apeiros changed the topic of #ruby to: Ruby 2.0.0-p247: http://ruby-lang.org (Ruby 1.9.3-p448) || Paste >3 lines of text on http://gist.github.com
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<nycjv321> Hi all. This is an OOP Question: How do you usually handle abstracting the DB (SQLite in this instance) in your design? So I am trying to make a class to abtract interacting with a database and interacting with its tables e.g. Database.new("sqlite.db").table("some_cool_table") returns an multi-dimensional array of a table and a method to drop tables by name, etc.. etc... what I find is I also want to add the ability to do custom queries. What is best
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<nycjv321> assuming @db references in instance of SQLite3
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<nycjv321> This is what I have so far: https://gist.github.com/nycjv321/16b6a4d3475ebc26e841
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<ghanima> hey guys... I have this really big nested UGLY JSON object I need to parse http://pastebin.com/GAwUskEX
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<ghanima> I've never processed anything this large and was wondering if there is a recommended approach
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<havenn> ghanima: That looks like Ruby object notation to me, not JSON.
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<ghanima> havenn: sorry to be clear I did pass this through JSON.parse method and saved it to its own object which I assume is a hash
<havenn> ghanima: Aha, yeah looks like you parsed it fine. This isn't large at all for JSON.parse to handle.
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<ghanima> havenn: I guess my issue is that it is so nested I feel like I have right like 2 loops to get min to get to the valid data. If what your saying is true I will keep hacking at it
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<havenn> ghanima: Maybe I'm just not understanding the dilemma.
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<ghanima> havenn: now that I think about its not a delimma just need to sit back and think about my problem or my goal a little bit more
<havenn> aha
<ghanima> havenn: thanks for the insight :)
<ghanima> appreciate it
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<nycjv321> If I create multiple instances of the Logger class can I get them to write to the same file simultanously? If each instance has the file opened? (Doesn't sound possible) What is correct way of declaring instances of Logger throughout an application?
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<zets> nycjv321: might be a good place to use a singleton
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<nycjv321> ah now we are talking :)
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<bnagy> I wouldn't recommend singleton
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<bnagy> ever, tbh, but also in this case
<bnagy> just make a module and put your logging in that and then include it where needed
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<nycjv321> lol
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<nycjv321> bnagy: but wouldn't I would be defining the behavior of each class as containing an instance of Logger composing it? When if I want to write to the same file? Can I do that from multiple classes?
* nycjv321 really wanted to do the Singleton
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<bnagy> the module can sort that out
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<nycjv321> bnagy: e.g. define functionality to open and close the file?
<nycjv321> ah
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<pyoor> bnagy: would you mind a pm regarding ccovtrace?
<bnagy> Logger itself opens and closes the file
<bnagy> pyoor: like.. the ancient prospector code?
<pyoor> heh, yeap
<bnagy> sure go ahead
<nycjv321> dude the post is about a webcrawler thats what I'm developing LOL!!!
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<bnagy> nycjv321: stay away from sqlite3. Check out celerity, it's awesomes.
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<pepper_chico> git-pulled rbenv & ruby-build but didn't got newer 2.0.0-pXXX rubies with rbenv install --list
<pepper_chico> any quick tip?
<sevenseacat> did you actually install the updated versions?
<nycjv321> bnagy: link please?
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<nycjv321> bnagy: thanks for that stackoverflow link!
* nycjv321 really wanted to do the singleton though
<pepper_chico> sevenseacat, yes, the pulled ones are the ones I'm using
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<pepper_chico> or maybe, I need to update my ~/.rbenv dir somehow
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<pepper_chico> nvm, I had rbenv and ruby-build at /usr/local/src for machine access, but after user rbenv init, ~/.rbenv gets the ruby-build plugin inside it also, and it was this one to update, not the one at /usr/local/src/rbenv
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<sandstrom_> How can I find out which gem has a certain dependency? The version isn't specified in my gemfile.lock
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<lessless> why this method return false instead of true?
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<tobiasvl> because
<tobiasvl> line 2 really reads:
<tobiasvl> puts '1' and return true if 1 > 0
<tobiasvl> sorry
<tobiasvl> puts '1' and (return true if 1 > 0)
<tobiasvl> because of precedence
<tobiasvl> and `puts '1'` returns nil, which is falsy
<tobiasvl> lessless: ^
<DaniG2k> wow thats an interesting quesiton
<DaniG2k> :\
<DaniG2k> i just happened to read that
<DaniG2k> cool
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<lessless> hmm
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<lessless> tobiasvl, so, is it possible to implement a conditional method call and return in one line?
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<apeiros> lessless: yes
<apeiros> lessless: but you need to get precedence right
<apeiros> either by using proper operator (&& vs 'and'), or by being explicit via parens
<Hanmac> lessless or: begin;puts 2; return true;end if 1 > 0
<apeiros> hanmac: bah, oneliner with ; is cheating ;-p
<Hanmac> its an oneliner with begin ... end ;P
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<lessless> it seems that '&& ' and 'and' has a bigger precedence than 'if'
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<apeiros> s/bigger/higher/
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<apeiros> and no, I think `and` has a lower precedence than if, `&&` has a higher
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<hoelzro> I thought that 'and' has a higher precendence than assignment, not if
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<ChristianS> best thing is to use parens to make precedence clear
<apeiros> ok, I think I misread tobiasvl's `tobiasvl: puts '1' and (return true if 1 > 0)`
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<apeiros> && and `and` both have higher precedence than if. that is both, `a && b if cond` and `a and b if cond` are executed as `(a && b) if cond`/`(a and b) if cond`
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<tobiasvl> yes, sorry, that was silly of me.
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<Hanmac> it still does not work, you need p not puts
<tobiasvl> it's `(puts '1' and return true) if 1 > 0`, but the `and` short circuits
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<hoelzro> this is why it's a bad idea to use and/or to chain statements
<hoelzro> newlines are cheap!
<krainboltgreene> So RPGMaker uses Ruby 1.8.7 for it's scripting language.
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<krainboltgreene> Some of the worst code I've ever seen, mostly because they don't know that it's Ruby.
<apeiros> onliner just for oneliners sake are stupid anyway
<apeiros> and people doing it should be flogged.
<lessless> :))
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<krainboltgreene> Doesn't `and` return the second statement anyways?
<mhahn> what is the preferred method for breaking up long longs in ruby?
<mhahn> like conditionals over 80 char
<krainboltgreene> Make a method.
<krainboltgreene> Share behavior.
<krainboltgreene> Create an object.
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<krainboltgreene> If you have a long conditional, and it's not just your naming pattern, your object probably knows too much.
<Hanmac> krainboltgreene: yes and no, newer RPGMaker uses newer ruby (VXAce uses 1.9.3)
<apeiros> krainboltgreene: no, `and` returns either the first non-trueish value or the last true-ish value
<apeiros> krainboltgreene: that is `false and true` => false
<krainboltgreene> hanmac: Oh nice. All the wiki information said otherwise.
<apeiros> `nil and false` => nil
<apeiros> `true and nil` => nil
<apeiros> etc.
<apeiros> oh, a true-ish example: `1 and 2` => 2
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<krainboltgreene> Ah, mustive always just happened to order it in a way to get that.
<hoelzro> or a falsish one:
<hoelzro> >> false or %w(foo bar baz)
<eval-in> hoelzro => ["foo", "bar", "baz"] (https://eval.in/37656)
<mhahn> krainboltgreene: it has to do with long names
<mhahn> if
<mhahn> env[:provision_enabled] and
<mhahn> FileTest.exist? File.join(env[:root_path], config.puppetfile_path)
<mhahn> seems kind of weird to me, but that is probably because i'm used to python
<krainboltgreene> First use || not and
<krainboltgreene> || is a boolean operator, and is a control operator.
<hoelzro> you mean &&, right?
<krainboltgreene> Shit yes.
<hoelzro> =P
<krainboltgreene> Nevermind me.
<krainboltgreene> I suggest that your object store env[:provision_enabled] as an accessor.
<krainboltgreene> So you can call `provisioned?` or something.
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<krainboltgreene> That way you don't have to rewrite env[:…] everywhere when that eventually changes to some other name or interface.
<mhahn> i'm only referencing it in this one place
<mhahn> just curious in general
<krainboltgreene> Famous last words.
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<mhahn> i've come across a few long lines, wondering what the proper ruby way is to break it up
<narcan> anyone know how i can share an object between jobs in resque ?
<krainboltgreene> In addition, File.exist? works, and your object should probably store the path created from File.join(env[:root_path], config.puppetfile_path)
<krainboltgreene> mhahn: There's no ruby way to do this, the object oriented way is to define simple interfaces for complex behavior.
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<mhahn> i see
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<apeiros> 11:30 krainboltgreene: || is a boolean operator, and is a control operator.
<apeiros> um, what? :)
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<apeiros> (same question for '&& is a boolean operator, and is a control operator)
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<Hanmac> hm isnt "&" the boolean operator and "&&" an different one?
<apeiros> & is a method
<apeiros> whereas both && and `and` are syntax
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<Hanmac> hm yeah but you know what i mean
<apeiros> yes. just filling in the correct terms ;-p
<apeiros> but hence my question - && and `and` only differ in precedence. otherwise they're equivalent.
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<Hanmac> krainboltgreene: one of my friends and i try to make an totally new RPGMaker, totally written in ruby but we are still at the beginnning (currently i write bindings for the project so we can use GL-Shader and other stuff)
<hoelzro> & is (usually) bitwise AND
<hoelzro> but for booleans, I believe it's a non-short circuting AND
<krainboltgreene> hanmac: Seems like it's stuck on Windows too, for no good reason.
<Hanmac> krainboltgreene: owr is designed to be cross platform (linux and mac can be supported yet from the bindings)
<krainboltgreene> hanmac: owr?
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<Hanmac> our
<krainboltgreene> apeiros: Terminology lifted from http://devblog.avdi.org/2010/08/02/using-and-and-or-in-ruby/
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<krainboltgreene> hanmac: Ah. I'm thinking of going in an cleaning up some of the RPGMaker ruby code. Really a mess.
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<narcan> about to give up with resque, the documentation is awful
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<Hanmac> narcan: when the VXAce was released i didnt get it running in my linux system, so i only had the script code to investigate, and the comments were only in japanise, so i only had the source to understand … it works ;P (i "copy" some ideas from the ace into my game scripting too)
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<krainboltgreene> Wrong person.
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<krainboltgreene> It's slightly annoying that #constants gives you symbols instead of actual objects.
<krainboltgreene> "Hey, ruby give me constants." "Here are things that are certainly not constants, good luck!"
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<Hanmac> krainboltgreene: i have seen an script where you can change the internal C structure of an Ruby object (so you could unfreeze objects or something similar)
<krainboltgreene> hanmac: That's pretty crazy. I've mostly seen bad patterns, like global variables everywhere or snake + camel case.
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<Hanmac> krainboltgreene: https://github.com/yugui/evil-ruby/blob/master/lib/evil.rb there it is … it also has an class= method ;D
<krainboltgreene> hanmac: Does it have any version control tools or testing?
<Hanmac> do you mean the evil thing or our maker?
<krainboltgreene> RPGmaker
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<Hanmac> https://github.com/OpenRubyRMK << there are the repositories for the maker http://devel.pegasus-alpha.eu/projects/openrubyrmk/boards << this is the forum
<Hanmac> its still in developing so there is not much for testing yet :(
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<Hanmac> krainboltgreene: i think this folder would be interesting https://github.com/OpenRubyRMK/game-engine/tree/master/data/scripts/2.0 there i try to make an new stdScripts for the game engine (look at the difference between RPG::Weapon and Game::Weapon)
<krainboltgreene> Cool.
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<Hanmac> do you like C++ too?
<krainboltgreene> Never had a need to write it.
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<Hanmac> because the stuff i write for the maker, like the GUIToolkit and the Rendering Engine are written in C++ (currently i picked wxWidgets and SFML)
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<krainboltgreene> The only GUI stuff I've done has been in Shoes.
<Hanmac> wxWidgets is a bit cooler (and has a native looking on different systems)
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<krainboltgreene> I <3 blocks, so I doubt it's cooler :D
<krainboltgreene> Plus all the tutorials were terribly obtuse for me at the time.
<krainboltgreene> Shoes was incredibly easy to pickup.
<Hanmac> you can look at my codes at the OpenRubyRMK repositories and maybe join into the forum too (we still looking for helping hands)
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<mosez> hanmac: files at https://github.com/OpenRubyRMK/game-engine/tree/master/data/scripts/2.0 are not really ruby conventions, hum? camelcase method names, multiple classes with different namespaces within a single file, require_relative instead of autoload? :)
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<krainboltgreene> Fuck autoload.
<krainboltgreene> What a pain.
<krainboltgreene> require_relative all the way.
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<mosez> nvm, structure sucks anyway :)
<Hanmac> hm yes, a) one of the reasons the folder is named 2.0 is that ruby2.0+ is required, b) camelcase methods yeah that maybe need to be changed c) autoload should be dropped someday and it can be trusted d) RPG::* and Game::* are always in one file because they are two components of the same feature "the files are feature, not class based"
<krainboltgreene> Definitely needs to be changed.
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<krainboltgreene> Think of all those poor people trying to learn ruby via RPGmaker, then actually going to look at "real" ruby code.
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<Hanmac> krainboltgreene: yeah … and i must say that my ruby code is maybe not the easiest one … like look at the "chain" methods in the class definitions
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<mosez> for me this structure is simply dirty :)
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<krainboltgreene> The only bad parts I really see are best practices and that you prefer complex logic over delegating to objects.
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<mosez> and you should add some codestyle guidelines... on some parts 2 spaces indent, on thers much more and maybe tabs...
<krainboltgreene> The former is endemic and hard to fix on release, because it adds no intrinsic value and spreads before you fix it all.
<krainboltgreene> The later can easily be fixed later.
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<Hanmac> krainboltgreene: did you read more of my ruby code?
<krainboltgreene> Just a few files.
<krainboltgreene> Mostly in that directory you showed me.
<krainboltgreene> I think this is a great project.
<krainboltgreene> Especially for Ruby's ecosystem.
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<apeiros> krainboltgreene: well, constants are not objects
<apeiros> for the same reason instance_variables doesn't give you the values either
<apeiros> but it'd be nice to have a method which returned e.g. {name => value} mapping of the constants
<krainboltgreene> Yes, I know that constants are not objects.
<krainboltgreene> But contents return objects, which is what I care about.
<krainboltgreene> If I want the name of the value of a constant, I'll call for it's name.
<apeiros> that's the point
<apeiros> the value *does not have* a name
<apeiros> X = "hi"; x = X; B = X # what name does "hi" have?
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<krainboltgreene> Let me decide that :P
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<narcan> anyone know how i can share an object between jobs in resque ?
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<buzzybron> is there a ruby equiv of the python triple single quote?
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<hoelzro> heredocs
<hoelzro> or %q/%Q
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<hoelzro> buzzybron: ^
<hoelzro> >>> puts %q{hello, world!}
<eval-in> hoelzro => /tmp/execpad-2b969f37e420/source-2b969f37e420:2: syntax error, unexpected '>' ... (https://eval.in/37682)
<hoelzro> oops
<hoelzro> >> puts %q{hello, world!}
<eval-in> hoelzro => hello, world! ... (https://eval.in/37683)
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<krainboltgreene> narcan: Any way you'd do that would probably be a bad idea, BUT
<krainboltgreene> narcan: You can marshal load/dump in some really neat ways.
<narcan> krainboltgreene: to give context , i'm trying to use resque to send iOS push notifications with a gem called grocer
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<krainboltgreene> narcan: Then I suggest creating an object that takes the data rescue is handed (ids, messages, etc), and does what you want. Don't make resque classes do anything other than set other stuff up.
<narcan> i'd like to have a single 'grocer' per worker, so it maintains a persistant connection to Apple's push notification servers
<krainboltgreene> Ah
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<narcan> as otherwise Apple starts to flag you as spam if you're opening loads of connections
<krainboltgreene> Well you can create an object that has a class variable equal to this grocer object.
<krainboltgreene> Hmm, though it'd still need to be in the same process.
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<krainboltgreene> Have your Resque workers create an instance of an object, that when called send a GET request to a single server. That server, some sinatra server uses grocer.
<narcan> yeah, the whole thing is driving me a bit batty. i'm not sure how these gems are actually being used in production, because it's not optimal to call it from the web server
<narcan> (where you could just have a single instance hanging around)
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<narcan> i did find this solution https://github.com/arthurnn/apn_sender
<narcan> which is built on resque
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<krainboltgreene> Looks like grocer was working on having a connection pool: https://github.com/grocer/grocer/pull/35
<narcan> but because i use resque for a few other things, i liked the simplicity of trying to just have a small little job myself
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<narcan> krainboltgreene: yeah, i actually saw that, but i was then vauge as to whether that would go across processes forked from resque ?
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<narcan> though that effort seemed to have gone stale for some reason
<krainboltgreene> I believe the idea is to instantiate the Grocer object at process start, and then your workers have access to it.
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<krainboltgreene> Right now that wouldn't work, because it's not threadsafe.
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<narcan> yeah, i guess that was actually my original question
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<alainus> In Arch Linux, apparently gvim requires to install ruby as a dependency. However, if I want to work with RVM, then I don't need the binary ruby installed. Can that cause problems? Can ruby be removed and gvim configured to use the RVM version of ruby that's installed?
<narcan> ignoring the threadsafe thing, i was confused as to how to actually share the object between threads
<krainboltgreene> narcan: Well each thread shares rails environment, along with the stuff at initialization.
<krainboltgreene> I believe.
<krainboltgreene> I know sidekiq does.
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<narcan> there's no rails environment
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<krainboltgreene> Oh.
<krainboltgreene> alainus: There should be no issues with dvm, any issues will likely be with gvim.
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<alainus> krainboltgreene, ok, thanks.
<krainboltgreene> Specifically on how ambitious they are about which ruby to fetch.
<krainboltgreene> ambigious.
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<Hanmac> buzzybron: what does "triple single quote" do?
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<cHarNe2> hi guys, im trying do download files over https with basic_auth, but the site uses a 302 redirect, but i think i fugured that out. tho it still does not work.
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<cHarNe2> anyone case to take a look? http://pastie.org/8145614 im getting 401 "Unauthorized", the same un/pw and url works fine in a browser.
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<dachi> hello people. I need a help please please. I have a huge array but for simple let's take [{:start=>"30", :end=>"1217"}, {:start=>"2047", :end=>"2076"}]...... How to know if this array has :start => 20,,:end => 1411. I tried arr.includes? :start => 20, :end => 1411 with no luck. Help me out please
<KevinSjoberg> I know this isn't related to Ruby but I would appreciate some help. Does anyone know a good word that described words such as distance, steps, time and borg scale?
<KevinSjoberg> What I'm trying to find is a generic word.
<KevinSjoberg> describes*
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<bnagy> scalar values?
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<KevinSjoberg> bnagy: I was thinking of that myself, but I feel it's a bit CS-related I'm trying to find a word fitting for the customer's domain (fitness application)
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<bnagy> dachi: it's include? not includes?
<dachi> yes it's include?
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<bnagy> >> [{:start=>"30", :end=>"1217"}, {:start=>"2047", :end=>"2076"}].include? start: '30', end: '1217'
<eval-in> bnagy => true (https://eval.in/37696)
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<dachi> oh bnagy thanks a lot! u made it easier now. God bless you. Thank!
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<mikecmpbll> should be named .includes? imo.
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<mikecmpbll> never liked that.
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<KevinSjoberg> mikecmpbll: Easy enough to fix :)
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<mikecmpbll> KevinSjoberg: true that.
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<KevinSjoberg> mikecmpbll: class Array ; alias :includes? :include? ; end # Mission accomplished! :)
<krainboltgreene> KevinSjoberg: Metric
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<mikecmpbll> confuse the shit out of collaborators if i was doing that all over the shop, though.
<KevinSjoberg> mikecmpbll: Haha, sure. I wouldn't recommend it.
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<rburton-> How can I tell byebug to stop on a given line e.g., debugger in rails?
<Hanmac> rburton-: #rubyonrails
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<rburton-> This is Rails its Ruby
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<Hanmac> rburton-: Ruby is not Rails
<Mon_Ouie> It seems to me the question is about byebug, not rails
<rburton-> Mon_Ouie++
<rburton-> I said e.g.,
<rburton-> hence like this in Rails.
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<rburton-> To give context so people know what I'm refererring to
<rburton-> e.g. useful information that may help avoid horse shit arguments.
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<L8D> Is there a lib for doing ajax requests? I can't seem to find one
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<hoelzro> L8D: what do you mean?
<hoelzro> AJAX requests are done by JS in the browser
<L8D> Yeah....
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<L8D> I need to do them in ruby
<L8D> Is there a lib that you let me do that?
<hoelzro> you need to perform HTTP requests in Ruby?
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<L8D> no
<L8D> well, I guess I'm confused about ajax then
<L8D> I have a mechanize bot.
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<L8D> And for a few pages, some of the information I need seems to only be available through an ajax request...
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<hoelzro> how have you determined that?
<L8D> oh
<L8D> wait
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<L8D> all an ajax request is, is translating XML into json
<hoelzro> that's not what an AJAX request is...
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<L8D> so...I would need an xml parser lib?
<L8D> well, after traveling down the URL, I got an XML with the data I need
<hoelzro> an AJAX request is just an HTTP request made from the browser in an asynchronous fashion
<hoelzro> (although the 'X' *does* stand for XML)
<L8D> well.......
<L8D> Then now...I guess I need an XML parser
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<L8D> wait...why did I just say that in a channel where no one cares?
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<visof> hello
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<visof> how can i write all values of array to one string?
<Hanmac> visof: array.join
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<visof> hanmac, how can i do this with specific format?
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<visof> like "val = #{arrayval}"
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<Hanmac> visof: depends on what do you want, how should the string looks like?
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<visof> so if i have arr = [1,2,3] , i need it like this : "val = 1, val = 2, val = 3"
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<visof> hanmac, ?
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<Hanmac> >> [1,2,3].map {|s| "val = #{s}}.join(",")
<eval-in> Hanmac => /tmp/execpad-9a71b83cb345/source-9a71b83cb345:2: syntax error, unexpected ',', expecting '}' ... (https://eval.in/37704)
<Hanmac> >> [1,2,3].map {|s| "val = irc://irc.freenode.net:7000/#%7Bs%7D%7D.join(",")
<eval-in> Hanmac => /tmp/execpad-ab1fcbcc3e28/source-ab1fcbcc3e28:2: syntax error, unexpected ',', expecting '}' ... (https://eval.in/37705)
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<Hanmac> >> [1,2,3].map {|s| "val = #{s}" }.join(", ")
<eval-in> Hanmac => "val = 1, val = 2, val = 3" (https://eval.in/37706)
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<bsdbandit> good morning im a python coder looking to try out ruby what resources would you guys recommend book wise ?/
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<bsdbandit> cool thanks
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<hoelzro> I highly recommend "The Ruby Programming Language"
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<hoelzro> very good book
<ericwood> I keep a copy next to my toilet to read while I'm pooping
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<ericwood> it's a horrible guide to ruby but I <3 it so much
* ericwood lets loose a single tear, which rolls down his cheek
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<hoelzro> ericwood: seriously? what's so horrible about it?
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<ericwood> hoelzro: it's not that great of a technical reference
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<ericwood> but it's a wonderful book
<ericwood> and a must-read for rubyists :D
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<ericwood> anyone here going to Lonestar Ruby Conf this weekend?!?!?!
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<lectrick> Is anyone using Celluloid in a production scenario?
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<claymore> why does "\nfoo".gsub(/\\/,"") return "\nfoo" and not "nfoo"?
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<passcod> lectrick, I don't, but I've seen it used in heavy loads in production, if you're asking about its production-readiness
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<lectrick> passcod: yeah, mostly. I just wanted to maybe play with it but didn't want to sink a lot of time into it unless someone tested the bleeding edge in a production scenario. thanks...
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<hoelzro> claymore: because "\n" is a single character
<hoelzro> a newline
<staafl> greetings, #ruby
<Hanmac> claymore: look at this:
<Hanmac> >> ["\nfoo".size, '\nfoo'.size]
<staafl> i'm looking for the most elegant way to solve a problem
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<Hanmac> >> ["\nfoo".size, '\nfoo'.size]
<eval-in> Hanmac => [4, 5] (https://eval.in/37720)
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<waxjar> what's the problem staafl ?
<claymore> hanmac, hoelzro: wow, I never realised this... thanks for pointing this out
<staafl> namely, read a text file and split it at every blank line
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<staafl> each part being saved to a separate file
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<staafl> I can write a clumsy, naive solution, but I'm wondering how an experienced rubyist would do it
<ccooke> staafl: is it ever going to be a problem to load the entire file into memory?
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<staafl> ccooke, i don't think so
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<D4T> can someone help with a regex, this used to work in Ruby 1.8 but doesn't in 1.9 .to_s[/"([^"]+)/, 1]
<ccooke> staafl: so you can do File.read("input").each_line.with_object(]
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<ccooke> staafl: typo, sorry. hit enter
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<alistar> Afternoon, I'm using 'backports/1.9.2/array/rotate' in my code via puppet and noticed that some servers are returning no such file. Does anyone know what package provides this?
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<staafl> D4T, is this rx is supposed to grap text between double quotes?
<ccooke> staafl: so you can do File.read("input").each_line.with_object([]) do |line, saved| if line =~ /^\s*$/ # so something with the variable saved; saved = []; else saved << line; end; end
<ccooke> staafl: (as a frame idea, at least)
<D4T> staafl: yeah
<staafl> ccooke, neat
<staafl> ccooke, is there a reason to use with_object([]) instead of defining saved outside the "loop"?
<ccooke> staafl: you can do something very similar if you can't risk buffering everything to memory
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<staafl> ccooke, readlines?
<ccooke> staafl: there's no need for that variable outside the loop.
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<staafl> ccooke, i see
<ccooke> staafl: File.open(file, "r") do |fh| ; fh.each_line
<ccooke> staafl: as an example.
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<staafl> ccooke, it really is eloquent
<staafl> thank you
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<ccooke> staafl: Again, this is only good if you will never have really big files
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<staafl> ccooke, I can live with that
<staafl> the main thing is I learned a little more ruby
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<Hanmac> staafl & apeiros look at this: File.foreach(path).chunk(&/\A\S*\Z/.method(:!~)).select(&:first).map(&:last)
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<PeterBoy> Hi
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<PeterBoy> How can I see if an array is multidimensional?
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<PeterBoy> the length for [1, 2] is 2 and the length for [[1, 2], [1, 2]] is also 2
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<waxjar> something like array.one? { |x| x.is_a? Array } ?
<hoelzro> you have to dig in
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<hoelzro> and investigate
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<hoelzro> I'm sure there's some crazy reduce thing you could write to find it out
<hoelzro> (assuming it's uniform)
<Hanmac> PeterBoy: use array.any? not array.one?
<GeekOnCoffee> a.flatten.length == a.length
<Hanmac> GeekOnCoffee: not all arrays are flattable :(
<GeekOnCoffee> hanmac: oh?
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<Hanmac> >> a = []; a << a; a.flatten
<eval-in> Hanmac => tried to flatten recursive array (ArgumentError) ... (https://eval.in/37721)
<Hanmac> GeekOnCoffee: as you can see you may can not trust if an array you get is flattable or not
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<D4T> can't you just use Array.size ?
<Hanmac> D4T does not work
<hoelzro> isn't size a synonym for length?
<D4T> hanmac: seems to for me?
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<Hanmac> D4T it depends what post of me you mean
<D4T> lol ok
<D4T> doesn't matter :)
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<D4T> can someone help with a regex, its really hurting my head :(
<D4T> [" name = \"OS X 10.8 - 2GB RAM - 25GB Storage\", "]
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<D4T> and i want to match "OS X 10.8 - 2GB RAM - 25GB Storage"
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<mljsimone> D4T: Try this: http://gskinner.com/RegExr/
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<Hanmac> >> [" name = \"OS X 10.8 - 2GB RAM - 25GB Storage\", "][0][/"(.+)"/,1]
<eval-in> Hanmac => "OS X 10.8 - 2GB RAM - 25GB Storage" (https://eval.in/37725)
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<sheeny> Hi all, is there a way to check if a date is a bank holiday in ruby?
<sheeny> (British)
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<dEPy> how do you define methods on the fly for objects?
<Hanmac> sheeny it ruby does not have some kind of holyday calculation .. you need to feed it with the data
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<D4T> hanmac: you legend! thanks a lot for that :)
<Hanmac> dEPy def obj.meth …. end or class << obj def meth … end end
<sheeny> hanmac: ah thanks, going to be fun
<mjc_> sheeny: there's a gem for that
<sheeny> mjc_: ah great! thank god for that
<mjc_> it doesn't handle time zones though
<mjc_> not hard to implement that on your own if you need it
<sheeny> mjc_: yeah, thats great, thanks!
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<mjc_> np :)
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<D4T> thanks all, I'll be back tomorrow no doubt lol. c ya!
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<sheeny> mjc_: hmm its a bit slow
<dEPy> hanmac so if I have object I just do: def object.newmethod ....... end ?
<mjc_> sheeny: what're you expecting to use it for?
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<sheeny> mjc_: i need to calculate days holiday taken from 2 dates so need to take into account weekends and bank holidays
<Hanmac> dEPy yeah, but beware on some objects you can not define singleton methods (frozen objects, or Numbers (which are frozen too in newer ruby))
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<dEPy> hanmac: ok, tnx
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<mjc_> sheeny: for one country or many?
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<sheeny> just UK
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<sheeny> i guess I could retrieve them every so often and store them somewhere
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<mjc_> sheeny: indeed
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<sheeny> mjc_: gonna give that a try. thanks for your help! much appreciated
<mjc_> anytime :)
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<kraljev1> what is the difference between
<kraljev1> class X < Y
<kraljev1> class X include Y
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<Hanmac> kraljev1: you can only inherit from classes (first one) and you can only include modules (second one)
<kraljev1> so, this is the only difference?
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<Hanmac> kraljev1: yeah, but you need to be remember that one class can only intherit from one other class, but it can include multible modules
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<Hanmac> modules itself can not create instances only classes can
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<Hanmac> modules can also prepended into classes which is similar to include but with an difference in the ancestors list
<kraljev1> so, module is like abstact class
<kraljev1> in c++, java
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<Hanmac> yeah i think so
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<kraljev1> hey, thanks :)
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<apeiros> hanmac: yo, you crazy! :D
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<Hanmac> apeiros: did i do something evil again? you know that you need to tell me when i am doing something evil again ;P
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<DylanJ> kraljev1: ... not really.
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<DylanJ> kraljev1: think of a module as a group of functions you can inject into a class
<kraljev1> really?
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<kraljev1> aha, so regarding that
<Hanmac> DylanJ: so what is the difference compared to an abstact class in C++ ?
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<DylanJ> hanmac: you define the bodies of the functions in the module
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<DylanJ> an abstract class has no method bodies
<DylanJ> you inherit then define what they do
<DylanJ> but you must*? implement all the methods in the class
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<Hanmac> hm Enumerable#each could be such an function you "must" implement
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<DylanJ> Enumerable.each already exists though
<DylanJ> if you have a LolzEnumerable < Enumerable
<DylanJ> you dont write a new each
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<Hanmac> hm no Enumerable does not have an each method, but all methods depend on this, and you cant do < Enumerable because its a module
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<DylanJ> oh you're right. either way. i wouldn't call a module an abstract class
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<kraljev1> hi, hello
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<kraljev1> in #method_missing
<kraljev1> how can I rethrow the exception?
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<Hanmac> kraljev1: call "super"
<kraljev1> i was thinking the same, but... :)
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<UForgotten> I've noodled through the tutorials on the ruby page but none of them seem to get into the fundamentals or the meat of the language, just piddly examples
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<UForgotten> are there better ways to learn ruby from a non-programming background?
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<Hanmac> UForgotten: something like "you want that your object react like an array? object.extend(Enumerable) now it does" ;P
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<UForgotten> hanmac: that's a little too advanced but would like to eventually get there yes
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<crim> Hello...I would like create several arrays all with the name "table1", "table2", ... "table10". How can I do this using a loop?
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<kraljev1> why would you want to do this?
<Hanmac> crim use an array of arrays
<kraljev1> exactly
<Hanmac> or hash of arrays
<GeekOnCoffee> (1..10).collect{|n| "table#{n}"}
<Hanmac> GeekOnCoffee: i think he means instance variables
<UForgotten> methods like collect, select, inject, all of those are difficult for a newbie to understand or when to use them
<UForgotten> none of the basic tutorials cover them, I feel like it's a big gap in learning
<AntelopeSalad> is rubymonk considered a good resource for people without a programming background? i haven't gone through all of it
<AntelopeSalad> but from what i've seen so far it looked pretty good
<UForgotten> I'm doing it now and it's not
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<crim> thanks for everyone's input
<crim> GeekOnCoffee: I would like table1 to be an array
<crim> hanmac: what you said
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<kraljev1> what is the opposite of String#capitalize
<xeviox> hi guys, I try to use Array.delete_if with multiple statements. As a block shouldn't use "return" here I tried to use a lambda, which gave me an error. How should I use it correctly with multiple statements?
<UForgotten> kraljev1 would downcase work
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<AntelopeSalad> UForgotten: not really sure then hmm, maybe take one of those free online courses for general programming knowledge then apply it to ruby afterwards?
<kraljev1> no, it changes all the characters
<xeviox> UForgotten: downcase
<UForgotten> hanmac: that guy is on some strange drugs or something
<xeviox> op sorry
<xeviox> to slow ^^
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<eval-in> kraljev1 => "test" (https://eval.in/37740)
<kraljev1> >> "TesT".downcase
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<kraljev1> correct would be tesT
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<Hanmac> kraljev1 capitalize.swapcase
<UForgotten> AntelopeSalad: I have enough to understand the tutorials... they're just not feeding me enough ruby for it to be useful.
<GeekOnCoffee> (1..10).each{|n| instance_variable_set "@table#{n}", []}
<GeekOnCoffee> crim: ^^
<kraljev1> >> "TesT".capitalize.swapcase
<eval-in> kraljev1 => "tEST" (https://eval.in/37750)
<kraljev1> correct is tesT
<UForgotten> great I can add strings together, bfd. I need to learn methods and syntax.
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<UForgotten> kraljev1: that seems like a strange requirement ;)
<Hanmac> >> "TesT".reverse.capitalize.reverse
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<AntelopeSalad> UForgotten: are you able to drop a few bucks on a book?
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<crim> GeekOnCoffee: ty
<DefV> kraljev1: kraljev1 chars = string.mb_chars; (chars.slice(0).downcase + chars.slice(1..-1)).to_s
<DefV> >> chars = "TesT".mb_chars; (chars.slice(0).downcase + chars.slice(1..-1)).to_s
<eval-in> DefV => undefined method `mb_chars' for "TesT":String (NoMethodError) ... (https://eval.in/37753)
<eval-in> Hanmac => "tesT" (https://eval.in/37754)
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<eval-in> DefV => no implicit conversion of Array into String (TypeError) ... (https://eval.in/37755)
<DefV> >> chars = "TesT".chars; (chars.slice(0).downcase + chars.slice(1..-1)).to_s
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<apeiros> DefV: why use .chars? String#[] already is character based (as of 1.9)
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<BlakeRG> is there a way to return true/false from within an exception rescue block?
<BlakeRG> it does not seem to be bubbling up
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<DylanJ> BlakeRG: code?
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<apeiros> did Espadinhas spam other people via pm too?
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<louism2__> Hey everyone, what does the "<<" symbol mean in terms of singleton classes? (ex. class << self)
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<Hanmac> louism2__ "class << obj" is for opening the singleton class so you can use def meth; end inside it or attr_accessor
<apeiros> louism2__: class << obj; self; end == obj.singleton_class
<apeiros> i.e., self within `class << obj` is the same as `obj.singleton_class`
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<louism2__> ok, so "<<" is simply the opening of a singleton class?
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<apeiros> louism2__: not the << alone
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<apeiros> it must be `class << obj`
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<apeiros> but yes, that opens the singleton class of obj
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<louism2__> apeiros: cool, thanks. I need to do some more homework
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<Hanmac> apeiros & louism2__ class << obj; can not easly replaced with obj.singleton_class.class_eval because method defining and constant lookup is different
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<apeiros> correct
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<apeiros> I still wish for a universal_eval which accepts arguments for lvar-binding, ivar-self, cvar-self, constant-lookup-base and default-receiver
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<Hanmac> hm make an ticket request for that
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<Lewix> foo.empty? ? true : (errors.add(:base, "whatever it's a test"); false) . It's not possible to use the ternary operator this way. Is it
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<jkline> in what way is that Lewix ?
<Lewix> jkline: was the previous expression correct as an alternative to a if else clause
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<waxjar> you want the colon instead of the semi-colon
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<waxjar> condition ? true : false
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<Morrolan> He does not, he's trying to execute multiple lines of code inside the 'branches' of a ternary operator.
<Lewix> waxjar: right, the semicolon is part of the else expression
<Morrolan> No clue if it works, it's probably a horrible idea though. :P
<waxjar> ah, read that wrong
<waxjar> sorry
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<jkline> Lewix: I would not choose to use a ternary that way. What about errors.add(:bas, "whatever I do what I want") if not foo.empty?
<waxjar> but yea that's possible
<Morrolan> >> nil ? true : (puts 'hello'; false)
<eval-in> Morrolan => hello ... (https://eval.in/37800)
<apeiros> jkline: you can't use ; that way, no
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<Lewix> apeiros: can you be more explicit =). Morrolan code seems to work
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<apeiros> hm, my statement might have been premature
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<lilys1> Does anyone have some time to look at my Tic Tac Toe Game? I have been looking at a particular section for hours and I can't figure out why it ends up in an endless loop (please look at my cpu_to_win and cpu_block_player methods as they are the ones that don't work when this code runs). The gist is located at https://gist.github.com/jtong33/5991809
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<apeiros> lilys1: watching a live SC2 event ATM, but can take a look later
<lilys1> ok that would be great as well
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<YaNakilon> foo.empty?.tap{ |i| errors.add(:base, "whatever it's a test") if i }
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<YaNakilon> Lewix
<YaNakilon> 23:15 time to go home
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<fragmachine> go away
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<Lewix> YaNakilon: I think you meant foo.empty?.tap{|i| errors.add(:base, "whatever it's a test") unless i }
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<Lewix> YaNakilon: and thank you, very elegant
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<lilys1> can someone tell me why this part of the code keeps looping through itself? https://gist.github.com/jtong33/3e5fc62c73107e39e7a4
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<jkline> do people typically define new exception types one per file?
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<lectrick> Does Ruby maintain a global somewhere of a list of files it's already loaded?
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<lectrick> found it: $"
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<lilys1> where is it located lectrick?
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<matled> lectrick: $LOADED_FEATURES if you prefer more self explaining code :)
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<ericx2x> guys can you check out http://www.trionia.com/SmallArmy/DewIQ/ and tell me if i implemented those meta tags correctly? Here is the information I was assigned that I am supposed to implement the meta tags with https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/12883232/informatino.png
<ericx2x> im a noob at implementing meta tags
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<Tomas3> How can you choose which version of ruby to use on shared hosting? Is it possible to install rbenv/rvm without root access?
<terrellt> In fact, that's usually how it's done.
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<Tomas3> I've managed to clone the rbenv repo but can't get ruby-build to install
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<milestone> can someone tell me what eputs is?
<milestone> i see the function called in a ruby script
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<milestone> searched =011815814100681837392%3Awnccv6st5qk&q=eputs&sa=Search&cof=FORID%3A9
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<milestone> but no luch
<milestone> luck
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<joshu_> is anyone with web api building experience free for a private chat? I would like some feedback please ;)
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<RobW_> is it considered good form to use a hash value as a pointer to another hash value, e.g., var = hash1[options[:somekey]]
<RobW_> ?
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<terrellt> RobW_: *Shrug* If options doesn't have :somekey it'll throw an exception, but besides that.
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<RobW_> terrellt: right. Thanks
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<matled> terrellt, RobW_: it wont throw an exception, it will simply return nil unless hash1 has a value for the key nil
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<RobW_> Danke.
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<zigomir> is it possible to extend class within class_eval? (or am I too optimistic:)
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<Deele> could someone suggest some material about writing a console app, that shows a list of actions, like start another app, connect to server, and whenever action is finished, it returns to that list of actions, without exiting app, just like windows batch files with goto function
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<jkline> Deele: check out gli. Also readline
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<jkline> Neither is exactly what you need, but perhaps can be involved in a solution
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<jkline> Has anyone used Nestegg for exceptions?
<mjc_> Deele: hirb might be good too
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<mjc_> ah nevermind
<mjc_> need irb for it I think
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<Deele> yes, they are all tools, that could be used to solve specific tasks in command line, but I need something else
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<Deele> I want to understand, how to put ruby app in such a controlled loop, that would allow me call actions, launch other apps asynchronously
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<jkline> what do you mean "launch other apps asynchronously"?
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<jkline> that is not something I have experience with
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<trose> anyone have experience with the oauth gem?
<trose> i'm getting an error just calling get_request_token
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<trose> here's the error http://pastebin.com/Pk9ru0Sv
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<Gate> trose: I have some experience, that error smells like bad configuration, looking deeper
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<Gate> trose: can you share the code you are using that gets this error? (remember to remove any private keys/tokens)
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<gischy> %x[ wget --output-document=#{current_number} "http://graph.facebook.com/#{current_number}" ]
<gischy> how to wget it into a specific folder?
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<nettoweb> guys, can someone tell me if sequel pro support connecting a heroku postgress database?
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<olleh_> why not?
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