<digitalcake>
is there a way to have rvm set the system's ruby verison? #!/usr/bin/ruby is pointing to 1.8 in osx even though rvm is set up correctly and has a different default.
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<digitalcake>
nm
<bnagy>
if you're about to do a 'system' rvm install you really want to reconsider imho
<bnagy>
but using env instead of hardcoded ruby bin path will work with a normal rvm install
<bnagy>
#!/usr/bin/env ruby
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<mike4_>
how can i spoof my ip inside ruby?
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<bnagy>
build the packet, drop it onto the wire at layer 2
<bnagy>
you can get to a raw socket via Socket
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<sam113101>
guys, sinatra vs padrino?
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<Andrevan>
sinatra
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<shevy>
I have never heard of padrino
<sam113101>
amazing, you've just discovered a new web framework
<sam113101>
because of me ;p
<shevy>
existensil what do you like about OptionParse?
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<zets>
isn't padrino just built on top of sinatra core
<shevy>
sam113101 yeah but there could be 100000 more, the thing is to find *good* ones
<Andrevan>
padrino has serializers in it right
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<Andrevan>
it's like sinatra for making a web service API
<Andrevan>
what are you doing?
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<Andrevan>
anyway, start with sinatra and you can add the padrino modules one by one if you need them
<sam113101>
really?
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<dEPz>
is there any library/gem similar to CanCan for rails but more general? So I could define that calling some method is only possible if some conditions are met?
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<funburn>
dEPz, might ask over in #rubyonrails
<dEPz>
I want a general gem not necesarily for rails
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<funburn>
I think I would try to write this as a before_filter
<dEPz>
I'm sick of writing if something.state = "done" && current_user.role = "somerole" ....
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<dEPz>
In general that is. Maybe I should just seperate that piece of code somehow? No sure.
<funburn>
sounds like a perfect excuse to write a method to do it for you, or a class
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<shevy>
problem with the question is
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<shevy>
only those who know CanCan can answer it
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<shevy>
otherwise one could always write a custom method to return logic flow... run_cleanup_tasks if all_conditions_are_met?
<Ninjex>
I didn't see much use of classes in my code
<shevy>
it's more like a procedural style of coding you use
<Ninjex>
Where would they come in handy?
<Ninjex>
Right
<shevy>
Rbot.new( :host => 'freenode.net' )
<shevy>
if you want to make use of it from other projects
<Ninjex>
How is that any more efficient?
<Ninjex>
Oh okay
<shevy>
it is easier to reuse
<shevy>
take the: def main(chan, nick, name)
<shevy>
this seems to be defined on Object without any namespace
<shevy>
so if another method with the same name resides there, you overwrote it
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<shevy>
if 100 different people do the same, this makes using reusable ruby code not easily possible
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<shevy>
most of the time it is best to put it into a namespace, like a module or class
<shevy>
module Rbot; def main
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<shevy>
well
<shevy>
in this example it would not work because you use @instance_variables
<Ninjex>
Okay, so if I want to publish it for use for more people it's best to do something like classes
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<shevy>
yes
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<Ninjex>
That all makes sense
<shevy>
are you sure you are new to programming?
<shevy>
you already organized your code in ways no newcomer would
<shevy>
:P
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<Ninjex>
I seem to be getting that a lot lately. I have insomnia and stay up programming, hacking, etc, etc. I learned nearly 10 languages in this year and a half 0.o A lot of people call me a liar but I'm fine with that
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<workmad3>
Ninjex: that just depends on what you call 'learned a language' ;)
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<Ninjex>
I also get that too workmad3
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<Ninjex>
Basically my other code is as good as the ruby code above, I'm a bit more proficient at PHP though
<shevy>
Ninjex well ok... thing is, a real newbie would not have any idea how to organize code, and you made a directory called functions/ and organized it inside of it
<workmad3>
Ninjex: incidentally... having been learning for 18 months, that means you're no longer a newcomer
<shevy>
yeah
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<shevy>
you are a newbie version 1.2 at worst :P
<Ninjex>
shevy: I took up learning Haskell and it made me think a lot differently on how I program
<shevy>
someone on #gobolinux once told me that haskell may be too difficult for me
<Ninjex>
Okay, I didn't say a noob just new(ish)
<shevy>
he was right :(
<workmad3>
Ninjex: especially if you've been really immersed in it (which it sounds like you are)
<Ninjex>
I'll take that though
<Ninjex>
Thanks :D
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<Ninjex>
Have you guys done any project euler challenges? I pass a lot of time on there
<workmad3>
I've done some
<Ninjex>
Awesome
<workmad3>
I'm not brilliant at them though... I don't have the patience for that sort of maths :)
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<Ninjex>
Yeah, it does get old after a while, but it still makes you think a lot. I just enjoy a good challenge.
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<Ninjex>
I completed one challenge for a site where I had to take a picture, analyse the pixels and reverse patterns with a decoder
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<Ninjex>
That was probably the most interesting challenge so far
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<Ninjex>
shevy: thanks for the review - I'll be back later on; getting tired
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<Catbuntu>
hi
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<apeiros>
dachi: eh, yeah… that person sounds like a troll, though. and that's why he got 13 downvotes too…
<Catbuntu>
what's wrong with Python?
<blackratdog>
a python is a dangerous snake, but a ruby is a precious jewel ;-)
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<Catbuntu>
Ok let's be honest Python is pointless.
<Catbuntu>
"Code is beautiful, easy to read." So is Ruby's, Perl's, C++'s and Java's if you write it well.
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<Catbuntu>
Why the heck are there no access limits on Python? A variable with a leading _ only means "don't touch this" but you can touch it if you're a rebel.
<Catbuntu>
lol
<Catbuntu>
is there a "private" modifier in Ruby?
<Catbuntu>
oh and also Python's package management sucks haha
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<apeiros>
Catbuntu: yes, see Module#private
<apeiros>
it's more of an advice, though. easily circumvented
<apeiros>
(and IMO that's ok - no need to handhold coders)
<Catbuntu>
yeah I know
<Catbuntu>
Now Debian is being annoying because GNOME Shell performs ugly with nvidia drivers :(
* Catbuntu
is thinking about switching to another distro
<dachi>
is debian as a server better than ubuntu 12 ?
<dachi>
i've got ubuntu on my server
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<dachi>
apeiros hi :) i finally solved my issues that u helped me with, switched and tweaked selenium-webdirver instad of using net-http
<apeiros>
ok
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<shevy>
Catbuntu use python or ruby, perl 5 is outdated compared to both
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<shevy>
Catbuntu code can always be difficult to read
<shevy>
thing is for the same logic, perl code is by far the least readable among those three
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<vineavip>
Hello Folks! I need your advice with a Sinatra application. I have never approached thing like that and I'd love someone to help me understand how to do It. Specifically, I have a Sinatra App, where at some point external server posts to one of my routes with some data. I would like to process It and push to user who is at a different route, as soon as I get that post req.
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<Catbuntu>
I'm about to install elementary OS.
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<Catbuntu>
But i'm lazy to set everything up *sigh*
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<vineavip>
In my scenario user gives input to my server A then I process it and send to the server X. After some time (like two minutes) server X calls server A on a different route with some data. I would like to push info from X server's callback to user.
<shevy>
Catbuntu I use ruby to initialize everything I need on a new set up
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<shevy>
and currently yaml file for configuration... but need to change that as yaml forces me into UTF
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<vineavip>
Am I on the wrong channel to ask for that kind of advice?
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<existensil>
vineavip: sounds like maybe the post to your app from Server X should be stored somewhere, maybe a session, and be sent to the user on the next request. then the user's browser just needs to maybe do an ajax poll every few seconds while waiting for that data.
<existensil>
conceptually much easier than doing actual push to the user. that is possible too, but involves either long polling or web sockets or something probably
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<vineavip>
existensil: do you think this is a good idea when there are different kinds of responses with varying time (from 30secs to 5 mins)?
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<existensil>
vineavip: i don't know the specifics so don't know how appropriate that is, but its a common approach for sure
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<existensil>
you could also not bother pushing anything to the user and just wait for them to refresh or load the next page or something. i don't know your app though.
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<vineavip>
existensil: the app is nothing fancy so this approach should work, but I have another newbie question: I don't think I can store in session data from interaction with server X, not with client A. Is database only option?
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<shevy>
vineavip dunno, I am not using sinatra and dont do much web stuff save for .cgi, there is a #sinatra channel though
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<existensil>
vineavip: there are almost limitless ways you can store data. database is a common one, but maybe for the size and frequency of the data you could even get a way with a file, or maybe mongo or redis or some other store.
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<avril14th>
OK, I know it's cyphered language, but if you can understand, please answer: What is the discovered_api(???,'v3') to load when using google api gem in order to access gmail contacts?
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<shevy>
wat
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<existensil>
lol waxjar_
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<dp>
I'm trying to use Brett Terpstra's Slogger, but it's complaining that "No such file or directory - uuidgen". Where would I find this?
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<\du>
hello! i am totally new in ruby, actually i am using it to create chef recipe ( opscode.com ), i should do a simple task that maybe will carry me an hour of research, i have a directory with files /20130821_foo.sql /20130991_foo.sql.. etc.. that is data_name.sql the name always is the same and the date change, i need get the name of the latest file
<\du>
for sure there is a simple way to do it in ruby, somebody can help me or give some advice from where to search?
<\du>
thanks
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<sweeper>
greetings. in the context of http://two.mongoid.org/docs/querying/scopes.html , what are those calls to scope and field called? like are they class attributes, class method calls on Mongoid::Documet, or what?
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<lewiz>
Hi guys - is there a way to resume a "gem install" after I've made some changes to the Makefile? I think this is a native gem...
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<atmosx>
jesus, how much time for a conventional computer to factor 1.000.000 primes?
<apeiros>
depends a lot on how efficient you implemented it
<workmad3>
sweeper: they're method calls on the class
<workmad3>
sweeper: that style is frequently called a 'class macro' though
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<sweeper>
workmad3: mappen to have an idea how I would call those macros after the class has been loaded? like if at runtime I wanted to add some scopes
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<sweeper>
oh hmm
<sweeper>
this may have worked...
<sweeper>
har, it did, wewt
<workmad3>
sweeper: this is ruby... it's all runtime
<workmad3>
sweeper: so just re-open the class ;)
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<sweeper>
my main issue was the where clause, I could call User.scope, but the where clause needed to be User.where(), not just where()
<sweeper>
got it now tho \o
<shevy>
penis
<shevy>
damn... wrong channel
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<sweeper>
workmad3: thanks \o
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<hurrrtin>
Hey all, I could use some clarification on something. I've been working with Ruby for several years now, but something has always eluded me.
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<hurrrtin>
class << self; self; end... If I understand it like I think I do, this simply makes instance.self return the singleton name of the class instead of the super. Is that right?
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<hurrrtin>
or, the name of the singleton class/instance rather
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<apeiros>
hurrrtin: it itself returns the singleton class
<apeiros>
hurrrtin: before `sc = obj.singleton_class` (which came with 1.9), `sc = (class << obj; self; end)` was the way to get the singleton class.
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<hurrrtin>
apeiros: So it's just for referential correctness; not necessarily of any operating usefulness right?
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<hurrrtin>
but this: `sc = (class << obj; self; end)` is different than `class << self; self; end`. Same function?
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<TIJ>
sdlkjf
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<apeiros>
hurrrtin: you said you did ruby for a couple of years, so I thought you'd understand an lvar assignment…
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<apeiros>
hurrrtin: the construct had useful applications. the singleton class is an object and this way you can reference it.
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<apeiros>
though, most who actually needed it would just define the adequate of todays Object#singleton_class using this construct, and then enjoy the nicer code.
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<hurrrtin>
apeiros: I do... I dunno why that particular snippet gives me such a hard time. I've never used it.
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<hurrrtin>
Well in a nutshell, I think I have it.
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<hurrrtin>
or get it.
<hurrrtin>
I guess moreover, I'm curious why that's necessary at all. Except in a case, say like with activerecord, and you do something like `obj = find_by_foo_thing` and then obj.class returns FooThing
<hurrrtin>
instead of ActiveRecord or what have you
<apeiros>
I don't see the relation there
<apeiros>
you do understand/know what the singleton class of an object is?
<hurrrtin>
Because the finder would create a singleton
<hurrrtin>
Yes
<apeiros>
AR finders would not create singleton classes, no
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<apeiros>
no point in doing that
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<hurrrtin>
Ok, so if I make a class, and then mixin a singleton in that instance, the instance.class would be the singleton name or the super? The super right?
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<apeiros>
you can not mixin a singleton
<workmad3>
hurrrtin: huh?
<apeiros>
a singleton class is a *class*
<hurrrtin>
K then I don't get it lol
<apeiros>
you can't mixin classes.
<hurrrtin>
Oh right
<hurrrtin>
right
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<ericwood>
I'll mixin whatever I damn well please
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<apeiros>
a singleton class is a class which "sits" between an object and it's "real" class
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<apeiros>
x = "foo"; x.class # => String -- but x can have a singleton class
<hurrrtin>
Unique to an instance of the real class tho, no?
<hurrrtin>
^ right
<apeiros>
def x.my_own_method; "weeee!"; end
<apeiros>
this method is stored in the singleton class
<workmad3>
hurrrtin: each object has its own singleton class, yes
<waxjar_>
you can mix in the Singleton module tho, to make a class a Singleton
<apeiros>
and as of 1.9, you can do: `x.singleton_class` to get at that class
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<workmad3>
waxjar_: yes, but Singleton is nothing to do with this sort of singleton_class ;)
<apeiros>
>> x = "foo"; def x.weee; "weeee!"; end; x.singleton_class.instance_methods
<apeiros>
what's a "global-like class"? and most likely: no, about the opposite
<apeiros>
a singleton-class belongs to *exactly* one object
<hurrrtin>
Ok I'm with you there.
<hurrrtin>
Ok but so then, in laymans terms, what does class << self; self; end do? I know that it is defining a singleton for this instance, but I can't imagine why this is necessary.
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<gener1c>
will String.tr ever change to String.translate?
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<apeiros>
hurrrtin: it's not *defining*, it's *returning* it
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<gener1c>
i have lived a lie all this time and used .gsub("\w",hash) till i found out about tr
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<apeiros>
and in layman terms as I already said: exactly what Object#singleton_class does since 1.9
<hurrrtin>
Wouldn't obj.class do the same exact thing then?
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<workmad3>
hurrrtin: no
<apeiros>
hurrrtin: also, it's NOT a singleton. it's a singleton CLASS
<apeiros>
big difference
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<hurrrtin>
OHHHHHHH
<apeiros>
hurrrtin: "".class # => String
<workmad3>
hurrrtin: an object's singleton class is distinct from the object's class
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<apeiros>
String does NOT belong *exactly* to one object
<apeiros>
it belongs to all strings
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<apeiros>
so totally not the same
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<workmad3>
>> a = ""; a.class == a.singleton_class
<hurrrtin>
askhader: sudo apt-get install libjson-dev (or something like that)
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<apeiros>
askhader: not related to bundler. your problem is to install the gem itself.
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<apeiros>
try a plain `gem install -v1.7.7 json`
<apeiros>
I wouldn't wonder if it was an issue with you using ruby 1.8 (which is A *ancient* and B no longer supported)
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<apeiros>
alternatively it might be what hurrrtin said - missing headers/libs
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<Catbuntu>
boo
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<stef1a>
does anyone know if there's a regex difference 2.0.0p195 and 2.0.0p247?
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<apeiros>
stef1a: shouldn't. what's the cause for the question?
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<apeiros>
oh, and if "somebody" knows, then the CHANGELOG
<mzdravkov>
Have anyone here used sequel orm
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<apeiros>
mzdravkov: don't ask metaquestions.
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<stef1a>
apeiros: production uses 247, local uses 195, and the regex that causes certain items to be underlined (with html span tags) works locally doesn't work in production
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<stef1a>
can't view the logs atm (which i'm trying to figure out how to do), but i can see the results
<apeiros>
(well, you're free to - but it's to your own disadvantage)
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<apeiros>
stef1a: ok, interesting. tried running it locally with 247?
<mzdravkov>
Ok, sorry: My question is how can I check if there is such database when connecting to some db (I can use db = Sequel.connect(...); db.tables and catch the exception, but isn't there some better way)
<stef1a>
apeiros: nope!
<apeiros>
mzdravkov: iirc Sequel has db.exists?
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<apeiros>
mzdravkov: check the docs on it, e.g. on rdoc.info or locally via ri/yri
<apeiros>
or `gem server`
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<Morrolan>
s/gem/yard/
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<Morrolan>
Unless gem's server serves documentation, too?
<apeiros>
stef1a: well, I guess that's what I'd do. if you can switch locally between 247 and 195 (should be easy with rvm or similar) and the behavior changes, then it's reasonable to assume it's due to the ruby version
<apeiros>
Morrolan: it does
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<Morrolan>
Heh, I see.
<apeiros>
did for >7y now ;-)
<apeiros>
but yes, yard server too, I guess
<apeiros>
I really need a 'canned answers'-bot
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<pontiki>
o/
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<Morrolan>
By the time I started using a local documentation server, I've already moved to yard. (Weak defense, I know, I know :P)
<Morrolan>
And yes, bots which provide certain factoids are a great help in some channels. :)
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<apeiros>
acceptable reason IMO :)
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* apeiros
commutes
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<DaniG2k>
sup guys
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<utkarsh>
I don't suppose the ISO standard of Ruby is available for free anywhere?
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<stef1a>
Does anyone know why this regex script might work in 2.0.0p195 (local, GUI) but not 2.0.0p247 (remote server, no GUI)? http://pastie.org/pastes/8311174/text
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<Morrolan>
stef1a: Could you reproduce it locally?
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<stef1a>
Morrolan: it works in p195 locally but i'm not planning to re-install rvm and go through the process of getting all my gems, etc. for p247
<Morrolan>
How's that an issue?
<stef1a>
Morrolan: ?
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<stef1a>
Morrolan: my remote uses p247
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<Morrolan>
I'm unsure about how Ruby is handling regex under the hood. But it might be a good idea to make sure it's an issue of Ruby, and not of the environment.
<stef1a>
the script works locally but does not work remotely
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<stef1a>
Morrolan: i suspect it might be due to root path, actually.
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<diegoviola>
how do i get odd/even numbers from an array, like (1..100).select{|x| x % 2 == 0} #=> i get par from this, but why do i get odd/even when i divide that by 3?
<diegoviola>
sorry for the n00b question
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<Morrolan>
Because multiples of 3 can be odd as well as even?
<Morrolan>
3 is odd, 6 is even, 9 is odd, 12 is even, ...
<diegoviola>
right
<diegoviola>
so
<apeiros>
diegoviola: hu? what?
<diegoviola>
what is that == 0 at the end of it?
<Morrolan>
diegoviola: What exactly are you trying to do? :)
<Morrolan>
Hmm, are you familiar with modulo operations?
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<apeiros>
it compares the result of (x % 2) with zero
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<catdog123>
diegoviola: you could do (1..100).select { |x| x.even? }
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* pontiki
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<diegoviola>
just want to get the odd numbers out of the array
<diegoviola>
thanks
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<catdog123>
(1..100).select { |x| x.odd? }
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<diegoviola>
thanks
<apeiros>
I think by "out" he meant "removed"
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<apeiros>
ambiguous phrasing, though
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<diegoviola>
yeah
<diegoviola>
sorry about that
<catdog123>
ah ha. gotcha!
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<sam113101>
can I generate a gemfile?
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<pontiki>
from what?
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<sam113101>
from a bunch of .rb files
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<sam113101>
something that would check teh requires and check if it's a gem
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<sam113101>
because I just "gem install" them and forget
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<Morrolan>
What in cases where there's more than one gem which provides the files you require?
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<pontiki>
and what about cases where you need a specific version
<Morrolan>
In addition I don't think there's there a convenient way to find out which gems provide which files. You'd have to have a copy of all gems locally.
<sam113101>
I'd edit the generated gemfile manually
<pontiki>
anyway, i'm all for writing tools that let one engage in their laziness
<pontiki>
so if you come up with one, awesome
<Morrolan>
I'd probably just `ls` my local gem directory, and look what's in there. :)
<sam113101>
pontiki: so I take it there's nothing that does what I want currently?
<pontiki>
sam, you can google and grep as well as anyone else
<waxjar_>
don't gemsets solve the problem?
<pontiki>
i don't know of one, and i'm not going to go look
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<pontiki>
no, waxjar_ -- gemsets use the Gemfile, they don't create it
<cout>
morrolan: correct, esp since some files are generated, and there's no way to know from a given gem spec what files will be generated
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<sam113101>
love you guys
<waxjar_>
a gemset is a set of gems, which you can just upload with the rest of your app
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<pontiki>
waxjar_: true, but sam113101's request is for something to create a Gemfile
<cout>
maybe I didn't scroll back far enough to understand the original question
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<Morrolan>
cout: Create a gemfile based on the `require`s in your code.
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<cout>
I thought the seattlerb guys had something to do that
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<cout>
I just use globs in my gemfile
<cout>
spec file I mean
<cout>
ok I still misunderstood the question
<pontiki>
the .gemspec file? yeah, different than Gemfile, I think...
<cout>
now I understand
<pontiki>
for sam113101's question
<pontiki>
idk
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<askhader>
Can I control what version of ruby is run with bundler?
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<existensil>
askhader: I don't think so
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<pontiki>
no, you can control what version can be run
<apeiros>
askhader: with newer gemfile version you can
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<existensil>
really? awesome
<apeiros>
common way to do it is to use a .ruby-version file, though
<pontiki>
but you control which version *is* run
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<existensil>
yeah, i use .ruby-version+.ruby-gemset
<askhader>
What's the syntax for that look like?
<apeiros>
oh, well, details. true - askhader - you can only require a ruby version
<apeiros>
you can't make it automatically be run with that ruby version
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<existensil>
if rvm you can just generate one: rvm rvmrc create 2.0.0@my_gemset --ruby-version
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<workmad3>
you can put 'ruby "2.0.0" ' in the Gemfile (since bundler 1.2, iirc), but yeah, that just exits out if a different ruby version is in use, it doesn't switch to said ruby version
<apeiros>
a .ruby-version file paired with a ruby version manager which interprets it however will enable automatic switching.
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<apeiros>
askhader: laugh hysterically and run around with your arms waving?
<Eiam>
damnit redis
<Eiam>
y u no love me
<apeiros>
askhader: depends, I think one case where memory usage goes high is dependency resolution. try to narrow down required versions and specify that in the gemfile
<askhader>
Capitol idea!
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<tafryn>
I'm running into a weird problem with libxml-ruby. One of the populated nodes in my xml file returns "" when I attempt to read it's contents with xmlReader.node.content. However, xmlReader.expand.content correctly shows the contents of the node. Also, after running xmlReader.expand.content, xmlReader.node.content starts working. Does anyone know what might be causing this?
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<bricker`work>
I'm using `rand(36**10).to_s(36)` to generate a random string - however, I would like to mix in some capital letters (this method only produces lower-case letters) - what would be the best way to achieve this?
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<platzhirsch>
I want to run group_by on an array, where the grouping attribute is an array of groups. This has the result that a key will be an array of groups, but what I want is that the strings of these groups are used as a key (resulting in duplicate values of course). Any idea how I can resolve this?
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<Morrolan>
Do you, ahum, have sample inputs and outputs? :P
<Morrolan>
Maybe it's just me, but I can't really follow you.
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<Morrolan>
If you want to keep the original groups inside the resulting arrays for each group_by'd key, there's some more work involved, I think.
<ibiwan>
good morning. I'm trying to get an install of Dashing running (just the basic sample) and it seems like the best way to go about that is via rbenv. I have rbenv installed, but it's not using the ~/.rbenv shim for "gem" so I'm getting permissions errors when I try to install and run gems
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<ibiwan>
$ rbenv which gem: /usr/bin/gem $which gem: /home/vagrant/.rbenv/shims/gem
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<ibiwan>
I've already run rbenv rehash, no change.
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<platzhirsch>
Morrolan: yes, thought so
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<Morrolan>
Storing the original groups somewhere (e.g. in a hash, using the input's ID as key) should allow to look them up after the group_by is done.
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<apeiros>
dear god
<apeiros>
use proper classes
* Morrolan
snrks
<apeiros>
it doesn't hurt, I promise!
<Morrolan>
It's probably time to do that. :P
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<Morrolan>
But it's hard to resist a chance to chain a few high-level functions. ;)
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<platzhirsch>
yep, total obfuscation to the win
<Guest1432>
Hello! What is the fastest solution to integrate MongoDB to Sinatra app so that I can store a json directly (not as a string, preserving the structure)??
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<Morrolan>
JSON *is* a string.
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<Hanmac>
banisterfiend: what do you think about "Gravity Falls" did you watch it?
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<Guest1432>
Morrolan: I know but I was inprecise. I want to recognise this string as a JSON in particular. That's why I want to store It as a Mongo Document
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<Guest1432>
I'd love to have no schema, because the data I will be inputing will be various
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<goodcodeguy>
Guest1432: using the mongodb gem it should be as simple as selecting the collection and just using coll.insert(json_string)
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<eka>
goodcodeguy: I was just saying that instead of a json_object, you pass a hash instead?
<Morrolan>
banisterfiend: Heh, nice.
<eka>
banisterfiend: you need any plugin or that comes with pry?
<banisterfiend>
eka need to install the 'jist' gem
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<banisterfiend>
eka but pry will tell u do that when you try to 'gist'
<eka>
banisterfiend: nice to know… thanks
<Hanmac>
banisterfiend: did you watch "Gravity Falls" yet?
<banisterfiend>
hanmac no u
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<Hanmac>
banisterfiend: you should watch it … and i warn you from the triangle ,P
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<goodcodeguy>
eka: you're right :)
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<banisterfiend>
hanmac why a triangle po
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<Hanmac>
banisterfiend: thats a secret :P i want you to watch it so i say something mystic to get your attention ;P
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<banisterfiend>
hanmac are you flirting with me?
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<atmosx>
banisterfiend: are you wearing a bra?
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<Hanmac>
;P
<atmosx>
does that suppose to mean "Yes, I do honey!" ?
<banisterfiend>
atmosx buy more expensive binoculars and answer it yourself po
<atmosx>
banisterfiend: I'm Greek, I have no money whatsoever.
<eka>
what 'po' stands for?
<atmosx>
banisterfiend: hence, new binocolous is not option.
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<banisterfiend>
eka the red teletubbie
<eka>
the what? where? which?
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<hashpuppy>
going blank... how can i convert a Hash of String -> List to a Hash of String -> String, where I get the first element of each list (assuming there will always be one)
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<eka>
hanmac: so at 30fps you want me to look at 1200 frames?
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<shevy>
I want more ruby
<shevy>
more sexy ruby
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<atmosx>
hail shevy
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<shevy>
hey atmosx are you at university again?
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<Hanmac>
eka, ok the picture you need to see is not in this opening, but in the episodes … you will notice what imean ;P
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<platzhirsch1>
Morrolan: Chaining up higher-level functions is always pretty, it nearly feels like you are a great functional programming expert,... nearly.... ._.
<eka>
hanmac: found another source… dding faster
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<atmosx>
shevy: yes
<atmosx>
I passed analytical chem II and phytochemistry
<atmosx>
and pharmacology I
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<atmosx>
it's going okay.
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<shevy>
cool
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<atmosx>
yeap
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<atmosx>
I'm off to bed
<atmosx>
nighty
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<sweeper>
so you're studying to be walter white, basically?
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<onewheelskyward>
I had a coworker tell me they majored in chem in college so they could make LSD.
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<onewheelskyward>
He then wrote the chemical composition of it on the whiteboard from memory.
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<xybre>
Man I've known or heard of lots of people like that.
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<Hanmac>
i may remember the formulars for nuclear fusion, that does not mean i can combine atoms with my fingers ;P
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<xybre>
You can't? I thought everyone could do that.
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<onewheelskyward>
I just did it.
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<Andrevan>
you can't make LSD very easily since it has controlled precursors
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<dbugger>
Hi guys. Im trying to install a project on an Ubuntu system, but when I do "bundle install" I meet this error. Can someone help me please solve it? http://paste.laravel.com/PyM
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<bean>
dbugger: oh right, you need the "dev" package for whatever ruby version you have
<bean>
apt-get install ruby1.8-dev
<bean>
etc
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<dbugger>
bean, also installed
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<bean>
dbugger: are you're sure its the right one for the ruby version you're using?
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<dbugger>
bean, good call. Im using 1.9.3p194
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<bean>
so you probably need ruby1.9-dev
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<dbugger>
bean, the problem is that the only package available is 1.9.1-dev
<dbugger>
will that work?
<bean>
should
<dbugger>
even if one is 19.3 and the other 1.9.1?
<bean>
1.9.1-dev is just a meta package that refers to the 1.9 line of ruby on ubuntu
<bean>
its dumb but thats how it works
<dbugger>
Ok, ill try<
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<MrZYX>
1.9.1 is the ABI version of the 1.9 series
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<dbugger>
What is ABI?
<bean>
^
<bean>
Application Binary Interface
<dbugger>
I see. I am running the install. Fingers crossed
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<dbugger>
Wonderful! You guys rock!
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<bean>
np
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<dbugger>
Thanks guys
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<Flashmasterson1>
how do i register an rvm nickname/username?
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<oseifrimpong>
hello guys
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<oseifrimpong>
hello guys
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<volty>
hi, a simple tone generator ?
<MrZYX>
mmh, sox?
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<volty>
MrZYX: thx, now looking at it, i remember i was generating data and writing to /dev/psp (or /dev/audio) but 1) no direct access now to those devices 2) can't remember in what lang i was doing that
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<MrZYX>
sox is virtually everywhere installed, so it might be a good fit
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<eldios>
mm yes getc works though it requires Enter
<eldios>
I think I'll need the io/console
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<eldios>
let's try again with that
<eldios>
works
<eldios>
thanks guys ^_^
<eldios>
thanks havenwood
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<shevy>
wheee
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<Collin>
Keeping in mind that I'm not very good at Ruby: I have a native extension with a function 'encode' takes a block, which should return a string of data to be encoded. The block will be called over and over, until the Ruby code alerts that there is no more data to encode. Is a block the right thing to use here?
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<shevy>
huh
<shevy>
havenwood, when using this with cursor keys, subsequent calls to STDIN.getch seem to get the last char
<shevy>
like arrow up:
<shevy>
"\e"
<shevy>
"["
<shevy>
"A"
<shevy>
very strange, as if it is silently buffered somewhere
<shevy>
Collin why not use an argument to a method?
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<shevy>
where from comes input
<Collin>
Anywhere
<shevy>
no, I mean in your case
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<Collin>
I have no case, it's a library. I just need the Ruby code to provide something I can call to get the next piece of data.
<shevy>
if you put that code you just showed for ruby to evaluate, it would fail
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<Collin>
Probably, I don't write Ruby :(
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<shevy>
yes, I assume in your code you have a class or module called Encode
<shevy>
and a method to it called encode
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<Collin>
Yes, I have a module Encoder and a method encode
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<shevy>
but in the example you gave, I have no idea what the "input." is
<volty>
so the problem is how to call the passed block
<Collin>
I can call the passed block from native code, but I'm wondering if a block for this is un-Ruby-like
<shevy>
ok, the code would not fail
<shevy>
but it would not be evaled
<Collin>
Or if there is something that makes more sense
<seoNinjaWarrior>
I'm making changes to a file i required in IRB. Is there a way to reload it so I don't' have to close out of IRB, reopen, and require again?
<shevy>
Collin every method in ruby optionally accepts a block
<havenwood>
seoNinjaWarrior: Pry is great for such things: http://pryrepl.org/
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<shevy>
in your example, you do not seem to eval your block Collin
<shevy>
seoNinjaWarrior you could do: load 'foo.rb' where foo.rb is the name
<shevy>
or you can define a bunch of extra methods in your .irbrc file
<volty>
shevy: input doesn't matter, he needs to call the block and get back what it returns (a stream)
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<shevy>
volty ok from where does he get input?
<volty>
can block be called from c?
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<Collin>
Yes, I can yield from C
<shevy>
most likely, there must be a method that does it
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<volty>
{ myarray.next(30) } { source[0..200] }
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<volty>
whatever, he needs to return an array ov values to c
<Collin>
But my primary question is 'Does using a block like this to get the next piece of input make sense to a Ruby programmer?'
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<shevy>
to me your code makes no sense
<volty>
for me it makes sense, given that you return the "input" in a proper structure for the c part to handle
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<shevy>
2 people, 2 different replies ;)
<shevy>
beware of the time when you ask 2 people and get 5 replies
<onewheelskyward>
That's a low average for #ruby
<volty>
:) i like his approach
<shevy>
most are probably idling to power here
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<shevy>
one day we will crack the 1000 idlers here
<Collin>
Alright, I'll stick with this, then
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<shevy>
#perl is at 650
<shevy>
#python at 1297 ... :(
<Collin>
I was just afraid using something like the IO (is that what it's called?) object would be more Ruby-like
<volty>
Collin: it's perfect if you can implement it well, quite universal
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<volty>
you can call whatever IO (and ELSE) from you block - more universal
<volty>
just implement it this way and (think and) change later
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<shevy>
hehe
<shevy>
I like that you put the part think in ()
<volty>
a case: let's say you have another extension where the input comes from ... ok? with that block you can adjust the output on-the-fly, otherwise you have to implement an IO object
<shevy>
you see Collin, you should sometimes (think) too
<volty>
ahah
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<volty>
no no, implement block, and later an io TOO - the best, for the best, for both of us :)
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<volty>
another argument in favor of block is : STEP BY STEP (chi va piano va sano e va lontano - italian)
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<Collin>
Ah, I just ran into a problem, that being that I actually need to pass two blocks
<volty>
what's the sense of idling beyond being a measure of respective language idlers ? :)
<Collin>
One to retrieve data from Ruby, and one to pass processed data back to Ruby
<Collin>
It's not possible to give two blocks, is it?
<volty>
yes, it is
<MrZYX>
not two blocks, but you can pass two procs or a block and a proc
<volty>
def (params, &b1, &b2)
<volty>
MrZYX is more precise
<Collin>
I see, so &b1 and &b2 are procs
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<MrZYX>
that's just a syntax error, no matter if defining or calling a method
<volty>
collin, how about only a block with a param signaling if input / ouput ?
<Collin>
I could also do that, if it makes sense
<MrZYX>
when defining it &b captures a block as proc, when calling &b passes a proc as block
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<shevy>
oh man
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<MrZYX>
I'd say do a class, store both procs inside it
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<Collin>
Hm, seems I can't get procs in native code
<Collin>
I guess I'll have to go with a block with an in/out flag, regardless
<MrZYX>
then you can have an API like encoder = Encoder.new; encoder.input do stuff; end; encoder.output do stuff; end; encoder.do_it_already
<MrZYX>
and also accept the procs as argument to initialize etc
<MrZYX>
an in out flag just makes the calling code unreadable as hell
<MrZYX>
even requiring the caller to subclass would be a better option IMO
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<volty>
case in; when :in ...; when :out ... end // - let him refactor after - make sure all is running properly - maybe he leaves that block (with in/out) as a choice
<volty>
i like blocks! God, i like them!
<volty>
:)
<Collin>
Is a proc actually a class?
<Collin>
I see a Proc class, but I'm not sure if that's what you guys are talking about
<Collin>
Er, an instance of a class
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<jezen>
hey guys, first night of playing with ruby
<MrZYX>
pretty much everything in ruby is an object, thus has a class, but that's not what I'm referring to
<MrZYX>
I'm saying you should make your API a class, not only a single method
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<jezen>
when creating a file, I know I can do f = File.new('filename.ext', 'w')
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<jezen>
but why can’t I do f = File.new('dir/filename.ext', 'w')?
<volty>
jezen: good for you :)
<volty>
jezen: probably because there' s no such a 'dir'
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<MrZYX>
jezen: what exception are you getting?
<jezen>
the directory already exists
<volty>
or you have no rights there
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<pontiki>
can you create the file outside of ruby?
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<pontiki>
touch dir/filename.ext
<jezen>
I have rights to the directory
<jezen>
I can create it manually
<jezen>
I don’t get an exception at runtime
<pontiki>
then there is no reason you can't do it with ruby
<jezen>
hmm
<jezen>
:/
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<MrZYX>
everybody, why do let him get away with not showing the exception? ;)
<pontiki>
if you paste *real* code, maybe someone can help
<volty>
jezen: check your wd
<jezen>
MrZYX: There is no exception thrown :)
<jezen>
I think I’ve realised the problem
<volty>
(first night with ruby .... and risking to remain virgin ....)
<jezen>
my ruby code is ok
<MrZYX>
then "doesn't work" is a very bad problem description ;)
<jezen>
but Jekyll is removing the file after I’ve created it
<stewart_>
how does ruby determine the order of the array returned by Module.constants?
<jezen>
I’m trying to write a file generator for Jekyll
<volty>
maybe he just didn't run his script :)
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<jezen>
my script ran
<shevy>
stewart_ hmm good question... I would say most important entries come first
<pontiki>
good hacking
<Eiam>
hmm
<jezen>
as I said, it worked if I didn’t try running it in the subdir
<stewart_>
shevy: I am not sure about that because it seems to change from system to system
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<shevy>
hmm
<shevy>
my first entries are: [:Object, :Module, :Class, :BasicObject, :Kernel,
<Eiam>
is there a better way of mapping an object into a hash aside from Hash[[1,2,3,4].map {|a,b| [a,b]}] ?
<Eiam>
i dunno why I find myself doing this fairly regularly
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<pontiki>
each_cons(2), maybe, dunno if that's "better" or not
<Eiam>
or even just [1,2,3,4].map{|a,b| [a,b]}.flatten
<shevy>
Eiam you want to create {1=>nil, 2=>nil, 3=>nil, 4=>nil} ?
<Eiam>
shevy: no, [1=>2,3=>4]
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<shevy>
hmm but your code gave me this...
<Eiam>
[{1=>2},{3=>4}]
<shevy>
anyway
<shevy>
Hash[*1,2,3,4] # => {1=>2, 3=>4}
<shevy>
oh
<shevy>
in an array
<MrZYX>
I think you can save the splat
<stewart_>
shevy: so we have a namespace for all of our systems models however that list of models seems to return an a different order form system to system. These models are included via a script that loops all files in a folder… I wonder if constants are returned in the order that they where included in which would be determined by the order that ruby iterates over files in the original include script
<Eiam>
yeah, usually I've got an array, that i end up mapping then converting back into a Hash after a flatten or other weird stuff
<shevy>
[Hash[*1,2,3,4]] # => [{1=>2, 3=>4}]
<shevy>
oh yes
<Eiam>
whenever I start slamming down.blah.blah.blah i feel like I've gone wrong
<Eiam>
havenwood: not the greatest example but I am mutating the data first, but I am mutating it to put it into a hash
<shevy>
Eiam I realized that whenever possible I want to make the data structures as simple as possible... if only to make my brain have to work less hard
<Boohbah_>
how can i golf it down? :)
<Eiam>
it just so happens there doesn't seem to be a mutate into Hash
<Eiam>
like.. map hash
<volty>
stewart_: why do you feel need to wonder? something specific?