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<xybre>
No I don't know why they're all named after drugs.
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<frem>
question: I have a file called 'ftp-driver.rb' containing a class called FTPDriver. I'm in a pry terminal in the same directory, trying to require it. `require 'ftpdriver'` and `require 'ftp-driver'` don't work.
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<pontiki>
is it in your load path?
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<pontiki>
current directory isn't usually in your load path
<frem>
i guess it isn't then.
<pontiki>
you should be able to do `require './ftp-driver.rb'` or `require_relative './ftp-driver.rb'`
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<pontiki>
note if you want to be changing this file, you should load it instead of require it, so you can load it again
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<frem>
require './ftp-driver.rb' works. require_relative says it can't infer the base path
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<pontiki>
ok
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<xybre>
frem: require_relative?
<xybre>
Ah
<ryanf>
require_relative doesn't work from repls
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<ryanf>
by definition
<xybre>
Yeah, that won't work from pry..
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* xybre
is too slow
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<frem>
ugh. so now require works from pry, but not when i try to load the driver in em-ftpd.
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<shevy>
require_relative must die with a fire
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<shevy>
frem how about $LOAD_PATH << Dir.pwd does that work when you then load anything
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<pontiki>
frem: check it's on em-ftpd's load path then
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<onewheelskyward>
I rather like require_relative
<onewheelskyward>
especially for tests.
<pontiki>
i have never used it
<onewheelskyward>
wysiwyg
<frem>
I think I got it. Used `ruby -Ilib ftp-driver.rb`. :P
<pontiki>
that's such a lie
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<dalton_>
Is there a way to update rubygems for all versions in rvm to patch CVE-2013-4287? (blog.rubygems.org/2013/09/09/CVE-2013-4287.html)
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<pontiki>
yeaahhh....
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<pontiki>
but i'm not remembering it
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<pontiki>
pop over to #rvm and ask, maybe?
<dalton_>
thanks, I'll do that
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<ylluminate>
I'm using typhoeus to pull down a lot of data; probably about 50gb worth of data. i'm having a problem where i'm only getting about 1000 records per hour and it seems as though it is perhaps not using enough threads. does anyone know how to control the curl threads that are spawned by typhoeus in order to maximize threading?
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<bluebie>
is there any way to get a gamepad in to ruby on mac
<bluebie>
or joystick or something like that?
<bluebie>
there seem to be very few gems >_<
<Nilium>
You could use GLFW 3.
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<bluebie>
smart!
<bluebie>
thanks :D
* Nilium
wrote the Ruby bindings, so he gets to promote it.
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<bluebie>
Nilium: I can't get glfw3 to install with homebrew >_<
<bluebie>
why is joysticks so hard >_<
<Nilium>
Install it from source.
<bluebie>
rubygame doesn't work with ruby 2.0 either!
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<prometheanfire>
/part/win 19
<prometheanfire>
oops :D
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<banisterfiend>
bluebie gosu
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<bluebie>
banisterfiend: oh yes! :D
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<wallerdev>
funburn: like in terms of performance?, they both do the same thing, although it will have to call to_sym on "mark="
<funburn>
okay, that's what I thought
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<funburn>
I'm trying to go a little deeper with Ruby and understand a little more about what I'm doing, rather than just copy pasting all the time :)
<wallerdev>
cool :)
<funburn>
this is one where I couldn't quite tell if there was a performance difference
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<wallerdev>
you should write it using a symbol like send(:mark=, true)
<funburn>
okay, I actually had that in the gist, and changed it
<funburn>
because I thought it was wrong :)
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<funburn>
oh but I didn't have the =
<funburn>
that helps :)
<wallerdev>
yeah
<wallerdev>
haha
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<bricker`LA>
Okay - I fully understand the difference between && and "and", but I'm trying to think of a concrete example to showcase that difference. An example where using one or the other would produce an incorrect or unexpected result. Any ideas? Every example I think of can use the two interchangably
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<diegoviola>
i'm trying to debug some ruby code, i ported a script from rmagick to minimagick but it's not working properly and i'm trying to debug it to see where the issue is
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<diegoviola>
is there something like sh -x in ruby
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<diegoviola>
something to increment the verbose level or something like that, but during execution
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<jrobeson>
you could just a real debugger
<jrobeson>
perhaps pry and friends
<diegoviola>
thanks
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<pontiki>
diegoviola: there's the -d flag, but WHOBOY is it verbose
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<diegoviola>
thanks
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<buzzybron>
does anyone here use ruby not only for rails?
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<jrobeson>
buzzybron, lots of people do that
<arturg>
anyone here can help with getting capistrano to work on OS X?
<jrobeson>
buzzybron, i am writing a rails app, but i've written other plain ruby apps in the past
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<pontiki>
i've been using ruby for lots of non-railsy things
<pontiki>
and rails
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<davidcelis>
if you're writing rails, you're writing ruby
<davidcelis>
GET OVER IT, SHEEPLE
<pontiki>
eh?
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<pontiki>
anyway, i've kinda switched over from writing bash and perl scripts
<pontiki>
which is crazy
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<jrobeson>
davidcelis, i think the point is wondering whehter anybody who writes ruby is only using it rails
<sevenseacat>
lol
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<Wiz_KeeD>
hello everyone
<pontiki>
hello wiz
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<pontiki>
where do ppl come up with their nicks, anyway?
<davidcelis>
i wish people would stop caring about "rails vs. plain ruby"
<davidcelis>
pontiki: guess!
<pontiki>
pfft
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<pontiki>
tempest in a teapot
<Wiz_KeeD>
I have never ever worked with ruby in my life, I don't even know how to do a hello world, and I tried to install this application and got an error: http://pastebin.com/88EvrgUA
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<jrobeson>
pontiki, i've always wondered that for a nick like AntelopeSalad
<Wiz_KeeD>
Hope one of you knows the issue and would be kind enough to help
<pontiki>
well there you are then
<sevenseacat>
well when doing basic rails stuff you only get exposed to a very limited subset of ruby functionality
<jrobeson>
and yours pontiki , but you alreayd told us
<Wiz_KeeD>
Never had contact with the ruby community either :)
<sevenseacat>
and you dont even have to understand it to work withit
<apeiros>
davidcelis: if rails wasn't warping the laws of thermodynamics and gravity itself, sure
<davidcelis>
Wiz_KeeD: did you google the error?
<davidcelis>
Wiz_KeeD: "cannot load such file -- mkmf"
* pontiki
discovers that by minute and excrutiatingly careful adjustment of her whiskers, she can manipulate the fine structure constant
<davidcelis>
guarantee you if you search that, tons of people have answered it ;P
<pontiki>
and you talk about mere thermodynamics
<Wiz_KeeD>
davidcelis, in truth no i have not
<jrobeson>
hehe
<davidcelis>
mkmfdynamics
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<jrobeson>
and good day to you pontiki :)
<pontiki>
wiz: are you running windows?
<davidcelis>
pontiki: doubt it? they're using apt get
<Wiz_KeeD>
pontiki, hell no! :D
<pontiki>
that would have required me to look, wouldn't it
<Wiz_KeeD>
ubuntu 12.04
<pontiki>
the next thing is, have you installed build-essential, wiz?
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<akemrir>
hello, I want to handle data from app with pipe. But it gets first line and shut downs. Here is the script: https://gist.github.com/akemrir/6520375 . How can I make it work until I quit manually?
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<shevy>
badquanta cool, do you also write games in ruby?
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<badquanta>
shevy, I'm planning on doing just that.
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<gregj>
guys, I'm trying to use ruby with a project called calabash, but I get these errors - and since I never user ruby before - no idea how to resolve these: http://pastebin.com/V4AHtHEg
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<gregj>
looks like 1.8 that comes with osx 10.8 is not good enough for these things
<aagdbl>
@xyz is the syntax to access instance variables
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<aagdbl>
xyz = pqr will 1. check for a local variable xyz, and if not found, will check for a _method_ "self.xyz="
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<hoelzro>
I thought that xyz = pqr would *always* create a local variable
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<apeiros>
aagdbl: no
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<apeiros>
xyz = pqr will *always* assign to the lvar xyz
<hoelzro>
ok, good
<hoelzro>
I'm not carzy
<hoelzro>
or crazy
<apeiros>
it will *never* call self.xyz = pqr
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<apeiros>
you may still be crazy, let us determine that independently of this issue :-p
<apeiros>
aagdbl: there's a rationale behind that too - if it would call self.xyz=, you could never set a local variable (due to method_missing)
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<apeiros>
or if you'd implement it as Object#method_missing (last stage in the method call order) and have code there to set an lvar, then you'd sacrifice a shitload of performance
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<apeiros>
since *every time* you set an lvar, you'd traverse the full ancestry twice.
<apeiros>
method call alone is already heavy compared with lvar assign/read, but full traversing is even worse.
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<apeiros>
oh, and things like openstruct would be no end of fun :D
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<aagdbl>
hoelzro: apeiros: yes, correct. i was incorrect
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<workmad3>
aagdbl: you were correct for what 'pqr' would do on the rhs though ;) accessing 'pqr' would check for a local-var and then call self.xyz if not found
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<workmad3>
which can cause some 'awesome' annoyances... like 'a = a' (the local-var is created before the rest of the expression is evaluated)
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<billy_ran_away>
Here's where I need that method...
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<shevy>
a database
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<apeiros>
billy_ran_away: anyway, easy to implement. module Enumerable; def map_find; return enum_for(__method__) unless block_given?; each do |value| result = yield(value); return result if result; end; end; end
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<apeiros>
billy_ran_away: eeek. do that in the db, not in ruby.
<billy_ran_away>
apeiros: Not possible… not direct DB access.
<apeiros>
billy_ran_away: oh, API?
<apeiros>
web API
<billy_ran_away>
Yep
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<apeiros>
:-/
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<shevy>
billy_ran_away truthfully sometimes I am even too lazy (or I simply forget) that I asked something then look at an answer, there are just too many distractions for me to keep focused one but one thing
<Xeago>
can you attr_accessor within a method?
<Xeago>
doubt it
<billy_ran_away>
shevy: I've asked three times and got an answer once months later and by then I figured out a better alternative.
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<shevy>
hehehehe
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<shevy>
there is one thing I noticed on stackoverflow
<shevy>
given a question, and assume that two guys have answered, the answers may all suck... and the result then usually is that no more answers happen
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<shevy>
so it's like almost trying to force a user to ask again at a later time
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<shevy>
Xeago dont think so, the scope will probably not allow it
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<dAnjou>
hey, linux guy invading your comfort zone here. i'm struggling with setting up a development environment. there is actually just one issue: how do i tell "gem" to install gems in my $HOME directory?
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<apeiros>
dAnjou: simplest way: install ruby via rvm, then that's the default
<fearoffish>
or rbenv
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<fearoffish>
or chruby
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<apeiros>
otherwise I think guides.rubygems.org documents how you can configure rubygems
<MrZYX>
one should also note the --user-install option to gem install
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<dAnjou>
MrZYX: nice. i will use that
<dAnjou>
thanks
<dAnjou>
thanks to the others as well
<workmad3>
dAnjou: also, why is being a linux guy in any way invading our comfort zone? :)
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<shevy>
because you use OSX
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<Xeago>
I rather have a linux guy than a windows guy :\
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<MrZYX>
or a osx guy :P
<workmad3>
shevy: for dev sure... I've deployed onto ubuntu, centos and solaris though, and I'm fine working in ubuntu as well as OSX ;)
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<dAnjou>
workmad3: i was playing with a prejudice/cliche there ;)
<dAnjou>
no offense
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<workmad3>
dAnjou: I'm curious which one though ;)
<dAnjou>
ruby people are mac users
<workmad3>
fair enough :)
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* workmad3
can't quite escape that stereotype
<workmad3>
but if it helps... my screen is currently a full-screen 4-pane terminal with irssi, vim and two zsh prompts...
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<dachi>
hi everyone. do any of you know about any gem for command line that will produce a loading effect? something like \|/|\/ rotating symbols or similar please? thanks
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<waxjar_>
do; print "."; sleep 1; until done? :D
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<waxjar_>
avril14th, FirstChild / SecondChild and Someclass never interact?
<avril14th>
waxjar_: they have belongs_to has_many relations
<avril14th>
between SomeClass and base
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<avril14th>
it seems to be a race condition somewhere where some files don't get loaded do doing Base.descendants do not generate all the proper methods
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<avril14th>
This is painful, since I have a real lot of children classes
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<waxjar_>
what is Base#descendants supposed to return?
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<avril14th>
all the children classes of Base
<avril14th>
it's a Rails ActiveSupport class
<avril14th>
-class + module
<workmad3>
avril14th: err, do you mean ActiveRecord::Base ?
<workmad3>
avril14th: also, yes, rails in development mode does a lot of lazy code-loading
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<avril14th>
workmad3: but I still require all the files at the top so they should at least be loaded
<avril14th>
it's worse than that
<avril14th>
since you can call a method
<avril14th>
it's there
<avril14th>
then call again
<avril14th>
you get UndefinedMethod
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<workmad3>
avril14th: hmm, gonna need to see some code
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<workmad3>
avril14th: also, if this is rails code, you might want to join us in #rubyonrails ;)
<MrZYX>
well I guess your class gets reloaded by rails without base getting reloaded
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<MrZYX>
or SomeClass or whatever
<avril14th>
workmad3: I'm there, but it seems like a pure ruby mistake I'm doing here so I thought about posting here
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<avril14th>
I might be wrong though
<kraljev1>
Is it possible to write something like shorter?
<kraljev1>
obj = hash[:key]
<kraljev1>
obj.stop if obj
<workmad3>
avril14th: no idea, and won't until you post some code :P
<waxjar_>
the rails guys probably know a little more about the magic
<MrZYX>
avril14th: I'm pretty sure rails reloading code is hitting you here
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<kraljev1>
like
<avril14th>
MrZYX & workmad3: well you already gave hinmts, I'll try playing with the eager loading configuration of rails and see if it removes the behavior
<kraljev1>
hash[:key].?stop
<MrZYX>
kraljev1: not with standard ruby
<kraljev1>
jruby?
<workmad3>
avril14th: unless you turn on cache_classes in development mode, you're not going to change any behaviour there
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<workmad3>
avril14th: and if you turn that on, then you'll need to restart your rails server every single time you make a code change in order to see it...
<avril14th>
that's exactly what I wanted to do :)
<kraljev1>
hash[:key].stop rescue 0
<kraljev1>
what about this?
<MrZYX>
kraljev1: if you happen to be inside rails there's #try. You might be interested in fetch with a block or Hash#default and null objects
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<avril14th>
I just want to understand the issue and get sure it does not happen in production
<avril14th>
if I KNOW it's eager loading it's fine
<shevy>
that topic keeps on coming back over and over again
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<shevy>
apeiros, will halsbe 2.0 allow variables end with a "?"
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<workmad3>
I guess it's because in so many cases, local variables and method calls are pretty indistinguishable
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<shevy>
hmm
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<shevy>
why can't we use switches in .rb files to govern that behaviour? like in a comment:
<shevy>
# ::use_extended_variables
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<workmad3>
shevy: probably because the parser doesn't allow it
<shevy>
hmmm that makes sense
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<r0bglees0n>
workmad3: no more ambiguity than a local that shadows a method with the same name imo
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<matti>
gregj: Not for the wicked.
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<workmad3>
r0bglees0n: probably :)
<hanmac>
r0bglees0n: there is a funny thing that you can (with def) define a method inside a method, :P (its more funny if the methods does have the same name)
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<dAnjou>
now the obvious follow question after installing gems with --user-install: how do i add this directory to the path where ruby "requires" packages from?
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<dAnjou>
i need this because i'm deploying fcgi apps with apache
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<dAnjou>
or for apache
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<apeiros>
shevy: no
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<dAnjou>
Morrolan: not with apache. apache doesn't care.
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<Morrolan>
Why should apache care about 'require's in your Ruby script?
<Morrolan>
Ruby will load these files, not apache.
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<dAnjou>
well somehow i get this in apache's error log: /usr/lib/ruby/1.9.1/rubygems/custom_require.rb:36:in `require': cannot load such file -- sinatra (LoadError)
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<dAnjou>
it doesn't happen when i run the file as my user
<dAnjou>
directly
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<onewheelskyward>
That's because your ruby script is sending that to stderr and apache is intercepting the output.
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<hanmac>
dAnjou then maybe the gem is installed into the wrong dir ? isnt it that apache & its ruby is started from another user?
<onewheelskyward>
It also means that there's something different about how your code is being executed via apache than how you run it on the command line.
<dAnjou>
reverse proxy is no option for this setup, sadly
<dobry-den>
drugdiq: anyways, it's defining a << method so that you can update a score_keeper instance with score_keeper << 10, and it returns the updated instance.
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<dobry-den>
In fact, you can do score_keeper << 10 << 5 << 20 ie score_keeper.<<(10).<<(5).<<(20).average
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<dAnjou>
hanmac: but apache still doesn't care about the user's environment
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<havenwood>
Better to snake_case or headlessCamelCase JSON keys?
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<havenwood>
Well, MsgPack keys technically. Depend on apps using the JSON or is there a rationale for one true way? :P
<onewheelskyward>
I like snake case and that's good enough for me.
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<havenwood>
I think i'm gunna snake case cause its my preference too and if the Objective-C folk balk I'll point em to that study that shows snake case is more readable. :P
<BlakeRG>
there's no way to set a string key in a hash like this? notification_hash = { "alert": "foo" }
<MrZYX>
no, just {"alert" => "foo"}
<BlakeRG>
ugh, hah ok
<BlakeRG>
always getting JSON mixed up with that
<MrZYX>
you can mix the two forms btw: {"alert" => "foo", alert: "bar"}
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<MrZYX>
not that I'd recommend doing that... :P
<shevy>
MrZYX do you mix the two forms
<BlakeRG>
yes, but alert then would be a symbol with the alert: "bar" right?
<MrZYX>
shevy: not on a regular basis
<onewheelskyward>
I suspect there would also be an alert string with foo.
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<shevy>
BlakeRG that is very confusing to have two keys called "foo", and :foo in the same hash
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<MrZYX>
I had that list of language codes mapping to their native language names in new style hash form and needed to add a code with the the country code separated by dash and didn't care whether the key is a symbol or a string
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<MrZYX>
so I wasn't bored enough to convert the entire thing
<shevy>
hehehe
<BlakeRG>
{"alert" => "foo"} would be accessed as something['foo'] and {alert: "foo"} would be accessed as something[:foo] right?
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<shevy>
BlakeRG why would that work
<shevy>
BlakeRG you must pass a key with []
<MrZYX>
BlakeRG: yes
<BlakeRG>
sorry, something[:alert]
<shevy>
yeah
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<MrZYX>
oh, didn't even notice that :D
<shevy>
ruby trained me to look closely
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<MrZYX>
I got really sad when I discovered that I can't do {'foo-bar': 'baz'} to get {:'foo-bar' => 'baz'}
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<Lewix>
MrZYX: -)
<shevy>
I just dont use the foo: bar notation at all
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<havenwood>
Eiam: His example is a symbol like this: :"i too am a symbol"
<havenwood>
Eiam: And it doesn't work.
<Eiam>
MrZYX: yeah the second one was a mis-keystroke
<Eiam>
MrZYX: also I pity the fool that uses irb
<Eiam>
pry !
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<shevy>
irb works just fine and is available the moment you install ruby (unless you are on debian... I dont know if they remove irb by default or not)
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<havenwood>
`gem install pry` and a few seconds later a better repl emerges!
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<workmad3>
havenwood: 'gem install pry pry-debugger pry-stack_explorer pry-coolline' for even more betterness!
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<havenwood>
workmad3: what's the new pry step debugger called, i've been meaning to look at that one..
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<havenwood>
banisterfiend: What do you think of byebug??
<banisterfiend>
havenwood i think it works on 2.*, i don't think it offers any other features aside actually working on 2.0 (which is a good feature :P)
<banisterfiend>
aside from*
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<banisterfiend>
havenwood the old debuggers mix up step/next, apparently
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<Eiam>
yeah byebug
<banisterfiend>
havenwood btw, slightly off-topic, did u post that thing? it's not urgent, just curious when i should be expecting it (so i can make sure i'm awake when it arrives ) :)
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<havenwood>
banisterfiend: yup, sure did! sec and i'll get the tracking #
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<banisterfiend>
havenwood awesome, thx :)
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<jonathancutrell>
Hey folks. I have the less gem as well as the node package lessc installed on my system, and I manage my ruby installs via RVM.
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<jonathancutrell>
For some reason, I can't figure out how to load the RVM path at the end of my path; has anyone else had this issue?
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<jonathancutrell>
in other words, when I run which -a lessc, the rvm gem repo always overrides the npm version.
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<existensil>
jonathancutrell: your PATH env variable likely has RVM listed before NPM. Should be simple enough to change the order. Might want to do it by modifying line RVM added to your .bashrc or similar which adds RVM to your PATH
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<havenwood>
bnagy: looks like coroutine fibers shipped in 1.6.5
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<bnagy>
that was, afaik, an experimental jvm
<bnagy>
but I'm googling :)
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<bnagy>
yeah
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<bnagy>
afaik it's still not in jdk7/8 but I'd love to be wrong
<TJNII_>
I need to set a mirror for gem as I have servers that cannot reach rubygems.org. Is there a configuration file I can set this in? I'm trying to make this change for chef, and having a heck of a time finding information on it.
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<billy_ran_away>
Can anyone think of a synonym for accessor?
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<billy_ran_away>
Specifically something signifying that there's different kinds of accessors… almost like permissions
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<NullEntity>
I learned the basics of Ruby a while ago, and I'm trying to jump into Rails now. "render text: params[:post].inspect" Can someone explain to me what's going on here with "text:"?
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<billy_ran_away>
text: is just the key to a key value pair
<billy_ran_away>
could be written like render :text => params[:post].inspect
<jrobeson>
apeiros, did you get my comment about that readonly not working that way?
<apeiros>
jrobeson: sorry, no, I only got your question whether I had an answer
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<jrobeson>
oh wait.. i think i might have tested it wrong anyways.. :(
<apeiros>
^^
<apeiros>
I will know around end of next week
<apeiros>
for now I'm happy with it not complaining
<jrobeson>
well still let me know :(
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<goleldar>
I went to an interview last Friday. I thought it went well. I sent a thank you letter on Monday but no response. Someone mentioned I could send a follow up email to them today if I did not hear from them Monday or Tuesday. What do you guys think?
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<BraddPitt>
what do you have to lose goleldar
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<onewheelskyward>
Is it an engineering position?
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<thinkclay>
i read the docs.. I'm just new to ruby.. so i wasn't sure if calling methods from dynamically created methods (via string.. and is there an actual term for this?) would actually interpret and execute.
<thinkclay>
In the PHP world, I know that this works, but wasnt sure about ruby
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<havenwood>
thinkclay: you can 'eval' a string, but that is potentially unsafe so folks use other methods
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<havenwood>
thinkclay: I think maybe what you're looking for is a proc or a lambda? I really can't tell.
<thinkclay>
would you call this a lambda then: 'MyClass'.mymethod()
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<havenwood>
no, that is a string with a method that doesn't exist - so a NoMethodError
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<havenwood>
thinkclay: Why are you putting your Class in a String?
<thinkclay>
It's not my code :S
<thinkclay>
so no clue is the answer
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<bnagy>
you can const_get using a string to get the actual class
<bnagy>
using whatever namespace the class you want is defined in
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<havenwood>
thinkclay: The `DisableUI = 'GM::DisableUI'.freeze` code makes zero sense to me. Why one'd want to do such a thing I mean.
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<thinkclay>
I really don't know.. it's a ruby motion project, so maybe it has something to do with how scope and dependencies are managed? Sometimes with compiling things get moved around in weird orders, so there are lots of little bandaid fixes like that
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<havenwood>
thinkclay: looks to me to just be an error, that the code doesn't do what the author intended - but maybe it just is doing something i'm not getting, i admittedly have no clue what exactly is being done
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<havenwood>
Setting a constant to a frozen string is odd, especially when CamelCase like a Class or Module not SCREAMING_SNAKE like a constant.
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<havenwood>
Though looks like methods here are interspersed with headlessCamelCase, looks like Obj-C is seeping in. :P
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<havenwood>
Strengthen the levies!
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<havenwood>
maybe the headlessCamel is intentional cause it maps to Obj-C methods?
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<HelloHello>
i'm having problems getting dashing to work on osx 10.7.5 with ruby v 1.9.3, the error i'm getting is "undefined method `empty?' for nil:NilClass"