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<buzzybron> i'm using the pg gem and i have a requirement which will need me to rollback if any part of my queries fail, how can i do that?
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<buzzybron> is there a transaction method in pg gem which i can use?
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<sethetter> when i try to launch irb i get 'Illegal instruction 4', I'm on mac os, if that makes a difference. Any clues? I use rvm and it does the same thing in 1.8.7, 1.9.3, and 2.0.0
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<lastk> hi guys, how can I use this method: URI::regexp(%w(http https)) with a string? to validates if the string is a url?
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<sethetter> momomomomo: thanks
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<krainboltgreene> If you had to keep track of a specifc set of classes, a group of classes, would you dynamically search for them or would you store them in an array at the beginning of load?
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<bnagy> why would you have to keep track of classes?
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<bigmac> Socket.new(Socket::PF_PACKET, Socket::SOCK_RAW, 0x03_00)
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<bigmac> can some one explain whats going on with this line
<bigmac> i would like to dump traffic that passes threw my wlan device
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<krainboltgreene> bnagy: Why really doesn't matter here.
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<bnagy> krainboltgreene: well it does, because it's a code smell
<krainboltgreene> No, it's not.
<bnagy> and if you say stuff like 'how would you shut your nuts in a desk drawer' most people will say 'well actually I wouldn't'
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<sevenseacat> lol
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<sevenseacat> good call.
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<krainboltgreene> Don't be a dick, seriously.
<krainboltgreene> I asked a question about practice, and you're telling me I'm asking a dumb question.
<krainboltgreene> That's neither nice or helpful.
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<bnagy> well actually I started by asking why you'd do that
<bnagy> but you were disinclined to answer
<bnagy> _then_ I said it was a dumb question
<sevenseacat> meh, he left
<bnagy> prima facie, anyway
<bnagy> day's tally: I
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<sevenseacat> lol
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<bnagy> bigmac: I have never worked with PF_PACKET
<bnagy> my advice is actually to find some C code that uses the same part of the API, the Socket class is about as thin a wrapper as there is in stdlib
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<bnagy> I don't know what protocol 0x3000 is, though, didn't know they went over 256 tbh
<bigmac> those options are new to me
<bigmac> thanks for the paper
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<bnagy> well the 'normal' bsd sockets api is like type family proto or whatever
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<bnagy> that's what I've done in the past, PF_INET
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<blarghmatey> I'm taking a poll: how many of you would want to do business with a company named Boundless Notions if it was a consulting firm. How about if you were getting a software product from them?
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<sevenseacat> uh... what?
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<sevenseacat> is this a 'critique the company name'?
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<blarghmatey> Trying to figure out if it's a viable name for a business.
<bnagy> WE SAIL THE BOUNDLESS NOTIONS, YARR, AND FLY THE JOLLY ROGER!
<sevenseacat> lol
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<blarghmatey> I'll take that as a down vote.
<sevenseacat> seems like a meh name to me
<sevenseacat> but would it affect me doing business with them, no
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<blarghmatey> Yeah, it was the best I've been able to come up with in a while.
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<steve0341> greetings
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<steve0341> Anyone new to Ruby Program wants to pair up?
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<ruby-lang605> Can somebody tell me why I am getting "ruby syntax error, unexpected ':', expecting '}'" LIne 10 on this piece of code http://pastie.org/8133598
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<bnagy> not offhand
<bnagy> unless you're on ruby 1.8
<ruby-lang605> Yes i am on 1.8
<Mon_Ouie> That syntax was added in 1.9
<bnagy> >> A={Comment: lambda{}}
<eval-in> bnagy => {:Comment=>#<Proc:0x4165d13c@/tmp/execpad-a04a94fb4b5b/source-a04a94fb4b5b:2 (lambda)>} (https://eval.in/37306)
<bnagy> 18>> A={Comment: lambda{}}
<eval-in> bnagy => /tmp/execpad-cf45be05f456/source-cf45be05f456:2: odd number list for Hash ... (https://eval.in/37307)
<Mon_Ouie> The other hash syntax is {:Comment => lambda { … }}
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<bnagy> but more to the point you need to get off 1.8
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<ruby-lang605> so code is correct for 1.9
<bnagy> should be, at least that part
<ruby-lang605> great thanks
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<Mendon> Anyone have a neat way to turn an array into a hash where each element in the array is a key that points to its old array index as a value?
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<bnagy> >> Hash[%w(a b c).each.with_index.to_a]
<eval-in> bnagy => {"a"=>0, "b"=>1, "c"=>2} (https://eval.in/37308)
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<Mendon> >> Hash[[].each.with_index.to_a]
<eval-in> Mendon => {} (https://eval.in/37309)
<Mendon> Beautiful, thank you bnagy.
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<Mendon> Any difference between .each.with_index and .each_with_index?
<bnagy> not really
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<r0bgleeson> i am a teapot, watch me sprout
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<barraponto> is there a better way to concat on a loop? https://gist.github.com/16ff47db4e59e1cf0648
<barraponto> my yaml_render seems ugly :P
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<Mon_Ouie> each_with_object("") { |id, carta, str|
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<barraponto> Mon_Ouie: thanks.
<Mon_Ouie> or output* instead of str
<barraponto> sorry, how would output* be used?
<Mon_Ouie> each_with_object("") { |id, carta, output|
<Mon_Ouie> The star was just to indicate that I was correcting myself
<barraponto> oh ok
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<barraponto> (i'm new to ruby, i never know when a symbol means something)
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<barraponto> like $:
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<barraponto> hm, it says "undefined method `<<' for nil:NilClass"
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<Mon_Ouie> Oh, right, it should be |(id, carta), output|
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<Mon_Ouie> (because your element is actually an array. They get implicitly destructured, which makes it more confusing)
<barraponto> and the block returns the object after the iterations, which saves me another line. great.
<barraponto> thanks a lot
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<k-man_> what kind of construct is the "points: points" bit here: https://github.com/Shopify/dashing/blob/master/templates/project/jobs/convergence.rb#L13
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<k-man_> trying to understand how I can send my own data to that widget
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<Mon_Ouie> This is an alternative syntax for hash whose keys are symbols
<Mon_Ouie> {foo: "bar"} is the same as {:foo => "bar"}
<Mon_Ouie> And if the last argument to a method is a hash literal, you can drop the curly braces
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<k-man_> oh ok
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<seraph> good day all
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<r0bgleeson> Mon_Ouie: what about the first ;p
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<k-man_> Mon_Ouie, ok, so i'm still not getting it. the firts "points" is the name of a hash? and the second one is the name of a hash?
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<sevenseacat> k-man_: {points: points} is the same as {:points => points}
<k-man_> what is :points though?
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<sevenseacat> :points is a symbol.
<apeiros> >> :points.class
<eval-in> apeiros => Symbol (https://eval.in/37312)
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<Mon_Ouie> :points is a key and points is the value for that key in the hash
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<k-man_> ah, ok
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<r0bgleeson> syntax
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<k-man_> thanks for your help
<r0bgleeson> do string literals call String#initialize
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<apeiros> r0bgleeson: no
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<apeiros> I think no literal invokes #initialize
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<r0bgleeson> yeah rails would have a field day
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<r0bgleeson> do you know the reasoning apeiros
<r0bgleeson> performance..
<apeiros> I'd assume performance
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<r0bgleeson> another objectspace
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<maloik> Anyone happen to know how to use Thor with subcommands? The homepage gives an example using git remote, but it's not completely clear to me how the classes are invoked
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<AzizLight> Hi everybody
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<keeguon> hey guys I have a weird problem w/ bundler when I do the following: "$ jruby -S bundle check" I get this: "The Gemfile's dependencies are satisfied" but when I try this: "jruby -S bundle exec rake -T" it tells me: "Your Ruby engine is ruby, but your Gemfile specified jruby", I have tried various things with my Gemfile and currently it looks like this: https://gist.github.com/Keeguon/fdfcdb8bbd2827cc9c1d if any of you guys has
<keeguon> an idea that would be great
<AzizLight> for some reason, when I install a gem, it only installs the ri documentation, not the rdoc. Anybody knows why please?
<sebastianb> AzizLight: maybe you have something in your .gemrc?
<sebastianb> something like --no-rdoc
<AzizLight> sebastianb: I deleted my .gemrc
<AzizLight> should I reopen a new terminal as well?
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<sebastianb> you can try that
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<AzizLight> ok will do, I will also try to add --rdoc in my .gemrc file
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<AzizLight> sebastianb: anyway, thanks ;)
<sebastianb> if you want rdoc only for some specific gem you can try the 'gem rdoc gem-name' command
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<AzizLight> sebastianb: I tried that, but it still only installs the ri docs (oddly)
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<AzizLight> is there a way to generate documentation using yard but for installed gems?
<waxjar> AzizLight: what does gem environment say?
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<AzizLight> waxjar: http://pastie.org/8133919
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<waxjar> hmm, based on that i'd say it should generate the rdocs :/
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<waxjar> try adding install: --rdoc \n update: --rdoc to your .gemrc maybe
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<AzizLight> waxjar: nope...
<sebastianb> AzizLight: try gem rdoc gem-name --no-ri
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<waxjar> ah, i see, you have to use --document [TYPES] now
<AzizLight> sebastianb: already tried that ;) I think it's an rvm issue. I am running rvm docs generate now
<sebastianb> alrighty
<sebastianb> good luck
<AzizLight> sebastianb: thanks a lot ;)
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<AzizLight> I think the rvm command I ran did the trick
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<AzizLight> good to know
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<jlebrech> what's the quickest way to create a gem with rspec and simplecov?
<jlebrech> jewler seems out of date
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<elaptics> jlebrech: bundler has a command to create gems
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<jlebrech> elaptics: is that the hola gem?
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<elaptics> jlebrech: no, just bundler itself
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<jlebrech> elaptics: does it have any options for rspec and simplecov inclusion?
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<elaptics> jlebrech: no, but they're trivial to add
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<elaptics> jlebrech: yep, that screencast is about it
<jlebrech> elaptics: i had problems with simplecov when doing it the manual way with my last gem
<elaptics> jlebrech: it's easy to specify gem dependencies in your gems
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<jlebrech> yeah ill do that.
<elaptics> jlebrech: in your gemspec it should be as simple as adding rspec and simplecov as development dependencies
<jlebrech> the issues i had were with the configs
<elaptics> that railscasts shows it for rspec, should just be the same for simplecov
<jlebrech> missing files
<jlebrech> i'll give it another go
<jlebrech> i don't really need simplecov for this gem
<jlebrech> thanks
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<jlebrech> can you use sinatra from within rspec? for example i want to test oauth
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<seriously_random> how do I use calculate method: http://pastie.org/8134072
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<seriously_random> never mind, got it: "calculate(1 + 2)" or "calculate(1 - 2)"
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<enricostn> hi, is there a way to tell sprintf('%20s', 'string') to count the 20 chars from the start of the line instead of counting from the point it's invoked?
<enricostn> It could be useful to print tabular data
<ChristianS> enricostn: no, you'll have to do that yourself
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<enricostn> ChristianS, hi, thanks! any hint?
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<jlebrech> is there a quick way to convert "a" => {"b" => "b", "c" => "c"} to "a_b" => "b", "a_c" => "c" ?
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<apeiros> jlebrech: Hash[] + map
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<Hanmac1> apeiros: you should stay inside when it rains like hell : http://25.media.tumblr.com/ffb3b9c01209ff8ee2a558b36a11bfa9/tumblr_mknmykoVMo1r2y7r9o1_500.gif
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<banister`sleep> anyone here program haskell?
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<banister`sleep> hanmac1: check out this insanity http://showterm.io/47f46234281cf2c25f44a#fast
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<Hanmac1> banister`sleep: so where is the interactive ruby console that works like bash? we are all waiting about
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<banisterfiend> hanmac1: not interested in writing that :) zsh does a better job
<banisterfiend> the scripting language isn't that important IMO
<banisterfiend> i hardly ever write zsh scripts, it's more the UI that's important
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<banisterfiend> and what the hell is interesting about recreating a shell UI
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<apeiros> hanmac1: interesting kind of rain…
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<avril14th> Hello, is there a memory IO class in ruby?
<avril14th> I'm lookinf for something similar to File
<avril14th> except with no File :)
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<mstksg> avril14th: do you want something persistent?
<avril14th> no
<Hanmac1> avril14th: use StringIO
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<avril14th> I can pass it binary data?
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<avril14th> doesn't have to be interepreted as string?
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<avril14th> hmm, StringIO isn't an IO
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<Hanmac1> avril14th: no but it looks like an IO
<avril14th> ok let's try it
<Hanmac1> and you can still pass everything into it
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<avril14th> I have a gem interface expecting "traditionaly" an opened File as arg to which it will read some stuffs
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<avril14th> trying to see if I can give it something else
<Hanmac1> ah, then that gem it to dump
<avril14th> pardon me?
<avril14th> don't get what you jsut said sorry
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<Hanmac1> normaly the gem should check if its an instance of IO, or does look like an IO (have a write method), thats what called "ducktyping"
<avril14th> ok
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<avril14th> I'm going to places I don't know here
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<avril14th> on one side I have a pdf generator (Prawn gem) and on the other I have a Fog gem to access remote storages
<avril14th> trying to see if I can't just write straight pdfs to remote location
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<avril14th> Not even sure if that's a good idea, but looks fun
<Hanmac1> you can use "tempfile"
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<avril14th> ok let me check this too :)
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<avril14th> hmm, looks good
<avril14th> will try to go this way
<avril14th> thx hanmac1
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<jlebrech> how do I iterate through one dimension in a multidimensional array?
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<Nakilon> [14:24:25] <enricostn> hi, is there a way to tell sprintf('%20s', 'string') to count the 20 chars from the start of the line instead of counting from the point it's invoked?
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<Nakilon> sprintf('\r%20s', 'string') ?
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<apeiros> jlebrech: there is no such thing as a multidimensional array. there's only nested arrays.
<apeiros> you iterate the same as through any other array: #each or any of its derivatives.
<Nakilon> jlebrech u may find useful to .transpose it
<apeiros> Nakilon: '\r' == "\r", I assume you meant " instead of '
<Nakilon> sure
<Nakilon> hm sprintf prints into string, not console, so it doesn't make sense
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<jlebrech> apeiros, Nakilon: Hash[nested_array] :P
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<Nakilon> jlebrech, idk what does it give
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<jlebrech> Nakilon: It was a nested array like [["Banana","banana"]["Orange","orange"]]
<jlebrech> missed a ,
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<jlebrech> Hash[] made it into hashes :)
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<Nakilon> so?
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<peter_ss> hi guys do you think it's possible to do a request with itmss:// protocol that apple provided?
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<apeiros> peter_ss: if you know the protocol, sure
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<peter_ss> i'm trying out to automate the gifting process of apple store
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<peter_ss> https://buy.itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZFinance.woa/wa/giftSongsWizard?salableAdamId=479662730&productType=C this open itunes so I'm thinking of how to parase the request and do a login
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<asteve> so what's the proper way to format a line that's over 80 chars and has an unless? "this_thing = Some.incredibly.long.method(with_params[:bunch_of_junk]) unless with_params[:how_do_I_format_this].exist?"
<mjc_> asteve: if the line does one thing maybe it's fine long, it indicates that it's complex
<asteve> mjc_: I like to keep my lines no longer than 80 chars
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<mjc_> asteve: after years of feeling like long lines were evil I realized that many rubyists use long lines to say "here be dragons"
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<mjc_> asteve: you can use \ or break up at the . I'm pretty sure though
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<asteve> mjc_: I like to keep my dragons no larger than komodo
<asteve> :)
<mjc_> asteve: :)
<ghr> I think you can just drop down to the new line after unless (perhaps even before)
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<asteve> right but would be the most visibly understanding? unless then \n and 2 indented spaces?
<asteve> or bring the unless with it?
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<asteve> ya
<asteve> ok, that's the best idea I think
<asteve> thanks
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<ghr> You might wonder if you can break up said incredibly long method though :D
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<ericwood> break up with the method
<asteve> I could create intermediary vars to store some of it but that's just adding junk
<ericwood> "it's not you, it's me"
<mjc_> ericwood: :D
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<ghr> Yeah ymmv. Don't know the full context of it
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<axl_> is there a way I can write a 'require' for a gem but print a message to stdout if the file is not found ?
<hoelzro> wrap it in a begin/rescue?
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<axl_> ok sounds good. do you know off hand what exception i look for ?
<alcoder> installed r2.0.0-p247, via source compilation, is there a way to know what all features of ruby got disabled, as it didn't find the library ? eg: Readline / Libedit wasn't found, i had to parse hard to find why history never worked with irb. It there an option to see disabled features?
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<hoelzro> >> require 'somethingthatprobablydoesntexist'
<eval-in> hoelzro => (https://eval.in/37342)
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<hoelzro> heh
<axl_> hoelzro: :)
<axl_> thanks
* terrellt was hoping that was going to be true.
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<alcoder> hoelzro: i mean the configure summery or compilation summery
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<alcoder> eg: gstreamer configure script list, list of codecs that will be build, and that was excluded
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<alcoder> due to failed dependency
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<axl_> is there a way i can install a gem that is not submitted to rubygems but exists on github without using bundler but using the 'gem install' command ? ?
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<terrellt> axl_: Yeah, just do what bundler and rubygems does. Pull the repo down, gem build GEMNAME.gemspec, gem install gemname-version.gem
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<axl_> terrellt: thanks
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<ghr> Why might rbenv install not be available for root, but is available to vagrant after using a vagrant shell provision with http://pastie.org/8134889
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<ziggles> hey guys... What's the best way to "take over" a dead gem? Basically i've used a gem that is no longer maintained by the owner, i've forked it... made changes, submitted pull requests etc...
<Nakilon> trying to fit into 80 chars is like trying to lose weight to 40kg
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<Nakilon> totally pointless
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<terrellt> Nakilon: *Disagrees* If I have to scroll right then my productivity has just gone way down.
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<waxjar> ziggles, if the original maintainer doesnt respond to anything the only thing you can really do is release a fork i think :(
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<Nakilon> your productivity goes down if your IDE sucks so much, that cna't wrap words
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<ziggles> waxjar: thanks for responding. i've been asking around in other channels and it seems like that's the general consensus
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<Nakilon> also ur productivity goes down if you have 2 inch display
<Nakilon> also if it doesn't have macintosh font smoothing
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<Nakilon> both cases point that you are using some useless ssh or linux - so your productivity is already determined to be low
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<waxjar> the 80 chars / line thing helps with readability
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<james_woods> Hi. I have problems installing mysql2 via bundler. I get this error: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16657304/mysql-h-is-missing-ruby-on-rails-osx - and I have mysql installed via homebrew and tried to fix the flags as suggested there, but with no luck. The error remains.. has anyone an idea how to solve this?
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<Sou|cutter> james_woods: I had this problem recently
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<Sou|cutter> I think I had to downgrade my mysql installation
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<Sou|cutter> james_woods: I pinned my mysql to 5.6.10
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<james_woods> Sou|cutter: thank you!!
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<james_woods> Sou|cutter: thank you really much. I thought I was going crazy about this
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<james_woods> Sou|cutter: it works
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<Sou|cutter> james_woods: glad to help. Happy hacking :)
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<MarcWeber> Is there any example how to use ffi and (int* x) pointers?
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<MarcWeber> FFI::MemoryPointer.new(:int) -> write_int read_int
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<thebope> Hi, how exactly does the left shift operator work on hashes in Ruby? I've got "hash = Hash.new([])" which means undefined keys should return an empty array, but then running 'hash[:one] << "uno", hash[:two] << "dos"', and then "hash[:one]" I receive ["uno", "dos"] and I receive the same output for hash[:two] and even hash[:three] which is undefined
<thebope> Does the left shift operator on a hash append to the default value?
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<thebope> creating a new hash and then left shifting a value in results in an error
<thebope> undefined method for hash
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<fryguy> thebope: you'll have to show a full code example
<thebope> okay, one moment
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<waxjar> << is simply the name of a method, it isn't an operator, so it depends on the object stored in hash[:one] what << will do :)
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<waxjar> for Arrays it simply adds the element you pass it to the Array
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<waxjar> the problem you're having is because you pass it an Array object, which will be the same for every undefined key. you can pass Hash.new a block i believe to generate a new Array object each time.
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<br0tat0chip> so I'm looking for a way to get the mime-type for a file or url. is there a gem for this? filemagic wont work
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<fryguy> br0tat0chip: try googling next time
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<br0tat0chip> fryguy: no i found that. but it wont take a file and output a mimetype, will it?
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<thebope> for some reason gisthub wouldn't let me paste
<fryguy> thebope: use Array, not []
<br0tat0chip> type_for. that's what i want.
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<fryguy> thebope: [] is an instance of an array, so it will be copied for each one
<thebope> waxjar: ahh, I think I understand but I'm a little confused. How come if I use << on hash[:one] it appends to the default object?
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<fryguy> thebope: err, nope
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<thebope> fryguy: ?
<waxjar> thebope: the default value will be the same object for each key
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<thebope> yes
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<thebope> so hash[:three] originally returns []
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<thebope> as would be expected
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<thebope> but after running hash[:one] << "uno", then hash[:three] returns ["uno"]
<thebope> which is what I'm finding a little confusing
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<waxjar> yes, it returns the object you passed to Hash.new
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<fryguy> thebope: it's the default value for ALL things
<waxjar> when you do hash[:one] << "uno", it appends uno to that object
<fryguy> thebope: pass a block to new instead
<thebope> this isn't actually like a coding error I need to resolve I'm just curious to understand what is going on behind the scenes, the ruby koans are a cool way to learn ruby
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<thebope> waxjar: and it doesn't append it specifically to the symbol :uno, but to the object which is being referenced as the default value
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<momomomomo> thebope: Simple
<momomomomo> Type hash[:one].object_id; hash[:two].object_id
<momomomomo> is it the same? Then the hash symbols are both pointing to the same object
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<thebope> momomomomo: it must be, but trying now
<momomomomo> new_hash = Hash.new; new_hash[:one] = []; new_hash[:two] = []; produces two different objects in memory
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<momomomomo> Hash.new([]) instantiates every new hash key with the object_id reference of that initial array
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<thebope> what I don't understand is why it would be pointing to the same object, shouldn't appending to the symbol :one create an object with key :one and value ["uno"], and then similarly for hash[:two]?
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<thebope> momomomomo: yes
<thebope> ahhh okay
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<momomomomo> It's good to use, say, if you want to create a hash with a default value of an array
<momomomomo> so that if you want to do blanket functions on all keys, but want to ensure that each value is at least an array - not nil
<thebope> so hash[:uno] has been initialized to be that empty array and pushing into it affects all the objects which reference that array which is every key possible since that is the default value
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<momomomomo> I'm sure there are tons of other uses for that functionality too
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<codemannew> is there a visual studio visual basic channel because im having question in my console application code
<momomomomo> thebope: Think of Hash.new([]) as creating one single array, which all keys, declared or not, point to initially
<waxjar> thebope: a hash is just a data structure that links one object (the key) with another object (the value) and allows you to look up values by their keys
<momomomomo> codemannew: search in your IRC client
<platzhirsch> What's this syntax... class: 'test' ? I thought instead of => you could use : as well, but this seems to be wrong
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<thebope> momomomomo: Ahh, I think I've got it
<codemannew> im having trouble with my code in visual basic i was wondering if someone can help me
<waxjar> it doesn't do anything with the :one Symbol, that's just what it uses as the key
<codemannew> okay momom
<terrellt> platzhirsch: That's ruby 1.9 hash syntax.
<thebope> yes
<momomomomo> codemannew: This is a ruby channel
<codemannew> i been trying but im not sure whats it under
<platzhirsch> terrellt: but {5: 3} does not work
<platzhirsch> unexpected ':', expecting =>
<codemannew> yes im asking here to get to the channel
<thebope> to push into the symbol :uno and have it affect what :uno references alone one must create a specific array referenced by :uno and then shift into it
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<momomomomo> You got it
<momomomomo> that can be done by hash[:uno] = []
<waxjar> platzhirsch: key: value is short for :key => value
<thebope> when you shift into :uno without first explicitly declaring :uno to be its own array it pushes into the array :uno references which is the default value which affects every key's array
<platzhirsch> waxjar: aahhhh :)
<thebope> thanks waxjar and momomomomo
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<platzhirsch> and since numbers are represented by :"5" it cannot be parsed like this
<momomomomo> no problem thebope
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<platzhirsch> ok got it, I failed to understand this because out of laziness I always chose key numbers
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<havenwood> Curious for any feedback on whether this is a solid encryption approach for AES with a password: https://github.com/havenwood/encrypt/blob/master/lib/encrypt.rb
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<C0C0> Hey, I'm looking for a parsergenerator which has a decent performance
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<C0C0> I'm currently using whittle but it eats about 99.5% of the time in the entire round trip from ruby to gdb and back again
<havenwood> An amateur encryption gem using Ruby 2.0 experimental refinements. :O If that doesn't make someone's head explode dunno what will. >.> https://github.com/havenwood/encrypt
<C0C0> I have used treetop in the past but found it quite anoying because it would reorder the grammar in ways that broke the ASTs
<C0C0> havent used it since 2011 or so though
<havenwood> not head explode in a good way...
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<havenwood> C0C0: How bout racc?
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<C0C0> hmm havent looked into it, but seemed quit archaic and unfriendly
<havenwood> C0C0: yeah, looks old
<C0C0> looks a lot like yacc as well
<C0C0> and I found working with yacc to be quite frustrating
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<havenwood> oh..
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<C0C0> thats a parser for ruby right?
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<C0C0> I'm looking into parsing GDB-MI which is like the fucked up retarded annoying little brother of json with an additional few ugly heads
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<havenwood> C0C0: sounds frightning!
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<C0C0> havenwood: if you ever think about reinventing JSON
<C0C0> DON'T please dont
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<C0C0> allow for keys in your arrays
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<C0C0> but if you do
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<C0C0> don't make them non uniq
<C0C0> if you query gdb for the list of breakpoints via the machine interface
<havenwood> C0C0: MessagePack seems pretty nice: http://msgpack.org
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<havenwood> as a serialization format, i mean
<C0C0> it will answer with [bkpt = {some object representing a breakpoint}, bkpt = {..}, bkpt = {} ]
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<C0C0> havenwood: well unfortunately I'm bound to whatever ugly mutant the gdb developers came up with
<havenwood> ah
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<mansi> Hello, is there a way to see the list of supported i18n locales in ruby?
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<brotatos> what does the ? operand do?
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<jarin> brotatos: it's the ternary conditional operator
<r0bglees0n> brotatos: in what xontext
<r0bglees0n> context
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<jarin> brotatos: if @person.direction == "Arriving" ? "Hello" : "Goodbye"
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<jarin> oops take out the if
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<brotatos> r0bglees0n: git_part = location == 'origin' ? ... : ...
<r0bglees0n> it is ternary (?:)
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<thebope> Why does "Name:"[/(\w+)/] return "Name", and "Name: Gray"[/(\w+)/] return name, but "Name: Gray, James][/(\w+), (\w+)/] returns "Gray, James", and not "Name Gray"? and "Name: Gray"[/(\w+), (\w+)/] return nil? I'm having trouble finding out exactly the meaning of a comma in a regular expression
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<thebope> I figure it is something to do with the :, but a comma after Gray doesn't seem as if it would be in the word class
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<thebope> since "Gray,"[/(\w+)/] returns just "Gray"
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<ChristianS> thebope: /,/ just matches itself, it's not a special char in a regex
<thebope> ChristianS: Ahh, it all makes sense now
<thebope> thanks
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<nettoweb> I have and event that has a 'start_at' and 'end_at' date… how I check if it fit in Today, cause I'd like to list by: today, 'in this week', 'in this month'
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<waxjar> ((Date.today - 1)..(Date.today + 1)).include? Date.today
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<terrellt> nettoweb: Gotta classify "today" - midnight will ruin your life.
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<horrror> I create array of hashes with h = {name: "name", rank: 123 }. When I dynamically add a new entry of hash to the array, I want to make sure that if the "name" is already in the array I should increase the rank value
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<interactionjaxsn> h[:rank] = h.has_value?('name') ? = h[:rank] + 1 : h[:rank]
<interactionjaxsn> guessing
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<Morrolan> interactionjaxsn: That could be simplified to `h[:rank] += 1 if h.has_value?('name')`, but I am not sure whether that is exactly what horrror wants.
<horrror> Actaully I meant that if value isn't there push to the array a new hash else increase rank
<Morrolan> Is there a specific reason that you need an array of hashes, and not just one big hash of the form { 'name1' => 123, 'name2' => 456 } ?
<Morrolan> Respectively something like { 'name1' => { :rank => 1, :foo => 'bar' }, ... } if you need to store more than just a rank.
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<interactionjaxsn> Morrolan: i like that.
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<interactionjaxsn> Morrolan: and from there you can do h.fetch('name1'){ do_something_if_not_found }
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<Morrolan> Mhm. Setting the hash's default value might work even better, depending on horrror's usecase.
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<horrror> Morrolan: nice, used the first solution
<horrror> setting default value; can u provide an example?
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<Morrolan> >> hsh = Hash.new(0); puts hsh['foo']
<eval-in> Morrolan => 0 ... (https://eval.in/37358)
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<Morrolan> One thing which you should watch out for is that, when specifying the default value like this, the *same* object which you pass it as an argument will get used for any subsequent calls to undefined values. With mutable objects this might, err, be undesired.
<Morrolan> >> hsh = Hash.new([]); hsh['foo'] << 'Hello There'; puts hsh['bar']
<eval-in> Morrolan => Hello There ... (https://eval.in/37359)
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<Morrolan> For such cases, Hash's constructor can be given a block, which will be executed once for each kall to an undefined key.
<Morrolan> >> hsh = Hash.new { [] }; hsh['foo'] << 'Hello There'; puts hsh['bar']
<eval-in> Morrolan => nil (https://eval.in/37361)
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<Morrolan> s/kall/call/
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<graft> hey, anyone ever play around with a good bitvector gem?
<graft> i found the 'bitarray' gem on github but it seems to not have much in the way of features
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<Squarepy> can you link that
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<Squarepy> what is your usecase?
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<graft> i used to use these in perl all the time for dealing with genomic intervals
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<graft> you can easily do intersections between intervals using chromosomes represented as bitvectors
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<Squarepy> interesting graft
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<Squarepy> what features are you looking for?
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<graft> eh, being able to turn on a range of bits at a time
<graft> being able to do and, or, not, on two bitvectors
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<Squarepy> k
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<jkline> when I say foo = Array(bar) what function am I calling?
<jkline> It is not the same as Array.new(bar) for example
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<Squarepy> graft, setting a range is done by [1..3].each etc. so not directly I guess
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<pietr0> jkline: Kernel::Array()
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<jkline> pietr0: ah. ok. Is that the recommended way to cast in ruby? For example, I have a new class Slimey::Widget and I want to be able to say Slimey::Widget("foo")
<jkline> sounds like I need to have module Slimey; def Widget() … end ; end
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<pietr0> not really, Array() is provided by the language to makes things easir for users like '[]' or '{}'
<Squarepy> cast?
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<graft> man, ruby never impresses me with the range of available gems whenever i want to do something mathy
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<MarcWeber> graft: Well, then use python.
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<MarcWeber> graft: Maybe talk about what you want to do, then people have a chance to help you.
<jkline> Squarepy: cast as in type conversion. For example, if I had def foo=(new_val); @foo = Float(new_val); end I would be casting all the arguments to ensure they were Float type
<jkline> I can also do that with Array
<graft> MarcWeber: i have been
<jkline> I have two questions. 1. How do I do that with my own classes? 2. How do I store the type Array, or Float, in a variable and call the function later?
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<aedorn> Probably because Ruby isn't considered fast enough for most intense mathematical operations when there's better tools for those out there (and why some people have opted to include extensions/calls out to other languages for it like R)
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<graft> the ruby R extensions are also pretty crappy
<MarcWeber> jkline: I don't understand your quesntion. Try to write some code and paste it to dpaste.com, then talk about what you expect, and what you get.
<Squarepy> ^^
<MarcWeber> graft: I didn't even cope with rake, finally implemented github.com/MarcWeber/rumake ..
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<Squarepy> I agree on the python call
<MarcWeber> Squarepy: Well - he should talk what i wants to do ..
<graft> jkline: Casting isn't magic - most types have a casting function (e.g. to_f for floats) if it's possible. For your own classes, you have to write your own casting function
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<Squarepy> MarcWeber, he wants a richer bitarray gem
<graft> I can't just jump to python, i already have a huge amount of code written in ruby
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<MarcWeber> bitarray? Should'nt take long to use FFI, memory pointer and some || operations to get it?
<MarcWeber> Or use C/asm to access bits ..
<MarcWeber> bit array != math
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<graft> well, yes, obviously, i can write my own bitvector code, but the point is that i have to do that instead of just using someone else's library
<Squarepy> it has scientific usecases MarcWeber
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<MarcWeber> graft: Which interface do you expect?
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<MarcWeber> Again - which requirements do you have?
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<graft> MarcWeber: something like the perl Bit::Vector one
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<MarcWeber> graft: To do what?
<Squarepy> read back
<Squarepy> ha
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<MarcWeber> Squarepy: You mean your wild guess "scientific use cases" ?
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<graft> MarcWeber: scroll back a little further. i said i wanted to use it to represent genomic intervals on chromosomes
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<MarcWeber> graft Can't you just write bindings to existing C libraries?
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<graft> ...
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<MarcWeber> graft: How long do you expect your app to run - how heavy is the computation?
<MarcWeber> How much data is involved?
<MarcWeber> In which way is ruby involved in "processing" the data?
<MarcWeber> Otherwise you could just write that part in another language, and pass the data to that other applacation.
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<aedorn> eh.. I'd cheat and would use a Ruby-Python bridge and use the Genomic* classes
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<aedorn> Although it wouldn't take much to rewrite it all in pure Ruby for just that. Meh.
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<Squarepy> or python
<Squarepy> ha
<Squarepy> sry
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<aedorn> On the flip side, it's probably long past due to get more scientific methods into Ruby directly.
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<Squarepy> yeah like a numeric array
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<graft> is there a project to do this already? I'd love to contribute to that sort of repository
<Squarepy> do what?
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<jkline> graft, MarcWeber, Squarepy, pietr0 http://dpaste.com/1296170/
<jkline> I hope that clarifies things
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<jkline> I realize that on line 24 I am calling new. I tried without that as well, did not seem to wor
<jkline> k
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<Squarepy> isn't string converting an object usually done through implicit attribute like inspect? (not an expert but similar to __repr__ in python
<graft> to get more scientific methods into Ruby, e.g. make some genomic intervals classes, or just general utilities like interval trees, bitvectors, etc.
<Squarepy> good question
<Squarepy> http://sciruby.com/ seems you missed the google summer code
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<graft> jkline: that made things muddier.
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<graft> Squarepy: ah nice... now i just wait a few years
<Squarepy> :)
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<aedorn> years? hmmm... well, I guess they are purely focusing on NMatrix for now. If there was a way to get every Ruby developer in the world to write a single line of code, it'd be done in a day. Then we could test it for a few years instead.
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<aedorn> Obviously impossible wishful thinking there.
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<graft> guh, who's going to handle the git merge for that monstrosity?
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<jkline> graft: let me try to explain. I can run a = Array(b) and now a is an instance of class Array
<jkline> I want to say type = Array. a = type(b) and have a be an instance of class Array
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<Squarepy> aedorn, why not wrap numpy :)
<graft> jkline: yes, but this is just a wrapper for a = b.to_a
<Squarepy> with its C-apo
<Squarepy> api
<jkline> graft: so what you are saying is I need type = to_a a = b.send(type) ?
<jkline> and then invent all my own to_foo for my class Foo?
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<aedorn> Squarepy: Way too easy.
<Squarepy> :)
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<graft> jkline: if you want class Bar to be cast to class Foo, then you should probably define Bar#to_foo, yes
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<Squarepy> sounds right
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<jkline> graft: Now I am even more confused, neither "foo".to_a nor "foo".to_ary are defined
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<jkline> so how can Array("foo") be the same as those?
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<Squarepy> jkline, the casting is done by a function f.i. Float() that could call object.to_f internally and return the result
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<Squarepy> imho
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<jkline> Squarepy: I don't know what that means
<jkline> what is "f.i." ?
<Squarepy> for instance fyi :P
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<jkline> Squarepy: oh. Yes. So you're saying that Kernel::Floar(foo) is implemented by calling foo.to_f
<jkline> I agree
<Squarepy> and there was much rejoice
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<jkline> I just wish I understood how to make that happen with metaprogramming. I have a class with dozens of attributes
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<Squarepy> well their parent class should implement the right to_something
<Squarepy> class of classes
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<utdemir> Hi. Ruby first timer here. I have a string like "21 342 41 ..." so, why does this code doesn't convert it to list of ints? s.split.each { |i| i.to_i }
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<ccooke> utdemir: because each doesn't care what your code returns
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<utdemir> oh, .map worked
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<utdemir> thanks
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<ccooke> utdemir: each just does something for each, then returns the object it ran on
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<utdemir> ccooke: thank you. cool.
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<Bubodlack> hi all
<Squarepy> <.>
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<havenwood> helloooo
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<aedorn> bonjour
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