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<popl>
That's what I would do.
<popl>
Why do you want to print the object id?
<crucify_me>
it's a book example featuring pop / push I guess popl
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<crucify_me>
popl it returns two sets of three objects instead of one like it loops.
<popl>
I see the correct output on my system.
<RubyPanther>
crucify_me: you're using print without a newline, and not flushing
<popl>
I did remove the require_relative though
<popl>
I figure it's a buffer issue
<RubyPanther>
crucify_me: change print to puts
<crucify_me>
RubyPanther: one sec thanks
<popl>
If puts flushes the buffer wouldn't a puts after a p handle all the flushing?
<popl>
*I don't figure
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<popl>
RubyPanther: the object ids are all different, like it's been done twice.
<RubyPanther>
popl: sure, but also a newline at the end of the print should do it
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<crucify_me>
sorry I dont follow flushing popl RubyPanther but I changed all the prints to puts and get plenty more output
<RubyPanther>
in any case, mixing print and puts without line termination is bad, straightening that out gets it out of the way if there is another problme
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<popl>
ruby flushes the buffer when it encounters a newline?
<popl>
nevermind, I'll look it up
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<crucify_me>
RubyPanther: if anything like a loop occurs, on which line would it occur? I'm getting six distinct objects in the output.
<crucify_me>
I understand the buffer only from playing a bit with pry.
<RubyPanther>
crucify_me: I'm guessing your script is named stacklike.rb and your require_relative reloads the script the first time
<popl>
that's my guess too!
<popl>
I was just testing it :P
<RubyPanther>
just verified
<crucify_me>
excellent thanks popl RubyPanther
<popl>
I had to install required_relative
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<crucify_me>
the file is named stacklike.rb so it's a naming convention problem?
<popl>
crucify_me: do you understand what's going on?
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<RubyPanther>
crucify_me: no you just should never require the file that is already loaded :) you should name your script something different than the module, and then you only require when it is in a different file
<popl>
you don't really need to require it if its in the same file
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<RubyPanther>
require is just for loading files, it doesn't do anything with the namespace
<popl>
by it I meant the stacklike module
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<crucify_me>
popl: RubyPanther o.k. I vaguely understand. so on which line does the program decide to run again?
<crucify_me>
so to speak ^^
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<crucify_me>
ok yeah I just commented out line 17 require_relative 'stacklike' and it works. many thanks RubyPanther popl
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<popl>
crucify_me: do you know what require_relative does?
<RubyPanther>
crucify_me: it literally loads and runs another copy when it hits the require, and the original pass through the code comes out as the second output after the require finishes
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<RubyPanther>
the only reason it doesn't go into a recursive death-spiral is that require remembers the filename and skips it the second time
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<crucify_me>
popl: RubyPanther yeah its calling the module twice on lines 17 (incorrectly) and 23 (correctly)
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<crucify_me>
right? ^^
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<RubyPanther>
crucify_me: line 17 works like (pseudocode) "goto start, run until the end, then continue from here" line 23 has nothing to do with it
<RubyPanther>
require has to do with files, it has nothing to do with namespaces
<RubyPanther>
and in this case, re-running the module definitions is a harmless waste of time. It is the procedural script-y parts that cause the problem
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<popl>
[s]he probably doesn't understand your namespace reference.
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<crucify_me>
RubyPanther: using print ? Yeah sorry I don't understand namespace in this case.
<crucify_me>
popl^^
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<centrx>
atlas__, Principle of least astonishment is for people who learn the language. Some languages still manage to astonish developers who have used to for years
<centrx>
s/people who learn the language/experienced users of the language
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<visof_>
hello
<centrx>
Ahoy
<visof_>
if i have arr = ["hello", "world", "foo", "bar"] and can i get : {"hello" => "world", "foo" => "bar"} ?
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<visof_>
for even array's length
<visof_>
the best way to do this?
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<centrx>
visof_, What version of Ruby?
<visof_>
jruby
<centrx>
visof_, Hash[*arr]
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<leeolee>
hello
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<sigurding>
anyone here used the sigar ruby binding?
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<amh345>
anyone here ever dealt with SOAP/Savon? I'm in the middle of a personal hell over this. I'm trying to create an array/multidimensional array/hash/etc and no matter what i do soap.body {session,blah,array} sends the array/etc as escaped xml.
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<amh345>
csmrfx: i just wanted to tell you. thanks. for that link. i mean you know exactly what the problem is. and the solution is totally in that link....somewhere.. so thank you.
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<csmrfx>
amh345: actually, nobody here can tell what the problem is, and that is entirely up to you
<apeiros>
amh345: you say you use soap, you say savon sends your response as xml (and consider that a problem), csmrfx tells you that soap is XML and it's what you should expect
<csmrfx>
but, just pointing out that the messaging is *supposed* to be xml
<apeiros>
amh345: so I guess it's up to you to clarify what exactly your problem is with the request generated by savon.
<amh345>
apeiros: yes. what you are saying is correct.
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<amh345>
what csmrfx initially said was..... typical irc fodder.
<amh345>
and yawn
<csmrfx>
but to start on a sarcastic vein, I do have a feeling the problem is somewhere between the "have to do this" and "didn't bother to do homework!"
<amh345>
csmrfx: isn't that where every problem lays?
<amh345>
honestly now. I'm not saying there's a big.
<apeiros>
whoops, "sends your response as xml" -> request of course, not response
<amh345>
bug*
<csmrfx>
amh345: and what you said, is irrelevant, and until you help yourself, you are beyond help
<apeiros>
amh345: maybe you could post what savon generates for you and what you expected instead
<csmrfx>
also, enjoy your place on my ignore list
<amh345>
apeiros: I'm creating the gist now.
<amh345>
csmrfx: have fun.
<amh345>
honestly, i don't get why people jump out and say "do your homework" soap is universally hated as far as i can see.
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<amh345>
i haven't been able to pinpoint it yet. but it feels like as soon as i go into a nested hash... or multidimensional array... something goes wrong. but i can't pinpoint it.
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<apeiros>
amh345: the problem is that you hand it xml as a string
<apeiros>
it's considered text and text is escaped
<apeiros>
i.e., `:args => {:item => 'X'}` would get you <args><item>X</item></args>
<amh345>
i can't figure out how to pass it in.
<amh345>
i was just about to say what you mentioned works.
<amh345>
so, do i have to pass in the builder directly into :args?
<apeiros>
but you do `:args => '<item>X</item>'`, and that gets you `<args>…escaped xml…</args>`
<apeiros>
I haven't used savon
<apeiros>
so I don't know whether you can pass it a builder
<apeiros>
but why use a builder at all?
<amh345>
i've also tried to pass it an array. same result.
<apeiros>
pass in a nested hash/array. savon will build the xml for you
<apeiros>
paste the code and result for that try please.
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<amh345>
will do. I'm throwing errors on connecting now. i think i might have had this account disabled. yay
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<apeiros>
testing against a live API?
<amh345>
ah ok. it's back again. one moment. ill post the results of the hash test
<amh345>
well, it's a sandbox.
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jruby
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<csmrfx>
huh?
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<superlou>
I had a question about entity-component systems (I'm using the artemis-ruby framework, but i don't think the specific framework is key). Is there a more appropriate channel to use?
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<shevy>
what is a good way to store objects and load them again?
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<havenwood>
shevy: serialize to a file or db
<certainty>
store in memory any hope that the program never stops
<certainty>
*scnr*
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<havenwood>
shevy: how much data? enough that storing it in memory as well a on disk is sane?
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<shevy>
havenwood hmm not much data; the objects will eventually hold playerdata
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<shevy>
certainty well I need to restore after a reboot or a crash
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<havenwood>
shevy: so many options, but one would be MessagePack with Redis
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<havenwood>
shevy: or YAML::Store or PStore
<shevy>
hmm
<jhass>
or just Marshal
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<art-solopov>
Should I put database fixture loading at database configuration point (i.e. before any tests) or at setup point (i.e. before each test)? Thank you.
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<shevy>
hmm
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<certainty>
shevy: personally i'd not store entire objects but only the data needed to restore the objects
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<jhass>
art-solopov: I don't think you can generalize that. Depending on the amount any of before suite, before a group of tests that use it, before each test and lazily on usage can make sense
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<havenwood>
shevy: i need to fix that up, some glaring deficiencies i've been meaning to address to make it actually useable ;)
<tcsc>
i also hope visual basic isn't as high as it is on that list
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<apeiros>
visual basic is in corpocrate everywhere
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<tcsc>
i always thought vb was the php of gui development but thats just me
<art-solopov>
apeiros: You mean stuff like macros and stuff?
<apeiros>
I think "Delphi is kinda PHP of GUI development" is a very apt assessment
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<apeiros>
art-solopov: macros and glue
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<apeiros>
art-solopov: also GUI apps (instead of e.g. delphi)
<certainty>
delphi is only the IDE isn't it? It's object pascal, i mean the language
<art-solopov>
certainty: Yes, but IIRC the only realisation of that language aside from Delphi is Lazarus.
<apeiros>
certainty: I thought also some libs, but /me is largely ignorant about delphi
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<certainty>
i'm ignorant about it too :)
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<art-solopov>
apeiros: I mean, more than 50% of the bachelor projects at our uni were like "Duuuuh, lessa take MS Access and slappa some Delphi forms onto it!"
<certainty>
art-solopov: ah, i see. Didn't know lazarus
<art-solopov>
certainty: Lazarus is, basically, open source Delphi.
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<apeiros>
yeah, many colleagues at ETH zurich also used delphi
<certainty>
personally i think that list is crap
<apeiros>
but then again… that's now ~10y ago
<certainty>
they say nothing about the specific under which it was derived
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<certainty>
specifics
<apeiros>
hm? afaik they document how the value is measured
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<tcsc>
i'd also be surprised if there was more objective-c than c++ code out there
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<tcsc>
but maybe thats just my personal experience biasing me
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<shevy>
ruby dropped in one year by 5 ranks
<shevy>
I estimate that according to TIOBE, this means that either ruby lost like 20% of its developers
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<shevy>
OR there was like a massive gain in new programmers for the other programming languages during that time
<certainty>
apeiros: that's still a lame index. The sources of information are questionable at least. Well they don't really say what the index is useful for apart from vague phrases so that's perfectly fine probably. This way they can justify inaccuracy.
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<shevy>
the coolest is TransactSQL
<shevy>
it reads to me like "INSERT MS ADVERTIZEMENT HERE"
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<art-solopov>
Can anyone help me on Mongoid?
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<FenixFyreX>
can anyone help with installation of the ruby glfw3 gem by nilium?
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<sobersabre>
hi.
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<sobersabre>
I want to add logging to my code, and I'm looking at 'logging' gem.
<sobersabre>
what dangers it hides ?
<sobersabre>
:)
<sobersabre>
I mean performance, etc.
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<shevy>
FenixFyreX did you download the .gem yet
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<FenixFyreX>
I have tried building it both locally and from the repository
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<FenixFyreX>
I think its rather that I'm not installing glfw3 right on my system, because there is no glfw3.pc file anywhere to be found, only glfw3.pc.in
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<art-solopov>
I have a question. I have a part which must be loaded before all tests (namely, Mongoid configuration). I tried putting it into Rakefile, but it didn't seem to propagate into actual tests. I use Minitest as testing framework. I see three ways: 1. Putting it into setup; 2. Overriding initialize; 3. Putting it into helper module which will do it and write several @@ variables. Which is better?
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<shevy>
FenixFyreX yeah glfw3.pc.in is used to create the glfw3.pc file
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<FenixFyreX>
shevy how do you do that though? This is what I can't figure out. :P
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<shevy>
normally when you compile from source
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<shevy>
some part of GNU does it, I think gnu autoconf ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/autoconf/
<shevy>
those .in files are very ugly to read
<shevy>
well
<shevy>
not for .pc files
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<shevy>
because they are small
<shevy>
Version: @VERSION@
<shevy>
Requires: @VTE_PKGS@
<shevy>
but still, quite ugly
<shevy>
most .pc files are only like 10 lines
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<FenixFyreX>
shevy, I've just built glfw3 correctly using msys makefiles. all glfw3 examples run great via their exe files. However, there is still no glfw3.pc in the src directory?
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<shevy>
hmm
<shevy>
it should normally reside in pkgconfig/glfw3.pc
<shevy>
or rather, $PREFIX_YOU_USED_FOR_COMPILATION/pkgconfig/glfw3.pc
<shevy>
I dont know what is glfw3 really btw
<shevy>
I left the windows world 10 years ago :)
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<shevy>
pkg-config usually finds the proper .pc files... 'pkg-config --modversion glib-2.0 --cflags'
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<adkron>
How would I map double *y in FFI? Also struct foo **x?
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<havenwood>
shevy: i *may* spend too much time on the Githubs :P
<shevy>
hehe
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<havenwood>
though if you're actually using OS X as a multi-user system, brew isn't appropriate
<Nilium>
Hm, odd that the guy was asking how to install my GLFW3 gem but didn't create an issue and didn't ping me at all.
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<Nilium>
brew routinely craps itself if you try to keep /usr/local root-owned.
<pontiki>
i find that sort of behaviour rather normal, really
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<Nilium>
It'll sort of work for a while and then something will get very, very weird
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<pontiki>
who shares a development machine anymore?
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<Nilium>
People with multiple personalities
<danno1>
Can I do an assert without extending a TestCase?
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<pontiki>
touché Nilium
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<pontiki>
nevertheless, we all use the same account
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<Nilium>
Eating ultra-dry leftover chicken is extremely challenging.
<apeiros>
danno1: all assertions are in Minitest::Assertions
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<apeiros>
(or Test::Unit::Assertions iirc, if you don't want to use minitest)
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<benzrf>
hej da
<benzrf>
i had an idea
<benzrf>
o wait this is #ruby not ##programming
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<shevy>
lol
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<matti>
;]
<matti>
Oh no.
<matti>
I am on entirely wrong channel then!
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<The_NetZ>
hey. supposing I have a set of nested arrays, say [[1, "Foo", foodata], [2, "Bar", bardata], [3, "Baz", bazdata]], and I want to transfer this data into a hash, say data = { Foo: => foodata, Bar: => bardata, Baz: => bazdata } what would be the optimal way to do this? (and yes, I am excluding the first items in the array deliberatly.)
<budrose>
shevy: Python has an 'easy' flag for bugs targeting new contributors, is there a similar thing in ruby?
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<shevy>
budrose the website is in english, you won't need japanese, but many japanese devs have bad english so it helps if you can complement the missing grammar mentally for them
<crome_>
or simply come up with a better method cache
<crome_>
there is some work to be done there
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<shevy>
budrose don't think there is unfortunately, the very best is to find some feature or bug that was approved but noone has added it yet, or done a patch
<shevy>
budrose matz works mostly on mruby these days - nobu is the one maintaining default ruby; https://github.com/mruby/mruby