you can use the b flag in ruby to ignore file encoding as well... (unicode errors? USE THE B :)
<bricker`work> Oh, this is interesting http://stackoverflow.com/a/694413/885036
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<epitron> ugh, open-uri is such a nasty library
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<epitron> never look at the code :)
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<bricker`work> epitron: How would you grabbing an image via HTTP and writing it to a file?
<bricker`work> recommend*
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<aedorn> I don't think those berries were... good. Oh well, live and learn. Or live and get poisoned and die. Whatever!
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<epitron> bricker`work: if that's all you want to do, open-uri is fine
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<epitron> just don't look at its code
<epitron> and make sure your network never disconnects :)
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<bricker`work> epitron: The problem is that I need the response to be a file, because later I'm running some File methods on it (like #path)
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<bricker`work> when I try using Tempfile, I get "closed stream" errors all over the place.
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<epitron> hah
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<epitron> well, you have a lot of options
<epitron> the "simplest" one is calling wget :)
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<epitron> there's ruby's internal net/http library
<epitron> there's some eventmachine things
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<bricker`work> epitron: can I tell net/http to make a File from the response, like open-uri does automatically?
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<epitron> can't recall
<epitron> it probably returns an IO object
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<epitron> you can do a strem_copy of that to a file
<epitron> *stream
<bricker`work> It returns a String
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<epitron> oops, copy_stream
<epitron> does it?
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<epitron> that's lame
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<epitron> this looks decent: https://github.com/geemus/excon
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<bricker`work> I'm trying to use something built-in, this is a very simple task - fetch image, write to file.
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<epitron> oh, i'm well aware of how simple it *should* be :)
<bricker`work> I guess I could set open-uri's limit for StringIO to 0 ... I'm sure that would come with some other problems though
<epitron> let's go up a level
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<epitron> what are you doing with these downloads?
<bricker`work> epitron: processing them and then saving them to disk
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<bricker`work> they're images
<epitron> so you're thumbnailing them?
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<bricker`work> yes but not only that
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<epitron> wget sounds fine to me :)
<bricker`work> Using Tempfile works, it's just during tests I get "IOError: closed stream"
<epitron> open-uri probably works fine too
<bricker`work> and I don't know why
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<epitron> tempfile doesn't create permanent files
<epitron> once the tempfile object is removed, the file disappears
<bricker`work> that's fine
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<bricker`work> epitron: nice, thanks
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<jenmartinez> if I am on 10.6 OSX, would I still be able to do all the ruby dev, including RoR or would this require I have to be on an updated OSX?
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<_nitti> I think Rails shipped with OS X on 10.4 or 10.5
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<jenmartinez> _nitti: I think so too, so I should be definately fine I think
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<xibalba> any recommendations on where/how to find entry level programming positions?
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<nightfly> xibalba: Go to $programming_langauge meetups and conferences
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<xibalba> good idea
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<ryan_turner> Ruby/GTK, I have a label that I want to capture when someone clicks on it... what signal would i use?
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<havenwood> nightfly: Try toprubyjobs.com or jobs.github.com maybe.
* nightfly wasn't the one asking
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<havenwood> nightfly: Oops!
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<havenwood> xibalba: http://jobs.37signals.com/
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<havenwood> xibalba: +1 meetups and conferences
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<havenwood> xibalba: Looking for remote or local work? Willing to relocate?
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<xibalba> havenwood, this is for my wife. she's learning ruby/rails and javascript right now and wants to get a dev. career in about 4-5 months. i was telling her she should look around to see what the job market has to offer. I'll pass along that 37signals link to her. thanks
<xibalba> also guessing remote isn't the best for starters
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<havenwood> xibalba: toprubyjobs.com or jobs.github.com are other resources
<havenwood> xibalba: remote pairing isn't bad these days
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<havenwood> xibalba: doable!
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<xibalba> even for beginers you think?
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<xibalba> We're located in San Diego
<havenwood> xibalba: I'm in LA.
<xibalba> brb
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<xibalba> back
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<sam113101> I'm going to write a game server, should I use select() myself or should I use something like EventMachine?
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<nightfly> EventMachine
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<xibalba> sam113101, check out websocketsRails. My buddy has told me some other game companies are using that in their infrastructure.
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<sam113101> is eventmachine multithreaded?
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<citizensinspace> Hi, does anyone have experience with elasticsearch? I'm trying to limit the number of results per type. (Ex: show 10 artists and 10 albums instead of 20 at random)
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<lewis> do you guys know good ressources about ruby and twitter api
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<aedornm> gah... I should replace systemd with systemrd ... because I have no idea how systemd works. If this were the matrix I would just load the knowledge into my brain
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