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<weeb1e_> Lightsword: Let me know exactly what you're trying to do, if you haven't already found a solution
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<Lightsword> weeble_, trying to make http and raw tcp socket requsts over ssh tunnels
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<Lightsword> but I have issues if I open too many ports
<Lightsword> so what I’m trying to do is open 50 ports and start making requests as each request comes back I need to close the port and open the next
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<Lightsword> and add that new port to the eventmachine loop
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<weeb1e_> Lightsword: So queue any requests after your limit is exhausted, and as one socket closes, pop the next request from the queue
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<Lightsword> I’m using multi.callback right now but I’m not sure how to add additional requests https://github.com/igrigorik/em-http-request/wiki/Parallel-Requests
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<Lightsword> I figured how to open the ports when one finishes but I’m having issues with eventmachine and addint more requests to it
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<weeb1e_> Lightsword: If you use a multi callback, your application is going to have to wait for the full batch of requests to complete before starting a new batch
<weeb1e_> It would be better to start the next request as soon as one finishes
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<Lightsword> so I shouldn’t use the multi interface at all?
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<weeb1e_> Probably not, instead loop manually: outstanding_requests = 0; 50.times do outstanding_requests += 1; start_next_request end
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<weeb1e_> Then from the callback of a request, check if the queue is empty, if so "outstanding_requests -= 1; all_requests_complete if outstanding_requests < 1", else call start_next_request again
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<Fire-Dragon-DoL> WTF happened to rubygems
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<Fire-Dragon-DoL> llol
<Fire-Dragon-DoL> like OVERNIGHT! :P
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<lacrymology> will gem install gems globally by default?
<agent_white> evenin' folks
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<jhass> lacrymology yes
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<jhass> /etc/gemrc and ~/.gemrc may influence that behavior
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<lacrymology> so I guess I should run gem install with sudo?
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<jhass> if you want to install the gem globally
<jhass> do you get a permission error or why are you asking?
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<lacrymology> jhass: no, it was taking a while and I didn't want to waste time and then find out I should have done it
<jhass> then continue waitng
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<agent_white> Is there a way to add custom methods to irb? I made a method and tossed it into .irbrc, but when I open irb I can't seem to call it.
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<agent_white> Odd... nevermind. May have just opened the wrong irbrc file.. ;P
<weeb1e_> lacrymology: Also make sure your rubygems is up to date, older versions are orders of magnitude slower
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<agent_white> Actually, problem not solved.
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<parabolize> agent_white: seems to work for me. Could you paste your irbrc?
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<guyze> what is the difference between rails 3 and 4?
<eam> one
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<guyze> okay eam
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<guyze> what about programming language versions why do they get updated?\
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<jhass> guyze: http://guides.rubyonrails.org/4_0_release_notes.html, in the future please ask Rails questions in #RubyOnRails
<agent_white> parabolize: I figured it out :) I had to add the gem "pry-rails" to my project, then in my .pryrc I just added the method via `class Object; def foo();end;end;`
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<guyze> thank you jhass
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<guyze> what is the difference between ruby 1.8.7 and 2.1.4
<guyze> why are there version numbers in ruby?
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<jhass> lol
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<guyze> is ruby a program?
<eam> jhass: ;-)
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<parabolize> agent_white: Why are you still using irb anyway? Switch to pry.
<agent_white> parabolize: I use pry :)
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<rubie> is it possible to write a method that will create another method?
<jhass> ruby, the language changes, it's not strictly versioned but as the reference implementation, MRI, adds new features we tend to say things like "this was introduced in ruby 2.1.4" where 2.1.4 is the MRI version
<jhass> guyze: ^
<jhass> and for the differences just google
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<jhass> rubie: yes
<jhass> you know a few already in fact, attr_reader and so on
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<eam> eval is the ultimate method that does arbitrary other things
<guyze> jhass: oh... i still have a lot to learn
<rubie> jhass: i was just thinking if it woudl be possible to use binary search on an unsorted list if you could create methods that would make methods that woudl search smaller and smaller parts of the list
<rubie> is that possible?
<guyze> thank you for trying to explain it to me
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<rubie> or is this just recursion
<jhass> rubie: possible yes. I don't think it makes a whole lot of sense to be honest
<parabolize> rubie: the list would have to exist while the code is being evaluated
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<eam> parabolize: nah, you could do it at runtime
<rubie> would having 4 methods all using linear search be faster than having method 4x bigger doing linear search?
<eam> rubie: can't say without specifics. The best thing to do is to try it out yourself
<rubie> i have no idea how, its just theory
<eam> it all depends on how exactly you write your methods
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<eam> rubie: it is generally faster to pass parameters vs playing around with dynamic methods
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<tmoore> rubie: you'd have to run on multiple threads... and you don't really need different methods, they would just need to take start and end index as parameters
<tmoore> if you're running them on a single thread, one after another, it wouldn't be faster than just iterating through the entire thing in one method... you'd be iterating through the entire thing anyway
<eam> what's idiomatic ruby to take f(foo: nil, bar: nil) and merge into some_hash as {foo: foo} only if not foo.nil?
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<tmoore> eam: some_hash[foo] = foo if foo
<jhass> mmh, some_hash.merge({foo: foo, bar: bar}) {|key, old, new| new ? new : old } ?
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<tmoore> whoops some_hash[:foo] = foo if foo (forgot the :)
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<eam> aha thanks folks
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<eam> is there a way to grab named arguments as a hash?
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<eam> jhass: I think I'm going to avoid the ternary:
<eam> >> {a: 6, b: 7}.merge({a: 5, b: nil}) {|k,old, new| new or old}
<eval-in__> eam => {:a=>5, :b=>7} (https://eval.in/223314)
<tmoore> eam: do you want to access them by name *and* as a hash, or just as a hash?
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<eam> tmoore: potentially both
<eam> but what did you have in mind?
<tmoore> not using the keyword argument syntax but just falling back on the old way of doing it...
<eam> ah yeah
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<tmoore> def my_method(opts = {})
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<eam> I wanted to supply the same calling convention
<tmoore> otherwise I don't think there is a way to grab all of them as a hash
<tmoore> eam: that still works with the same calling convention
<eam> oh, it would, wouldn't it
<parabolize> Couldn't you subclass Hash or just take in the arguments and assign to a hash?
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<tmoore> parabolize: I can't think of why you would need to subclass Hash
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<tmoore> eam http://stackoverflow.com/a/26552104/29470 not too pretty :-P
<centrx> agent_white, y u no #rubyonrails-offtopic
<agent_white> centrx: wait wat
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<eam> tmoore: ah, that's gross. I like gross
<tmoore> haha
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<jhass> eam: you can do **kwargs which is like *args
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<jhass> but that's basically the same as accepting a hash
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<eam> would I be able to set default values?
<eam> f(foo: 5)
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<zacts> I can't wait for rvm2
<zacts> rvm1 is a pile of poo, but it's very useful
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<jhass> nope
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<zacts> I'll be back to reading my ruby books soon though.
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<tmoore> the problem with **kwargs is that it doesn't include any of the explicitly named ones
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<elemenopy> Cheers Everyone! just wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction for a very very simplistic GET request that returns JSON?
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<gr33n7007h> elemenopy, Net::HTTP.get_response(URI.parse('http://ifconfig.me/all.json'))
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<elemenopy> ty im checkin it out :)
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<MartynKeigher> hey all.. im having a simple issue with some ruby code. i am trying to return a sql value, which is a percentage (result is actually 88),, but my rb file (job) is returning a '1', ie: the number of rows the query returns. i want it to return "88" not "1". can someone please point me in the right direction with this? Thanks. Here is the code http://pastebin.com/7cjCrYW7
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<MartynKeigher> i know im missing something simple. the SQL query is 100% correct. im just returning the wrong value.
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<centrx> MartynKeigher, How does this code "return"?
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<jhass> you assume that we magically know which database gem you use there, but line 11 looks weird
<tmoore> MartynKeigher: first of all... object.each what is 'object' there... is that meant to be result?
<tmoore> results rather
<MartynKeigher> the returned value displays on a dashboard
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<MartynKeigher> oh sorry.. jhass .. im using mysql2 gem
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<MartynKeigher> i need the result 88 to show. not 1 (is in the no. of rows)
<MartynKeigher> the dashboard is live. dash.managedservic.es
<jhass> note that it includes Enumerable
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<tmoore> I think you want to use results.first['stat20'] MartynKeigher
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<MartynKeigher> i saw that too tmoore .. still no dice still showing "1"
<tmoore> can you post the updated code?
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<MartynKeigher> k sec
<MartynKeigher> im no ruby whizz thats for sure. im just learning
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<tmoore> MartynKeigher: in that code, current_stat20 is not defined anywhere
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<Duckily> if i have x number of records (say 321) and i want to iterate over them and only end up with 100 evenly distributed
<Duckily> how would one do that?
<Duckily> general programming
<tmoore> you mean choose 100 at random from the list? Duckily
<Duckily> tmoore: no, evenly distributed
<Duckily> so if i used modulus, i would either end up with 3 (rounded down) or 4 (rounded up)
<Duckily> and only add every 3rd or 4th
<Duckily> ill gist it, but i’d like to have an idea of the process of figuring it out, rather than just the solution
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<tmoore> Duckily: it might help to break the problem down... 1. how would you do it if you were always rounding down? 2. how would you do it if you were always rounding up? 3. how can you decide whether to round down or up?
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<tmoore> all can be solved with different uses of mod I think
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<tmoore> (but if always rounding down or always rounding up is acceptable for your problem, it becomes much simpler)
<Duckily> tmoore: yeah i know, but its too much variance
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<Duckily> tmoore: rounding up i would do: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/54e1770399667072f6bf
<tmoore> yep that looks good to me
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<Duckily> tmoore: but that won’t yield 100
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<Duckily> if i use ceil, the average is often far too few records, if i use floor, its far too many
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<Duckily> if i display over 100 (on map) the map breaks
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<tmoore> what if you alternate between ceil and floor?
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<Duckily> tmoore: right, so my solution would be to take the decimal of the modulus, and alternat at that rate betwee ceil and floor
<Duckily> tmoore: that should in theory work right?
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<Duckily> tmoore: just wondering if there’s a better solution
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<tmoore> Duckily: maybe but that one sounds good to me
<Duckily> found a much simpler one
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<tmoore> that sounds less efficient
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<tmoore> oh no I misread
<tmoore> neat
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<Duckily> tmoore: why does he subtract 1 when calculating the step?
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<Duckily> if you want 1 record, it would cause an error?
<louism2wash> Hey guys, is there a way I can take an array of strings and convert it into a list of arguments to a method?
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<tmoore> "i step through n-1 times and then always add the last element to the end" I guess he wants to make sure the last element is always in there
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<tmoore> that does seem wrong though
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<tmoore> shouldn't it be length - 1?
<Duckily> tmoore: couldn’t you just round?
<tmoore> yeah not sure really... sorry have to get back to work :-)
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<Duckily> tmoore: ok thatnks!
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<lampd1> if you guys needed to create a simple index that only needs to be one table with two columns, what would you use?
<lampd1> redis?
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<lampd1> :D
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<lampd1> bueller?
<Duckily> lampd1: for what?
<Duckily> lampd1: platform, etc
<lampd1> skraight up ruby
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<lampd1> building a functional app to bridge an api and flat files
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<lampd1> want to reduce api calls by building an index to store some values
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<lampd1> already planning on using sidekiq, and redis for logging/tracking deferred jobs, why i was thinking of just using redis fo dis
<lampd1> what you think Duckily
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<Duckily> it depends on what you want to do with the data
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<Duckily> lampd1: i mean there’s a big difference between an rdbms
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<lampd1> pretty much just relate one value to the other
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<pontiki2> hi ruby
<agent_white> Heya pontiki! \o
<pontiki2> hello, agent white
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<agent_white> How are you this evening?
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<pontiki2> recovering, agent_white
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<agent_white> :o I hope your recovery is going well! Fighting a virus?
<pontiki2> had some minor surgery this morning
<pontiki2> i'm being kept o'night for observation
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<agent_white> Oh no! :( What for if you don't mind me asking?
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<agent_white> I hope you're doing well!!
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<agent_white> Also -- Is there any good articles anyone can point me towards for sandboxing ruby? Looking to make a ruby eval bot, but I've had no such luck finding articles on doing so.
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<Hanmac> agent_white: ask charliesome
<agent_white> I did and he said the bot sourcecode was not publicly available :(
<charliesome> the sandbox is a hacked up version of this: http://www.ucw.cz/moe/
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<agent_white> charliesome: Oh rad! Thank you
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<pontiki2> agent_white: in a bit of pain, but on the whole, okay
<pontiki2> the reasons are TMI
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<agent_white> pontiki2: :( Well... I guess that's better than being not-okay!
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<agent_white> Get better! :)
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<pontiki2> thanks, agent_white
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<bellow> Hello
<bellow> What type of Gel medium should I use when transferring a picture to wood? I have tried Liquitex® String Gel Medium.I have let it sit for over 12 hours and the picture pulls right up when trying to get the paper off
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<sevenseacat> err... what
<sevenseacat> wrong channel?
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<bellow> Then what is the right channel
<sevenseacat> for what?
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<pontiki2> that's a win for nonsequitur question
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<bellow> What type of Gel medium should I use when transferring a picture to wood? I have tried Liquitex® String Gel Medium.I have let it sit for over 12 hours and the picture pulls right up when trying to get the paper off
<sevenseacat> lol
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<pontiki2> bellow: why are you asking woodworking questions in a computer programming channel devoted to the ruby language??
<bellow> Not a woodworking question
<pontiki2> it has *NOTHING* to do with computer programming either
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<pontiki2> did you just mash some keys together?
<bellow> FINE
<bellow> THERE WHERE SHOUYLD I ASK
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<pontiki2> HOW THE FUCK SHOULD WE KNOW??
<sevenseacat> !popcorn2
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<sevenseacat> try google.
<bellow> I did
<bellow> no help
<sevenseacat> lol
<bellow> lol
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<sevenseacat> i seem to recall him asking something equally stupid here before
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<wpp> good morning
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<hephaestus_rg> can someone help me figure out why i can't install this gem? http://paste.ubuntu.com/9090505/
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<Abhijit> hephaestus_rg, have you tried doing gem install unf_ext -v '0.0.6'
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<hephaestus_rg> yeah. it didn't print anything in the console, just exited. then i tried to bundle again and the same thing happened
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<hephaestus_rg> i suspect it might be related to the c compiler somehow. is there some way to verify that everything is correct with that
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<Abhijit> hephaestus_rg, try executing a simple c program from terminal?
<Abhijit> with gcc
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<hephaestus_rg> i don't know of any specific c programs
<hephaestus_rg> do i need to write one?
<Abhijit> yes
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<Abhijit> hephaestus_rg, that is to just check if gcc is working or not.
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<bweston92> I can't install ruby 2.1.3 using `ruby-install` because apparently libraries don't exist. Does anyone else have this issue?
<hephaestus_rg> ok so i have a ctest.c file, how do i test gcc? `gcc ctest.c` returned nothing and exited
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<hephaestus_rg> window 3
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<gr33n7007h> hephaestus_rg, gcc -o ctest ctest.c
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<hephaestus_rg> ok i did that and it printed nothing
<hephaestus_rg> (i wrote a hello world program)
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<hephaestus_rg> if i do ./ctest it does print hello world though
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<hephaestus_rg> so if my gcc technically works
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<hephaestus_rg> so if my gcc technically works, i'm not sure what the issue is
<hephaestus_rg> "error 4" was not a very helpful keyword for google
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<Abhijit> hephaestus_rg, paste your c program
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<Abhijit> hephaestus_rg, to pastebin that is.
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<hephaestus_rg> that's the c program. it's the simplest thing i could come up with Abhijit
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<Abhijit> hephaestus_rg, gcc file.c will create one .o file
<Abhijit> run that file
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<Luser> Hey guys, do you think it is possible to run this repo https://github.com/rikiji/rmotion ? I am having troubles with setting it up..
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<hephaestus_rg> Abhijit: no .o file, at least it's not in `ls`
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<maasha> wruuuum, wruuum
<maasha> narray is driving me nuts :o(
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<maasha> I want to count all non-zero positions in an integer narray: (na > 0).sum - but that is clearly a wrong result. I get the right by doing (na.where > 0).size - but for fucks sake - why is the first not working?
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<maasha> I think the issue is that (na > 0) returns a byte array, and summing this overflows the 256 char array. However, if I do (na > o).to_i.sum it is the same thing. It appears that a byte narray cannot be converted to an int narray ?
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<maasha> (NArray.int(300).indgen! > 0).sum
<maasha> 43
<maasha> expecting 299
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<hephaestus_rg> Abhijit: my VM was out of memory was the root cause. i killed some memory hungry processes and it worked.
<hephaestus_rg> all good now
<hephaestus_rg> thanks for the suggestions though
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<arup_r> Hi .... I am facing problem to require the minimagick gem https://gist.github.com/aruprakshit/fa29bc06995908d8babe
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<arup_r> It is now 15 mins .. but still not loaded... What could be the reason?
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<Phonetiki> hi again
<arup_r> Any idea ?
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<agent_white> Hehe tiki that name is awesome
* maasha kicks narray
<sevenseacat> arup_r: i dont think ive ever seen anyone ask as many pointless questions as you.
<arup_r> Yes... sevenseacat: Me too
<maasha> sevenseacat: I take that as a complement :o)
<arup_r> But that's the point.. It is weired
<sevenseacat> arup_r: that wasnt a compliment.
<maasha> sevenseacat: you misunderstood. For me it was
<arup_r> sevenseacat: Did you get the question?
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<agent_white> So I'm wanting to make my own sandbox for a ruby eval bot, and was looking at Sandrbox for inspiration. The question I have is: how did they determine which methods/constants to blacklist? (blacklist here -- ariables have types and data do not have types. In contrast,
<agent_white> eep
<zenspider> sevenseacat: don't bother. it is pointless
<zenspider> agent_white: if that spawns from _why's original work, I believe the answer is via manual code inspection
<maasha> Do anyone have an idea how mature NArray is compared to Numpy (I never used the latter)?
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<arup_r> zenspider: Which one is pointless?
<agent_white> zenspider: Oh wow! Yeah this is also the first time I've ever actually looked at the ruby source code... man o man there's lots.
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<zenspider> that _can't_ be enough methods tho, can it?
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<agent_white> zenspider: I couldn't find the source code to his "freaky freaky sandbox" anywhere :(
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<agent_white> zenspider: I have no idea! :P
<zenspider> arup_r: getting you to figure your own shit out or at least learn to ask better questions.
<arup_r> zenspider: What you didn't get from my question ?
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<agent_white> zenspider: I did see the comment thread where he got his inspiration though... maybe it'll be a good start to look for hints. http://viewsourcecode.org/why/redhanded/inspect/lessMethod_missingInMarkaby.html#comments
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<zenspider> arup_r: it's not MY lack of understanding in question here
<arup_r> It is clear at all.. I am trying to do `require mini_magick` but I am not able to do.. It got hanged in IRB at every attempt
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<zenspider> agent_white: there's also the IRC bot here that has some level of sanitization / safety. I dunno where the source is, but someone does.
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<arup_r> gem is there.. but not able to requite it in IRB..
<arup_r> zenspider: ^^
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<agent_white> zenspider: I asked charlie about it, the source isn't available but he showed me where the inspiration came from!
<zenspider> hrm... a closed source bot is just begging to be taken down :)
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<agent_white> ;DD
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<zenspider> OK. so there's a bad constant listing for IO
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<zenspider> >> IO
<eval-in__> zenspider => IO (https://eval.in/223445)
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<zenspider> >> IO.popen("/bin/ls /") { |f| f.read }
<eval-in__> zenspider => (https://eval.in/223446)
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<agent_white> >> $$
<eval-in__> agent_white => 15181 (https://eval.in/223447)
<arup_r> zenspider: It is solved .. when I open IRB in a new shell session.. This usecase is first time for me.. Got the hints from someone else SHIT http://stackoverflow.com/q/16108152/2767755
<agent_white> >> $0
<eval-in__> agent_white => "/tmp/execpad-6110d4dd366c/source-6110d4dd366c" (https://eval.in/223448)
<zenspider> arup_r: why do you think I care?
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<sevenseacat> its amazing what actually googling a problem can solve.
<agent_white> >> $^
<eval-in__> agent_white => /tmp/execpad-8b9b832a7f6f/source-8b9b832a7f6f:2: `$^' is not allowed as a global variable name ... (https://eval.in/223449)
<sevenseacat> instead of running to ask on irc every single time
<arup_r> zenspider: Because you have shown your interest at your first comment towards my question..
<zenspider> I know, right? it's kinda amazing
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<zenspider> arup_r: your reading comprehension is deplorable
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<sevenseacat> some of it you can attribute to a language barrier, the rest.... i dunno
<arup_r> zenspider: Humm... I know at-least for you..
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<zenspider> sevenseacat: In this case "some" is asymptotically approaching zero over time
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<zenspider> way more attributed to lack of effort / care
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<gregf_> arup_r: you like being trampled upon :/. c'mon man you;re better than people think you are ;)
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<zenspider> where's the improvement over time?
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<arup_r> gregf_ :-)
<gregf_> arup_r: but yeah, things you can do yourself, do them yourself :/
<arup_r> I do understand `:-)` but not `:/`.. What does it mean? :-)
<agent_white> google till your fingers bleed!
<gregf_> heh
<gregf_> agent_white++
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<arup_r> gregf_: attitude matters... :-)
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<gregf_> well.... patience is the key. but yeah one can run out of patience too.. at times :/
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<arup_r> gregf_ That's why I don't use Minitest(lack of patience).. I use Rspec.. ;)
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<arup_r> gregf_ anyway got to go..Nice to chat with you.. :-)
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<cibernox> Hi, I have one weird question. I have a project with ruby 1.9 and I would like to update it to 2.1 or 2.2 but I won’t get that to be approved by client’s devops if there is no unavoidable requiremente to update
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<cibernox> so the only thing I need is a gem that doesn’t work in ruby 1.9 to add it in the gemfile
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<cibernox> anyone knows any gem that requires ruby 2.0?
<cibernox> other than a pry-byebug and such
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<cibernox> i don’t care what it does :D
<cibernox> just needs to be incompatibe with 1.9
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<shevy> wat
<shevy> crazy requirement
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<shevy> in general, any .gemspec that should have something like: s.required_ruby_version = '>= 2.0' should suffice
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<shevy> hmm
<shevy> they redesigned rubygems.org recently
<shevy> takes me a bit to find
<shevy> cibernox I think you can create a dummy gem
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<sevenseacat> wow they did redesign it.... thats only been in the last couple days
<arup_r> File.join("a/b","../tmp/a.rb") # => "a/b/../tmp/a.rb"
<arup_r> But I want "a/tmp/a.rb"
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<shevy> cibernox this is a skeleton you could use http://pastie.org/9729683
<arup_r> How to do so ?
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<cibernox> sure I can, but I would like to use a 3rd party one to dissemble the real purpose
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<cibernox> I don’t really thing devops will care enough to investigate what the gem does
<shevy> don't know of any gem that has a hardcoded requirement on ruby 2.0 and higher
<cibernox> but maybe enough to check is it’s mine
<cibernox> xD
<arup_r> Actually I am using __dir__ in place of "a/b" in my code.. where I want to move up one level dir,,, then join
<shevy> after all gem authors lose people using ancient ruby; though actually 1.9 is not that ancient
<shevy> arup_r File.expand_path() I think
<shevy> >> File.expand_path "a/b/../tmp/a.rb"
<eval-in__> shevy => "/tmp/execpad-a8b0f7c4b457/a/tmp/a.rb" (https://eval.in/223465)
<shevy> man this stupid bot
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<shevy> ok it assumes a valid dir
<shevy> I am sure there is some other way
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<shevy> on my system it did this:
<cibernox> I’ll find some gem using rubygems filter then
<shevy> File.expand_path "a/b/../tmp/a.rb" # => "/Depot/j/a/tmp/a.rb"
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<arup_r> Ok.. I somewhere saw __dir__ with File::join
<arup_r> But now forgot
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<unshadow> >> a = %x(ls /tmp); puts a
<eval-in__> unshadow => (https://eval.in/223466)
<unshadow> lol :)
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<shevy> yeah it does not want you to try and break out unshadow
<shevy> it's a prison bot after all
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<zenspider> cibernox: If it comes to it, I will happily publish a gem that requires 2.0 for you. I will probably call it upgrade_to_20 :)
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<cibernox> lol
<shevy> hehe
<gregf_> arup_r: File.join("a/b".gsub!(/\w+$/,""),"../tmp/a.rb") ?
<cibernox> what is what happens when a client has square-headed devops that refuse to update anything
<gregf_> ah - nevrmind shevy++
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<cibernox> ever
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<mrgrieves> Good Morning! I'm trying a few things with puppet's facter and rspec and was wondering if someone here can provide some guidance. I have a sample module with a sample fact https://github.com/dansanabria/facter_sandbox.git , and I have set up my env to run rspec with the necessary helpers etc ... The first question I have is: How can I mock the get_fact method on my spec?
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<mrgrieves> currently when I run rspec spec I get the following: http://pastebin.com/9StBaRMa
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<unshadow> well..
<unshadow> >> a = %x("() { :;}; ls /tmp/")
<eval-in__> unshadow => (https://eval.in/223472)
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<unshadow> damn... it is a good bot
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<shevy> yeah, Hanmac tried to break it for some weeks
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<shevy> then he conceded that he could no longer break it
<shevy> then the bot was declared fail-save
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<unshadow> >> a = Dir.pwd; puts a
<eval-in__> unshadow => /tmp/execpad-1fd02c9db250 ... (https://eval.in/223487)
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<unshadow> hm...
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<unshadow> Is it ok for me to play with it for fun ?
<unshadow> can I send commands without making the channel look like a ruby pastebin ?
<canton7> go directly to eval.in
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<agent_white> >> $$
<eval-in__> agent_white => 15324 (https://eval.in/223489)
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<agent_white> shevy: Speaking of, I'm attempting to learn how to sandbox ruby to make my own ruby eval bot.
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<agent_white> Diving into ruby internals for the first time. eeee!
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<shevy> agent_white cool
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<maasha> README.ext is a great start
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<agent_white> maasha: Yeah I'm checking that out now! First time even peeping at the ruby source
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<agent_white> I feel fancy.
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<maasha> agent_white: and with inlineruby you can do neat low level stuff.
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<agent_white> maasha: The perl module?
<maasha> agent_white: there is a similar in ruby
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<maasha> agent_white: rubyinline
<agent_white> maasha: Ooo I'll have to check it out! Thank you! :D
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<maasha> agent_white: the ruby one is much easier to work with IMHO.
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<maasha> agent_white: Here I used it for dynamic programming to align sequences: https://code.google.com/p/biopieces/source/browse/trunk/code_ruby/lib/maasha/seq/dynamic.rb
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<agent_white> maasha: Ooo...
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<workcat> Hello
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<shevy> wow
<shevy> workcat!
<shevy> look sevenseacat it is yet ANOTHER cat!
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<workcat> how can I run passenger-install-apache2-module in the background?
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<workcat> it takes forever to compile on rpi
<workcat> and the ssh session dies before it is done
<canton7> in a screen session?
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<workcat> I run the command over ssh
<canton7> my suggestion still stands
<workcat> and I got broken pipe error after a few hours
<canton7> still standing
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<txdv> ooo compardre shevy, you have so much cat
<workcat> so how do I do that?
<canton7> man screen
<canton7> (or look online - there are literally tons of tutorials)
<workcat> yes yes
<shevy> txdv it's a cat's world man
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<txdv> i eat cat this morning, taste very good
<sevenseacat> there can be only one!
* sevenseacat stabs workcat
<txdv> damn it
<txdv> im so bored with my life
<txdv> im actually ready to try some dog and cat meat
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<txdv> but i guess it will be nothing special
<shevy> you are losing yourself man
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<txdv> shevy: matz better bring those types in ruby or ill get even more bored
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<shevy> hmm
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<shevy> will a typed ruby be the same old ruby
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<canton7> even php has strong typing nowadays... a bit
<txdv> it will be unless you specify types
<shevy> php has?
<txdv> canton7: em hvvm/hack has
<txdv> a special implementation with extensions by facebook
<shevy> OMG
<shevy> IT HAS
<txdv> what is this
<txdv> types in php but no types in ruby
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<txdv> matz plz fix
<deepy> Let's all embrace duck typing
<waxjar> it'd be neat if you could say "this object needs to respond to these methods"
<canton7> yeah, I was toying around with that idea a while back
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<canton7> it's pretty easy to implement I seem to remember
<shevy> public function test_array(array $input_array) {
<canton7> define a module as the "interface", then check that all methods on the module are implemented by the thing being passed in
<shevy> deepy FIX THOSE DAMN DUCKS!!!
<shevy> I am tired of ducks, I want chickens
<shevy> or cats
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<bewees> hi
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<deepy> shevy: let's all embrace cat typing
<shevy> yeah
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<workcat> Cat typing sounds nice
<bewees> Should I use ruby2.X or ruby 1.9.3 considering I want to work with selenium-webdriver
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<waxjar> go with the latest if you don't know :)
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<AlexRussia> hey
<AlexRussia> does somebody can explain me 'with' keyword?
<AlexRussia> like with <something> <code-block>
<tobiasvl> AlexRussia: it's not a keyword, isn't it a method? used in rails?
<AlexRussia> if it exist, ofc, i am found it here http://govnokod.ru/17095#comment254028
<AlexRussia> maybe
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<maasha> ruby moving from duck typing to bug typing
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<AlexRussia> maasha: yep :(
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<waxjar> this type checker is supposed to run at runtime no?
<waxjar> or just before it, like after the syntax is checked?
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<maasha> *error* type mismatch: your number is not sufficiently numeric
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<AlexRussia> *uck, no comments... http://govnokod.ru/16876
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<tobiasvl> comments on what? that link doesn't have with
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<AlexRussia> tobiasvl: no, i didn't mean comment(s) itself :(
<AlexRussia> tobiasvl: i meaning, this code so fun ^_^
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<bewees> Do you recommend to use Poltergeist+Capybara or Watir-webdriver?
<bewees> I want to login to a website and download a site
<sevenseacat> neither
<bewees> sevenseacat, Which one do you recommend?
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<sevenseacat> use mechanize
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<bewees> Does mechanize support javascript in ruby? In python it doesn't.
<krz> qunit + ember
<krz> its the future
<krz> :P
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<agent_white> >> "x".class.superclass.superclass.superclass
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<eval-in__> agent_white => nil (https://eval.in/223518)
<agent_white> THE CLASS OF BASICOBJECT IS NIL
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<tobiasvl> nil is god
<agent_white> !
<deepy> >> nil.class
<eval-in__> deepy => NilClass (https://eval.in/223519)
<deepy> >> nil.class.superclass
<eval-in__> deepy => Object (https://eval.in/223520)
<agent_white> WAT
<agent_white> >> nil.superclass
<eval-in__> agent_white => undefined method `superclass' for nil:NilClass (NoMethodError) ... (https://eval.in/223521)
<teotwaki> why would nil have a superclass method?
<Hanmac> agent_white: do you know that the singleton_class of a singleton_class can have a singleton_class? ;P
<agent_white> teotwaki: Because who watches the watchers?!
<agent_white> Hanmac: Oh lord... I'm dipping my toes into metaprogramming as we speak. This stuff is crazy.
<teotwaki> the watcher-watchers watch the watchers
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<deepy> agent_white: what's the class of Object?
<agent_white> deepy: Class
<agent_white> And the Class of Class is Class.
<deepy> What's the superclass of Class?
<agent_white> AND THEN
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* agent_white 's mind explodes
<agent_white> BasicObject
<deepy> Isn't it Module?
<agent_white> deepy: eeep you're right!
<deepy> Now what you need to do is draw this, make a chart out of it
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<deepy> What's the class of Module?
<agent_white> Class
<agent_white> And the superclass is BasicObject
<agent_white> deepy: Haha yeah I'm on it! Got my notepad going right now
<deepy> or is it?
<deepy> >> Module.class.superclass
<eval-in__> deepy => Module (https://eval.in/223536)
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<agent_white> Whoa
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<Hanmac> now i drop the Bomb: i say "Module is a Class!" XD
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<deepy> Hanmac: sorry, we beat you to it :(
<agent_white> Whoa
<deepy> But good contribution nonetheless
<agent_white> >> class A; end; class B < A; end; B.superclass
<eval-in__> agent_white => A (https://eval.in/223540)
<Hanmac> deepy: did you know that you can store classes, modules and other constants into the eigenclass/singleton_class of objects?
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<deepy> I've no clue, I'm a Python/Java programmer
<deepy> I just hang around here to whine when things go wrong with Diaspora
<agent_white> Lets say I have `class A; class B; end; end;` . How do I get the outer class? Say if I did `c = ::A::B`. What would I call on C to get a return value of A ?
<agent_white> call on "c" **
<Hanmac> deepy:
<Hanmac> >> o = Object.new; class << o; CONST = "ABC"; end; o.singleton_class::CONST
<eval-in__> Hanmac => "ABC" (https://eval.in/223543)
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<deepy> I can't think of any usecase
<AliRezaTaleghani> how can I use ruby as webDAV client to upload a file on webdav server?
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<AliRezaTaleghani> I found this https://github.com/taf2/curb
<AliRezaTaleghani> but it's put example dose no thing :-/
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<AliRezaTaleghani> webDAV is new for me and I can't figure it out how to upload a local file on webDAV server by the help of ruby codes :-/
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<agent_white> Seems like it all ends at BasicObject
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<agent_white> Class's superclass is Module, Module superclass is Object, Object superclass is BasicObject, BasicObject has no superclass.
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<agent_white> But.
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<agent_white> Why if BasicObject has no superclass does it have that method? While nil does not?
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<agent_white> wait nevermind
<agent_white> hahaha
<banister> agent_white nil isn't a class
<agent_white> NilClass not nil.
<agent_white> aye!
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<agent_white> So really... it's not "buffalo buffalo buffalo" ... it's Class.class.class...
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<shevy> lol
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<jhass> agent_white: Class#superclass, BasicObject.is_a? Class
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<agent_white> jhass: What in the hell..
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<agent_white> >> Class.superclass != Class#superclass
<eval-in__> agent_white => true (https://eval.in/223558)
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<bobbytek> Is there a more idiomatic way of doing this: groups[group] = (groups[group] || []) << box['name']
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<waxjar> bobbytek: groups = Hash.new { |hash, key| hash[key] = [] }; groups[group] << whatever
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<gregf_> waxjar: that should be possible to? what bobbytek's said? it aint quite readable tho' :/
<gregf_> a = { "one" => [], "two" => [] };(a["three"] ||= []) << 10; a ?
<gregf_> well, seems like everything works in ruby :/, what you think is what you get :/
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<waxjar> it's possible, yeah, but bobbytek asked for an idiomatic way :)
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<gregf_> yeah true :)
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<jhass> agent_white: Class#superclass means "instance method superclass of class Class"
<jhass> String#gsub: "instance method gsub of class String"
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<bobbytek> Hmm
<agent_white> jhass: That was literally the start of the next section I was reading :D Never knew that syntax before!
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<jhass> bobbytek: more context? You might want boxes.group_by {|box| box.group }
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<bobbytek> jhass: Yeah, that might work well
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<bobbytek> jhass: Basically this is what I'm doing: http://pastie.org/9729949
<bobbytek> Sorry, I'm just a Vagrantfile hacker :)
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<bobbytek> I really no nothing of ruby
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<jhass> ah, so one box can belong to multiple groups
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<bobbytek> yes
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<jhass> no dice for group_by then
<bobbytek> oh yer right
<jhass> I'd go with waxjar automatic array hash then
<bobbytek> Ya, that looks better
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<bobbytek> Thanks for your help guys!
<Hanmac> bobbytek: that should be your code if i am correct boxes.each_with_object(Hash.new { |hash, key| hash[key] = [] }) { |box, groups| box['groups'].each {|group| groups[group] << box['name'] } }
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<bobbytek> This is what I'm using now http://pastie.org/9729955
<bobbytek> interesting
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<bobbytek> Hanmac: yours removes a lexical variable which is nicer
<bobbytek> (from the calling scope)
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<bobbytek> But I need that variable
<bobbytek> Can I assign the return of your expression?
<jhass> bobbytek: yes
<Hanmac> bobbytek: yes each_with_object does return that object
<bobbytek> nifty, thanks
<bobbytek> One last question here
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<bobbytek> Hmm hard to explain actually
<bobbytek> bbiab
<bobbytek> Thanks again!
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<basichash> I've tried to install ruby with chruby and ruby-install but i can't chruby ruby 2.1.3 after ruby-install 2.1.3
<basichash> any ideas where i might be going wrong?
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<sevenseacat> depends on what commands youre actually running and what errors youre getting
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<basichash> sevenseacat: not getting any errors. basically followed this guide (http://yousefourabi.com/blog/2013/11/the-postmodern-ruby-environment/) but chruby can't seem to find 2.1.3 after i ruby-install it
<sevenseacat> okay, so what commands are you running and what errors are you getting
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<basichash> sevenseacat: right so i clone the two repos, then run the commands etc. Then ruby-install ruby 2.1.3. That all seems to work, but running chruby 2.1.3 returns nothing
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<sevenseacat> its not supposed to return anything
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<sevenseacat> it just changes your path
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<basichash> man i dunno wtf i'm doing wrong
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<sevenseacat> i havent yet heard what your problem is
<basichash> fcked it up somewhere along the way
<basichash> maybe rvm is better to use?
<sevenseacat> like, if youre having a problem, youre expecting to see one thing and actually seeing something else
<sevenseacat> but you havent mentioned that
<sevenseacat> 'better' is a vague term
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<basichash> sevenseacat: what's the easiest way to set up ruby for rails?
<basichash> i.e. for you
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<sevenseacat> i use ruby-install and chruby.
<basichash> lol dam
<basichash> on mac i assume
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<sevenseacat> nope, ubuntu.
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<basichash> can you give me a hand installing it? having trouble for some reason
<sevenseacat> still waiting to hear your problem.
<Hanmac> didnt you hear? he has mac, thats his problem
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<basichash> i'm using ubuntu
<basichash> i'll give it another shot first, maybe i make a stupid mistake
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<sevenseacat> if you have a problem you'll share with us, we can help you. if not, there's no point.
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<basichash> sevenseacat: i did, i just wasn't exactly sure what it was. still doesn't make it easy for you obviously
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<sevenseacat> you didnt say anything about a problem you were having.... just 'it didnt work'
<sevenseacat> without even saying what 'it' was
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<basichash> sevenseacat: right all good
<sevenseacat> :)
<basichash> lol
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<basichash> sevenseacat: random question, why does "gem install rails" take so long? is there a verbose flag i can use to see it's progress?
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<jedrek> hello there
<sevenseacat> depends what part of it is taking so long
<jedrek> what's a good alternative to IRB other than pry?
<jhass> pry
<sevenseacat> usually its the documentation steps
<jhass> scnr :P
<jhass> what's wrong with pry?
<basichash> sevenseacat: hmm i did --no-rdoc
<jedrek> pry's fine
<jedrek> i'm just curious
<sevenseacat> well the output will tell you what its doing
<basichash> sevenseacat: that's the thing, there's no output
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<sevenseacat> so what was the last piece of output?
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<basichash> sevenseacat: hasn't been any. "gem install rails" and then a blank newline
<sevenseacat> then its still working out dependencies and the like
<basichash> ah ok it's started outputing stuff
<sevenseacat> may take a couple of min
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<jheg> is this the way to return an array elements from another array that match the condition? …
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<jheg> new_array = array.each{ |element| element == ‘ ‘ }
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<jhass> no, new_array will always equal array in this case
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<jhass> as each returns the receiver
<jhass> you want #select
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<jheg> thanks jhass
<Hanmac> jheg look also for Array#grep
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<jheg> is that an array method Hanmac I can;t see it in docs
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<Hanmac> jheg: oh i was wrong, its an Enumerable method
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<Hanmac> >> ("A".."Z").grep(/[aeoui]/i)
<eval-in__> Hanmac => ["A", "E", "I", "O", "U"] (https://eval.in/223616)
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<jheg> Thanks Hanmac
<jheg> I’m finding it tricky to get my head around how classes can interact
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<jheg> I have two classes one named Board and another called Player
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<shevy> jheg well; which class is more important
<shevy> how many boards exist: ANSWER_HERE
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<shevy> how many players exist: ANSWER_HERE
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<jheg> within board there is an array with 9 poisitions and within the Player class I want to create a method that takes a number between 1 and 9 and assigns a given value to that index in the array in the Board class
<jheg> lemme link one sec
<jheg> in answer to your q though 1 board exists and 2 players
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<jheg> so its the tic tac toe game where players take turns to select a square
<shevy> ok
<shevy> so we have one board, and two players
<jheg> yep
<shevy> so class Board is more important
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<shevy> it could hold the players in an Array called @players
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<shevy> so you only have to instantiate a new Board.new
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<shevy> or if you really wanna go nuts
<shevy> you can make something like a class GameHandler to handle those two classes
<shevy> I like to keep the amount of classes minimal; and the code also minimal
<teotwaki> why would players be part of the board?
<shevy> because the Board handles the game
<jheg> that will keep track of which squares are taken so i guess so yes
<teotwaki> that makes no sense whatsoever.
<shevy> I think that makes perfect sense
<jheg> Ah ok so intantiate the player objects inside the Board class?
<shevy> jheg yeah; depends on how you want to initialize your game
<jheg> I was going to have a game class
<shevy> ok
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<jheg> to initialize Board and players
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<shevy> the Board is still the biggest contender; it will be initialized only once whereas there can be several players
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<jheg> but i need the player classes to be able to change the instance var inside the Board class
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<jheg> if that makes sense?
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<shevy> you can do that when you use the class Game master handler
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<shevy> since you will inside of it have instances both of class Board and class Player
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<jheg> I really only wanted the Board class to handle printing out the board and keeping track of squares
<teotwaki> have a game class, board and player, game holds both board and player objects, and initializes them if appropriate. Players can be told they are playing on a specific board as shortcuts, but board should not be owners of the players.
<shevy> yeah
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<teotwaki> is a board composed of players? No. So it should not instantiate them nor take care of their life cycle.
<jheg> ok so how then can I get the method within the player classes to be able to change the instance var in the Board class?
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<teotwaki> @player.take_square @board, number
<jheg> how to I tell the program that those player classes need to be able to access the Board object
<teotwaki> or as I said, when you initialise the player object
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<teotwaki> Player.new @board
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<jheg> sorry what is happening here? @board?
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<gregf_> how about: Game.new(Player.new("Alan", "OH"), Player.new("Ted", "GA"),Board.new(ARGV.shift || "3",ARGV.shift ||"3")).play()
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<shevy> jheg he meant that inside your class Game, you will have instantiated board as @board = Board.new
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<teotwaki> class Player; def initialize(board); assign_to board; end; def assign_to(board); @board = board; end; def assigned?; defined?(@board) and !@board.nil?; end; def take_square(number, board = nil); if board.nil? and !assigned?; # raise here, etc...
<jheg> got you thanks guys
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<waxjar> a board does not consist of players, but a player consists of a board?
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<jheg> players share a board
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<apeiros_> players board shares!
<teotwaki> waxjar: composition != aggregation
<teotwaki> in this case, the board can continue to exist with the players changing to another board.
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<teotwaki> i've typed board so many times and heard it so many times in my head it doesn't sound like a word anymore.
<jhass> if you want a no trust design you would have each player their own board as well as master board in the game class. Players then hand out Moves, the Game controller verifies the moves and hands it out to its own board as well as to the other players which update their internal Board
<waxjar> the player should probably not keep track of the board at all, just mark a square
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<jhass> that also would allow AI implementations of Player that have an optimized data structure for their AI
<teotwaki> waxjar: true, it was just a shorthand to not have to send @board to the take_square() method all the time, but a current_board helper would be more appropriate, I concur.
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<jhass> but I guess that's over the top for this one
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<teotwaki> jhass: nice, hadn't thought of that.
<teotwaki> jhass: is that a common design pattern in game development?
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<jhass> no idea, I'm not a game dev
<jhass> we had something alike for a reversi game competition at university here
<jhass> where we would load other teams AIs into our games
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<jhass> (or was it mills? I already forgot :P)
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<shock_one> Hi. How would I write this more elegantly? https://gist.github.com/shockone/b2abd0971bc6932986ff
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<centrx> shock_one, That's how I would write it
<centrx> shock_one, You could also change basic_auth to return r
<shock_one> I'm afraid it's a library method.
<centrx> ok
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<jhass> shock_one: super.tap {|request| request.basic_auth(username, password) }
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<shock_one> jhass, you're my hero. I always forget about this method.
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<jheg> teotwaki: i've typed board so many times and heard it so many times in my head it doesn't sound like a word anymore.
<jheg> ^ Same lol
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<teotwaki> :)
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<jheg> I’m trying to just understand the basics of class relationships before embarking on more complex features
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<jheg> it’s what and how is accessible from outside classes that I want to better understand
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<jheg> for instance I know if a class inherits from a another class it has access to its methods but what if I ont want to inherit any of its methods and just need to be able to manipulate one of its states
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<jhass> a bit vague, but it sounds like you would extract that method into a mixin
<jheg> and I’m sure you guys have probs already told me how but it starts to get fuzzy when many bits of syntax are in my noob mind at once :)
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<jheg> well i’d probable do that so both Player and ComputerPlayer class have access to it but they still need access to the instance variable from a different class that they dont inherit from
<jhass> don't be afraid to make mistakes, they teach you best
<jheg> certainly making a few of those
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<DaniG2k> halo all. Does anyone know if I can refactor my constraints in this link: http://stackoverflow.com/a/27021252/1741325
<DaniG2k> oops wrong channel
<DaniG2k> sry
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<ericwood> unacceptable
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<mjuszczak> Is there an easy way to split and replace in ruby? IE: converting "example.com" to "dc=example,dc=com" which includes splitting on any number of "." and pre-pending "dc=" to each? I know how to split and how to replace but having trouble doing both at the same time.
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<centrx> mjuszczak, "example.com".split('.').map { |s| "dc=#{s}" }.join
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<mjuszczak> oh! I've seen the .join before. I'll take a peek at that, thanks!
<ericwood> you could hack together something awful with regex replacement to do it but what centrx said is the cleanest
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<gregf_> mjuszczak: "example.com".gsub!(/(^|\.)/,"dc=")
<gregf_> well, that excludes the comma :/
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<mjuszczak> intriguing
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<zacts> ruby my dear
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<Grantlyk> Yo guys, got a ruby problem
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<Grantlyk> So i've got a Person class and i'm wondering if theirs a good way to write a self.numberOfPeople method so that I can do person = Person.new and then person.numberOfPeople and it says the number created so far
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<canton7> that stinks
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<canton7> why do you want that bit of information?
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<Grantlyk> Because i'm learning, anything I learn could be useful in future
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<canton7> here's a lesson: don't do that ;) it's extremely rare for you to need to know how many of something have been created - I don't think I've ever done it... :P
<canton7> you could easily write such a method, if you wanted
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<Grantlyk> I'm not worried about the practicalities of ever needing to do it again, I just want to know how to do it
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<Grantlyk> I do want to, that's the idea behind it
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<centrx> Grantlyk, I would have methods Person.count and Person.increment_count
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<centrx> Grantlyk, which use a class instance variable
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<centrx> Grantlyk, Person.increment_count being called from Person#initialize
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<Grantlyk> centrx: Thank you
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<jaequery> inside a .erb, can you call methods?
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<Grantlyk> centrx: See when i'm making a call to Person.increment_count within Person#initialize, is that done through putting self.increment_count within Person#Initialize
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<centrx> Grantlyk, In #initialize, self is the instance
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<centrx> Grantlyk, Use self.class.increment_count or Person.increment_count to reference the class
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<centrx> Grantlyk, The count has to be tracked in the class, as it counts all instances
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<Grantlyk> centrx: Yeah that makes sense now, thanks a lot
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<jhass> jaequery: sure
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<pontiki> hi rubyists
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<jaequery> jhass: i'd have guessed i call it the same way i'd call instance variables ...
<jhass> sure
<jaequery> so if i have, def some_method , inside erb, i do @some_method
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<jhass> no
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<jhass> @something is an instance variable
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<jhass> how do you call erb?
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<checkit> Hey guys... I'm runing into an issue trying to install GEM.... https://gist.github.com/mrjonleek/49b3f21ebbe61e3d5dfd
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<checkit> GEM file that is...
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<centrx> checkit, You need install the build tools and ruby-dev
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<centrx> checkit, e.g. apt-get install build-essential ruby2.1-dev
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<checkit> centrx: Oh okay... Thought that was already on my Vagrrant/Homestead VM.
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<checkit> centrx: Unable to locate package error...
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<centrx> checkit, What version of Ruby do you have? How did you install it?
<checkit> 1.9.3. It came with the Homestead box.
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<centrx> checkit, Okay the package might be called ruby1.9-dev or ruby1.9.3-dev or ruby1.9.1-dev
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<checkit> Gotcha... I'm just gonna upgrade to a later version.
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<joncol> Using Bundler and rake, how do I create a Rakfile task that both runs all specs and then runs "rake Build"
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<checkit> centrx: Okay so I finally got ruby updated and now I'm getting a different error while attempting "gem install mysql2psql". https://gist.github.com/mrjonleek/84796ec135380960d8f8
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<centrx> checkit, Looks like you need the development/header files for MySQL, something like libmysqlclient-dev
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<checkit> centrx: What did you see that gave you that impression?
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<centrx> checking for mysql_query() in -lmysqlclient... no
<centrx> Could not create Makefile due to some reason, probably lack of necessary libraries and/or headers.
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<centrx> So it looks for this function in the necessary mysqlclient library (-lmysqlclient) but it's not found
<centrx> Probably because the entire development library with headers is not installed, or not in the place it expects it to be installed
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<checkit> centrx: Jesus... This is becoming a huge mission...
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<centrx> apt-get install libmysqlclient-dev :)
<eam> welcome to the world of build dependency management
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<eam> centrx: it's pretty simple, in general. If you want to build, install every -dev package for every component you use
<eam> sorry checkit :)
<checkit> centrx: Already installed it..
<checkit> Same error...
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<checkit> eam: Honestly I'm not very familiary with Ruby/RoR. Which is why is frustrating...
<eam> this is a distro issue though, not really ruby specific
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<eam> checkit: if you look in gem_make.out you will find specifically what gem is doing to determine that things are / are not working
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<eam> typically it looks something like trying to compile a small hello world c program that uses the library
<eam> and you will see a gcc error
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<eam> that error will help pinpoint the exact problem
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<eam> if -lmysqlclient won't link then no software built against mysqlclient libraries will work
<eam> C, python, perl, ruby - doesn't matter
<checkit> eam: okay. I'll crack that file open then to see if I can learn anything else.
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<checkit> Does this mean anything to you (contents of gem_make.out): https://gist.github.com/mrjonleek/c7c62cdf4be26cd4fc40
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<checkit> Also, I installed RVM and set rvm use ruby2.1.5
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<eam> checkit: do you have ruby-dev installed?
<checkit> Guess not... Installing now.
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<eam> checkit: just remember, debian/ubuntu splits many packages into two, build-time things being in -dev. mkmf is a ruby build-time component
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<eam> just like libmysqlclient has run-time libraries in the normal package, but build time stuff (header files, versionless .so symlink) in the -dev
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<checkit> Hmmm.. Okay gotcha. Getting somehwere now I think. A new error within the gem_make.out file.... : https://gist.github.com/mrjonleek/d64effcc553f3e1289f8
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<eam> checkit: look at your .out file
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<checkit> eam: Right. It just show's those flags and extconf failed, exit code 1
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<eam> gist the whole file
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<checkit> Hold on I think I may have found it.
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<checkit> Another missing -dev
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<checkit> HOLY SHIT... FINALLY GOT IT..
<checkit> Thanks eam!
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<checkit> and centrx!
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<centrx> yay
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<jheg> o/
<jheg> which method returns a new array of indexes if a condition is met?
<jheg> #select returns the element but not the index
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<centrx> jheg, adding .with_index might work
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<centrx> jheg, or you may just want map.with_index, using next with compact to remove undesired items
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<centrx> *skip undesired items
<jheg> ooh nice
<jheg> I prefer the simpleness of option one :)
<jheg> I’ll try that first
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<samfisher> how can I make a command to run randomly each 1 to 5 hrs?
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<apeiros> samfisher: see Kernel#sleep and Kernel#rand
<samfisher> thanks
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<jheg> centrx: thanks mate
<jheg> array.each_index.select{|index| array[index] == ' '}
<jheg> ^ did it
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<centrx> neato
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<graft> okay, so ary.uniq.length == ary.length will tell me if ary contains duplicates, but it seems like overkill. what's a faster way?
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<tobiasvl> graft: doubt there is a faster one (except that you don't need to check the length, just compare the arrays), you have to traverse both arrays anyway
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<graft> ary.uniq == ary is definitely slower than ary.uniq.length == ary.length
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<crome> graft: that's pretty much the best way to go about it
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<graft> how can it be the best? I don't need to compress ary to its uniq elements just to know if it has duplicates. if i find even one duplicate, that's enough, so there must be a faster way
<tobiasvl> graft: hehe, yeah, on second thought that makes sense. you only traverse the one array with comparisons.
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<tobiasvl> graft: write your own method!
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<graft> well, yeah, but i like posing these problems to see what people come up with
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<crome> graft: it's not about "compressing" an array or not, it's about trusting ruby that it knows how to filter out duplicates in an efficient way, perhaps better than what you can come up with
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<graft> crome: yes, but i didn't want ary.uniq, i just want to know if it contains ANY duplicate elements
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<graft> crome: work is being done i don't care about
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<crome> are you actually contradicting yourself?
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<terrellt> Why do you need to know if there's duplicates?
<graft> that was my original purpose
<graft> given an ary, see ifi t has any duplicates
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<crome> you seem to care about the work that is being done under the hood as you clearly have a problem with calling uniq on an array
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<graft> you seem to be missing my point, never mind
* crome doesn't mind
<terrellt> Basically no matter what you do it's gonna be n^2, might as well do the concise way.
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<apeiros> hm? checking array for duplicates O(n^2)?
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<apeiros> certainly not :)
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<terrellt> I guess you could do n + nlogn
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<apeiros> hash lookup is O(n)
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<apeiros> gah
<apeiros> hash lookup is O(1)
<apeiros> and array iteration O(n)
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<apeiros> so the resulting algorithm is O(n)
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<terrellt> Ah - iterating across the array and adding to a hash, if it exists then bail
<terrellt> Yes, that's O(n)
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<apeiros> an ary.uniq uses the same approach
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<apeiros> so ary.uniq.length == ary.length is O(n) too
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<terrellt> There ya go, graft
<apeiros> and yes, ary.uniq == ary is much more expensive
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<havenwood> as would be something like: sort.each_cons(2).all? { |a, b| a != b } }
<apeiros> as in the case of an array without duplicates, it'll indeed do == on each element in the array (additionally to the uniq)
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<apeiros> havenwood: sorting is nlogn
<havenwood> bad sort, no cookie
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<terrellt> Hehe
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<apeiros> unless you cheat (pre-sorted data + algorithm which takes advantage of that)
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<waxjar> wouldn't it be easier to just use a Set in the first place, avoid duplicates altogether?
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<enape_101> How do I make it so that when a subscriber chooses a category, and enters their email address.. They will ONLY receive emails that are relevant to the category they chose? Bare in mind, the category select dropdown, is created with a constant on the category model. I.E CATEGORY_TYPES = {1 => "Fitness"} etc
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<jhass> enape_101: Please do not crosspost without at least telling so. Experience shows that people don't bother to inform the other channels of provided solutions, therefore it is considered rude.
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<enape_101> jhass, my apologies.
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<graft> apeiros: but i don't have to iterate over the whole array, so i should be able to do this in < O(n)
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<graft> e.g. this: https://gist.github.com/graft/2e614375c8601970be68 should be < O(n), i think, but not sure by how much
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<graft> I guess it varies with my dataset
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<terrellt> graft: Not really how O notation works.
<crome> and what do you think "each" does on that method?
<crome> in*
<terrellt> Worst case is O(n)
<graft> eh? If that's O(log(n)), that's less than O(n)
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<graft> crome: what do you think 'return' does on that method?
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<gr33n7007h> what about: arr == (arr|arr) or is that just shit
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<terrellt> graft: Test it. Benchmark functions.
<terrellt> Use a large dataset.
<waxjar> graft: im guessing #uniq is written in C tho and likely a bit faster, even if your algorithm is theoretically faster
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<crome> graft: sorry, I misunderstood you a bit. your method _may_ be faster if the duplicate is to be found early in the array
<graft> waxjar: uniq is basically doing what i'm doing here, it's not going to be that much faster. it pushes stuff onto a ruby hash
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<graft> i'm not sure it's any faster, i think it's just written in C for the sake of it
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<terrellt> Well, it bypasses the interpretation step. Again, benchmark it.
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<waxjar> if you do benchmark, pls report back. im curious :D
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<terrellt> Or avoid having to check duplicates, of course, but it doesn't sound like you're solving a business use case.
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<crome> I think ruby was written in C only for the sake of it
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<crome> Matz knew no better
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<eam> what else would it be written in?
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<crome> dunno, javascript is all hip nowadays
<terrellt> Well, he tried to write it in Ruby, but the paradox blew up the world.
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<eam> barf
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<benzrf> terrellt: you think you're joking
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<benzrf> terrellt: the coffeescript compiler is in coffeescript, ghc is in haskell, gcc is in c (oh wait is it c++)
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<waxjar> the rust compiler is written in rust
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<benzrf> pypy is in py
<benzrf> obviously
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<apeiros> 22:35 graft: apeiros: but i don't have to iterate over the whole array, so i should be able to do this in < O(n)
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<apeiros> that's not how big-o works
<apeiros> in the worst case, you DO have to iterate the whole array
<apeiros> so it is O(n)
<terrellt> 13:37 terrellt: graft: Not really how O notation works.
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<apeiros> ah, late to the party :)
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<graft> yeah, so it's O(n) in the worst case, but not on average
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<graft> depending on the complexity of the dataset (i.e., what's the density of duplicates) the two are quite different in speed
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<apeiros> graft: on average, it'll iterate n/2
<graft> apeiros: again, depending on the complexity of the dataset
<apeiros> and since a factor is removed when doing the limit, it's still O(n)
<apeiros> no, not depending on the complexity of the dataset :)
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<graft> apeiros: i just tested this :)
<apeiros> if you have a biased dataset, the average will change
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<apeiros> yes, and still not understood O(n) ;-)
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<graft> seems like if the dataset is not ordered, and p(i==j) = x, it'll stop exponentially fast based on x one way and linearly the other
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<apeiros> graft: biased dataset is a factor
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<graft> well sure, but that means that it's not O(n) in all cases
<apeiros> i.e. you say it has a 50% chance to hit in the first 10% of items - sure. that means a short-cutting algorithm runs faster. but by a factor. and factors are not part of O(n) notation.
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<terrellt> graft: O(n) isn't context sensitive.
<graft> it's not by a factor, it's exponentially fast as opposed to linear
<apeiros> algorithm A can run 1000x faster than B on average. but they can still both be O(n).
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<apeiros> then you did a mistake in either measuring or analyzing.
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<terrellt> The moment you iterated over the entirety of the dataset it was O(n) at the very least.
<terrellt> Or rather, the moment you had the potential to iterate over the entirety of the dataset.
<graft> i.e., if the odds that p(i==j) = x, the odds of my encountering j == i go up exponentially as i iterate. i.e., the odds that i find a match are (1-x)^i
<apeiros> terrellt: it could even be an algorithm which was guaranteed to only ever iterate n/2 - it's still be O(n)
<graft> terrellt: absolutely not! that's just O(n) in the worst case
<apeiros> there is no "O(n) in the worst case"
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<apeiros> best case/worst case have their own name
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<apeiros> (and they too don't care about factors - just to have it said)
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<graft> no, but they do care about logs and exponents
<apeiros> yes. and you have neither here.
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<graft> if my stopping time is a function not of the number of elements in the array but of the density of duplicates in that array, how is it O(n)?
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<apeiros> again: density is a factor
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<graft> yes, but density is not a function of n
<centrx> I may start using @@class_variables
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<terrellt> centrs: Only $
<apeiros> it'd only change if you had a guarantee on "in the first N items of the array - no matter how big it is - there will be a duplicate". but then you'd have O(1) (since you're not dependent on the size of the array anymore)
<terrellt> Globals only. All the time.
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<apeiros> graft: then you're using the term density wrong
<apeiros> density is x per n
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<apeiros> but I think you're using density correctly. but misunderstand how it works.
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<eam> the n in O(n) can be anything
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<nobitanobi> How can I do the opposite of /mi/ =~ "hi mike"
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<nobitanobi> besides doing if !(/mi/ =~ "hi mike")
<apeiros> !~
<apeiros> or unless =~
<nobitanobi> thanks apeiros
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<eam> ruby's socket class is so inadequate
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<apeiros> thank you. now I hear willie's "adequate" song
<crome> it still doesn't read after reset?
<crome> thought they fixed it already, duh
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<eam> how am I supposed to work with cmsg structures >+/
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<eam> not only can I not create them without playing with pack, there's only recvfrom() and no recvmsg()
<crome> I'm wondering, why can't you use a higher level implementation?
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<eam> like/
<eam> ?
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<crome> tcpsocket/unixsocket/whateversocket
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<eam> I'm not sending data, I'm sending ancillary messages
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<eam> oh, unixsocket implements recvfrom (sigh)
<eam> why would that not be available in socket?
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<eam> erk no recvmsg, so still nogo
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<crome> ah
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<eam> crome: let's say for example I want to use SCM_CREDENTIALS to authenticate the peer on the other end of the socket
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<eam> I can write ffi but honestly, recvmsg ought to be an available primitive in Socket
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<eam> I guess I can make a patch
* eam ratholes
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<sweeper> eam: surely you're not doing something so weird that zeromq or the like won't suffice?
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<eam> I am
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<eam> I like to use ruby for short proof of concept snippets
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<eightfold> should i sudo when i install gems on os x?
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<apeiros> eightfold: depends on your installation
<eightfold> apeiros: how?
<apeiros> but generally consensus is to do a user install of ruby and not use sudo
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<apeiros> ah, actually I think rubygems can do a user-install of gems even for a system install of ruby
<eightfold> apeiros: i don’t want to install ruby via rubygems
<eightfold> i want to install jekyll
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<apeiros> you can't install ruby via rubygems. that's not what I said either.
<havenwood> eightfold: jekyll is a rubygem. rubygems ships with ruby.
<apeiros> the way you install ruby defines how rubygems installs gems by default.
<apeiros> if your ruby is a system wide installation of ruby, rubygems will default to system wide gem installations. and those require sudo.
<eightfold> apeiros: i’m using system default version of ruby
<eightfold> on yosemite
<apeiros> ok. that's a system wide install.
<apeiros> you can try `gem install jekyll --user-install`
<eightfold> ruby 2.0.0p481 (2014-05-08 revision 45883) [universal.x86_64-darwin14]
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<apeiros> (I say "try" because I've never used it myself - I don't use system ruby)
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<eightfold> apeiros: why should i do —user-install and not just system wide?
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<apeiros> because it doesn't need sudo
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<eam> update: recvfrom was added I think in 2.x
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<eam> so that's pretty cool
<eam> it's hiding in BasicSocket
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<eam> finding methods is such a pita
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<apeiros> indeed. inventing them is so much more fun ;-D
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<eightfold> apeiros: http://jekyllrb.com/ seems to recommend just issuing gem install jekyll
<apeiros> then I suggest you do that and see how it goes.
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<eightfold> apeiros: sorry for being so anxious, but i’ve had so much trouble with ruby and rvm on os x
<jheg> thanks for your helps earlier guys all finished with the Tic Tac Toe game
<eightfold> ultimately wiped the whole os because of the error message hell i ended up in
<jheg> well I have a working starting point at least https://github.com/jheg/courseproject/blob/master/oottt.rb
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<jheg> !fun eightfold
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<eightfold> fun?
<jheg> no it sounds like not fun
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<Radar> sounds like the nuclear option
<Radar> eightfold: I would recommend chruby and ruby-install
<apeiros> I have no idea what people do
<apeiros> using rvm on osx for ages
<apeiros> never had a problem
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<apeiros> ok, well, once. when I was surprised that rvm did auto-bundle.
<jheg> no problems here either and I run jekyll
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<eightfold> surprise…
<eightfold> ERROR: While executing gem ... (Gem::FilePermissionError)
<eightfold> You don't have write permissions for the /Library/Ruby/Gems/2.0.0 directory.
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<eightfold> that’s just gem install jekyll
<apeiros> eightfold: and now remember what I told you
<apeiros> system wide ruby install -> gem install defaults to system install of gem
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<apeiros> without sudo, you don't have permission for system wide installs.
<eightfold> here a jekyll dev recommends just doing gem install jekyll because of trouble with sudo https://github.com/jekyll/jekyll-help/issues/167
<apeiros> *sob*
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<apeiros> eightfold: read. and understand.
<Radar> eightfold: I would recommend installing chruby and ruby-install and using those.
<Radar> eightfold: Install Ruby 2.1.5 through ruby-install.
<apeiros> you either need a user install of ruby. or you use --user-install.
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<eightfold> apeiros: apparently, looking at uninstaller logs i can see that ~/.gem was created though
<eightfold> even though it failed
* Radar taps keyboard
<eightfold> but i shouldn’t wipe that?
<Radar> is this thing on?
<eightfold> to start from zero before doing —user-install?
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<Radar> eightfold: Please stop what you're doing right now and install ruby-install, then install ruby 2.1.5 using that, then use chruby to auto switch into that Ruby.
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<Radar> Completely ignore your system Ruby because it is a world of pain.
<Radar> It's outdated and the permissions are not setup correctly.
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<eightfold> arghhh
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<eightfold> i can sense the pain and mess closing in
<apeiros> of course. because you run around like a blind chicken.
<eightfold> haha
<eightfold> yeah, i suppose
<apeiros> I told you what you need to know.
<eightfold> i just want to install jekyll. that’s all.
<apeiros> you have to use it yourself.
<Radar> eightfold: And I've given you direction how you can do that.
<apeiros> Radar's suggestion btw. is to do a user install of ruby
<Radar> eightfold: Setup Ruby correctly on your machine and you won't have problems.
<apeiros> personally I prefer a user install of ruby. but gem install --user-install should work just fine.
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<eightfold> apeiros: or just do gem install jekyll --user-install =
<eightfold> ?
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<eightfold> but should i somehow undo the mistake i just did?
<apeiros> yes. that's how you install a gem without sudo on a system-wide ruby.
<eightfold> (which was btw recommended by the jekyll developers themselves)
<apeiros> nothing happened
<apeiros> you didn't have permissions to let something happen.
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<apeiros> you forget context.
<eightfold> apeiros: a dir was creted
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<eightfold> apeiros: ~/.gem
<apeiros> the jekyll developers can't possibly account for all possible setups. their recommendation assumes the best-practice - which is a user install of ruby.
<apeiros> eightfold: that won't hurt you (~/.gem)
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<apeiros> IMO ruby (or rubygems actually) could do a better job.
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<eightfold> apeiros: in my (uneducated) opinion i think so too
<eightfold> :)
<apeiros> note that if you do a --user-install, the executable will be installed in a dir which is probably not in your $PATH
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<eightfold> apeiros: oh of course, there’s always a but…
<apeiros> for me (yosemite too) it's ~/.gem/ruby/2.0.0/bin/
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<apeiros> so don't forget to add that to $PATH.
<eightfold> ok
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<eightfold> apeiros: any other downsides to —user-install?
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<apeiros> as said, I don't use it myself
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<dandaman> what is the difference between {4=>"Denver", 9=>"Phoenix", 10=>"Houston", 11=>"Dallas"} and [[11, "Dallas"], [4, "Denver"], [10, "Houston"], [9, "Phoenix"]]
<dandaman> the first one is a hashmap right?
<dandaman> what is the 2nd one?
<Radar> First one is a Hash, second one is an Array of Arrays, which can be converted into a Hash with Hash[<that array>]
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<eightfold> apeiros: could i use tilde in the $PATH ~/.gem/ruby/2.0.0/bin/
<dandaman> thanks
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<eightfold> or should i use $HOME instead of ~/
<apeiros> Radar: .to_h on decently new rubies :)
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<rpag> >> [[1,2]].to_h
<eval-in__> rpag => {1=>2} (https://eval.in/223802)
<rpag> nice
<volty> as long as you do not have dupl kyes in that array
<rpag> i guess it takes the last one?
<rpag> >> [[1,2], [1,3]].to_h
<eval-in__> rpag => {1=>3} (https://eval.in/223803)
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<Radar> thanks apeiros :)
<volty> yap
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<apeiros> by the end of this year we'll finally have all apps moved to rails 4.1 and ruby 2.1. finally will be able to use all those goodies :D
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<apeiros> (well, all except for one - which uses ruby 1.8.1 and rails 1.2.3 - iirc)
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<volty> I use rbenv and it was almost a nightmare to set it to use shims from apache (btw forgot how I did it)
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<volty> what's best out there? just to consider for the next reinstall ?
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<eightfold> apeiros: which command should i run when i update gems when having used —user-install
<apeiros> volty: If you use apache - I still find rvm + passenger quite painless.
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<apeiros> eightfold: good question. again, as said, I don't use --user-install. try `gem help update`?
<apeiros> maybe it's got a --user-install flag too
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<eightfold> mmm
<volty> thx, saved in notes, together with nick
<eightfold> i’ll search around
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<volty> could be nice to be able to run apache in user mode. I guess it is possible but haven't searched for info
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<volty> Ops, already as www-data user. So I mean so many system-wide settings shouldn't necessarily require root privileges. Maybe I'd better try to tweak with a www-data or a new ruby-group. (I am afraid of gems having access to the whole system).
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<apeiros> volty: I have user installs for ruby with rvm+apache
<apeiros> different user than the apache user
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<atmosx> hello
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<atmosx> can an native englihs speaker exlain to me what piggy-backing means?
<volty> apeiros: it means that I am going to get rid of rbenv after this final one: so you managed to never be forced to sudo install a gem ?
<atmosx> effectively piggy-backing a neighbours connection. <--
<graft> is rubygems.org painfully slow for anyone? can i use a mirror or something?
<apeiros> volty: normal rvm installation.
<apeiros> so no sudo, no
<volty> ok, thx a lot
<atmosx> volty: I use rvm too, if it needs sudo it asks for it, but it's very rare situation
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<apeiros> volty: ah, passenger might require sudo. not the gem, but the apache module. but I guess that's obvious.
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<volty> yes, of course. Let rvm be, after lost time with rbenv, thx again all
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<graft> stupid ipv6
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<jhass> nah, show more <3 for ipv6!