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<[WRD]Nakilon> => t = Time.now; (1..100500).inject(:*); Time.now - t
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<[WRD]Nakilon> > t = Time.now; (1..100500).inject(:*); Time.now - t
<[WRD]Nakilon> damn, how to command?
<[WRD]Nakilon> >> t = Time.now; (1..100500).inject(:*); Time.now - t
<eval-in> [WRD]Nakilon => (https://eval.in/37252)
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<[WRD]Nakilon> ..(
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<[WRD]Nakilon> >> t = Time.now; (1..10050).inject(:*); Time.now - t
<eval-in> [WRD]Nakilon => 0.127777458 (https://eval.in/37256)
<havenwood> [WRD]Nakilon: https://eval.in
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<FDj> what cache_store do you use in a test environment to prevent issues from finding stale records from a previous test run?
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<FDj> ah, found it... config.cache_store = :null_store
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<blarghmatey> Anyone in here who does contract work? If so what do you guys generally charge for an hourly rate? Region where you are located would be helpful too.
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<blarghmatey> I'm asking because I'm trying to get a feel for what to set my rate at for freelancing in my area (Boston, MA, USA)
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<fryguy> blarghmatey: freelancing rate depends on a whole lot more than just location
<fryguy> level of experience, clientel etc all matter.
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<fryguy> i work in boston, but don't freelance/consult. If I was doing consulting, I'd probably charge $125-175/hr
<blarghmatey> fryguy: Understood. I'm taking that into account as well. Just trying to get a feel for what I should use as my upper and lower bounds.
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<havenwood> also how long the contract is for, i lower rates if the relationship is maintained
<havenwood> and remote versus on-site
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<blarghmatey> havenwood: All good points. I'm planning on doing this on a remote basis, primarily in the evenings and some weekend work.
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<TJNII> Does Array #uniq require the array to be sorted?
<sevenseacat> nope.
<TJNII> Nifty. ty.
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<buzzybron1> i'm trying do a query with multiple tables, and i wld like to loop through the sql with a table_names array, how can i construct the sql string? i am using the pg gem without AR
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<TJNII> buzzybron1: I'm guessing you just need a query using a JOIN statement
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<nijan> Hello, I have very simple code snippet. I initialize an array as a class variable in a module, and then call the push method on it. However, I got a no method error. Here is the code. http://pastie.org/8130013
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<nijan> I get the error whenever I call addticket
<nijan> ticket = Ticket.new; ticket.addticket('ticket1')
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<buzzybron1> TJNII : i'm looping through a couple of tables with the same structure, not looking at union
<buzzybron1> i meant join
<zastern> I'm having a really weird issue. I'm writing a small script in ruby, and it worked fine for a while, but now all of the sudden returns an odd result. https://gist.github.com/zacharyalexstern/5972203 - the issue is that the url that ends up being generated is not interpolating the variables in the order I have them listed in the string, and I can't figure out why
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<zastern> e.g. #{apikey} is being appended to the end
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<kizzx2> zastern: your method call seems off
<kizzx2> def get_issues(apikey,startdate,enddate,projectid,status) <— apikey is the first parameter
<zastern> oh you know what
<zastern> i changed that
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<zastern> and forgot about it
<zastern> haha
<kizzx2> lol
<zastern> thanks fellas
<zastern> i think i got interrupted
<zastern> and had to walk away
<zastern> and then forgot
<zastern> and then two weeks alter
<zastern> REALLY forgot
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<zastern> boom fixed.
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<popl> nijan: I hope I have made it clear enough.
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<[narcan]> before i go too crazy here, how do I get a DateTime object into UTC ?
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<bnagy> they're not in any timezone
<bnagy> they're just a point in time
<kizzx2> maybe ActiveSupport::TimeWithZone
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<havenwood> utc should be DateTime.now.new_offset
<[narcan]> i'm talking ruby here
<[narcan]> i'm guessing ActiveSupport is rails
<[narcan]> hmm, where is new_offset in the documentation ?
<[narcan]> i've been starting at the docs for 15 mins and cant see it there
<zastern> Does ruby do any kind of caching of any sort? E.g. I was querying an api that retuns json. Then I changed to the xml endpoint but I still get json. When I put the URL in my browser that ruby is using, I get xml
<bnagy> havenwood: oh wow, first time I've seen that
<[narcan]> zastern: ruby the language doesnt, your framework might be
<zastern> [narcan]: no framework just raw ruby
<zastern> it's odd
<buzzybron1> it's a different url?
<zastern> yes.
<[narcan]> id' double check you're actually running the new version, put a debug line out for the url you're calling directly before it's called or something
<[narcan]> just to ensure your editor isnt playing tricks on you etc
<buzzybron1> yeap same here, that is the most likely prob
<bnagy> looks like new_offset is private in Date
<[narcan]> ugh, god dates are a mess in ruby :/
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<bnagy> yes, yes they are
<zastern> it's definitely xml
<zastern> according to cat
<zastern> im even having the file output the url its using
<zastern> i copy that to browser
<zastern> get xml
<bnagy> >> require 'date';DateTime.now.new_offset(0.5)
<eval-in> bnagy => #<DateTime: 2013-07-11T15:37:27+12:00 ((2456485j,13047s,9217621n),+43200s,2299161j)> (https://eval.in/37257)
<bnagy> lulz
<bnagy> so intuitive!
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<buzzybron1> is it a common prac in ruby for private methods to have an underscore prefix?
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<havenwood> nope
<[narcan]> is there a recommended gem or something i should be using to improve dates ?
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<[narcan]> everytime i go to do something with time / dates in ruby i always feel like i'm the first one whos needed to use em hah
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<Mars`> hey
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<havenwood> hi
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<Mars`> so many people joining and leaving and now one talking :/
<Mars`> no one*
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<sam113101> ;(
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<sevenseacat> guess we're all busy programmin'
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<sam113101> they see me codin'
<sam113101> they hatin'
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<Dekade> they trying to catch you writing ruby
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<sevenseacat> they wont catch me, i'm writing php
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<Dekade> ooh, thats evil
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<buzzybron1> whats the difference between str.downcase and str.downcase! ?
<sevenseacat> downcase! is in place.
<havenwood> buzzybron1: the latter modifies the reciever
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<Hanmac> buzzybron1: downcase! can return nil
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<ChristianS> buzzybron1: take care that neither downcase nor downcase! is appropriate for real-life (i.e. not just 7-bit ASCII) data
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<stormbytes> hello
<stormbytes> I'm trying to write a contact manager in ruby
<stormbytes> this would be a simple command line utility
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<stormbytes> i don't need any heavy dbms as I don't expect the file size to get very large
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<stormbytes> I would love to keep the data in json/bson (a-la-mongodb)
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<stormbytes> is there a flat-file 'database' gem that would help with CRUD and search?
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<Hanmac> stormbytes: you can try to look at http://www.ruby-doc.org/stdlib-2.0/libdoc/dbm/rdoc/DBM.html
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<stormbytes> thanks hanmac
<stormbytes> looks like DBM might be exactly the kind of thing i was looking for
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<stormbytes> initially i considered using MongoDB but I'm not thrilled about having another background process that in itself is enitrely overkill for my needs
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<nijan> Hello, I am creating a class attribute array in a module and then using push() on it, but I get a NoMethodError. Any clue? http://pastie.org/813063
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<stormbytes> hanmac have you used gdbm?
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<zooz> hey people
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<zooz> how do I print first and third item from a list?
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<apeiros> not much patience, this zooz guy…
<Giorgio> zooz: puts list[0]
<Giorgio> puts list[2]
<apeiros> he's gone
<Giorgio> oh
<Giorgio> :D
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<apeiros> hence my comment about his lacking patience ;-)
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<Giorgio> i was little distracted and dont see when he/she left
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<apeiros> 2min after asking the question ;-)
<apeiros> right before my comment
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<Giorgio> maybe he/shje got enlightenment
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<nijan> Hello, I am creating a class attribute array in a module and then using push() on it, but I get a NoMethodError. Any clue? http://pastie.org/813063
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<tobiasvl> Sorry, there is no pastie #813063 or it has been removed. Why not create a new pastie?
<nijan> Sorry.
<nijan> The commented line causes the error.
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<Hanmac> nijan: the @stack in line 2 and the @stack in line 4 are two different things
<nijan> Do you mind if I ask you why?
<Hanmac> nijan: in line 2 the @stack is a variable of the module itself, in line 4 the @stack is an variable of an instance of an class that includes the module or of an object that extends the module
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<nijan> so, can I refer to the module variable, or I should move @stack to be a class variable?
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<tobiasvl> you probably want it to be an instance variable of the instances of the class that includes the module?
<tobiasvl> (you shouldn't use class variables, use class instance variables instead)
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<nijan> but then I cannot refer to it in the module, because the variable doesn't exist at the time of the method definition
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<tobiasvl> module Test; def initialize; @var = []; end; end; class Test2; include Test; def test(var); @var = var; end; end
<tobiasvl> something like that?
<tobiasvl> what do you mean refer to it?
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<nijan> tobiasvl, so the problem is that I haven't defined @stack in initialize
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<raddy> Hello Everybody
<nijan> By including it into init it works. But I still don't get why, isn't the variable created if not in intialize?
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<raddy> I am getting No route matches error for specific projects in redmine
<raddy> Please assist me in resolving the issue
<tobiasvl> nijan: you need to understand what @var means. if it's in initialize, that method gets included by the class that includes the module, and the @var is created as an instance variable on the instance of the class
<tobiasvl> nijan: if you just have @var in the module itself, it's an instance variable in the module
<nijan> I see
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<nijan> Thanks, I didn't know that
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<raddy> I am getting No route matches error for specific projects in redmine
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<tobiasvl> raddy: check out #redmine maybe
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<raddy> tobiasvl : nobody there :(
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<Fuzai> Hi I did a gem update and it broke my application from starting. I'm not sure how to fix this http://pastebin.com/rdDvyUDN could someone look at this and tell me what to do here?
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<Olipro> if I have: do_something(val) { |x| 1 ; 2 }
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<Olipro> is there a keyword I can put in front of 1 so that the return value of the block would be 1 rather than 2
<kris> hi to all
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<Fuzai> Olipro, maybe return?
<Olipro> nope
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<Hanmac> Olipro: do you mean {|x| x ? 1 : 2}
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<kris> how to convert int to string
<Olipro> .to_s
<Hanmac> or "%d" % int
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<Olipro> hanmac: well, in this instance, let's say I don't care about x
<Olipro> so |_| if you like
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<Hanmac> Olipro so what about {next 1; 2 }
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<Olipro> ah, next
<Olipro> that is most probably it
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<Olipro> yep, that did the trick
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<kris> exit
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<linduxed> in bin/main_executable i do "#!/usr/bin/env ruby" and "require_relative '../lib/main_lib_file'" which has a lot of require's
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<linduxed> these require's don't work, i get LoadError
<linduxed> probably because they're not relative or something like that
<linduxed> is there a way to fix that without making all of them relative?
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<michael_mbp> How come one can do class Foo; def bar;end;end and Foo.undef_method :bar but calling undef_method on Foo's eigenclass fails?
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<alistar> Afternoon :) I have an array and I'm looking to create copies of this array, one for each of the elements in the array excluding the first each with a unique order like https://gist.github.com/alistar79/e160ae0cf3ece3b69ecb What's the best way to attack this?
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<bnagy> alistar: you probably want ary.permutation.each
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<alistar> cheers looking that up now :)
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<bnagy> or possibly combination(n)
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<apeiros> michael_mbp: why shouldn't it fail?
<bnagy> >> [1,2,3].combination(2).to_a
<eval-in> bnagy => [[1, 2], [1, 3], [2, 3]] (https://eval.in/37267)
<apeiros> you undefine an instance method, not a class method
<apeiros> for class methods, invoking undef_method on the singleton_class works fine.
<michael_mbp> ahh.
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<michael_mbp> got it
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<buzzybron1> i am using a pg gem and i was thinking if i could perform a rollback ?
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<alistar> bnagy: Looking at the docs that doesn't ensure each array order is unique and doesnt seem to work if i need one array of a set order per each element in the array
<rcedillor> a good book to learn ruby
<rcedillor> ?
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<alistar> unique as in no value is in the same position in any array
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<bnagy> alistar: I have no idea what docs you're reading or what you mean by unique
<alistar> ah sorry
<michael_mbp> got it/quit
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<bnagy> alistar: well, you can sort if you want
<alistar> those are the docs and what i need is if i have an array of 4 elements i need one in the given order then another 3 in a different order but in all the arrays the same value should never be in the same index as it is in another array
<bnagy> I have no idea what your use case is
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<bnagy> alistar: that's what combination(3) does for a 4 element array
<alistar> im trying to create in this case 4 syslog configs each one has the syslog servers listed in a unique order
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<alistar> https://gist.github.com/alistar79/e160ae0cf3ece3b69ecb Thats what each array would look like depending how many syslogservers i have
<alistar> i have given examples for 2, 3 and 4 syslog servers
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<alistar> then randomly servers use array 1 or array2 or array3 or array4 for their config
<bnagy> that's all covered with permutation and combination
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<alistar> but with permutation i see that index 2 in the returned arrays often has the same value?
<bnagy> although I don't know why you only have 4 entries for a 4 elem array
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<alistar> cos i dont want all permutations
<alistar> i want the permutations it returns where each element value is never the same
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<alistar> basically given the first array i want the other 3 as seen in the gist
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<bnagy> >> (0..3).map {|i|[1,2,3,4].rotate(i)}
<eval-in> bnagy => [[1, 2, 3, 4], [2, 3, 4, 1], [3, 4, 1, 2], [4, 1, 2, 3]] (https://eval.in/37268)
<bnagy> ?
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<alistar> bnagy: Perfect cheers!
<bnagy> no worries
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<bnagy> sorry I didn't work out what you wanted earlier.. 'm a little drunk
<bnagy> actually quite a bit drunk
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<sussman> We conjure the spirits of the computer with our spells.
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<Uranio> ^ I like it
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<Uranio> should be exist a special character like a facebook hand for say "I like it"
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<keyword1> hi guys I have a question I need generate a uuid but using some format or algorithm so I can know that this uuid is generate from my app, like if I apply some chode to the UUID it returns always 0
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<zastern> When I parse json in ruby, e.g. JSON.parse('some string containing json'), what is actually returned? A hash?
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<ericwood> yes
<ericwood> you then smoke said hash
<zastern> ericwood: if only
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<bnagy> keyword1: questions like that are why I love #ruby
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<keyword1> bnagy: jaja do you have the way?
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<bnagy> no, because it's a retarded question
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<keyword1> bnagy: really? why?
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<bnagy> basically you're a ticking time bomb until you do something stupid with cookies
<bnagy> and I don't want to be there
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<ericwood> booooom
<joey133> can anyone take a look at some code, i'm having an issue where my code works fine with ruby 1.8.7 but breaks on 1.9.3
<bnagy> keyword1: but, fwiw, google hmac
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<ericwood> joey133: can you give us the error message as well?
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<joey133> i keep getting
<keyword1> bnagy: I have to create thounsand of this uuid
<joey133> Its been 5 seconds im bored...
<joey133> ./sandbox.rb:30:in `block in monitor_changes': break from proc-closure (LocalJumpError)
<joey133> \
<joey133> from ./sandbox.rb:7:in `block in every_n_seconds'
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<keyword1> bnagy: so I need an algo like a cc
<joey133> ignore that last \
<joey133> sorry
<keyword1> bnagy: but seems taht you are really a ruby rock star jajajaja
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<ericwood> we are all rockstars
<ericwood> *guitar solo*
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<joey133> i've scoured the web looking for the problem
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<joey133> the most i've gotten is you can only use break if your inside an iterator
<joey133> for a proc
<ericwood> joey133: nothing jumps out at me, but I haven't used 1.8.7 in years
<joey133> and i am
<joey133> this is from an old cookbook im going through
<joey133> its pissing me off lol
<bnagy> it's a really clumsy way to approach the problem
<bnagy> I guess you're not on linux? otherwise use inotify
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<ericwood> I wish OS X had inotify
<ahawkins> does anyone know how marshal works internally? I have very simple objects, but I'm getting annoying cannot dump object with default proc errors.
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<bnagy> ericwood: there's a similar thing, but I forget the name fs-something
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<ericwood> ah yeah
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<bnagy> ahawkins: you can't Marshal procs
<Maior> if I'm switching to using an array as a hash value instead of a single string, should replacing `if attributes[:deb_init]` with `attributes.fetch(:deb_init, []).each do |init|` Just Work...? (modulo fiddling with the inside of the block)
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<ericwood> there's no *good* cross-platform way
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<ahawkins> bnagy: yes I know, but I don't have any (that I know of). I don't understand what data marshal is using to dump the stuff
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<joey133> sory about the tabs
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<joey133> i couldn't get it to keep it to 2
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<joey133> i've tried passing lambas and procs directly
<bnagy> ahawkins: it basically uses standard methods
<joey133> and using proc.call
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<joey133> but the same thing happens
<joey133> i've switched the break to a return
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<joey133> and i get a similar error
<ahawkins> bnagy: ya but what methods? I read the source for Marhsal.dump, but I don't understand the c source
<ericwood> Marshal is basically magic
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<bnagy> http://www.ruby-doc.org/core-2.0/Marshal.html is the best I can google atm
<ericwood> I tried to load a JRuby marshal dump with 1.9.3 once
<ericwood> it didn't work if you could imagine that
<bnagy> once it's in a format Marshal can understand then it just uses internal object types etc
<bnagy> it's just a serialisation format
<joey133> no one can take a stab at my situation?
<joey133> its not critical but its annoying as shit
<bnagy> joey133: rewrite it
<bnagy> it's retarded code
<joey133> not even my code
<joey133> came from Ruby Cookbook
<bnagy> ok well whoever wrote that was high
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<joey133> can you spot any problems tho
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<joey133> i know theres a lot of changes from 1.8 to 1.9
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<bnagy> it's probably a local jump error cause you're trying to break out of a thread in a block
<bnagy> what happens if you just s/break/false/
<realDAB> joey133: i only looked at it quickly but it strikes me as peculiar that block is being discarded (unless i'm just seeing it wrong)
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<bnagy> maybe return false
<bnagy> maybe I should just go to bed because that code is just stupid
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<joey133> ./sandbox.rb:30:in `block in monitor_changes': unexpected return (LocalJumpError)
<joey133> from ./sandbox.rb:7:in `block in every_n_seconds'
<joey133> thats replacing the break with return
<joey133> return false
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<joey133> like if the code at all didn't work thats fine, but it works fine on 1.8 and i dont know why
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<Hanmac> joey133: 1.8 dies last month, you will not get any help for that
<joey133> thats not what my problem is really
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<joey133> its that this code doesn't work is the actual problem
<joey133> its just weird that it works on 1.8
<joey133> and not 1.9
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<realDAB> whoops, ignore me
* realDAB shouldn't comment on stuff on the fly
<realDAB> bad realDAB
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<joey133> blah
<joey133> even forking
<joey133> gives unexpected break
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<joey133> fuk it
<joey133> moving on through this book
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<joey133> thanks
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<sysop2> hi
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<sysop2> "checking for webkit-1.0... yes. checking for main() in -lwebkit-1.0... no" what do I need to do to fix this? I can provide the mkaf.log if you want.
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<sysop2> I have tried doing gem installs of the various webkit gems and nothing seems to help.
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<heftig> check config.log
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<sysop2> ok thanks. brb
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<heftig> sysop2: also, ruby-gir_ffi provides webkit, too
<Hanmac> sysop2: install the libwebkit dev packages
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<sysop2> I think I have already install ed the libwebkit dev packages. so would I do gem install ruby-gir_ffi ?
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<heftig> sysop2: gir_ffi and gir_ffi-gtk
<sysop2> apt-get or gem install?
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<sysop2> I just did an apt-get install of girl_ffi
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<heftig> sysop2: no, do gem install
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<sysop2> did both will that matter?
<sysop2> should I remove the apt-get installed packages?
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<sysop2> btw still same error. very weird.
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<heftig> what error?
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<sysop2> "checking for webkit-1.0... yes. checking for main() in -lwebkit-1.0... no" that error
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<sysop2> it fails when I run ruby extconf.rb
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<sysop2> I am trying to get yamr running.
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<heftig> sysop2: yamr?
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<sysop2> ymar is a ruby yammer client
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<sysop2> yamr I meant
<sysop2> heftig,
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<heftig> sorry, i thought you wanted to develop with webkit
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<inspectrum> Is there any way to tell the ruby debugger to stop on breakpoints but not exceptions?
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<rgreen> hey does anyone here use the MySQL2 module?
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<fryguy> rgreen: probably, just ask the question that you want to ask
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<daniel__2> can anyone help me with this hopefully simple error? https://gist.github.com/danielstockton/5977222
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<daniel__2> must be a subtle problem with my use of .sample
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<realDAB> daniel__2: if you sample an array with a range as its only element, you'll get that range back
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<realDAB> daniel__2: and if you sample a range, you'll get that error
<realDAB> daniel__2: what's in sdate?
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<daniel__2> realDAB that was a mistake, its corrected now
<daniel__2> should be random_start
<daniel__2> but good point, im sampling an array with a range inside it
<daniel__2> silly me
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<rgreen> i have posted it to stack overflow here is a link to my question: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17599407/using-sql-update-with-ruby-and-mysql2
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<havenwood> Hmm, a Rantfile that is run with `rant`.
<havenwood> rgreen: I'd use the sequel gem, personally.
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<BlakeRG> how would i search a collection for a single record and determine if the record exists with the monogDB driver?
<havenwood> BlakeRG: With Ruby?
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<BlakeRG> havenwood: yes
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<BlakeRG> i can do something like: collection.find("id" => profile['id']).to_a
<BlakeRG> and check if one of the fields does not exist
<BlakeRG> but i don't think that makes sense
<BlakeRG> there's probably a better way right?
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<havenwood> Github without assets...
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<rcedillor> puts "hello world :)"
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<havenwood> >> "hello world :)"
<eval-in> havenwood => "hello world :)" (https://eval.in/37277)
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<havenwood> Oops, forgot I'd trigger eval-in. >.>
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<rgreen> how would I write html code to a file, since it contains characters like "&#<> which wont work, but if i escape these characters then my HTML code will be altered and wont work
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<havenwood> rgreen: What's the prob with writing those chars to file?
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<rgreen> well lets say that i just wanted to do puts "some html text"
<rgreen> puts will get stuck on those chars
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<Morrolan> >> puts "hello\" there"
<eval-in> Morrolan => hello" there ... (https://eval.in/37278)
<havenwood> >> puts %["&#<>]
<eval-in> havenwood => "&#<> ... (https://eval.in/37279)
<Morrolan> As part of a string literal you'd have to escape them.
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<Morrolan> (Or use single quotes)
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<havenwood> or =begin, or <<-END, or %[]
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<rgreen> i tried single quotes i worked for some cases but not all
<Morrolan> havenwood: Huh, %[] is nice. :o
<fryguy> or %q stuff
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<fryguy> rgreen: show us examples
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<rgreen> of the html code?
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<fryguy> rgreen: of the code you are writing, and a test that shows us what's wrong
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<rgreen> well im actually writing to a database with a query but its getting stuck at the same place puts would
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<rgreen> ill show a puts example
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<rgreen> i guess the problem is that I need to assume that my HTML code that im given has every bad character in it possible including "#&'
<rgreen> %
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<Morrolan> Run it through the database adapter's escape function.
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<rgreen> fryguy: sorry its just hard for me to show you something that you could replicate
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<BlakeRG> how do i get the data type of a variable in ruby?
<ericwood> .class
<ericwood> >> 1.class
<eval-in> ericwood => Fixnum (https://eval.in/37280)
<ericwood> :D:D:D:D
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<BlakeRG> thanks e-dard
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<BlakeRG> ericwood: *
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<ericwood> lol
<BlakeRG> Fixnum is an integer right?
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<Kelet> BlakeRG, Fixnum's parent is Integer
<BlakeRG> if i want to test if it's a 0 do i need two or three = signs?
<Kelet> BlakeRG, Integer is also the parent of BigNum
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<BlakeRG> == could also be FALSE right?
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<havenwood> BlakeRG: 42.zero?; #=> false
<BlakeRG> ah, sweet
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<havenwood> releasing gems with gratuitous use of experimental refinements, muahhahaha: https://github.com/havenwood/encrypt#readme
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<BlakeRG> havenwood: is .zero apart of the integer class?
<havenwood> BlakeRG: Its actually on Numeric, which Integer inherits
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<BlakeRG> it says "if num has a zero" - think they mean "if number IS a zero"
<BlakeRG> right?
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<slash_nick> it makes perfect sense... has a zero value
<slash_nick> is a zero value sounds badly... you misquote?
<havenwood> or looking at earlier docs?
<havenwood> nope, linked 2.0 :P
<slash_nick> :)
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<havenwood> couldn't find anything to name simple encryption gem, anything related to vault or cypher all taken... so i try "encrypt" and that is available >.>
<havenwood> worst gem name i ever did was "update", which people download in droves, I think trying to update RubyGems :O
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<ericwood> hahahahaha
<ericwood> that's amazing
<havenwood> was trying to think whether to deprecate the gem any forward on to update-rubygems, or maybe better to simply yank all version
<havenwood> s/any/and
<havenwood> `gem install update`
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<havenwood> 45,000+ (mistaken) downloads
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<ericwood> that's too awesome
<ericwood> I love it
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<louism2_> Hello world
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<louism2_> Hey everyone, I am curious as to people's opinion of catching errors on the save method? You wouldn't 'expect' save to fail but it obviously could. Does catching exceptions of save seem like overkill?
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<sethetter> I need to do two-way encryption of a string into a 48 character hash string. Currently I'm using openssl/cipher with AES128, but what I'm getting is not human readable. Am I on the right track at least?
<sethetter> I tried SHA1 then realized it was not reversible..
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<onewheelskyward> You are, but do you need the 48 character hash to be human readable?
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<sethetter> onewheelskyward: Just as in alphanumeric.
<onewheelskyward> And that's not a lot of characters for an encrypted payload.
<onewheelskyward> I hope you aren't trying to send more than a few bytes.
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<onewheelskyward> alphanumeric limits your character set to 60 instead of the full 255.
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<sethetter> Hmm..
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<onewheelskyward> Why the 48 character limit?
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<ericwood> 48 chars outta be enough for anybody
<onewheelskyward> If it's text you're sending you may be better off with a simpler letter substitution scheme. It depends on how important the security is.
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<sethetter> Not really important
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<sethetter> It's to generate an api key for use by a client, the key is to be generated from some client specific information, and should be reversible.
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<sethetter> The 48 character limit was put in place before they decided to make it a generated key instead of a random one, now I'm stuck with it :(
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<sethetter> I may be able to bump the limit, but it has to stay alphanumeric.
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<sethetter> The client info string wouldn't be verylong, no more than 15-20 chars.
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<zastern> I'm trying to parse some json, and then pp (pretty print) it. I e..g `pp jsonparsed`. I thought parsed json was a hash, and you can pretty print hashes. Am I missing some intermediary step?
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<zastern> ah i think i got it
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<BlakeRG> question: if i try to access an array index that does not exist will i get an error?
<BlakeRG> this is command in PHP
<pietr0> BlakeRG: you'l get nil
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<pietr0> >> a = [] ; a[1000]
<eval-in> pietr0 => nil (https://eval.in/37281)
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<yekta> Can someone explain to me what the difference of the Date class and require 'Date' is in ruby 1.9.3? http://pastie.org/private/cui6ruddmg2edon5uxsbmq
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<end_guy> >> %|Hello world!|%
<eval-in> end_guy => /tmp/execpad-8e437c38fbaf/source-8e437c38fbaf:3: syntax error, unexpected keyword_rescue ... (https://eval.in/37282)
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<apeiros> yekta: Date is not in core, that's why you have to require it
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<apeiros> that the Date class exists in your irb session is probably because something defined it
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<apeiros> i.e. by adding a method to Date or similar
<yekta> ohh
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<yekta> so something, in Ruby yeah?
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<apeiros> something in your irb session
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<end_guy> >> f= ->n{[:hello,n]};p f[:world]
<eval-in> end_guy => [:hello, :world] ... (https://eval.in/37283)
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<apeiros> end_guy: the bot is for demonstration purposes only. please use your irb/pry for experiments.
<yekta> Its a fresh irb session, I thought `rib` just loads ruby and nothing else
<yekta> irb*
<apeiros> yekta: well, obviously it also loads irb :-p
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<apeiros> it also loads ~/.irbrc
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<end_guy> :(
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<apeiros> if you want plain ruby, you can try `ruby -e 'p Date'`
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<apeiros> that will tell you that the Date constant does not exist.
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<yekta> interesting
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<Olipro> is there a better way to do "somestring = [somestring] if somestring.is_a? String"
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<apeiros> Olipro: there are other ways, but IMO none which is better.
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<mjc_> Olipro: what do you mean by that exactly? you probably don't actually want to do that at all
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<mjc_> .is_a? is avoidable
<Guest53666> is there a way to run code before restarting a loop (like perl's `continue`)? Very useful if I want to introduce a delay before restarting a loop, but not when ending the loop, or before the first itration
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<mjc_> Guest1988: can you show us the code in a gist?
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<yekta> apeiros: thanks for explaining… I'm trying to show my pythonista friend how friendly ruby is, this was a bit magical I'm afraid
<apeiros> yekta: well, that's how it is - ruby is superficially easy, but some things still require a deep understanding if you want to know why&how
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<qubit> mjc_: I'm guessing that was asking me for an example. if so https://gist.github.com/phemmer/5978698
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<mjc_> qubit: tjat
<mjc_> er
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<mjc_> that's like [0..3].each do |i|; print "i=#{i}"; sleep 1 if i < 3; end, no?
<qubit> mjc_: well that was just a simple example showing what continue is. My actual usage right now is a bit more complex. I have a loop, and during the loop I might call `next` to skip to next iteration early, or I might let it run through the full thing. But i'd like the `continue` block to run in both cases
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<qubit> mjc_: for example: https://gist.github.com/phemmer/5978698 where it skips the rest of the loop when `$i == 2`, but the sleep still runs
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<mjc_> qubit: could put the sleep at the beginning then and use next
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<qubit> mjc_: but that causes it to sleep before the first iteration, I only want it to sleep *between* iterations
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<mjc_> qubit: [0..3].each do |i|; sleep 1 unless i < 1 or i >= 3; foo; end
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<pietr0> qubit: you can use ensure in a begin/end block but that's used for execeptions mostly http://ruby-doc.org/docs/keywords/1.9/Object.html#method-i-ensure
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<qubit> hrm, might play with that. was thinking of just using throw/catch
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<_\Mrks> Any gentoo users? opinions on managing gems via portage vs gem?
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<jude0_1> so in rakefiles how does ruby use the tassoc (=>) operator as argument? eg: "task :default => [:build, :test]". how do i duplicate that?
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<qubit> jude0_1: it becomes a hash
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<louism2_> Hey everyone, I'm new to ruby and I'm having some issue with exception handling. The following code runs the rescue block even though no error is thrown so I am put into an infinite loop because of the retry statement. Any ideas? Thanks. https://gist.github.com/louism2/5979178
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<qubit> jude0_1: you can experiment by doing something like: http://dpaste.com/1294404/
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<jude0_1> thanks qubit
<realDAB> louism2_: can you print out e and see what error is being thrown?
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<louism2_> realDAB: good idea, it's catching a syntactical error which is not was I was expected. Thanks for your help.
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<jude0_> oh i get it now qubit. "task:default => [:build, :test]" == "task default:[:build,:test]". It seems so obvious in hindsight
<jude0_> i am just no used to the old style hashes
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<ericwood_> =>=>=>
<ericwood_> rocket ships
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<jkline> Is there a way to have a private instance method also accessible from class methods?
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<fryguy> jkline: whatever you are doing sounds wrong
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<fryguy> jkline: show an example
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<jkline> i'll see what I can come up with
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<fdelacruz> hi, require_relative doesn't seem to work in ruby 1.9.3p392 or me
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<fdelacruz> require does
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<fdelacruz> is the former depricated?
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<jkline> fryguy: does this help explain what I want? https://gist.github.com/jkanywhere/5979486
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<mjc_> jkline: so basically you want it to not be able to overwrite the monogram once it's created?
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<jkline> mjc_: I want a class method to be able to do things to instances that other methods cannot do. I think particular example it is a factory method setting a monogram.
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<mjc_> jkline: well in this particular example you can just use ||= so that once it's set it can't be reset, it looks like
<mjc_> will mostly give you the same thing
<jkline> I guess i'm a bit confused about how ruby handles private vs public methods. For whatever reason i'm used to being able to call private methods on an instance from static methods on the same class
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<interactionjaxsn> jkline: you may be confusing private and public methods with class and instance methods
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<jkline> interactionjaxsn: maybe
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<fdelacruz> is require_relative depricated in 1.9.2?
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<fdelacruz> err, 1.9.3
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<fdelacruz> it seems vim is not loading the correct ruby
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<heftig> vim will load whatever libruby it was compiled against
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<fdelacruz> heftig libruby??
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<jkline> interactionjaxsn: thanks. That SO article basically tells me I should just leave everything public rather than try to do this type of restriction.
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<jkline> I guess ruby has no such thing as "can call from instances or class methods of your same type"
<fdelacruz> heftig how do I recompile that ?
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<heftig> check your distro documentation
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<fdelacruz> heftig OSX here
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