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<lethjakman> is there a way to get the current number out of rubys .times operator?
<lethjakman> like 5.times I'd like to know when I'm at 3
<benzrf> it's passed as a block arg
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<jsilver> benzrf: lol
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<drim> I have an array of object and want to count all with status => 2. What the best way to do that?
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<apeiros> drim: "of object" is redundant ;-)
<benzrf> arr.count {|n| n.status > 2}
<drim> oups :P
<apeiros> take a look at the Array#count method
<drim> thanks
<apeiros> bah, benzrf spoils all the fun
<benzrf> :-D
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<benzrf> hmmm
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<benzrf> is there an efficient way of checking whether a file contains a string
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<CaptainJet> how efficient are we talkin' here
<benzrf> milisecond or less hopefully
<CaptainJet> there's classic load everything and check
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<benzrf> with files up to a gig
<benzrf> [in theory]
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<CaptainJet> you're probably stuck with a line-by-line then
<benzrf> :\
<benzrf> is there no system call?
<CaptainJet> what system
<benzrf> ok
<benzrf> well, this is probably an xy problem
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<benzrf> i want a way to cache a boolean property by id
<benzrf> my first thought was to make 2 files, one for true and one for false
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<benzrf> then put ids in the right file
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<benzrf> and i can see that they haven't been cached by seeing if either contains em
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<CaptainJet> so you store whether they've been cached, by placing a special identifier in the file?
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<benzrf> yeah
<benzrf> well
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<benzrf> if they are in one of the files, they are cached
<benzrf> the files are the cache
<benzrf> but there's probably a better solution
<CaptainJet> well, is placing the identifier on the first line of the file out of the question?
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<CaptainJet> or am i not visualizing the problem correctly here
<benzrf> huh?
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<Jason> hi all. i have an array that I want to 'break down'
<Jason> in the sense of, i want to pull 6 objects from this array at a time.
<benzrf> hmm
<Jason> if that makes sense.
<Jason> haha
<benzrf> >> [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8].chunk_by 2
<eval-in> benzrf => undefined method `chunk_by' for [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8]:Array (NoMethodError) ... (https://eval.in/102943)
<benzrf> p:
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<Jason> x=[1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6]
<Jason> i want to get the first 1 to 6.
<benzrf> >> [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8].each_slice 2
<eval-in> benzrf => #<Enumerator: [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8]:each_slice(2)> (https://eval.in/102944)
<benzrf> >> [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8].each_slice(2).to_
<eval-in> benzrf => undefined method `to_' for #<Enumerator: [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8]:each_slice(2)> (NoMethodError) ... (https://eval.in/102945)
<benzrf> >> [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8].each_slice(2).to_a
<eval-in> benzrf => [[1, 2], [3, 4], [5, 6], [7, 8]] (https://eval.in/102946)
<benzrf> >> [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8].each_slice(6).to_a
<eval-in> benzrf => [[1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6], [7, 8]] (https://eval.in/102947)
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<Jason> ooh
<Jason> benzrf: hm
<Jason> benzrf: maybe this would work better: i want to get the first 1 to 6 objects in an array (and not have it fail if there's < 6)
<Jason> then get everything after that 1 to 6.
<benzrf> >> [1, 2, 3][0..5]
<eval-in> benzrf => [1, 2, 3] (https://eval.in/102948)
<Jason> ooh
<Jason> >> [1,2,3,4,5,6][0..2
<eval-in> Jason => /tmp/execpad-13ebe18cabee/source-13ebe18cabee:3: syntax error, unexpected keyword_rescue, expecting ']' ... (https://eval.in/102949)
<Jason> >> [1,2,3,4,5,6][0..2]
<eval-in> Jason => [1, 2, 3] (https://eval.in/102950)
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<Jason> now how would I get everything after that ..2?
<Jason> (not broken up or anything, literally [4,5,6 and so on]
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<benzrf> >> [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8].slice_before 3
<eval-in> benzrf => #<Enumerator: #<Enumerator::Generator:0x41c8a384>:each> (https://eval.in/102951)
<benzrf> hmm
<apeiros> Jason: how did .each_slice(6) not satisfy your needs?
<benzrf> >> [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8].slice_before(6).to_a
<eval-in> benzrf => [[1, 2, 3, 4, 5], [6, 7, 8]] (https://eval.in/102952)
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<Jason> apeiros: wella
<Jason> well*
<Jason> apeiros: i'm going to be using this in a recursive printing function.
<Jason> apeiros: i can only fit 6 objects at a time.
<benzrf> oh that's by value not index
<YourBestFriend> >> x = {}; puts x['test']
<eval-in> YourBestFriend => ... (https://eval.in/102953)
<benzrf> Jason: you could use take
<Jason> benzrf: take? /me looks
<benzrf> >> [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6].take 2
<eval-in> benzrf => [1, 2] (https://eval.in/102954)
<benzrf> >> [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6].drop 2
<eval-in> benzrf => [3, 4, 5, 6] (https://eval.in/102955)
<Jason> ooh!
<apeiros> Jason: I still don't see how that makes it unfit
<Jason> benzrf: THAT was exactly what i wanted.
<benzrf> :)
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<YourBestFriend> I want to get an error if 'test' isn't in x
<YourBestFriend> how do I do that
<Jason> benzrf: you rock.
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<apeiros> YourBestFriend: raise YourError unless x.include?('test')
<benzrf> Jason: (⌐■_■)
<Jason> >> [1,2,3,4,5,6].take 7
<eval-in> Jason => [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6] (https://eval.in/102956)
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<Jason> >> [1,2,3,4,5,6].drop 7
<eval-in> Jason => [] (https://eval.in/102957)
<Jason> right on
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<YourBestFriend> apeiros: fetch() is what I was looking for
<YourBestFriend> thanks anyway
<boom___> type something
<xibalba> boom___,
<xibalba> finally
<apeiros> YourBestFriend: maybe next time you tell us what x is
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<YourBestFriend> apeiros: I told you what it was
<apeiros> YourBestFriend: because you know, could be string, array, hash, yourcustomclass…
<apeiros> YourBestFriend: where?
<YourBestFriend> take 2 │ | lol
<YourBestFriend> | clients: Add delete handler for simple-shm / simple-egl │20:08:24 eval-in | benzrf => [1, 2] (https:
<YourBestFriend> woah
<toretore> >> x = {}; puts x['test']
<eval-in> toretore => ... (https://eval.in/102958)
<toretore> is what you're looking for
<toretore> damnit
<YourBestFriend> I fucked up that paste
<YourBestFriend> sorry
<apeiros> YourBestFriend: ah, you got "interleaved", I see.
<YourBestFriend> 20:08:14 YourBestFr…| >> x = {}; puts x['test']
<apeiros> interrupted?
<apeiros> spammed?
<sobering> Hey guys, anyone familiar with using the OAuth gem? I've been trying to make authorized requests to the Discogs API and get constant 401's. I've been struggling with this for a few days already and just can't figure it out for the life of me. I've got a simple function here, is anything blatantly wrong?: https://gist.github.com/sobering/9029493
<YourBestFriend> I don't know? what do you mean?
<YourBestFriend> burried?
<apeiros> YourBestFriend: there have been like 20 lines of conversation between that line and your question
<YourBestFriend> OK
<apeiros> but ok, sorry, I didn't see it.
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<YourBestFriend> it's alright
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<Jason> benzrf: one other q?!
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<Jason> benzrf: how would I reload an import?
<Jason> benzrf: require './labelgenerator.rb'
<Jason> how would I go and reload that, given I made changes to that?
<benzrf> mm
<benzrf> use load?
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<benzrf> although that could cause problems
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<benzrf> it's safest to just restart the process
<Jason> load?
<apeiros> Jason: learn to manage your $LOAD_PATH instead of using relative requires.
<Jason> benzrf: and, eh, it's a pain in the rear to keep restarting this when i'm making a change :(
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<Jason> apeiros: hmm? that might be an idea - shouldn't it be a gem though?
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<ptandel_> how can i fork multiple processes (4) and then wait for all of them to finish?
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<ptandel_> specifically i'm running command line operations
<apeiros> Jason: rubygems will automatically add a gem's lib dir to $LOAD_PATH, yes
<apeiros> ptandel_: take a look at the "fork" gem (shameless plug)
<ptandel_> link pls :D
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<apeiros> wow dude, srsly?
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<benzrf|mindcrant> -afk-
<centrx> apeiros, Is this even better than Open3?
<ptandel_> thanks
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<alk_> question: if I define func1, and I want to call func2 in it, and then I can to define func2, and call func1 in it, how can I solve the chicken and egg problem of func1 not knowing about func2 ?
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<apeiros> centrx: it's completely different
<centrx> Damn, I wish benzrf were here. Too bad he is afk
<apeiros> centrx: open3 is for any process, fork is for forking your current process only
<apeiros> alk_: define them before calling them?
<alk_> open3 is a combination of fork and exec with three pipes for stdin out and err.
<alk_> apeiros: but how is that possible since I'm calling them from one another?
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<apeiros> alk_: *defining* a method doesn't call methods in its body
<apeiros> `def foo; bar; end` # does not call bar
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<alk_> well.. once I run foo, it tells me that undefined local variable or method `bar' for main:Object (NameError)
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<apeiros> alk_: then you did something wrong.
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<alk_> yeah maybe. actually it's within a Proc.new { } that's defined in the first function
<alk_> (because I want to pass it as a callback for some EventMachine stuff_
<alk_> )
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<alk_> it seems that closures in ruby still confuse me
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<toretore> apeiros: i like that gem
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<alk_> I'll try writing 'lambda' instead of 'Proc.new' we'll see if it works
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<toretore> alk_: are you "defining methods" using Procs?
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<alk_> not exactly
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<alk_> it's like that: I have a class bla < EventMachine::Connector
<toretore> how about pasting the real code instead?
<alk_> yeah I guess I could use a gist
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<alk_> ok just tested. it actually works when replacing 'Proc.new' by 'lambda'
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<alk_> it does seem really dirty though
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<toretore> should work fine with Proc.new
<alk_> I had two calls that called each other
<alk_> until they are finished
<YourBestFriend> what's the difference between include and extend?
<toretore> alk_: well, that's not in the gist ;)
<alk_> yeah I didn't want to load it up too much
<alk_> but basically if the content of the lambda calls a function defined within the EventMachine.run
<alk_> it will work if it's a lambda and won't work if it's a Proc.new
<alk_> seems that lambda retains more of the context that's around
<alk_> I'd be curious to see how crazy my call stack is at the end of the process though since they are calling each other many times
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<dsferreira> Hi. Anyone knows how to change on runtime the visibility of a protected class method?
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<alk_> oh it seems that resets itself on callback. beautiful
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<dsferreira> I tried: my_class.instance_eval('class < self; public :my_protected_method; end')
<dsferreira> This does the trick
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<dsferreira> But I need a code to change all protected methods to public when running in test environment
<alk_> that makes sense
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<centrx> dsferreira, Why?
<alk_> I'd be interested to learn the answer
<alk_> probs for unit tests, right?
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<dsferreira> Because I use protected methods as private methods members of the API
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<dsferreira> And in order to do that I unit test them
<dsferreira> this works fine with protected instance methods
<dsferreira> But now I want to do the same with a class method
<dsferreira> for instance methods we just have to put in the spec_helper the following code:
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<dsferreira> described_class.send(:public, *described_class.protected_instance_methods)
<dsferreira> When I try to use described_class.protected_methods under instance_eval doesn't work
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<dsferreira> the code I'm using is the following:
<alk_> why are you using protected methods as an api in the first place?
<alk_> isn't an api something that should be called from outside?
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<dsferreira> described_class.instance_eval('class << self; self.protected_methods.each{|m| public m};end')
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<dsferreira> An API is something that guaranties the consistency of your classes
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<dsferreira> I want to guarantee that my protected methods are not removed.
<dsferreira> And assure to users of the class that they will be able to use them when subclassing it
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<dsferreira> When you make them part of the API you are telling to the users that they can be assured the API will not change until the major version of the Gem is not changed.
<dsferreira> On the other end I will have the freedom to change my private methods at my will
<YourBestFriend> are hashes ordered?
<alk_> yes they are ordered.
<dsferreira> In Yard doc you can activate documentation specifically for protected methods
<dsferreira> alk_: they are?
<dsferreira> was that changed recently?
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<dsferreira> Another question regarding this
<dsferreira> How can we debug a code from within the instance_eval code
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<dsferreira> Activating the documentation you tell your users what the protected methods are for
<alk_> I have observed that they preserve order
<dsferreira> They are part of the API. So they belong to the object.
<alk_> perl example
<alk_> perl -e "print join(' ',keys { 'a' => 1, 'b' => 2, 'c' => 3 })"
<alk_> c a b
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<alk_> and ruby example
<toretore> they may preserve order, but you may not rely on it
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<alk_> [1] pry(main)> { 'a' => 1, 'b' => 2, 'c' => 3 }.keys
<alk_> => ["a", "b", "c"]
<dsferreira> Yes, but that is not reliable.
<dsferreira> That's what I think as well
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<YourBestFriend> "Prior to 1.9, behavior of enumerated hashes was not in the ruby specification and therefore was up to implementation -- basically, hash enumeration behavior/pattern was undefined by the language and implementations could really do whatever they want (random? sorted? insertion order? different method every time? anything goes!)
<YourBestFriend> 1.9+, hash enumeration is specified by the language to be in the order of insertion, so if you know your platform is 1.9+, you can rely on it.
<YourBestFriend> "
<dsferreira> You can find classes that deal with ordered hashes if you need it
<alk_> I'm using 1.9.3p484
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<dsferreira> But don't use a hash for that
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<dsferreira> Seriously?
<dsferreira> Always learning
<alk_> it's ordered based on insertion order
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<alk_> since 1.9.2
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<alk_> 1.9.1 actually
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<alk_> this property does mean that it won't be a balanced tree internally though
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<alk_> not sure it's worth it. but it's like that.
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<dsferreira> I'm still not getting any feedback
<dsferreira> 2 questions
<alk_> about your question? I got no clue
<alk_> :)
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<dsferreira> alk_, Yeah. :)
<dsferreira> Maybe someone else?
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<dsferreira> At least how to use debug under the instance_eval call
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<dsferreira> That is for instance protected methods
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<dsferreira> My problem is about class protected methods
<dsferreira> I can put specifically for a particular class the code that I have mentioned before
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<dsferreira> or just: class MyClass; class << self; public :my_previous_protected_method; end; end
<dsferreira> This works
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<dsferreira> But I'm looking for a code to do it dynamically for all the classes in a before block on rspec
<dsferreira> And for all protected class methods belonging to each of the classes
<dsferreira> we can put it in the spec_helper before block under the configuration block
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<dsferreira> And we can use described_class to refer each class
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<dsferreira> When I do: described_class.instance_eval('class << self; public :my_protected_method; end') it works
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<dsferreira> But it doesn't work when I do: described_class.instance_eval('class << self; protected_methods.each{|m| public m};end')
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<dsferreira> There is something wrong with the protected_methods call and It seems I can't debug this properly
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<alk_> :(
<dsferreira> When I put the binding.pry the output is totally wrong
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<dsferreira> Hi. Why this code breaks? A.protected_methods.each{|m| puts m.inspect; a = "class A; class << self; public #{m}.to_sym;end;end"; puts a; eval(a) }
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<dsferreira> Or this one: A.protected_methods.each{|m| puts m.inspect; a = "class << self; public #{m};end"; puts a; A.instance_eval(a) }
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<dsferreira> instance_eval breaks if used inside the block
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<dsferreira> If it is called outside it runs successfuly
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<Riking> Today, in the department of "How the fuck did this even work?": https://github.com/discourse/discourse/commit/16c67598187db50c6f82da0e455a000079b2f57b
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<maletor> Well, it doesn't work. The line just never gets hit.
<benzrf|mindcrant> Riking: sup yo
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<benzrf> Riking: thats valid syntax
<benzrf> it's a range
<Riking> hmm...
<benzrf> line..blank?
<benzrf> blank? is a method on self
<benzrf> line is a var
<benzrf> it's a range between em
<benzrf> >> 'foo'..'bar'
<eval-in> benzrf => "foo".."bar" (https://eval.in/102970)
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<Riking> Ah, a method on self - that makes sense
<benzrf> >> ('foo'..'bar').take 10
<eval-in> benzrf => [] (https://eval.in/102971)
<benzrf> huh
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<Riking> because a range would be truthy, right
<Riking> >> !!(10..10)
<eval-in> Riking => true (https://eval.in/102972)
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<benzrf> yes, but
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<benzrf> blank? wouldnt be a method on self would it?
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<Riking> maybe? it was in a rspec test, so it's possible, I don't really know the details of it
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<firewater> Is there a method that allows you to print only the key of a hash?
<firewater> Or do you have to do a block for that?
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<qwebirc593101> Hello everyone! I'm trying to work my way through a problem, here's the gist: https://gist.github.com/jonathanpopham/2450dce70b0e22f68f21
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<firewater> Anyone?
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<wannabe-ruby-dev> again just for clarity, here is the gist https://gist.github.com/jonathanpopham/2450dce70b0e22f68f21
<centrx> firewater, Not sure what you mean
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<wannabe-ruby-dev> What is it firewater?
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<centrx> firewater, You mean get the key based on the value?
<firewater> centrx: So, basically, lets say you have a hash d={}
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<firewater> then, you put "test"=> "value"
<firewater> in it.
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<firewater> Is there a method I can call on d to print out the key onley?
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<firewater> aka, print only test.
<firewater> ignore the value.
<Riking> >> a = {"test"=>"value"}; a.each { |key, value| puts key }
<eval-in> Riking => test ... (https://eval.in/102973)
<centrx> >> a = {"test"=>"value"}; a.keys
<eval-in> centrx => ["test"] (https://eval.in/102974)
<Riking> ^ even better
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<firewater> Riking, that is what I did try, but may have done it wrong.
<firewater> centrx: I think that is what I was trying to do.
<firewater> I forgot the s on keys.
<firewater> centrx: Thanks for that lol. I figured out what I was doing wrong.
<firewater> I forgot the s on keys.
<benzrf> oh hey firewater
<benzrf> hows it goin
<firewater> benzrf: Ok, just stressed out sort of. I work in finance, really want to move into programming for a job, but stressed on how to do it.
<benzrf> I:
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<benzrf> welp
<firewater> benzrf: Don't worry about it.
<firewater> Just worrking on coding.
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<benzrf> =]
<firewater> working on those puzzles still.
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<firewater> benzrf: How have you been?
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<benzrf> pg
<benzrf> hey how can i turn a timestamp into a date
<benzrf> oh wait nvm
<Steve445> provide timestamp sample
<benzrf> its k nvm
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<wannabe-ruby-dev> Hey y'all how do I change my path? https://gist.github.com/jonathanpopham/2450dce70b0e22f68f21
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<firewater> If I have something set up like this: "value"=>nil. Why would the compilier keep saying it expects an end between the => and nill?
<firewater> I have it in a if else statement, but I don't think that would cause it.
<centrx> wannabe-ruby-dev, export PATH=$PATH:<add_dir>
<benzrf> firewater: is it in braces ?
<benzrf> firewater: you can only leave off the braces in a few circumstances
<benzrf> usually in method args
<benzrf> if it's a standalone expression it won't work
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<benzrf> for example:
<benzrf> >> foo = "wat" => 3
<eval-in> benzrf => /tmp/execpad-c740c4e57124/source-c740c4e57124:2: syntax error, unexpected =>, expecting keyword_end ... (https://eval.in/102975)
<benzrf> >> foo = {"wat" => 3}
<eval-in> benzrf => {"wat"=>3} (https://eval.in/102976)
<firewater> benzrf: That is probably it.
<benzrf> :)
<benzrf> fyi :foo=> can be replaced with foo:
<benzrf> in 99% of cases
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<firewater> IC. I think I broke the code more now, but oh well. Just going to keep playing with it lol.
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<firewater> IDK.
<firewater> But I see what youre saying.
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<firewater> Not sure what it going on, but I'll keep playing with it.
<firewater> IC why its broken.
<firewater> Although this isn't realated to the last thing.
<benzrf> krz:
<benzrf> *k
<krz> benzrf:
<firewater> Its because i am testing the thing I'm passing it to see if it has a key and value. If it does, I want it to do something, if not value and only key, do something else.
<krz> *k
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<benzrf> krz: :(
<firewater> Problem is though, I am doing this thing.has_value?
<firewater> That doesn't work though.
<benzrf> use Hash#include?
<firewater> Yeah, but I'm just vaguely testing it.
<firewater> Not testing if it contains one thing.
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<benzrf> huhn?
<firewater> It if conains ANY value, I want it to do one thing.
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<benzrf> oh
<benzrf> #empty?
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<benzrf> #any?
<benzrf> >> {}.any?
<eval-in> benzrf => false (https://eval.in/102977)
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<firewater> Possibly, I think I may know how to do this.
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<firewater> benzrf: Solved it, lol.
<firewater> But had to do it another way.
<firewater> I test if something is a string.
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<firewater> If its just a string, then I know its "empty" hash
<firewater> AKA, its just a string, without a value.
<firewater> else do the other thing.
<benzrf> huh
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<benzrf> ?
<benzrf> wha
<firewater> THe thing that was being passed to me.
<benzrf> i dont understand
<firewater> Is a string.
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<firewater> Its not really a hash thing.
<firewater> So, I test if its just a string.
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<firewater> If it is I make it a key
<firewater> and add it to => nil
<firewater> Vs. if its a thing like this "key" => value
<firewater> I just add it to the hash.
<firewater> Sorry, that probably doesn't make any sense.
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<firewater> But it works, I am probably not making any sense though right now right?
<benzrf> not at all -o
<firewater> Sorry.
<firewater> benzrf: I can maybe show it to you after I finish.
<firewater> benzrf: It may be a while though :/.
<firewater> its not important.
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<firewater> benzrf: Anyhow, going to head off.
<benzrf> ok
<benzrf> see you!
<firewater> benzrf: See you and have a good night.
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<benzrf> you too
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<dsferreira> This is the solution: A.protected_methods.each{|m| A.instance_eval("class << self; public(:#{m}); end")}
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<centrx> gross
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<lpvn> lol
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<wannabe-ruby-dev> Hey can someone take a look at my problem? I've made some progress and updated the gist https://gist.github.com/jonathanpopham/2450dce70b0e22f68f21
<benzrf> hey
<benzrf> is there a simple way to create a hash from an array and a block
<benzrf> *the proc becomes the key for each array item
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<bnagy> hm... not in one step off the top of my head
<benzrf> dang
<bnagy> create the hash with the default proc then walk the array
<bnagy> same amount of work anyway
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<benzrf> default proc?
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<bnagy> yeah like Hash.new {|h,k| h[k] = 'frogs'}
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<benzrf> what does that do?
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<benzrf> o i see
<benzrf> it calls the proc whenever an unknown value?
<bnagy> ohh wait you want something else I think
<benzrf> *with the hash and the key
<benzrf> its ok im just using each_with_object
<bnagy> do you want to use the proc to create the keys from the values?
<benzrf> yeah
<benzrf> but its k
<benzrf> 11:11 < benzrf> its ok im just using each_with_object
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<bnagy> then.. ha yeah each_with_object({})
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<bnagy> keep having blackouts here so I got all that with kind of weird timing
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<guilund> hey guys
<guilund> how can i just remove a substring from a string?
<guilund> its a very trivial thing and i cant get any info how to do it
<benzrf> gsub?
<centrx> string.gsub(substring, '')
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<guilund> oh ok
<guilund> i mean, why so complicated?
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<guilund> anyways, thanks !!
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<centrx> guilund, The next version of Rails has String#remove
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<guilund> centrx cool
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<guilund> i asked because, if you look at the String API, theres a ton of methods
<guilund> and one trivial like this doesnt have
<guilund> haha
<wannabe-ruby-dev> speaking of trivial, just throwing this out here again. i swear all the documentation on rubygame is so old i'm wondering if i should use it but at the same time i think it is interesting https://gist.github.com/jonathanpopham/2450dce70b0e22f68f21
<centrx> wannabe-ruby-dev, Did you try Homebrew?
<benzrf> wannabe-ruby-dev: i use gosu!
<benzrf> it is cool!
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<wannabe-ruby-dev> i did
<Steve445> How do you call a method from a module in another file? Do you have to require and include the module and class in the module?
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<centrx> Steve445, That's the general idea
<wannabe-ruby-dev> well, i mean i used brew to install some stuff
<wannabe-ruby-dev> should i do brew install rubygems?
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<wannabe-ruby-dev> or something else? i'm confused
<centrx> wannabe-ruby-dev, I don't know much about OS X. I just know that OS X Rubyists seem to use brew and do not have the issues you are having
<bricker`LA> wannabe-ruby-dev: rubygems is now part of Ruby, you don't need to install it separately
<bricker`LA> wannabe-ruby-dev: assuming you're on a newish version of ruby... I think that was added in 1.93?
<bricker`LA> 1.9.3*
<Steve445> Centrx, i seem to be hitting a syntax issue. What if you have conflicting namespaces from the class or method names from different includes?
<centrx> Steve445, Name your modules more appropriately
<wannabe-ruby-dev> I'm on 2.1.0
<Steve445> ha
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<bricker`LA> wannabe-ruby-dev: what's the problem?
<Steve445> can't you dictate the specific module and class when calling the method?
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<bricker`LA> Steve445: yes
<Steve445> can you point me to the proper syntax? I have been searching but can't find a write up on it
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<bricker`LA> Steve445: YourModule.your_method
<Steve445> I get undefined method
<wannabe-ruby-dev> i mean you can look at the gist https://gist.github.com/jonathanpopham/2450dce70b0e22f68f21
<wannabe-ruby-dev> i wrote everything
<Steve445> In my module i do not have a class. Just methods
<bnagy> Steve445: if you have a 'utility' module then you need to define the methods on the module itself, to do ToolModule.magic( ... )
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<bnagy> which you can do with module_function or just def self.magic
<wannabe-ruby-dev> bricker'LA I can't remember how to say this to you in IRC https://gist.github.com/jonathanpopham/2450dce70b0e22f68f21
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<bricker`LA> Steve445: define the methods with `self.method_name`
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<bricker`LA> wannabe-ruby-dev: oh, I thought you meant 'rubygems', not 'rubygame'
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<bricker`LA> wannabe-ruby-dev: did you do `gem install rubygame`?
<wannabe-ruby-dev> yes
<wannabe-ruby-dev> also what is the command to send something directly to you? publically
<wannabe-ruby-dev> I haven't been on IRC in like 10 years
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<Steve445> bricked`LA, THANKS!!
<Steve445> that was a big oversight on my part. Thanks for pointing it out!
<wannabe-ruby-dev> I get this error when I try to run rsdl <internal:gem_prelude>:1:in `require': cannot load such file -- rubygems.rb (LoadError)
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<bricker`LA> wannabe-ruby-dev: oh, you have RVM but you installed ruby with homebrew. You need to choose one or the other
<bnagy> wannabe-ruby-dev: the code you're using is ancient
<wannabe-ruby-dev> lol
<bnagy> in 1.8 you used to require 'rubygems' but that hasn't been required for years
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<wannabe-ruby-dev> oh my god is that the problem
<wannabe-ruby-dev> honestly rubygame's documentation is terrible, all the stuff is archived or gone
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<wannabe-ruby-dev> part of me says i shouldn't even mess with it, but i'm too curious and I want to make a game in ruby
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<wannabe-ruby-dev> okay so i took that out of the code and it's still broken
<wannabe-ruby-dev> same error
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<wannabe-ruby-dev> Is it just too old?
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<centrx> Looks like it, four years old
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<centrx> wannabe-ruby-dev, Check out https://www.ruby-toolbox.com/categories/game_libraries
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<wannabe-ruby-dev> Also I have both brew and rvm
<centrx> wannabe-ruby-dev, Usually best to use actively maintained gems,
<wannabe-ruby-dev> side question, could using both brew and rvm be a problem? I think I actually have two different copies of ruby 2.1.0. i accidentally the whole ruby
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<wannabe-ruby-dev> in two different paths
<wannabe-ruby-dev> i have lots of problems
<wannabe-ruby-dev> but I don't want to give up!
<wannabe-ruby-dev> I am honored by your assistance
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<wannabe-ruby-dev> I will come back another day
<centrx> wannabe-ruby-dev, Good luck!
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<centrx> wannabe-ruby-dev, Having more copies installed should not break anything
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<wannabe-ruby-dev> wait one last thing
<wannabe-ruby-dev> ah nevermind
<wannabe-ruby-dev> goodbye
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<amped24_> any more news on the ruby launch
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<centrx> Into space?
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<bnagy> so in 2.1 they applied the overprotective mother patch to gem, it seems
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<bnagy> whines about unversioned dependencies, won't let me build if an old gemfile is still in the dir...
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<edelFr0st> Hey Everyone. I don't know ruby. I'm having a problem with compass, it stopped working for normal user but still works for root even though it's the same excutable. Normal user says could not find compass >= 0
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<bnagy> well stuff doesn't just 'stop working'
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<edelFr0st> bnagy: Thanks
<bnagy> my money is on an upgrade or something that moved paths
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<bnagy> how is ruby installed?
<edelFr0st> It's been a few weeks since I've run compass and I probably did upgrade (via the arch package manager)
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<edelFr0st> Other gems are in .gem/ruby/2.1.0, compass is in 2.0.0. Tried reinstalling but no go
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<bnagy> this is kind of all specific to your environment
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<bnagy> and I don't know yum ( arch is yum, right?)
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<bnagy> the basic sanity tests are to make sure that you upgraded gem when you upgraded ruby
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<bnagy> and that you're running the versions / binaries you think you're running
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<bnagy> after that a gem install should fix it, in an ideal world
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<edelFr0st> Arch has it's own package manager called pacman
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<edelFr0st> I'll keep working on it. Thanks
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<bnagy> ok well that, then :)
<bnagy> anyway, this isn't really a ruby problem, it's a unix problem
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<bnagy> but sadly, arch people will tell you they don't know how gem works, so ask ruby
<bnagy> fun
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<edelFr0st> Not it's a ruby problem. It's ruby or gem specific. As stated I'm not a ruby developer but have the need of ruby tools from time to time
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<bnagy> nah, it's the way the OS has packaged it
<bnagy> anyway, hopefully someone will be along that knows arch
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<benzrf> its my birthday woo
<havenwood> benzrf: happy birthday!
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<benzrf> B)
<benzrf> hmm
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<dachi> hello.
<dachi> i use textmate for editing but
<dachi> i just wondered if Xcode supports editing ruby
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<dachi> is anyone here that has success with this?
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<havenwood> dachi: Xcode works fine with Ruby but unless you're actually using Cocoa stuff it is too heavy and not as nice as the best text editors.
<dachi> i see
<dachi> could you tell me something
<dachi> here, how can I have directories together and files together
<dachi> on the left pane
<dachi> it's like directory1, file1, file2, directory2, file3
<dachi> i'm not used to that, directory1, directory2, file1, file2, file3 would be better
<havenwood> dachi: I don't understand what you're asking. Are you asking how in Ruby you'd group them thusly?
<havenwood> dachi: Or in a specific text editor?
<dachi> i though you were working with xcode that's why i asked sorry
<dachi> forget and thanks
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<havenwood> dachi: I don't think that that level of granularity is available in Xcode, but I don't know.
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<havenwood> dachi: TextMate2 or LightTable are open source options on OS X that are really nice.
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<havenwood> dachi: In addition to emacs and vim.
<dachi> thanks textmate is great i was not thinking of completely switching to xcode or something just wanted to see if it's handy there
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<havenwood> dachi: I personally don't find Xcode useful for Ruby but I'd be curious to see why if others do.
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<nerdman> is it possible to define a method "<<<"
<Nilium> No.
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<havenwood> nerdman: Kinda.
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<nerdman> is it possible to define similar method as <<, i.e. >> "foo" <= "o" => "fooo"
<nerdman> havenwood: what do you mean
<Nilium> You can if you include calling define_method(:'<<<')
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<havenwood> >> define_method('<<<', ->{:ok}); send '<<<'
<eval-in> havenwood => :ok (https://eval.in/102998)
<Nilium> I doubt anyone wants to use send just to invoke <<<
<havenwood> Nilium: Ya, hardly usefule.
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<edelFr0st> Works now. For some reason installing sass separately first allowed compass to install cleanly and all is well again :)
<havenwood> edelFr0st: You might consider tools like chruby to keep the env vars straight for what Ruby you're using. chruby is available in the AUR.
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<edelFr0st> havenwood: Thanks for the tip. I'll take a look at it
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<edelFr0st> Is there an equivalent to something like python's virtualenv for ruby?
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<benzrf> ish
<havenwood> edelFr0st: There is chruby, RVM and rbenv.
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<havenwood> edelFr0st: For installation of Rubies there is ruby-install, RVM and ruby-build.
<havenwood> edelFr0st: I'd recommend ruby-install and chruby.
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<havenwood> edelFr0st: RVM is a 20,000+ lines of code all-in-one solution.
<havenwood> But a popular option.
<nerdman> Nilium: its useful if you need to write multiple lines without
<nerdman> Nilium: and you want similar method output as <<
<havenwood> nerdman: The lexer/parser makes things difficult for certain chars unless you want to go to C.
<nerdman> havenwood: ok, it works, i have now foo.send("<<<",stuff) which validates foo before appending
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<havenwood> nerdman: Yeah, that is a workable workaround.
<nerdman> havenwood: allright :)
<Nilium> nerdman: Writing `x.send(:'<<<', y)` over and over is not similar to `x << y`.
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<Nilium> That would be what my point was.
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<nerdman> Nilium: yes i know but if its impossible i wont bark, im happy
<centrx> pipework, Much progress has been made on Operation Special Olympics
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<edelFr0st> havenwood: chruby is looking pretty good and it's in freebsd ports too, a nice bonus
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<edelFr0st> havenwood: Thanks for the help!
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<sed_life_better> can't figure out a way to find duplicate values in a hash, docs not enlightening
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<havenwood> sed_life_better: Not sure what you mean. Have an example?
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<sed_life_better> havenwood: {:price => 100, :price => 250, :price => 100}
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<sed_life_better> need to find duplicate values, except price is a unique key each time and i need to be able to look up duplicates in price by key
<sed_life_better> so more lie {:shovel => 100, :latern => 40, :coat => 100}
<benzrf> latern?
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<sed_life_better> *latern, forgot i was in the English Language Channel, m'lord
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<sed_life_better> :P
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<sed_life_better> ok so my 'n' key seems to be sticking...
<benzrf> WOOP WOOP
<benzrf> [27] pry(main)> genesis
<benzrf> => #<Block 0x0000002e726335fad2796cde6de7857098484327>
<benzrf> => true
<benzrf> [28] pry(main)> genesis.valid?
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<sed_life_better> i'll buy a new keyboard before i'll be bothered to clean this one!
<havenwood> sed_life_better: Do you care how many dups, etc? Example input and expected output make it way easier for us to help. Checkout: a = {:price => 100, :price => 250, :price => 100}; a.detect { |price| !a.count(price).zero? }
<sed_life_better> havenwood: no idea of knowing how many dups, data source may change
<havenwood> sed_life_better: But do you care how many, or just that they are dups?
<sed_life_better> working on example input/output
<sed_life_better> well there's going to be a product rating as part of each :product_key, so if there are dups, whichever has the best rating should win
<havenwood> sed_life_better: So you need to know how many dups each dup is ?
<sed_life_better> havenwood: i think i only need to know how many dups there are for the purpose of knowing how many of them to compare against one another in the ratings category
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<havenwood> sed_life_better: sounds like you should iterate over and populate a hash
<sed_life_better> havenwood: as an example: http://pastebin.com/ikqGYUCZ
<sed_life_better> havenwood: makes sense, just with an each/each_key? i was thinking of how #detect might work here
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<havenwood> sed_life_better: Your code is missing essential commas.
<sed_life_better> havenwood: whoops, right, just a quick example, not being used
<havenwood> sed_life_better: Well, if #each_key suffices depends on whether you care about the value.
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<havenwood> Which you do.
<havenwood> So each and build an Hash out of matches.
<sed_life_better> havenwood: right, trying to compare the values for duplicates, so do i nest a detect in there?
<sed_life_better> ah makes sense
<sed_life_better> nothing out of the box though, then; just wanted to make sure i didn't misread the dpcs
<sed_life_better> docs*
<benzrf> my cc is workingggg~
<benzrf> just mined the genesis block
<benzrf> the unspent output cache is behaving
<benzrf> :D
<benzrf> next for the boring part
<benzrf> networking
<benzrf> /ROLLS EYES
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<pipework> centrx: I am excite.
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<havenwood> sed_life_better: products.group_by { |product| product.last[:price] }
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<bnagy> >> {:shovel => 100, :latern => 40, :coat => 100}.group_by {|(item,price)| price}
<eval-in> bnagy => {100=>[[:shovel, 100], [:coat, 100]], 40=>[[:latern, 40]]} (https://eval.in/103001)
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<shevy> damn
<shevy> via plain require alone I can not require a specific version right?
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<centrx> shevy, you can require a specific directory
<centrx> in
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<shevy> that does not help me much
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<sed_life_better> havenwood: thanks for that, missed the ping
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<shevy> in the event that two ruby gem dirs are used, one being the sys-dir over which a user would not have access, the other the home dir
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<shevy> sys-dir has a gem installed which has the same name but another version of --user-installed gem, this is annoying :(
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<shevy> hmm
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<shevy> I suppose I could check for two dirs
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<diegoviola> what do you guys do when you start working on a new project and the code is a complete untested/undocumented junk?
<diegoviola> how do you improve it without losing your mental sanity
<shevy> wait
<shevy> a new project, but the code is untested?
<shevy> if you started a new project, why didn't you start with tests O_O
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<diegoviola> the project is not new
<diegoviola> it was started in 2008 (it's a rails app)
<centrx> Fix it as you go
<centrx> Wall off sections and rebuild modularly
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<shevy> ewwww rails
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<diegoviola> it was started in rails 1.x iirc, ported to rails 2.x and now being ported to rails 3.x
<diegoviola> all the code is untested
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<diegoviola> and the code is not even restful
<shevy> haha
<diegoviola> it looks more like this: https://gist.github.com/9087204
<diegoviola> how do you convert that yunk to rest?
<diegoviola> it's a mess
<shevy> god what an ugly pile of shit
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<shevy> @collection.save!
<shevy> haha
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<diegoviola> i see this in the routes file:
<diegoviola> match 'ZenasMatthews' => 'collection#show', :collection_id => 7
<diegoviola> match 'JuliaBrumfield' => 'collection#show', :collection_id => 1
<diegoviola> but there's no #show method in the CollectionController
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<shevy> that's what you get for using highly domain specific projects
<diegoviola> i'm about to die if i continue with this
<diegoviola> shevy: it's not my project
<shevy> article.save!
<diegoviola> i was just told to improve this shit
<diegoviola> but i'm not even sure where to start
<shevy> find the smallest piece you can work on
<pipework> diegoviola: Try asking in #rubyonrails
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<shevy> I usually start by changing the ruby code to code I would write naturally
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<pipework> <shevy> pipework.sucks = true
<shevy> like if I find any @@ I go in for the final kill instantly
<shevy> who the fuck is pipework
<diegoviola> i will just delete that class and start a new one
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<shevy> ah and the .save! methods
<Nilium> Not ruby-related, but: I have a copy of Monaco from the Humble Bundle thingy today that I don't want, would anyone else want it?
<shevy> I dunno what they do but I already hate them
<benzrf> Nilium: fuck yeah!
<benzrf> Nilium: also its my birthday
<shevy> look how to trigger benzrf's wake up
<pipework> diegoviola: Mind that shevy probably doesn't have a clue about what he's talking about. He sure is entertaining though!
<benzrf> this can be ur present
<benzrf> to me
<shevy> pipework are you even on rubygems.org man
<pipework> shevy: yeahbru
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<Nilium> I have a hard time believing the birthday thing, but ok
<Nilium> PM incoming.
<shevy> there is no match for "pipework" there
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<shevy> Nilium benzrf is now 17
<pipework> shevy: And?
<shevy> pipework you said you are there. you are not
<pipework> shevy: Sure I'm there. Do you know what pseudonyms are?
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<shevy> pipework no I don't know
<shevy> pipework but you said you are there and you are not
<pipework> shevy: k
<Nilium> Happy porpoise day nevertheless
<Nilium> May the great porpoise spare your life for another year
<pipework> Nilium: I wish I had a porpoise in life.
<shevy> benzrf how long will you use ruby?
<shevy> I like tortoise day
<benzrf> until i realize that it was lisp i wanted all along
<shevy> omg
<shevy> why do retrocoding?
<shevy> lisp was hip back in the second world war
<Nilium> Gambit Scheme is my god.
<Nilium> I just wish I had a use for it.
<shevy> lol
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<shevy> sounds like haskell
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<Nilium> Scala is how I compromise on functional and imperative programming
<Nilium> Since I can use it for Android dev.
<shevy> Androgen dev sounds cool
<pipework> Nilium: I use ruby to do those.
<Nilium> So now I have two apps using Scala out there, and I shall continue my efforts to (violently) convert Android devs to using it.
<Nilium> I don't really like the idea of shipping a Ruby interpreter with an Android app
<dseitz> You don't
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<Nilium> And so far I'm not aware of any actual Ruby implementations that compile directly to JVM bytecode
<Nilium> Though Mirah is an interesting take on the idea
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<havenwood> Nilium: JRuby
<Nilium> At any rate, Scala is a lot like Ruby syntactically, so it works out
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<Nilium> I have strong and profanity-strewn opinions of JRuby.
<pipework> My condolences.
<dseitz> RubyMotion's translation of Ruby is interesting; it's commercial though
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<Nilium> RubyMotion's interesting but has some limitations (obviously). I wouldn't be too surprised if they try to take on an Android target, but it probably wouldn't be 100% compatible with the Mac/iOS targets
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<Nilium> Also I didn't want to spend $200 on it when I don't really do iOS stuff and I just use Obj-C for the small Mac things I do
<Nilium> Since I don't get paid to do iOS/Mac thingies
<Nilium> Though it would be nice if I did, because then I could justify $200 as an experiment.
<shevy> hehe
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<Nilium> Oh well, if I manage to get some more work I can set aside money for a RubyMotion license just to have it for the sake of having it
<pipework> I'll just happily JRuby along. It's my favorite ruby implementation.
<benzrf> thanks again Nilium :D
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<shevy> god, a java man, I should have known
<Nilium> Whichever Ruby implementation works for you
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<pipework> shevy: JVM.
<Nilium> I can't really get along with JRuby because they really hate the C API
<shevy> JVM is cool but you need java :(
<Nilium> Which is understandable since I'd guess it's a huge pain to support in JRuby
<pipework> Nilium: The C API?
<shevy> if they could get rid of java then it would be AWESOME
<pipework> shevy: You don't need to write Java, but you get full JVM interop.
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<Nilium> For C extensions.
<Nilium> i.e., the one in MRI.
<Nilium> And to a lesser extend rbx.
<pipework> I don't understand what you mean. The experimental C extension support?
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<Nilium> *extent
<Nilium> Damn you fingers
<dseitz> Yeah. But leveraging LLVM under Android would actually result is worse performance
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<Nilium> Do you mean experimental from the standpoint of JRuby?
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<pipework> Nilium: You know that the API is implemented in the implementation, right?
<dseitz> The NDK is not designed to enable truly native applications; just native extensions to a Java application
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<Nilium> Yes. MRI is basically the reference implementation, however, so its C API gets to be considered the C API.
<pipework> And the C extension support in JRuby is experimental. Are you complaining about that or just the API itself?
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<Nilium> It's not experimental anymore, they deprecated it.
<Nilium> I guess you didn't know about that part.
<centrx> Seems unlikely
<Nilium> Basically, JRuby wants nothing to do with supporting it, so they axed it, which is a reasonable thing to do since it's not very pleasant to support.
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<Nilium> It just makes JRuby unusable for my purposes.
<pipework> Ah, it's just disabled.
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<dseitz> There are lot of Java implementations of some popular gems
<pipework> Also, I never have problems with it, I guess I'm just not dependent on c extensions where I can't work something up myself in another JVM language. Not really JRuby's fault, but your loss.
<Nilium> Far as I'd read, it was deprecated in 1.7
<pipework> You didn't read far. It was disabled with likelyhood of removal.
<Nilium> I'd consider that close enough to deprecation.
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<Nilium> Hopefully you aren't actually bothered that I don't like JRuby, since I sort of got the impression that you seem bothered by it
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<pipework> So just use FFI?
<centrx> What mobile app should I build with Rhodes? https://github.com/rhomobile/rhodes
<pipework> I'm not bothered, I'm just concerned you dislike it for silly reasons, but I couldn't really care if you don't care to know.
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<Nilium> I don't really think it's silly, it's just that I've looked at my options and JRuby would require significantly more work to use.
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<bnagy> what are these cexts where there are no FFI alternatives?
<Nilium> Overall, there are better things for me to work on than trying to make JRuby fit my needs.
<bnagy> people keep talking about them, but I've never seen one
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<Nilium> Mine, for one.
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<bnagy> oh. Well you should just write it in C, then people with good ruby interpreters can use it
<bnagy> and every other language on the planet
<Nilium> Eh? They're already written in C.
<bnagy> I mean non-MRI C
<bnagy> like proper C
<Nilium> They wouldn't be C extensions if they weren't written in C. -_-
<Nilium> The underlying code is still written in proper C.
<bnagy> so make a real C lib, wrap it with FFI, everyone wins
<Nilium> The interface for MRI just happens to also be C.
<bnagy> sounds like no work
<Nilium> I'm pretty sure we've had this discussion before.
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<bnagy> nah I think that was when you were using fiddler or something silly
<Nilium> https://github.com/ffi/ffi/blob/bef6f44505fd96eb16c044b1e1af9cbad2697bfe/README.md ⇐ I'm also pretty sure this convinced me to stay way the hell away from ruby-ffi
<Nilium> I still use Fiddle for my GL bindings.
<Nilium> Oddly enough, they work better than the other FFI bindings.
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<Nilium> Funny how that decision worked out in my favor.
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<bnagy> FFI is still maintained
<bnagy> that was just scenedrama
<Nilium> If drama is enough to kill ffi, I'm not touching it.
<bnagy> it didn't kill ffi
<Nilium> I would rather stick with libffi and be very content.
<Nilium> Y'know, 'cause libffi kind of has a better history.
<Nilium> And it's in C, which means you can write your cutesy little FFI bindings for libffi
<Nilium> And then you can rewrite Fiddle's libffi support using FFI bindings to libffi
<Nilium> That could be interesting.
<Nilium> In the meantime, I'll keep using what works.
<bnagy> for your one use case
<Nilium> Y'know, not worrying about whether a project is maintained or not.
<bnagy> because you wrote your code in the least versatile way possible
<bnagy> GOOD FOR YOU!
<dseitz> And the winner is... Xamarin
<pipework> bnagy: I wonder if he gets paid to lock people into cruby for no reason.
<Nilium> I use MRI, so it's for the use case of people who use MRI.
<bnagy> 15:19 < Nilium> And so far I'm not aware of any actual Ruby implementations that compile directly to JVM bytecode
<shevy> 03:14 <Nilium> I like asian monkeys
<pipework> Nilium: Sounds unnecessary, but you clearly enjoy it, and I'm lucky enough to not have to interact with what you write so I'm happy too.
<pipework> We're all winrars here.
<shevy> pipework does winrar have good documentation?
<pipework> shevy: I can't read.
<Nilium> Indeed.
<Nilium> Except the asian monkeys part.
<shevy> nobody likes dem monkeys :(
<Nilium> pipework doesn't believe in words.
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<shevy> pipework believes in the holy documentation (if he could read that is)
<Nilium> pipework believes in pipes that funnel what might be words through the brains of all humans.
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<shevy> ewwww
<shevy> you don't wanna know what goes in pipes...
<pipework> shevy believes in delegating thought to others. Probably a safe bet.
<shevy> pipework I always liked the social setup of the BORG
<Nilium> Also, I am allowed to mildly weirded out when people act weirded out that I don't do what they prefer to do just because they're convinced their choice is the Right Choice, right?
<Nilium> *to be
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<shevy> people are very opinionated
<shevy> it comes with old age
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<dseitz> Really, cause my 3 year old is very opinionated
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<shevy> well he should get a better dad
<Nilium> 'Cause after ten years of hearing people espouse the Right Choice (it's been Java, C# and .NET, a few people I know were really gung-ho about Xamarin, etc.), it's kind of old.
<pipework> It just seems funny to see someone unnecessarily locking themselves into something. It's kind of like, "lol... shh, just watch."
<shevy> pipework but you like java too!
<pipework> shevy: Do I? I like the JVM.
<Nilium> I'm not locking myself into something, it's hobby stuff.
<shevy> I do too
<pipework> Nilium: the things you produce are.
<dseitz> Not sure why I would not want her to have an opinion lol
<bnagy> Nilium: you're the one with the strong opinions about jruby in general and the FFI project in general
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<bnagy> I was just pointing out that they're baseless
<pipework> dseitz: What if she agrees with you though?
<bnagy> I don't really care what you do
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<Nilium> I said I have strong opinions about jruby because the phrasing sounded funny to me. -_-
<Nilium> I do not actually have strong opinions about jruby.
<Nilium> I just care about whether C extensions are supported.
<dseitz> pipework: Occasionally we agree on things hehehe
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<pipework> Ignorance comes in, silly opinions come out, you can't explain that.
<shevy> just stop typing pipework :)))
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<shevy> Nilium has strong opinions too, so what!
<shevy> he prefers C over java, can you fault him for that?
<pipework> shevy: Have you ever considered drinking your weight in bleach? :D
<bnagy> I mean, C extensions are the biggest thing holding MRI perf back, tbh
<Nilium> As for the things I produce, they can be ported to other stuff if I need to since they're all MRI C extensions that wrap other C APIs, so it's not a huge issue.
<Nilium> There's no reason to port them though.
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<shevy> pipework hmm no but there are some great drinks out there
<pipework> shevy: I'm sure!
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<bnagy> I bet the yarv guys would looove to kill em
<shevy> chocolate liqueur
<Nilium> If they do, then I expect there'll be a standard library alternative by then.
<Nilium> Y'know, like Fiddle.
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<shevy> Fiddle as a name does not inspire great confidence
<bnagy> nor does the ruby stdlib
<shevy> lol
<Nilium> Because the name's what matters -_-
<bnagy> a lot of that stuff is just awful
<Nilium> Can we collectively agree on a desire to push shevy into a meat grinder?
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<shevy> :(
<bnagy> huge sections of it are used by basically nobody because the gem alternatives are better
<Nilium> It needs a good stripping, but that's not really relevant to whether or not there should be a standard library alternative to C extensions.
<bnagy> but I guess that's all politics :/
<shevy> oh speaking of gem... I found out yesterday that the debian-ruby at work has readline support, which made me very happy. cursor up key works for history on my windows machine there \o/
<shevy> and tab completion
<shevy> good stripping is always good
<Nilium> The main important thing to me right now is that I got to grab the gui gem name, so at least I get to lock that one up for a while
<pipework> What is this silly named fiddle thing?
<bnagy> gemsquatting!
<bnagy> pipework: the child of DL, afaik
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<pipework> bnagy: DL?
<Nilium> It's not squatting, I am actually working on a gem
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<bnagy> DL died because it just never worked, ever
<shevy> bnagy dunno if it is politics, there is this huge inertia to overcome to get to change anything... optparse will probably be in there for the next 15 years ...
<Nilium> Far as I know, it's just DL renamed.
<Nilium> With patches.
<bnagy> yeah for linking to binary libs
<shevy> whoever came up with end.parse!(ARGV) should be killed
<centrx> shevy, Don't you remember? It was you.
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<shevy> centrx NEVER! using ARGV directly like that is so wrong
<Nilium> I suspect Matz is going to be another problem for MRI, but he's weird.
<benzrf> shevy: i feel like youve said that before
<shevy> yeah
<shevy> it makes me angry
<benzrf> what's DL
<Nilium> He seems opposed to threads, and that's not a good sign
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<shevy> matz is always right
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<benzrf> oh man is matz as lame as gvr
<pipework> I think that choosing to have a GVL is going to hold cruby back indefinitely.
<benzrf> cruby?
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<bnagy> this iw what I was saying before. What's the #1 reason to keep the GIL?
<pipework> bnagy: It's a GVL
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<centrx> Makes threading implementation easier
<pipework> The VM is what's locked around, not the interpreter.
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<bnagy> same same
<pipework> Only in the same way that Ruby is just C with syntax sugars.
<bnagy> centrx: right, and the issue with unlocking threading is basically cexts
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<Nilium> The issue with unlocking them is C extension authors not being safe, it's not the existence of C extensions
<bnagy> which is also why jruby doesn't support cexts, and taadaa has true parallel threads
<Nilium> I believe the Rubinius folks have covered this ground before.
<pipework> Mmm, real threads without locks around the VM...
<pipework> Nilium: JRuby is older, I believe.
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<Nilium> No, I mean they've gone over the whole global lock vs. cexts thing before
<Nilium> In a blog post.
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<Nilium> Might've also been in an interview. I forget, it's been a while since I read it.
<pipework> Ah, and nutter talks about it.
<pipework> While I admire many of the cruby core contributors, JRuby is just too awesome for me to not love.
<Nilium> I consider them mildly insane because of the Rubinius X stuff, but that's another issue.
<benzrf> cruby?
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<benzrf> isnt it yarv?
<Nilium> JRuby is certainly awesome at what it does.
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<pipework> Quite a few people refer to it as cruby.
<bnagy> well to me yarv is just an ongoing research project. They're having fun and all, and they're the reference impl
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<Nilium> I call it MRI even though that's actually probably inaccurate now.
<bnagy> but it's kind of the worst interpreter available
<pipework> bnagy: What about the .NET one? :D
<Nilium> Isn't that one dead?
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<bnagy> yeah years dead
<bnagy> kind of sadly, tbh
<Nilium> Or at least in some sort of weird stasis due to lack of maintainers, I think.
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<bnagy> I could really use that for windows work :(
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<Nilium> IronPython seems to occasionally goes through periods of being mostly dead just 'cause open source for .NET stuff is kind of lacking
<Nilium> *open source enthusiasm
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<pipework> Jython got sponsored a while back.
<Nilium> Oooo
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<pipework> But I mean, who wants to use a language with crappy lambdas on a VM that just got worthwhile lambdas?
<benzrf> what's with 'iron' for .net?
<Nilium> I do. Android's crappy awful lousy VM doesn't support 'em.
<benzrf> why is iron the Accepted Prefix
<Nilium> The jerks.
<benzrf> pipework: i think you mean benzrf o:
<pipework> bw_: ^
<bnagy> benzrf: ^^ ;)
<pipework> bnagy: Sorry bruv
<Nilium> I think IronPython started it and IronRuby just followed suit 'cause it was a way of signalling "We're .NET too!"
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<bnagy> anyway .net is a pretty good IL, and the windowsy specific stuff is useful, you know, if you have to windows
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<dseitz> The DLR was an interesting experiment. MS was attempting to attract developers to their platform again.
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<dseitz> They released each project at OSCON and RubyForge, but they failed miserbly
<bnagy> LLVM might not be as good, but the ecosystem is fricking awesome
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<dseitz> Cobra.NET is where it's at
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<diegoviola> would you guy believe this shit? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/9088229
<diegoviola> html inside migrations
<dseitz> very php-ish of them
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<pipework> diegoviola: Don't cross-post channels without announcing the cross-post at least.
<diegoviola> ok
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<diegoviola> pipework: you could also use nicer language
<diegoviola> 05:45:12 pipework | diegoviola: Just go fucking work.
<pipework> diegoviola: I use sentence enhancers.
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<pipework> You're welcome to ignore me though. You did post that same chunk of code yesterday when you were complaining about the same thing. And you did come pandering for advice on how to do your job when you did the same yesterday as well. One would think there comes a time when it's appropriate to just "Program, motherfucker."
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<diegoviola> pipework: yeah ok, please mind your language though
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<pipework> diegoviola: I do mind it. I mean every damn word.
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<diegoviola> and i don't give a shit what you have to say, stop talking to me already
<pipework> diegoviola: Wonderfully descriptive language!
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<diegoviola> sorry but i wasn't the one offending first
<pipework> Are you really sorry?
<pipework> For what it's worth, my language was not designed to offend you, anymore than your clamoring for attention was designed to offend me.
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<diegoviola> ok english is not my first language and things like "fucking" and "motherfucker" are a little offensive
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<diegoviola> rude
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<diegoviola> but i get this is not the channel to discuss that either, so sorry if i was annoying
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<pipework> I regret that you were offended by my choice in language. In the future, I implore you to selectively ignore anything I might say that would offend your sensibilities, even though you only quoted half of what I said to you.
<diegoviola> no problem
<diegoviola> sorry about my use of bad language also
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<pipework> I think it was use of great language. A good use of great language, even.
<diegoviola> i don't think so, i don't like being rude and i regret it
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<diegoviola> so sorry about that
<dingus_khan> ?
<pipework> You may feel as if you were rude, but I was not offended nor do I consider it rude to use English words unless one means them in a rude manner, but I didn't read into your message in a way that caused me to think you intended to be rude. So no harm no foul?
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<diegoviola> ok
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<pipework> shevy: This you? http://i.imgur.com/4JTWQ.jpg
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<lll> hello all
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<lll> I am coming to ruby from the world of strongly typed languages
<lll> this is my first experience working with scripting languages, if we exclude javascript
<lll> now my question is the following
<lll> if I define a method in the Team Model class
<lll> can I call in a static fashion like so -> Team.custom_method(params)
<lll> or must I first instantiate the Team and then call it on it?
<lll> in other words, does ruby differentiate between object methods and class methods?
<Nilium> If you define it as a singleton method, you can call it like that.
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<jhass> lll: short answer yes, def foo is an instance method, def self.foo is a class method
<Nilium> Also e.g., class Foo ; class << self ; def foo ; "bar" ; end ; end ; end
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<jhass> lll: the longer answer is that both are instance methods, the later being defined on your classes singleton class
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<diegoviola> what do you guys use for web development in ruby?
<Nilium> class << self basically just opens the singleton class for you to mess with
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<tobiasvl> lll: ruby differentiates between instance methods and class methods, yes. but in ruby classes are objects too (of the class Class). so a class method is a singleton method on the class object.
<diegoviola> is everyone using rails or something else?
<Nilium> I don't use Ruby for web development
<lll> I see
<tobiasvl> diegoviola: i use sinatra
<lll> thanks for the feedback fellows
<lll> appreciate it
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<diegoviola> well what is everyone using?
<Nilium> I use it for horrible, horrible things.
<Nilium> Like OpenGL.
<certainty> diegoviola: i use bare sockets
<diegoviola> is sinatra ok for large applications?
<jhass> diegoviola: the appropriate tool for the task, from bare rack over sinatra to rails
<diegoviola> i see
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<diegoviola> is there a guide out there how to write apps on top of rack directly?
<Nilium> Also kind of depends on what your idea of "large applications" is, really.
<diegoviola> always wanted to know how to
<pontiki> Nilium writes web apps by staring hard at the server
<Nilium> I write web apps by not writing web apps and instead writing client-side tools to generate static HTML and then I just rsync that.
<pontiki> read teh rack readme, that's actually a great place to start
<Nilium> Because I hate servers.
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<diegoviola> ty
<pontiki> oo, are you writing static generators, Nilium ?
<Nilium> I also hate net coding, but that's probably just me.
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<pontiki> it's one of my current fascinations
<Nilium> My blog is static HTML, so yes
<pontiki> err..
<certainty> mine too
<pontiki> mine are too
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<Nilium> I'm slowly rewriting the horrible gem I wrote to generate it
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<pontiki> but i'm using someone else's code to gen them
<pontiki> contributing and wotnot
<Nilium> I wrote my own because I was too lazy to learn to use Jekyll.
<Nilium> I am an exceptionally productive lazy person.
<pontiki> the best always are
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<pontiki> i am liking middleman
<pontiki> and i spend a lot of time with jekyll
<pontiki> and helping people recover from using octopress, it seems....
<Nilium> I was actually fiddling with this slate thing that uses middleman today, I need to look into that some more
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<Nilium> slate's actually not useful for me, it turns out, but it's a really neat idea
<Nilium> I think I tried to set up octopress once and ended up screaming at my computer
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<pontiki> i cooked up an rss reader that's a static site
<pontiki> that is apropriate
<Nilium> Metaphorical screaming, that is -- I don't like screaming in real life.
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<diegoviola> what do you guys recommend for refactoring? i have a codebase that was coded in rails 2.x and we are migrating to rails 3.2.x but the app is non-rest and i'm not even sure where to start
<diegoviola> i want to move it to rest
<Nilium> Not very fond of my voice when it's above normal speaking levels. It's pretty weird.
<Nilium> Like apparently it turns into this booming godlike voice and it scares the neighbors
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<diegoviola> i think i will just rewrite this whole thing
<diegoviola> much easier
<Nilium> Refactoring: grep and then very carefully edit the code.
<certainty> diegoviola: be careful with that
<diegoviola> certainty: careful with what exactly?
<certainty> diegoviola: wanting to rewrite it
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<certainty> it's tempting but it often isn't what you want
<Nilium> I should go brush my teeth..
* Nilium wanders off to do that.
<pontiki> unless you wrote the old one yourself
<diegoviola> pontiki: i didn't wrote the old one myself
<pontiki> then the old one becomes just the learning platform for the real one
<diegoviola> sure
<pontiki> yeah, then be careful
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<diegoviola> "don't fix what isn't broken comes to mind"
<pontiki> it quickly devolves to shaving a herd of yaks
<diegoviola> but this app looks broken
<Nilium> Also don't optimize without data.
<Nilium> Lots of things in Ruby look broken.
<pontiki> well, here's the question: when the users use it, what doesn't work for them? what bugs show up that require fixing?
<diegoviola> why is that
<pontiki> etc etc
<Nilium> It's just kind of how Ruby looks all the time.
<certainty> hah!
<diegoviola> Nilium: is there any fundamental reasons to that though?
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<Nilium> Ruby coders are ex-perl coders and sometimes they do things that at first glance don't make sense and I'm obviously just making this up
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<Nilium> The only programming language that looks broken all the time is INTERCAL.
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<diegoviola> does that have anything to do with it?
<Nilium> The point of the joke is just that looking broken doesn't necessarily mean it is
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<pontiki> oh, hey! another EPL
<certainty> diegoviola: it's just that the desire to rewrite a codebase often come from the fact that one did not fully grok it
<diegoviola> certainty: sure
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<diegoviola> i agree
<certainty> beware fo the grand refactorings
<certainty> they almost never work as expected
<Nilium> So, like they've been saying, make sure you're doing it for a good reason
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<diegoviola> but the thing is the code in this app looks really broken, it was written in Rails 2.x and it's not restful at all, links look like this: /show?collection_id=20&ol=l_hd_c_link
<diegoviola> very php-like
<diegoviola> rails 4.x is all about REST, etc now
<Nilium> So?
<Nilium> Honestly, is that a big deal?
<diegoviola> probably not, but i want to make it more up to date with standards
<pontiki> wow, 1972! i wonder why i don't remember it?
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<Nilium> I'm not a web dev, so is it just mandatory to follow trends?
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<pontiki> err
<diegoviola> the thing is that this app doesn't have any kind of tests at all and if i change anything the whole thing breaks
<pontiki> trends are trends because ppl follow them
<Nilium> pontiki: INTERCAL?
<pontiki> mandatory? no
<pontiki> Nilium: ya
<Nilium> It's not a real language, or at least wasn't originally
<pontiki> yus, Nilium, hence my EPL comment above
<Nilium> I think someone might have tried to implement it, but it was originally devised as a joke
<Nilium> So that might be why
<diegoviola> i guess i'll just forget it, i don't think it's worth my time
<diegoviola> :(
<pontiki> or the CS dept was studiously trying to be all serious n shit
<Nilium> I guess it depends on how far elaborate programming jokes travel
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<Nilium> diegoviola: Whether it's worth your time or not is entirely up to whether it's going to improve the software, and not in a hand-wavey "it's RESTful now!" way.
<pontiki> diegoviola: this is a convo you need to have with your bosses. rewriting an app is a business decision if it's for a business
<diegoviola> why is updating code to a new rails version such a pain in the a**
<Nilium> Like there have to be really serious huge improvements to justify a complete reubilt
<Nilium> *rebuild
<Nilium> Holy crap fingers
<Nilium> Because Rails hates you and everything you love.
<Nilium> That one's not a joke.
<pontiki> s/rails/software/
<Nilium> It is an inherently mean and evil-spirited framework.
<Nilium> That too, but Rails in particular.
<diegoviola> the other programmer is fine with updating the rails version
<pontiki> nar
<diegoviola> he actually is the one who started doing that
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<pontiki> every framework and language major version upgrade entails much hard and long work
<Nilium> Except Python 3.
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<diegoviola> this app started on rails 1.x
<pontiki> i don't python
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<diegoviola> now they want to switch to 3/4
<Nilium> With Python 3, I have no idea why people are complaining.
<Nilium> Were there that many braceless print statements?
<pontiki> but making a generl statement as i did is not intended to be aboslute
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<diegoviola> would you guys bother with upgrading?
<pontiki> diegoviola: that's a case-by-case decision
<diegoviola> sure
<Nilium> I won't answer that 'cause I am not a rails person and have an inherent dislike of it
<diegoviola> i see
<diegoviola> what you don't like about rails exactly? everything?
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<pontiki> if i had a client with a 2.x rails app, that wanted to upgrade to 3.x or 4.x, i'd ask similar questions as above
<pontiki> how much is it costing them currently to run a 2.x app?
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<pontiki> what with bug fixing, feature enhancement, etc
<certainty> Nilium: who would've guessed that
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<pontiki> and weigh that against possible upgrade paths
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<sheepman> I'm struggling to write the equivalent in ruby of this php line: base64_encode(serialize(array("1"=>"Yahoo")));
<sheepman> my result is never the same output
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<certainty> sheepman: what's serialize do?
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<sheepman> apparently it "Generates a storable representation of a value."
<certainty> some kind of marshalling?
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<pontiki> it is an internal php string representation, like marshal
<sheepman> the output of the PHP is this: "YToxOntpOjE7czo1OiJZYWhvbyI7fQ=="
<sheepman> if that helps
<pontiki> no, that's the base64 encoding
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<pontiki> look at just the output of serialize
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<certainty> >> require 'base64'; Base64.decode64("YToxOntpOjE7czo1OiJZYWhvbyI7fQ==")
<eval-in> certainty => "a:1:{i:1;s:5:\"Yahoo\";}" (https://eval.in/103105)
<sheepman> whats marshalling? I guess its time for me to read
<pontiki> but don't try to emulate that in ruby
<pontiki> ri Marshal
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<certainty> ah that's what it looks like.
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<pontiki> yep
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<certainty> sheepman: what are you trying to do, maybe there is another way
<pontiki> a:1 menas an array of length 1
<sheepman> ah ok
<pontiki> i means an integer, value of 1
<pontiki> s, string, length 5, content
<sheepman> im writing a script to interact with an API but the only examples are PHP
<sheepman> the API is PHP too which probably doesn't help
<pontiki> unless the api talks a more universal language
<pontiki> xml, json, plain ascii text...
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<sheepman> yeah i think its a mix of XML and JSON, I'm gonna do some more digging for now. thanks guys
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<Nilium> diegoviola: I don't like that Rails hogs the Ruby name.
<Nilium> That is my main beef with it.
<certainty> understandable
<diegoviola> yeah i can see that
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<Nilium> Jerks and their popular thing taking over the name of the language.
<Nilium> Who do they think they are?
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<matti> ;]
<certainty> most of the time it's called only 'rails' though
<Nilium> Also because of it I get annoying recruiters pestering me about Rails stuff just because I do Ruby stuff.
<Nilium> So I blame them for that too.
<Nilium> Not fair, but oh well.
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<diegoviola> is that why everyone thinks ruby == rails?
<Nilium> Rails's popularity is mainly that issue.
<certainty> diegoviola: probably, that's part of the confusion
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<diegoviola> sue dhh
<Nilium> Rails uses Ruby and people in management don't know the difference so they just assume Rails is Ruby.
<Nilium> And management idiocy leads to HR idiocy
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<pontiki> i don't blame rails for recruiters lack of understanding
<Nilium> And HR idiocy leads to annoying recruiters
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<Nilium> In reality, it's not even remotely rails's fault
<RubyPanther> diegoviola: only for small values of "everyone"
<pontiki> all most of the manage to do is match buzzwords, and most of them have a bit of software to do that for them
<Nilium> Rails was successful and it did what it was supposed to do.
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<Nilium> Which is why because I have Ruby repos I'm automatically flagged as railsbait.
<Nilium> I'm coining that term. You heard it here first.
<pontiki> "99% of organizational problems is managerial" -- Dr. Deming
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<Nilium> Anyone says otherwise, I'll send some boys around once I find 'em.
<Nilium> Maybe I should hire managers to find me some boys.
<certainty> the Deming Wheel comes to mind
<pontiki> same guy
<certainty> i see
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<pontiki> pushed out of US because his ideas blamed the people responsible for implementing them, went to Japan, who listened, and turned Japan and Asia into a manufacturing powerhouse
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<Nilium> Never heard of him 'til now. Interesting guy.
<Nilium> Well, going by the Wikipedia page, anyway.
<pontiki> he was
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<olivier_bK> with ruboto and gosu can we create a game for android ?
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<Mon_Ouie> Gosu won't run on Android, and not on Ruboto (which is derived from JRuby which doesn't support C extensions)
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<Mon_Ouie> But you could use the GL API from Android
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<sheepman> certainty: turns out there is a gem that helped with my problem earlier - php-serialize - https://github.com/jqr/php-serialize
<RubyPanther> olivier_bK: yes, Ruboto works fine for games
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<olivier_bK> RubyPanther, for mobile phone
<olivier_bK> ?
<RubyPanther> where else are you running android? your toaster?
<RubyPanther> I actually run it on a tablet, and use a dumb phone
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<Fractional> Hello, could anyone here help me implement collisiion detection in Ruby?
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<diegoviola> why is ruby better than perl in your opinion? not trying to start a flamewar or anything
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<toretore> diegoviola: it isn't. it's different
<diegoviola> i see
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<pontiki> collision detection of *what*?
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<pontiki> cosmic ray particles?
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<diegoviola> ruby seems to have more in common with perl than python, doesn't it
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<Fractional> pontiki: Collision of a 2D platformer, this is my attempt. I can't get it working.
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<sichardrtallman> hello there, I have a question, I'm trying to get the JSON content from github api using mechanize, unfortunately after 60 requests github sets a limit for a hour, now what I'm trying to do is authenticate using a token generated on github via mechanize, but for now I'm not able to do that response is always 403... this is my code http://pastebin.com/98TMEHkY any solution?
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<toretore> sichardrtallman: what is username and token?
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<toretore> afaik, gh basic auth takes either username:password or oauth_token:x-oauth-basic
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<sichardrtallman> toretore: yeah basically what github needs is my username and a randomly generated token in order to extend the number of requests per hour... but even if I try with basic_auth github always gives 403
<sichardrtallman> thus I was wondering if there was something wrong with my method up there...
<toretore> there is. read my last line again
<toretore> and compare it to "username and a randomly generated token"
<lemonsparrow> can anyone help me write this function http://pastebin.com/em4PWDer
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<sichardrtallman> toretore: ouh x-oauth-basic that's what I need...
<toretore> yup
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<sichardrtallman> toretore: so can I change my code like this? http://pastebin.com/ew53L7eq
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<toretore> sichardrtallman: should work
<sichardrtallman> ok... great now I'll have to make another 60 requests because github api status is restored :(
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<pontiki> using mechanize with an api?
<toretore> a little overkill, yes
<toretore> probably an old perl programmer :P
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<sichardrtallman> toretore: lol you got the point...
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<sichardrtallman> toretore: hmm I checked /rate_limit from github using agent.basic_auth("my token","x-oauth-basic") and the limit is always < 50 instead of 5000 :(
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<roolo> Somebody experienced in spreadsheet gem?
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<roolo> I need to get the xls directly (without file) for sinatra response
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<roolo> But i am not able find some method for getting workbook content
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<apeiros> roolo: use StringIO
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<apeiros> (the __ in the name is actually a /, but that's not valid for gists :-S)
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<pontiki> no subdirectories for your gist files!
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<apeiros> also reminds me I should finally update my tabledata gem
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<pontiki> nts: peruse apeiros's gists
<apeiros> nts?
<pontiki> "Note to Self"
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<roolo> apeiros: Looks promising, thanks
<apeiros> roolo: keep a look out for https://github.com/apeiros/tabledata - the readme doesn't reflect it, but it can be used to write spreadsheets too. it uses the spreadsheet gem under the hood.
<apeiros> for simple tabular spreadsheets, its api is a good bit easier.
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<apeiros> also it makes it trivial to output the same data as .csv and .xls
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<pontiki> apeiros: what was the use case for this? https://gist.github.com/apeiros/8190494
<apeiros> pontiki: don't remember. somebody on irc asked :)
* pontiki nods
<roolo> apeiros: Will check
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<toretore> sichardrtallman: should be 5000.. you should check that it's actually sending the basic auth to gh
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<SolarSailor> Hi guys, happy Ruby dev here. I can't seem to find an in-depth resource w/examples on Ruby 2.1. Can you point me in the direction of one, if such exists?
<toretore> you mean "what's new in ruby 2.1"?
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<SolarSailor> Yes, sorry.
<toretore> just googling for "ruby 2.1" returns a lot of useful stuff
<toretore> like http://rkh.im/ruby-2.1
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<sichardrtallman> toretore: well that's odd here's my code again http://pastebin.com/3qfLQwxa when I call get_content("https://api.github.com/rate_limit") still gives me {"limit"=>60, "remaining"=>20, "reset"=>1392817603} damn it!
<SolarSailor> I read that one, and it's good, but it also states: "Please be aware that yesterdays release is just a preview and all of the above is subject to change."
<sichardrtallman> toretore: oh and how can I check it?
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<toretore> ah, i didn't even know 2.1.0 was out, so don't listen to me :P
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<toretore> sichardrtallman: i don't have any experience with mechanize, so i couldn't say
<SolarSailor> Haha, ok. :-)
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<toretore> also, there's a jruby 9000
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<sichardrtallman> toretore: oh alright nevermind do you have a better alternative to mechanize? because with curl -u from command line everyting is fine :(
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<toretore> just plain old net/http is what i use most of the time
<toretore> not super elegant, but it doesn't get in my way
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<sichardrtallman> toretore: okay, thanks!
<apeiros> I use plain old TCPSocket! it's all you need!
* apeiros topper
<SolarSailor> I think that it would be great if the new Ruby released would be accompanied by e.g. a screencast or video with a walkthrough of the new features, along with a thorough written one. I would like to help, but I'm not a Ruby core dev expert, so I would probably not be the right one to do it.
<toretore> me too, sometimes
<SolarSailor> s/released/releases
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<apeiros> SolarSailorMoon…
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<toretore> wrote my own http parser because i didn't want to add any dependencies
<no0code> hi all, sinatra question : how do i set a layout for a deeper route in sinatra? if make something like get '/admin/database/' do .... the layout.erb is not rendered
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<toretore> needless to say, it sucked
<apeiros> SolarSailor: there are often quite a few writeups on the changes. could turn that into a movie?
<kukyakya_> is there any counterpart of lex&yacc in ruby?
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<SolarSailor> apeiros: Yeah, that could be
<apeiros> toretore: I wrote one because I needed to read a multipart response
<apeiros> and somehow none of the available multipart "readers" where usable
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<toretore> i've been meaning to try https://github.com/tmm1/http_parser.rb
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<apeiros> oh, interesting
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<toretore> there should be one http parser to rule them all
<toretore> and everyone else should just use that
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<sichardrtallman> toretore: good net/http works fine here's my code http://pastebin.com/inp5QQYA
<sichardrtallman> thanks for your suggestion ;)
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<sikor_sxe> hello, how can chain map/reduce calls in ruby?
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<sikor_sxe> (values.slice(4, 3).map { |v| v[:is_currency?] } <- then add .reduce :& to the result
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<toretore> sichardrtallman: :thumbsup:
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<Mon_Ouie> sikor_sxe: Well that example looks like it should really be written with #all?.
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<GreatSUN> hi all
<Mon_Ouie> Other than that, just as you said it: values.slice(4, 3).map { |v| v[:is_currency?] }.reduce :&
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<GreatSUN> one question, while I think that this might not be possible:
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<GreatSUN> I have a module with a submodule which contains methods to be static in class after inclusion
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<cek> So I opened builtin RSS library documentation.
<cek> And found out there was none.
<GreatSUN> it also contains methods that remain instance methods afterwards
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<GreatSUN> those instance methods can be called using self.<methodname>
<GreatSUN> but what about private methods?
<GreatSUN> from instance methods, private methods can be called with method(:<methodname>).call
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<GreatSUN> from those methods in submodule (static) I guess it is not possible to call them, is it?
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<sikor_sxe> Mon_Ouie, yeah, i needed to () that expression, since it is in an array itself, d'oh
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<cek> anyone knwos how to get a value of dict Content elemtn in RSS?
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<gaspar|work> I'm trying to add redis to my sinatra app. Everything works in development, but in production I get "An error occurred while starting up the preloader: it did not write a startup response in time." error.
<AxonetBE> how can I split an array in exact 3 parts?
<gaspar|work> When in production I start the sinatra app from console it works fine. Does anyone know what could be the issue?
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<slowcon> morning guys
<apeiros> AxonetBE: a,b,c = ary[n*0,n],ary[n*1,n],ary[n*2,n]
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<fenak> AxonetBE: maybe arr.each_slice((arr.size / 3.0).ceil).to_a
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<AxonetBE> thanks fenak
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<fenak> no problem :)
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<j416> o/ My class stores data but doesn't care about where it came from (it can be a file, string, whatever); I'm thinking I'll let the user provide an IO that it can read from. Would this be bad practice? I'm thinking user would e.g. File.open('some/file', 'rb') { |io| myStorageObject.create(io) }
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<apeiros> from_io if you already deviate from standard `new`
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<GreatSUN> can someone tell me how I could bind an unboundmethod to a class where I have the name of the class as String value?
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<j416> what worries me is that my class will just blindly read from that IO until eof?, not knowing if it missed something (well, it doesn't really have to care); and also consume it (i.e. I can't read from the same io while passing it to my class)
<apeiros> GreatSUN: lets reduce your problem: "how can I get the class from a String containing the constant name?"
<apeiros> GreatSUN: see Object#const_get
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<j416> apeiros: ah, my bad. it's not a variant of new, s/myStorageObject/myStorageHandler/, and it creates entities from what is given to it
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<apeiros> whoops, make that Module#const_get
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<j416> apeiros: something like a factory
<GreatSUN> apeiros: oh yeah
<GreatSUN> stupid me
<GreatSUN> thanks
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<apeiros> j416: if the user wants to read from the IO too it's his problem
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<j416> apeiros: my thought, thanks. Would you say using an io like that as argument is sane?
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<apeiros> sure. why would it not be?
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<apeiros> make sure you document on what you rely, though
<j416> and I would assume that the io is open and ready for reading, right
<apeiros> i.e., which methods you expect
<j416> of course @ document
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<apeiros> god I *hate* it when I don't finish work and have like 20 edited and uncommitted files…
<j416> apeiros: that's when I just commit it all and label it 'wip'
<apeiros> I really have to pull myself together and do proper feature branches with small commits…
<j416> :D
<apeiros> j416: that's not the problem. the problem is figuring out wtf I was working on and how far I've got
<j416> if I am lucky I return the next morning and discover I've left todos for myself
<apeiros> proper small commits would document that
<j416> yep
<apeiros> I know the remedy. I'm just too f'ing lazy :(
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<apeiros> if I got to continue work the next day, it wouldn't be a problem either
<j416> when that happens I tend to just reset and re-commit it all in some sane manner
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<apeiros> but this was open for ~6 months
<j416> while reading through the diff taking notes on what needs to be done
<j416> heh yes.. been there
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<apeiros> yeah, reading through the diff is what I'm doing now…
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<j416> last project that was put on ice was idle for 1 month, and it became idle because of something so urgent I didn't have time to tidy it
<j416> I return later to 20 "wip" commits
<j416> lol
<banister> apeiros can't you just commit it from home bb? or you have a strict policy on no work at home?
<apeiros> banister: that's my own stuff
<apeiros> not work stuff
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<j416> apeiros: thanks, by the way. apeiros++
<apeiros> and it lies around whenever work at company piles up and I don't feel like coding at home :)
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<j416> what, there's no karma bot in this channel :O
<apeiros> nope
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<j416> I guess such a bot would crash when it tried to handle apeiros's karma anyway
<workmad3> a karma bot would just depress everyone with how high apeiros's karma-value was
<j416> so
<j416> ^
<j416> w
<j416> lol
<apeiros> workmad3: don't worry. occasional douchebaggery on my part wouldn't let it rise *that* high
<banister> apeiros workmad3 tell me which of these u like (if u're in the mood, no problem if not) http://en.99designs.nl/t-shirt-design/contests/create-winning-t-shirt-design-pry-project-298135
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<workmad3> banister: that depends... which one do I get a free version of if I like it? :)
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<banister> workmad3 sure i'll send you a free one :)
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<apeiros> banister: the girl in the 2nd row, 2nd col
<apeiros> oh, you mean the t-shirts? :D
<banister> workmad3 this is my fave one so far, it's a tweak to the current one: http://cl.ly/image/0D472012080L
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<banister> apeiros lul
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<apeiros> ah, good you pasted that link. that one didn't want to load for me.
<banister> apeiros agreed though ;) maybe i should flag the contest and ask for her ph num
<apeiros> yeah, I think the one you linked is the nicest
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<banister> workmad3 me too, but i dont 'get' it. Wtf is it? how does it relate to anything? :)
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<workmad3> banister: aiui, it's ruby being pulled apart in different dimensions inside a box :)
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<banister> workmad3 'aiui' ?
<workmad3> as I understand it
<banister> cool, never seen that acronym b4
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<workmad3> had a colleague who used it a lot... it rubbed off :)
<banister> workmad3 his explanation: "for #4 I smashed a Boolean Logic diagram with a abstract pixelated circuit board like pattern. I will upload an entry closer up so you can see it better."
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<banister> workmad3 oh no, that was for the other way i linked above
<banister> (the explanation)
<workmad3> banister: I think I'd like #4 better if it used the shinier version of the pry logo from #1 :)
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<apeiros> File.size('test/unit/all.rb') # => 0
<banister> workmad3 #1 uses too many colors, we can't have that unfortunately.
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<workmad3> banister: shame :(
<workmad3> it looks pretty :)
<banister> absolutely, but wayyy too expensive to mass produce :)
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<workmad3> it's ok... you can have one custom made and sent to me... ;)
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<banister> hehe
<pontiki> i <3 #5
<pontiki> i'd wear that one and #8
<workmad3> I'm not fond of light-coloured t-shirts... so didn't rate #8 :)
<pontiki> hehe
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<workmad3> would you keep the 'pry' logo on the sleeve with #5?
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<banister> workmad3 cos without it's just a pretty design with nothing at all related to pry i guess ;)
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<workmad3> banister: there is that... but it could potentialy be moved to somewhere on the front or the back... I quite like the arm placement though :)
<workmad3> banister: just wondered if that would affect printing costs again ;)
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<apeiros> *sob*, I wish rubygems had a way to list optional dependencies
<banister> workmad3 good question
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<workmad3> apeiros: you have a description field... what more do you want? :P
<apeiros> workmad3: …
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<jxport> When choose to use modules to include, and when to use composition instead?
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<jxport> Or, which factors tend to influence the decision between either two
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<apeiros> jxport: including modules is composition
<apeiros> so I don't really understand what you're asking
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<ghr> Anyone read poodr? Is this how you'd code Figure 4.7? http://pastie.org/private/1kgcivps750u1dm9jmeoa (see link at top for the chapter example)
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<dcope> hey all, anyone else on OS X notice ruby eating up > 95% CPU when running a simple ruby program?
<certainty> i assume you don't mean a simple program that runs a tight loop?
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<dcope> certainty: yeah
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<dcope> it seems anything ruby related will send the process up into the high 90s of cpu usage on my mac
<certainty> well then no, i haven't noticed. One reason could be that i don't have OS X :)
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<dcope> certainty: :)
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<certainty> for example something like: def current_continuation; callcc{|cc| c[cc] }; end ... then you can just store it and use in your conditional to test if it has been invoked yet ;)
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<certainty> bah, sorry
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<toretore> now i want to know what c is :) another continuation?
<certainty> toretore: oh a typo, it's meant to read cc[cc]
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<toretore> so you're creating a continuation and calling it right away?
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<certainty> toretore: yeah, passing itself as the argument which will make it return itself
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<certainty> it's just something like letcc
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<toretore> how is that different from just callcc{|cc| cc } ?
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<certainty> toretore: hah! it isn't. How did i not see that
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<toretore> :)
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<j416> is it safe to just mv a Tempfile to someplace?
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<j416> (risk of it being garbage collected?)
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<j416> I need to save data to a file but I don't know the filename until I've written all the data
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<certainty> toretore: maybe of interest for you, if you don't already know it: http://okmij.org/ftp/continuations/against-callcc.html
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<j416> I guess I'll just experiment and see. :)
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<j416> hey, it worked, it wasn't gc'd
<j416> nice
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<certainty> j416: i don't quite understand why it should be gc'ed
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<toretore> certainty: yeah happened upon it some time ago.. i stick with fibers anyhow, they're a little saner
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<j416> certainty: I was thinking that it used the inode or the like
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<j416> but it seems it properly uses the path
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<j416> s/that it used/that it might be using/
<j416> blergh
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<jxport> apeiros: sorry, I didn't see your response somehow
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<jxport> re: 'When choose to use modules to include, and when to use composition instead?'
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<apeiros> jxport: there are no silver bullet answers to such questions anyway
<jxport> Hmm/cle
<jxport> woops
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<jxport> apeiros: I meant, specifically by "composition" - containing a class/object and invoking that, rather than mixing in the functionality
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<apeiros> I thought as much (a bit later)
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<jxport> apeiros: I'm not looking for a silver bullet, but the kinds of things that might push a developer to choose one over the other
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<jxport> Personally I find using modules to be more complicated when we're talking more than adding just a couple of methods
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<apeiros> jxport: SRP might be a usable guide
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<apeiros> though, ah, ignore that comment
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<jxport> apeiros: ignore it? :(
<jxport> Seemed sensible
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<lethjakman> is there a way to get the time of last wednesday?
<lethjakman> time as in the Time object
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<bernalex> I don't understand this: why can't I do n = 5; for m in [2..n]; for l in [2..m]; end; end?
<apeiros> lethjakman: yes
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<bernalex> I get "bad value for range" on the inner for
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<lethjakman> apeiros: how would I go about doing that?
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<apeiros> lethjakman: you'd get Time.now, determine which weekday it is, and subtract the necessary amount
<apeiros> see Time#wday
<apeiros> and Time#-
<bernalex> or, more simply: for m in [1..n]; for l in [1..m]; end; end
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<lethjakman> apeiros: hrm...seems like a bit of a pain.
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<certainty> bernalex: what are you trying to achieve? you know that [x..y] creates an array with one element. The range x..y?
<apeiros> lethjakman: "omg, I have to write a full line of code!". yeah, lots of pain :-p
<bernalex> certainty: no. but that explains it.
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<bernalex> certainty: in languages I'm accustomed to, [0..n] would make an array of elements from 0 up to n.
<certainty> bernalex: you're looking for (2..n)
<apeiros> (ok, I'd probably spread it on multiple lines for clarity)
<bernalex> oh, OK, thanks
<lethjakman> ahhh found a cleaner way
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<lethjakman> rails has a beginning_of_week
<apeiros> lethjakman: if you'd said you were using rails.
<certainty> :)
<lethjakman> I just figured ruby had something nice.
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<certainty> *confused*
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<shevy> *aroused*
<lethjakman> shevy: perhaps we need to get you out more...
<shevy> yes please
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<nhmood> is it a good habit to scope classes from Ruby core itself? i.e. ::File
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<apeiros> nhmood: unless there's an explicit reason for it, I think not, no. why?
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<nhmood> I was looking at some sample code (Sinatra) and the author was using ::File which seemed odd as he didn't define any File class himself
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<nhmood> I wasn't sure if that was the proper way to do things
<nhmood> Also, when I write C/C++ I tend to always include the namespace (ie std:: instead of defining using namespace)
<nhmood> But this isn't C/C++ :)
<shevy> sure that he had no File class somewhere else?
<nhmood> So I was curious if there was some standard
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<shevy> lib/sinatra/base.rb: file = Rack::File.new nil
<shevy> lib/sinatra/base.rb: yield ::File.join(views, "#{name}.#{@preferred_extension}")
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<nhmood> Wouldn't core / :: take precedence over Rack?
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<shevy> dunno
<shevy> I never saw yield ::Bla before
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<nhmood> shevy: regardless, I should have looked at the sinatra itself, not just the project at hand
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<nhmood> is there any way to have gem/bundler/whatever pull all the gem dependencies into the working dir
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<jhass> bundler has the --path option
<nhmood> So that if I was to do a grep lets say, it would find terms in both the current project as well as its dependencies?
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<nhmood> jhass: yup that worked great, thanks
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<benzrf> hello
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<benzrf> i have a set of files containing marshalled objects
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<benzrf> i have a method that loads an object by id
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<benzrf> some of my code will be accessing the same object a bunch of times in a row by id
<benzrf> how should i implement a cache?
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<benzrf> i was thinking something time-since-last-access-based?
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<jsilver_> so guys
<jsilver_> why the hell won't guard-rspec autotest in centos?
<jsilver_> no, it's not my config
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<jsilver_> the program IS broken
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<MJBrune> hey so I am using net/http and I am doing a REST GET where I want to set the headers for the request. Can someone provide an example or something because I've looked at the documentation and I don't seem to be getting it.
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<benzrf> MJBrune: it is probably a hash
<benzrf> idk aoart from that :I
<MJBrune> benzrf: yes, I know it is.
<MJBrune> Im adding it to the http::get object
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<MJBrune> like http::get.add_field
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<nhmood> MJBrune: i use something like this http://paste.kde.org/phjh0jhb5
<nhmood> MJBrune: i'm no pro so might not be the ruby way or the best way but it works
<benzrf> what should i use for a timed cache that works by time since last access?
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<MJBrune> nhmood: im doing that but its not working :/
<MJBrune> Im getting like a bad request
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<MJBrune> I guess its server side
<nhmood> You can try _http.set_debug_output $stderr
<MJBrune> oh ok
<nhmood> that will print out verbose info, maybe you can get more insight on whats going wrong from that
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<certainty> benzrf: hmm doesn't seem to exist. Maybe you need to roll your own
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<benzrf> sooo laaame
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<MJBrune> nhmood: thanks I am trying to create a WSSE system
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<MJBrune> That debug info helped
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<benzrf> hmmm
<benzrf> is there a way to indicate that an ivar should not be marshalled?
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<certainty> benzrf: implement marshal_dump
<nhmood> MJBrune: what is WSSE?
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<benzrf> certainty: :\
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<certainty> i know no other way :/
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<MJBrune> nhmood: a standard in http rest security.
<MJBrune> looks like I wasn't using the gem
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<MJBrune> and I should have been instead of trying to reinvent everything
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<kraljev5> Hey, how to listen to a file
<kraljev5> so, I want to get notified, when file gets appended to
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<pontiki> cat stairway.mp3 > /dev/audio
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<pontiki> or if you really want the bits, cat app/models/user.rb > /dev/audio
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<kraljev5> let's say I have a file that some program append log lines to
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<pontiki> seriously, though, you need something like rb-notify, depending on OS
<kraljev5> i want to listen for those new lines
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<pontiki> or you can open the file, seek to end, and then keep trying to read from it
<slowcon> so im at the part of my script where I want it to pull a href from a download button. thing is, download button is only available if the user is logged in. the script is failing and im guessing that is why. havent gave it a go yet, but was reading around and some people recommend using mechanize. what do you guys think?
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<pontiki> which is how tail -f works
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<pontiki> (assuming you're talking programmatically)
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<kraljev5> thanks i'll look into that
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<joshu__> hi how can I use single quotes like this in a yaml file. 'Instances[*].InstanceId'
<centrx> Does that not work?
<centrx> Try using double quotes around it
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<joshu__> I've tried wrapping it with double quotes and sublime text complains
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<centrx> strange it doesn't seem to work
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<joshu__> never mind I found the problem it was on another line I delete it and now it works. sorry about that centrx
<centrx> >> require 'yaml'; YAML.load("\\'Instances[*].InstanceId\\'")
<eval-in> centrx => (https://eval.in/103337)
* centrx kicks the bot
<joshu__> the sublime text colour coding is still off but it works
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<apeiros> the bot can't require yaml :(
<apeiros> "'Instances[*].InstanceId'".to_yaml => "--- \"'Instances[*].InstanceId'\"\n"
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<centrx> >> require 'bot'
<eval-in> centrx => (https://eval.in/103342)
<apeiros> so plain single quotes in double quotes should work fine.
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<centrx> Alright, back to hack. Quit slacking off people!
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<slowcon> whatup centrx
<slowcon> real quick
<slowcon> im at the part of my script where I want it to pull a href from a download button. thing is, download button is only available if the user is logged in. the script is failing and im guessing that is why. havent gave it a go yet, but was reading around and some people recommend using mechanize. what do you guys think?
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<centrx> slowcon, Yes, it will save your cookies and connect with your cookies
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<slowcon> centrx: so i should only have to call it once and it will work on all pages?
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<centrx> slowcon, You can get OpenURI to do cookies too but it is not clean
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<centrx> slowcon, It will "mechanize" the connection like a web browser
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<slowcon> centrx: thanks, going to read over mechanize
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<benzrf> hmm
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<benzrf> is there a way to schedule an async task, but hold onto an object that lets you delay it or cancel it before it happens?
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<benzrf> or change when it occurs, rather
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<ilyam> anyone know if the 'aws-s3' Ruby gem is thread-safe? That is, can I call for example AWS::S3::S3Object.find(object_key, bucket_name) from multiple threads simultaneously? The googles don't come up with a clear answer on this
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<xybre> ilyam: Using MRI, Jruby, or Rubinius?
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<ilyam> xybre: MRI 1.9.2
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<xybre> ilyam: MRI doesn't do true multithreading, so you most liekly will never run into a problem.
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<ilyam> xybre: well, I thought in 1.9+ the GIL is dropped during I/O calls (i.e. network/disk access)?
<RubyPanther> xybre: that isn't really true, the GIL does exist but that doesn't mean multithreading is fake
<ilyam> and S3 operations will probably spend most of their time doing I/O
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<RubyPanther> just, pointless compared to fork and IPC
<xybre> ilyam: during blocking IO it can, but it is still unlikely you'll experience it. When in doubt, test it :)
<ilyam> xybre: yeah, though race conditions are hard to test for …
<xybre> RubyPanther: It does have threads, but it doesn't process them in parallel outside the aforementioned IO.
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<ilyam> right
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<RubyPanther> Trying to be pedantic, but then using the word parallel... no threads are never parallel
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<xybre> ilyam: True, but you *can* test if its running threads in parallel.
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<ilyam> but say i have a program that needs to copy 10 objects from S3 to local disk. Most of the time is going to be spent waiting for network or disk, so spinning up 10 threads could speed it up a lot. anyway, i guess i'll just try it and see if things get corrupted
<RubyPanther> If you port Ruby to a transputer, maybe
<ilyam> i can always compute checksums etc
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<ilyam> just thought if anyone knows about the thread-safety of the gem, could avoid wasting my time if it's known to break in multi-threaded scenarious
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<centrx> All OSes are really Mac OS <= 9 in disguise
<certainty> :)
<xybre> ilyam: Right, but would you prefer no one replied at all?
<xybre> centrx: DOS ins dsiguise.
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<RubyPanther> OS 7 is a special ring in Hell
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<ilyam> xybre: of course not :) just didn't get the sure answer I was hoping for, but you don't always get what you want in life :)
<xybre> ilyam: I know, and I'm sorry I don't have more information to give you :)
<ilyam> np
<RubyPanther> ilyam: you can throw in a mutex and not have to worry about it and still get most of your benefit
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<benzrf> hey how does this look http://bpaste.net/show/180903
<RubyPanther> probably less work than what I would do, which is make a lightweight drb server to fork and manage the service
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<certainty> benzrf: what do you need all those caches for?
<toretore> benzrf: it would delete elements in a lifo manner
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<toretore> keys.last == fifo
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<toretore> i think
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<benzrf> toretore: hmm
<certainty> therefor you are
<toretore> i am?
<benzrf> hashes arent ordered though are they?
<certainty> pretty sure you are
<toretore> "yes", but the other way (i assume)
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<benzrf> >> h = {}; h[:b] = 1; h[:a] = 2; h.keys
<eval-in> benzrf => [:b, :a] (https://eval.in/103362)
<benzrf> hmm
<toretore> oh nm ignore me
<toretore> goddamnit
<benzrf> >> h = {}; h[:b] = 1; h[:c] = 2; h[:a] = 3; h.keys
<eval-in> benzrf => [:b, :c, :a] (https://eval.in/103363)
<benzrf> huh.
<benzrf> i guess so?
<toretore> brain is on backwards, you're right
<benzrf> but yeah still fifo
<benzrf> :)
<jhass> since 1.9 hashes are ordered by insertion. I still wouldn't rely on it
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<toretore> it *could* be relied upon
<toretore> insertion order is what he wants
<toretore> but idonlikeit
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<benzrf> honestly i dont care what order theyre thrown out that much
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<ilyam> xybre: definitely not thread-safe
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<xybre> ilyam: Interesting! Then RubyPanther's suggestion of using a mutex might be your only option.
<slowcon> centrx: pretty sure i got it to work. only way to really test is to find elements that are not available to not logged in users, correct?
<ilyam> trying to use it from multiple threads crashes almost immediately with .rbenv/versions/1.9.2-p290/lib/ruby/1.9.1/net/protocol.rb:137:in `select': closed stream (IOError)
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<centrx> slowcon, Good idea
<soheil> any idea how to start rails on startup in osx?
<xybre> soheil: use pow?
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<ilyam> xybre: that would defeat most of the purpose of trying to multi-thread
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<ilyam> i could try fork and IPC i suppose … but that sounds complicated
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<ilyam> er … not complicated, rather tedious and requires more effort than i'm willing to spend
<ilyam> gtg
<soheil> xybre: no way to not have to install another gem?
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<xybre> ilyam: depends on what you're doing with the rest of the code
<xybre> well okay
<xybre> soheil: Sure, make a lauchpad plist
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<xybre> soheil: or add it to your startup items
<soheil> I tried adding it to my rc.local
<slowcon> centrx: one thing that scares me is that this website locks you out after 5 failed attempts
<soheil> but that didn't worked
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<centrx> slowcon, Better be careful :)
<xybre> soheil: log all the things, might tell you why its not "working"
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<soheil> xybre: looks like it's missing the Gempath, I'll try again... the thing that sucks is that I have to keep restarting to try different things.
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<slowcon> centrx: blahhhhhhh! >_<
<xybre> soheil: There's an incantation I use for starting scripts outside of a known environment, I can look it up
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<soheil> xybre: great ty.
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<cek> Hey. I'm following modern way of having gem structure, but somehow, bin script i'm developing can't find the library I'm developing in this gem. What's up? :/
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<cek> it doesn't load `cwd`/lib/library.rb
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<benzrf> maybe you mean `pwd`
<pontiki> on os/x, you use launchd, which reads various plist files in /System/Library/LaunchAgents, /Library/LaunchAgents or ~/Library/LaunchAgents
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<cek> yeah, gem's root dir
<xybre> soheil: try this shebang line if you're using rvm: #!/usr/bin/env rvm . do ruby
<xybre> soheil: and then `require 'bundler'; Bundler.setup`
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<soheil> xybre: cool
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<pontiki> you want to read up on launchd, launchctl, launchd.conf, and launchd.plist
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<xybre> cek: Are you setting up Bundler? It will set up your load path so you should be able to just do `require 'my_lib'` without specifying the path.
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<soheil> xybre: RVM is not a function, selecting rubies with 'rvm use ...' will not work.
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<xybre> Hmm.
<pontiki> yeah, actually, i don't think it works that way
<xybre> soheil: You must not have rvm in your .bashrc
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<cek> xybre: i'm using bundler, whihc should load all stuff but it doesnt
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<pontiki> in a crontab, i invoke them like: bash -l -c 'cd /path/to/app; RAILS_ENV=production rails server'
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<xybre> soheil: check out https://rvm.io/workflow/scripting
<soheil> ok
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<xybre> cek: Do you have `Bundler.setup` in your binary?
<xybre> "binary"
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<cek> that's not necessary as i'm calling that via bundle exec.
<pontiki> crazy talk, xybre
<cek> more than that, it's wrong to put it there as the binscript will be distributed and enduser could not have bundler installed
<xybre> pontiki: apparently!
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<pontiki> cel: how will it be distributed?
<xybre> Cool story bro?
<pontiki> Don't taze me, bro!
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<pontiki> err, cek*
<xybre> cek: If you don't want to use Bundler, then you'll ahve to do everything that bundler does by hand.
<xybre> Or use require_relative or generate full paths for all requires for everything because lulz.
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<xybre> Seriously, just use bundler.
<xybre> Unless you have like a specific use case in which you know you can't, use bundler.
* pontiki looks at xybre's serious face.
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* xybre is so serious right now
* boom__ ha
<cek> Bundler is for development. Basic rubygems handling is for distribution.
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<cek> I was able to resolve the prob by adding require_paths to gemspec that's loaded via Gemfile
<pontiki> watt???
<xybre> Thats an interesting perspective.
<unholycrab> having a problem installing nokogiri on ruby 1.8.7
<xybre> ಠ_ಠ
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<xybre> (that was my serious face btw)
<pontiki> oo i like that one
<unholycrab> it says it needs ruby 1.9.2. the nokogiri site says that it is compatible with ruby 1.8
<unholycrab> http://nokogiri.org/tutorials/installing_nokogiri.html how do i instlal nokogiri with ruby 1.8?
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<yxhuvud> unholycrab, : you must find a version old enough to support 1.8
<boom__> that is the only way
<yxhuvud> 1.8 is EOL so nokogiri probably dropped the support
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<RubyPanther> I think it has been 2 years since Yugui told us 1.8 is going away... or was it 3?
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<xybre> I'm jsut hoping 2.x is going to get more stable and less crashy before 1.9 support runs out.
<RubyPanther> Major stuff was dropping support a year ago, 1.8 is totally toast now
<xybre> It's funny for me to say that since I'm running 2.x everywhere, but still.
<YourBestFriend> can a lambda/proc modify a variable that's passed to it?
<RubyPanther> I've never seen 2.x crash
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<benzrf> YourBestFriend: you mean mutate?
<benzrf> an object passed to it?
<benzrf> you can't pass variables
<YourBestFriend> oh =/
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<xybre> "works for me" is the best reason.
<xybre> YourBestFriend: Uhm, it can't modify variables but it can modify some objects in place if the object allows it.
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<YourBestFriend> I see
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<xybre> For instance s = "test"; s.gsub!(/s/,'x'); puts s #=> "text"
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<xybre> >> s = "test"; s.gsub!(/s/,'x'); puts s
<YourBestFriend> yeah I know what you mean
<RubyPanther> Everything is an object. Except variables, which are containers for objects.
<xybre> Hmm, no eval.
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<benzrf> hey, anybody wanna try screwing around with what i've written so far of a cryptocurrency
<Tachoh> what's it called?
<benzrf> it's not publically online
<xybre> Thats a funny name.
<benzrf> and its definitely not usable, i havent written any networking
<benzrf> ;p
<toretore> it's not publically onlinecoin
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<benzrf> it's called vitural econony
<benzrf> spelled in comic sans
<Tachoh> call it lolcoin
<xybre> ecnony
<xybre> mocomony
<benzrf> right now its possible to simulate a network and mining within a program by passing objects
<toretore> h4ck3rK01n
<RubyPanther> Sounds like something black market... okay, I'm in
<benzrf> but there's no code for actual nodes yetet
<benzrf> *ye
<benzrf> t
<xybre> leetkoin
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<benzrf> no networking written yet, just backend stuff like block verification
<benzrf> oops
<benzrf> 03:31 < benzrf> it's called vitural econony
<benzrf> 03:31 < benzrf> spelled in comic sans
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<RubyPanther> wait, if the name has a specified font, I'm out lol
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<benzrf> well i mean if you use another font thats fine
<benzrf> it's just that comic sans is the correct onewheelskyward
<benzrf> *one
<benzrf> ^econony
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<benzrf> anyway the correct spelling is to misspell itamaryu
<benzrf> *ot
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<benzrf> ugh
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<benzrf> if you dont make a typo while writing its name then ur doin it wrong
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<slowcon> centrx: close with these? http://pastebin.com/yVZf2hzy
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<centrx> slowcon, Sure, looks good. I've only used Mechanize with Perl.
<Tachoh> my vote is 'coincoin'
<YourBestFriend> can someone remind me of the differences between lambdas and procs?
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<centrx> YourBestFriend, lambdas require a specific number of parameters as defined in the block
<benzrf> so.... anybody wanna try it
<slowcon> centrx: true true. just hard to test. not grabbing the Welcome! text i want
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<RubyPanther> omg benzrf at first I thought I went through a time machine to the 90s, then I saw Obama and realized, this is whole different parallel reality!
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<centrx> YourBestFriend, and returns in a lambda will return out of the lambda, not out of the surrounding method
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<benzrf> RubyPanther: *obana
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<Tachoh> i will make a cryptocoin that steals your bitcoins
<Tachoh> and replaces them with this coin
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<jason^> is there a way when using method_missing to not run a method and use method_missing for it instead, for instance, obj.nodes, nodes is a method but i'd rather it go to the method_missing method for it
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<apeiros> jason^: call method_missing directly
<apeiros> it's a method, after all.
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<YourBestFriend> I think I'm going to write my own ruby interpreter and name it after some porn actress I know, how novel is that?
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<toretore> jason^: also, if you're calling method_missing directly, it should probably be called something else and be called from method_missing, as it has a function outside of the scope of method_missing
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<YourBestFriend> centrx: how can I return from a proc? without returning from the function it is nested in
<jason^> toretore: i agree, it's not my gem though
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<centrx> YourBestFriend, The Proc returns at the end of its execution
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<centrx> YourBestFriend, You can either use an control logic like if-statements to get to the end of the Proc, or use a lambda
<benzrf> YourBestFriend: use next
<benzrf> YourBestFriend: next is like return for procs
<centrx> or there you go
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<benzrf> YourBestFriend: return will return from the function the proc was defined in
<benzrf> YourBestFriend: break will return from the function the proc was called in
<toretore> jason^: is it builder?
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<jason^> toretore: Ox
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<jason^> i really hate trying to parse XML in any language
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<benzrf> what about nokogiri
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<jason^> i've used it before, i'm currently using REXML but i'm trying to parse a 300mb xml file
<jason^> it's still trying to read the document in
<benzrf> ah
<centrx> Use Nokogiri..
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<onewheelskyward> 300mb? Good luck
<Jason> jason^: there can be only one.
* Jason is the real jason.
<apeiros> jason^: REXML is *a lot* slower than nokogiri
<YourBestFriend> benzrf: yeah but how do I return a result?
<InFlames> sorry if this isn't the easiest to follow, i'm having some big problems with grunt, but the error is ruby, maybe some can help me trace this? https://gist.github.com/gnarmedia/9101560
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<jason^> i have a carrot
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<benzrf> YourBestFriend: next 3
<benzrf> t looks weird but it works
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<benzrf> >> proc {next 3; puts "nope"}.call
<eval-in> benzrf => 3 (https://eval.in/103401)
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<benzrf> >> "_______".tr "_", "-"
<eval-in> benzrf => "-------" (https://eval.in/103402)
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<YourBestFriend> benzrf: indeed, looks weird
<YourBestFriend> is there a continue keyword?
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<benzrf> dont think so
<benzrf> >> continue
<eval-in> benzrf => undefined local variable or method `continue' for main:Object (NameError) ... (https://eval.in/103403)
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<YourBestFriend> so next is ruby's continue
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<YourBestFriend> is the stabby a lambda or a proc?
<YourBestFriend> >> ->{}.class
<eval-in> YourBestFriend => Proc (https://eval.in/103404)
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<toretore> >> lambda{}.class
<eval-in> toretore => Proc (https://eval.in/103405)
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<toretore> ;)
<YourBestFriend> wat
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<slowcon> centrx: i went through step by step in pry, and what looks like its happening is the page is going to the "Click here if your browser does not automatically redirect you." page and staying there
<centrx> aha
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<benzrf> >> ->{}.lambda?
<eval-in> benzrf => true (https://eval.in/103406)
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<benzrf> >> proc {}.lambda?
<eval-in> benzrf => false (https://eval.in/103407)
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<YourBestFriend> what's going on
<benzrf> YourBestFriend: procs and lambdas are both of class Proc
<benzrf> but lambdas have #lambda? => true
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<YourBestFriend> OK
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<benzrf> if you want to turn procs into lambdas the only real way is to use define_method (or one of its derivatives) and then pull a lambda out of the method
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<tubuliferous> Hey ruby folks, I want to declare a hash of arrays of arrays
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<tubuliferous> what's the best way to do this?
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<toretore> you don't need to declare anything
<toretore> a hash of arrays doesn't make any sense
<tubuliferous> Why not?
<toretore> how would it look?
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<toretore> a hash has keys and values
<RichardRaseley> Need some help related to regex. I have this (https://gist.github.com/richardraseley/6bdc4f025bc840ed1d76) script which should return as a first match group the text found after ' default_realm = ' found on one line in a file. For all the lines that don't match at all it returns nil, but for the line that matches it returns the whole line.
<RichardRaseley> How can I access the first match group only?
<banister> benzrf or you could just wrap the proc in a lambda i guess
<banister> but you won't get return behaviour
<benzrf> yup
<toretore> m[1]
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<tubuliferous> {"12"=>[[0, 300, 500, 1000, 1500], [200, 600, 1200, 1700, 2000]], "21"=>[[0, 2000], [1000, 2020]]}
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<tubuliferous> there's a hash of arrays of arrays
<slowcon> centrx: i guess it doesnt really matter if it doesnt redirect me after, as long as its logged in. i can test the login by trying to find that other text "Click here if your browser does not automatically redirect you."
<slowcon> centrx: that will only happen if the login is correct
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<toretore> tubuliferous: ok, so you've solved it then ;)
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<InFlames> can someone help me trace this? https://gist.github.com/gnarmedia/9101560
<tubuliferous> hahaha, yeah...but the point (which I should have made clear earlier, my apologies) is that I want to be able to fill the hash of arrays of arrays with input from a file...
<tubuliferous> so I need to be able to push values to those arrays
<toretore> well that's a completely different thing
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<tubuliferous> so the arrays have to already exist before I start pushing
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<YourBestFriend> hash['12'] = [[]]
<toretore> tubuliferous: why do they need to exist already? can't you just collect each array and then put it together after?
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<centrx> InFlames, Apparently this gem requires a certain crypto library to be installed.
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<tubuliferous> toretore: yeah, that's a good point
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<tubuliferous> toretore: I'd still like to be able to create this data structure dynamically, as I read in the data from the file
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<toretore> tubuliferous: having said that; i often use Hash.new{|h,k| h[k] = [] }
<tubuliferous> *fill this data structure dynamically
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<tubuliferous> oh, cool
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<tubuliferous> Yeah, that looks good
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<tubuliferous> let's give that a shot...
<tubuliferous> thanks
<toretore> it's difficult to say what the best way to go about it is when i don't know what you're doing
<tubuliferous> well I don't know what I'm doing either, so... =D
<tubuliferous> I'll let you know if that worked
<pontiki> when you don't know where you're going, any direction will do....
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<dorei> hello
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<tubuliferous> right, and your direction looks pretty good
<tubuliferous> that'll do
<dorei> let's say I have a hash that all of its keys are strings and I want to convert them into symbols, is there a nicer way than Hash[{'a'=>1, 'b'=>2}.map{|k,v| [k.to_sym, v]}] ?
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<apeiros> dorei: not really
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<apeiros> if you use a newer ruby, you can use to_h
<dorei> no? :(
<toretore> hsh.keys.each{|k| hsh[k.to_sym] = hsh.delete(k) }
<InFlames> centrx, the thing is, everything should be installed already :/ and it isn't even a ruby project, it's a grunts project running in yeoman
<dorei> newer as in 2.x ?
<toretore> if you want to mutate that is
<apeiros> dorei: not sure. might be 2.1+
<toretore> otherwise, replace first hsh with something else
<apeiros> if you use rails, you can use symbolize_keys
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<apeiros> toretore: .keys.each -> .each_key
<toretore> dorei: why do you want to convert the keys anyway? seems like unnecessary work
<apeiros> oh, wait
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<toretore> apeiros: yeah i was going to write that, but didn't know if it existed :)
<apeiros> you mutate the keys
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<apeiros> no, I think in this case it'd be a bad idea
<toretore> well, the hash
<apeiros> yes. you add new keys and you delete existing keys
<toretore> yes
<apeiros> so .each_key would not do what you want. in this case, .keys.each is proper
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<slowcon> centrx: got it, it was syntax >_<
<centrx> syn...tax
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<slowcon> centrx: was using login_form = agent.page.form.first and should have been using .formS.first
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<slowcon> centrx: so if im switching between ruby scripts, i wont have to relogin?
<centrx> I don't know, see if the cookie is saved or can be saved
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<slowcon> centrx: thanks, checking out cookiejar
<bodie_> not sure how to get tk working -- do I really need to recompile my own ruby with it or can't I just use rvm somehow?
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<phoenixHollywood> hey guys... I am a little confused about something. I've got a ruby project that has a custom gem in the gemfile... Let's say, it's foo, so I have some code which does require 'foo'.. and when I run specs, it works just fine. I look at the $LOAD_PATH, and I see the foo gem's lib directory in there..
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<phoenixHollywood> yet when I actually run the code: ruby do_it.rb, when it executes the code that does require 'foo', it blows up-- and $LOAD_PATH does not have that gem's lib in there
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<phoenixHollywood> But, all the other gems in the project are in the load path, so I am totally confused about why this works in spec land but not in the real world. Does anyone have any ideas?
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<apeiros> phoenixHollywood: you said "in the Gemfile"
<apeiros> so I assume you use bundler
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<phoenixHollywood> apeiros: yes...
<apeiros> you'd have to use bundle exec ruby do_it.rb
<apeiros> rspec does that itself I think
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<phoenixHollywood> apeiros: but what I don't understand is, why would the other gem files be in the load path?
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<phoenixHollywood> apeiros: yeah that totally worked.. bundle exec is the man, no wait-- you are the man. thanks
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<phoenixHollywood> unless you're a woman
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<apeiros> I'm the coder
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<slowcon> for future reference, if anyone is having trouble with CookieJar for Mechanize, link them to this page. https://gist.github.com/makevoid/4282237
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<slowcon> very easy instructions to follow
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<slowcon> also got me to thinking that i should store the password for my account in a differnt file, not in the code.
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<slash_nick> slowcon: I usually use environment variables for things like that
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<jhass> yaml and json files are other common choices. Or just as a parameter to the script
<slash_nick> in the shell, `export my_cool_password='blahblahblah'`... in rails, ENV['my_cool_password']
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<slash_nick> jhass: as long as those yaml and json files aren't in the repo :)
<slowcon> slash_nick: dont know alot about them. reading this now http://ruby.about.com/od/rubyfeatures/a/envvar.htm
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<slash_nick> slowcon: i said in rails... in ruby, i meant
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<slowcon> slash_nick: reading that storing in env vars or in a file is vulnerable, but better to use ENVs beacues of version control
<slowcon> slash_nick: so you dont accidently upload them
<jhass> well, any good version control has means to ignore files
<jhass> .gitignore .hgignore (iirc) etc.
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<slowcon> jhass: true true, just what i was reading. i havent felt comfortable enough to use git yet
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<xibalba> boom__,
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<xibalba> boom__, join #RubyOnRails too
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<mib_mib> hi all - WEBrick::HTTPProxyServer.new - how can i make this hide all of its output to STDOUT except what i want? Its showing ALL requests data and there's just too much, i tried :log => <some logger> but this didnt work
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<animehti> For all my fellow programmers out there. Do you have to follow this code by the ACM, I am curious. v
<animehti> This is for professional programmers.
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<centrx> Define "have to"
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* apeiros doesn't have to follow any code
<apeiros> only my work contract and the laws
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<pontiki> if i was told i had to follow a code of ethics, i'd find ways to subvert it
<pontiki> ethics cannot be externally enforced and be actually followed
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<boom__> "A man has to have a code" -Omar little
<pontiki> their own
<pontiki> not one imposed
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<pontiki> as it stands, i don't disagree with anything in ACMs code
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<dingus_khan> i like the way you think pontiki
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<pontiki> THEN I'M CHANGING
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<pontiki> but seriously
<dingus_khan> HAH! love it
<pontiki> lawyers are required to follow ethics rules or be disbarred, which means they can't practice law
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<pontiki> what does that say about lawyers as a profession?
<dingus_khan> at least on paper
<pontiki> well, yeah
<pontiki> but there are people who do review such things
<pontiki> licensed engineers have the same requirement in some jurisdictions
<dingus_khan> right; i guess it's an observation of the power they have
<pontiki> and medical professionals do as well
<dingus_khan> i think that's where the end goal starts to differentiate somewhat
<pontiki> there was a time when some people thought software engineers should be licensed as well
<dingus_khan> not in what is abstractly to have ethics, but in pratice
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<dingus_khan> that last point also sounds like an acknowledgement of the power programmers have
<pontiki> maybe
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<pontiki> it's never happened in the US afaik
<dingus_khan> not that it excludes other motivations
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<pontiki> one of the serious impediments to licensing software engineers is the pace of change of software development
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<dingus_khan> likely more industry-specific and public vs. government--are we including things like NDLs and security clearances?
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<pontiki> likewise electrical engineering
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<pontiki> yep yep
<dingus_khan> too broad, probably, to fall under "licensing" the way i think you mean it
<pontiki> but civil engineering doesn't change all that rapidly
<pontiki> not any more
<pontiki> and it has to do with public safety in a very direct way, like doctors
<dingus_khan> indeed, different nature of work
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<pontiki> so there are good reasons for having some professions licensed to operate, which demand a code, as well as probably sets of rules
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<pontiki> and someone working on security protocols for the power grid is operating at a vastly different level of public safety than someone writing a php script for their dad's online storefront
<dingus_khan> i guess that's the context argument; makes sense to me
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