<punkerplunk>
I'm going through the guide at rubygems, I was wondering if anyone had any advice!?
<punkerplunk>
specifically, I need some ttfs, and I donno do I just make some folder and stick them in that? do I have to add them into the gemspec?
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<symm->
sphex: thanks, I will look into that
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<sphex>
punkerplunk: it looks like some gems put their data files in a lib directory and find them by opening a path relative to a loaded module... prolly not the best way though.
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<sphex>
symm-: np
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<punkerplunk>
sounds simple enough.
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<punkerplunk>
or i'll just search the computer for ttfs with some recursive hack job
<sphex>
yeah, but you'd think there would be a way to install a /usr/share file or similar
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<sphex>
punkerplunk: ew.
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<punkerplunk>
also, if I require another gem, do I have to use bundler or just name it in the gemspec?
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<havenwood>
punkerplunk: Just in the gemspec.
<punkerplunk>
coo
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<punkerplunk>
hmmm, nothing happens when I ask it to install locally
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<punkerplunk>
dependency issues brb
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<punkerplunk>
it tells me ERROR: Failed to build gem native extension
<jfarmer>
punkerplunk Assuming these are static, read-only files
<jfarmer>
punkerplunk That means one of your dependencies has a component written in C and it failed to compile
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<jfarmer>
Usually means either you're missing some system-level dependency (e.g., a shared library) or your development environment is not set up correctly (e.g., you don't have a working C compiler).
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<jfarmer>
The error message usually includes the location of an error log which will give you more detail.
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<punkerplunk>
okay, I guess I need to make my own extconf.rb file.
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<jfarmer>
That seems unlikely
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<jfarmer>
Unless your gem is the gem with the C extension
<punkerplunk>
the gem i'm requiring uses a c extension, not my gem
<jfarmer>
Then it has an extconf.rb file that includes instructions for how to build its C extensions.
<jfarmer>
If it's failing to build that indicates something wrong with your build environment
<jfarmer>
Try installing the offending gem in isolation, for example (gem install gem_that_wont_compile)
<punkerplunk>
I have it.
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<punkerplunk>
I mean, otherwise I couldn't develop this in the first place!
<punkerplunk>
perhaps the issue is with runtime or development
<punkerplunk>
so I add_development_dependency rather than add_runtime_dependency
<jfarmer>
Maybe your build environment was working, you installed the gem, you unknowingly broke your build environment, and now can't install the gem
<jfarmer>
(as a hypothesis consistent with the evidence presented so far)
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<punkerplunk>
Ah yes, IT WORKS!
<punkerplunk>
MWAHAHAHAHAHA
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<punkerplunk>
oh kay, like I thought, it's having trouble locating the ttfs. looks like I've got a bit more work before I publish
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<punkerplunk>
Could I use gemspec.Metadata to specify data?
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<pawz>
Hey. I'm having a problem with a ruby based app (wpscan) ... I have tried installing it on two different debian machines and an osx machine and I always get
<pawz>
[ERROR] cannot load such file -- terminal-table/row
<pawz>
i did "gem install terminal-table"
<pawz>
pawz@dejiko:~$ sudo gem list
<pawz>
*** LOCAL GEMS ***
<pawz>
bundler (1.10.5)
<pawz>
terminal-table (1.5.0)
<pawz>
and it is installed
<pawz>
but i still get the error
<pawz>
can anyone tell me why ?
<[k->
it could be because you installed it as root
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<havenwood>
pawz: I can reproduce the same issue.
<punkerplunk>
you have these? libcurl4-openssl-dev libopenssl-ruby libxml2 libxml2-dev libxslt1-dev ruby-dev
<d1ngell>
3
<pawz>
yes, i installed all the deps according to the wpscan guide. I've installed it before in the past without problems, but now, I cannot
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<pawz>
I'm not really too familiar with ruby so I don't know how to fix this... all the other packages were installed as root as per the guide.. do you think if I installed terminal-table as a normal user it would fix it ?
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<punkerplunk>
well, if havenwood has the same issue . . . it sounds like the developer might have let a bug slip
<[k->
dun dun dun
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<pawz>
yeah, I think so. I think I'll go back to a stable revision and leave the git version alone
<pawz>
thanks
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<pawz>
so, it's generally advisable to install the gems I need as a regular user rather than as root ? I have experienced this sort of thing with other languages
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<[k->
you could try summiting a PR to fix the issue
<[k->
then you can build from the fork
<havenwood>
pawz: I prefer package managers that default to a --user-local install but it varies. You can add `gem: "--user-install"` to your ~/.gemrc file to install gems in your user home dir. RVM, chruby and rbenv will install locally.
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<havenwood>
Or rather ruby-install and ruby-build, but ruby-install does support system installs.
<havenwood>
It just depends
<pawz>
ok, I think I can make enough sense of that to work it out
<havenwood>
pawz: Which OS/distro?
<[k->
the current issue is that the developer forgot to add "lib/terminal-table/row.rb" to s.files
<pawz>
damn, even the tarballed version has the same error... I'll have to try and find an old version
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<pawz>
havenwood: currently trying on Debian 7.8
<havenwood>
pawz: And using system Ruby?
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<havenwood>
pawz: It looks like it has been a long time since this gem has been updated.
<[k->
and then you can rebuild the gem from your forked version
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<pawz>
havenwood: the gemspec file is for terminal-table ? surely the bug is not in terminal-table is it ?
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<havenwood>
pawz: When I install this gem and require it I run into the same error you do. It hasn't had a commit in over three years.
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<pawz>
ok.. I understand. I'll remove my gem of terminal-table and pull the git for it and make that modification
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<pawz>
hahaha ok... rebuilt it with your suggestion havenwood. eliminated the table.rb error and now it's missing another one... I'll just keep adding the necessary files the gemspec is missing until it works :)
<havenwood>
pawz: ;)
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<pawz>
WOOHOOO ! Fixed ! there were three libraries missing from terminal-table's gemspec ... added them all, recompiled and installed the gem and it's all good. Thanks so much. I really know very little about ruby so I'm so happy to solve that :)
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<Ox0dea>
>> [//.dup, begin //.clone; rescue Exception => e; e end]
<pawz>
guess I'd better upload my fork to github now for others ;)
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<[k->
nope not gems update
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<[k->
gem*
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<Ox0dea>
[k-: Pfft, like I don't have a local copy of trunk.
<[k->
now you know where to search then!
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<Ox0dea>
The error is being raised upon (re)initialization of the Regexp, which I don't think makes much sense.
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<Ox0dea>
Duplicating isn't modifying, anyhow.
<[k->
Ox0dea, you need to use the --pre flag
<[k->
the gem is in alpha
<Ox0dea>
Indeed.
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<[k->
punkerplunk, no need to search anymore
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<Ox0dea>
punkerplunk: Why "datum"? You'll need to change the name if the directory every includes more than one file.
<Ox0dea>
*ever
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<pawz>
guys, for the sake of bundler installation and naming conventions, is it acceptable practice for me to leave my forked version of terminal-table having the same gem name (with a different version number) so that it can be easily identified and installed ? It seems like it will be a bit of effort and cause a lot of issues if I were to rename the gem in the specification
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<punkerplunk>
now bash won't curl
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<[k->
what are you doing punkerplunk
<punkerplunk>
good question
<punkerplunk>
I'm trying to find out why no valid gem when I try to remote install my gem
<[k->
punkerplunk we already solved that issue
<punkerplunk>
oh
<punkerplunk>
oh!
<[k->
we told you to stop searching...
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<punkerplunk>
scroll bar!
<[k->
scroll up ^
<punkerplunk>
speaking of which, be on the look out for scroll bars in alpha 0.0.2
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<Ox0dea>
"alpha" is pretty redundant on 0.0.x releases, in my opinion.
<Ox0dea>
punkerplunk: Why do you hate proper indentation?
<punkerplunk>
I was thinking of making it A.0.1
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<punkerplunk>
I'll work on indenting . . .
<Ox0dea>
Why SourceForge?
<punkerplunk>
I think I forgot to include the readme file which explains to push CONTROL ENTER to send to the irb
<punkerplunk>
sourceforge because I don't know what I'm doing
<Ox0dea>
Fair enough.
<[k->
ewww sourceforge
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<punkerplunk>
I've never used it before . . . as a developer I mean.
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<punkerplunk>
I think I used it to dl tripplea once
<[k->
good luck to you
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<punkerplunk>
oh well, it's a start, rocky as it is. I'll try to update in a week or so
<Ox0dea>
I vaguely considered using RubyVM::InstructionSequence.of on the passed block, but determining what it means to partially execute any given Ruby bytecode would be very hard.
<punkerplunk>
ha!
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<punkerplunk>
2.5 times do!
<Ox0dea>
It's great, right?
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<Ox0dea>
Doing it on a timer is at least passably robust for IO-bound blocks.
<punkerplunk>
I'm trying to understanding it
<punkerplunk>
could you possibly use codepoints of the supplied block?
<Ox0dea>
Codepoints are Unicode characters, essentially.
<Ox0dea>
You meant something else.
<punkerplunk>
{I mean only issuing h . . } and then escaping somehow
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<Ox0dea>
Well, doing so would devolve into reading and parsing the current file, which is both tedious and cheating.
<punkerplunk>
indeed
<punkerplunk>
I like it anyway.
<punkerplunk>
It. . . it seems like it would be useful when used with animations
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<Ox0dea>
To be sure, there are use cases for doing things a fractional number of times, but it's unlikely that Float should be the entry to such functionality.
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<punkerplunk>
well, we can't always be strictly functional
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<Alah-akbar>
o God Pork Pornostar !!!
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<punkerplunk>
gazoontite
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<Alah-akbar>
n5 God Pig Pornostar !!!
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<shevy>
do you sometimes have that feeling that you know that there is a bug out there somewhere, and you can see its result... yet you have a hard time finding the culprit
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<agent_white>
Yep. Like this fly that's in my room I can't find but I can hear it.
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<shevy>
hehe
<shevy>
I have this with mosquitos
<shevy>
I can hear them but it's hard to see the smaller ones
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<MrJiks_>
Hello
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<[k->
hello
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<MrJiks_>
[k-: irc is interesting!
<MrJiks_>
Moreover weechat is cool!
<[k->
?ot MrJiks_ :>
<ruboto>
MrJiks_, this seems to be off-topic. Please move your discussion to #ruby-offtopic, to keep this channel free for Ruby related problems. Thanks!
<[k->
go to off topic, everyone is there!
<MrJiks_>
Sure :)
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<shevy>
we need a rubychat client
<[k->
you need a better client!
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<shevy>
I have a good client
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<shevy>
but it's not in ruby :(
<[k->
you still need a better client
<[k->
or you should change your font
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<[k->
shevy, you could write one, but it might not pick up speed
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<[k->
so it would be kind of a waste
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<shevy>
[k- yeah
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<[k->
have you changed your font yet? :(
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<[k->
or use utf-8
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<shevy>
[k- my font is great
<shevy>
and I don't need utf
<[k->
but it doesn't support blanks!
<ddfreyne>
I wouldn’t mind a hackable Ruby IRC client. I don’t know of good IRC or terminal UI libraries ;(
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<[k->
cinchrb/cinch
<shevy>
[k- yeah, I can't use the snowman when I communicate with other people!
<ddfreyne>
That’s a IRC bot framework though
<jhass>
shevy: and that doesn't bother you?
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<ddfreyne>
☹
<[k->
ddfreyne you just have to build on top of it
<[k->
a client is just a bot with intelligence :p
<[k->
on /*/ do puts something
<shevy>
jhass I haven't yet had a sleepless night because of it no :)
<shevy>
amerian you can use appdirs such as in gobolinux, for all programs, thus have as many versions as you want to from any given program; some program may be interdependent though, such as when you will try to use different glibc or kernel versions or gcc together; but for ruby, I never had any problem with such an approach
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<amerian>
wow shevy thanks for letting me knpo
<amerian>
i didn't know that was possible
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<jhass>
and you probably shouldn't run your own version of it if it wasn't obvious to you
<amerian>
but as a general rule don't we always want the latest version?
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<jhass>
when starting new stuff, yes
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<jhass>
but then that version gets old, and who payed you to write something in it won't pay you for porting it to the new version but still pays you for doing fixes to it.. ;)
<sevenseacat>
we dont always get to use the latest version though - sometimes we maintain old code that uses older versions
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<ZoanthusR>
anyone still running into the ruby 2.2.2/sprockets file_store issue after patching to sprockets 2.12.4? - sprockets-2.12.4/lib/sprockets/cache/file_store.rb:27: [BUG] object allocation during garbage collection phase ruby 2.2.2p95 (2015-04-13 revision 50295) [x86_64-linux]
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<havenwood>
ZoanthusR: You might have better sprockets luck in the #RubyOnRails channel.
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<sevenseacat>
oh they askedthere too.
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<pontiki>
o/ sevenseacat
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<sevenseacat>
evening
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<havenwood>
aha
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<ZoanthusR>
havenwood: yes, seems specific to file_store.rb line 27 in sprockets, just wondering if someone here had it linked back to a specific spot in MRI.
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<ZoanthusR>
I am going to try rubinius and 2.1 then see if i can track it down in MRI 2.2
<ZoanthusR>
thx havenwood
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<apeiros>
?crosspost ZoanthusR
<ruboto>
ZoanthusR, Please do not crosspost without at least telling so and mentioning provided suggestions and their outcome in all channels. Experience shows that people don't do either, and not doing so is considered rude.
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<ZoanthusR>
sry apeiros was not getting much traction on ROR channel, wont happen again
<_blizzy_>
we... are the ruby gems.
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<_blizzy_>
I swear to god if team is still returning []
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<_blizzy_>
so, for some reason, it puts out the right info the first time (@team, check logs file), however, once it gets to 'switch' in the switch/case, it returns to [] https://gist.github.com/NotBlizzard/f5b91f9d720873129ee6
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<apeiros>
_blizzy_: from the code you gisted, it's not possible to say what's happening. maybe you're creating a new Battle instance?
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* sevenseacat
gives apeiros the crystal ball of awesome
* apeiros
blinks
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<shevy>
that cat is a generous one
<sevenseacat>
youre going to need it. along with the hat of patience.
<apeiros>
haha
<apeiros>
I have a wizards hat, maybe that helps with patience too… lets find out! :D
<sevenseacat>
:D
<Jeff__>
do you have a puppet hat?
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<apeiros>
no, I'm not Geppetto
<Jeff__>
no strings attached?
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<adaedra>
there are some, but they miss the final 0, so they end nowhere
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<_blizzy_>
apeiros, yes, I am.
* sevenseacat
gets popcorn
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<_blizzy_>
nevermind.
* sevenseacat
puts popcorn away.
<_blizzy_>
>.>
* apeiros
takes sevenseacat's popcorn
<apeiros>
if you don't want it…
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<[k->
can I have some too :>
<shevy>
it's made from mice
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<[k->
eww
* apeiros
gives [k- some of sevenseacat's popcorn
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<[k->
:3
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* adaedra
takes some popcorn from apeiros's sevenseacat's popcorn
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<shevy>
is this called sharing
<[k->
which action were you referring to?
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<shevy>
the passing of popcorn
<[k->
such an action does indeed qualify as sharing in this context
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<arup_r>
you will find they are saying some wild card matching : for example, *.example.org.
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<arup_r>
A wildcard certificate secures all subdomains of the specified domain, but only on one level
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<sevenseacat>
seems unrelated to ruby
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<arup_r>
sevenseacat: can you help me to finish my question
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<sevenseacat>
err, wat
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<arup_r>
and ruby or rails whatever we do host in server.. right ?
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<arup_r>
so what's wrong if I ask small doubt
<sevenseacat>
ruby, sometimes.
<sevenseacat>
not often.
<adaedra>
SSL certificates are usually handled by front-facing server like nginx
<arup_r>
Yes
<arup_r>
I just need a little help
<adaedra>
And wildcard certificates are expensive
<arup_r>
how to put wildcard so that it matches
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<arup_r>
why not able to sent the text... ?
<arup_r>
I am not able to send some domain names in this channel..
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<arup_r>
is there any filter ?
<arup_r>
any way this example.org and
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<arup_r>
or 'www. example.org'
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<jhass>
if there's any filter it's on your end
<arup_r>
can I write any wildcard ?
<adaedra>
arup_r: yes, with alternate names
<arup_r>
may be jhass :
<adaedra>
i.e., the certificate I have on adaedra.eu works for both adaedra.eu and www.adaedra.eu
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<arup_r>
I put spce to send it there
<adaedra>
(you can see such things in certificate details)
<arup_r>
yes that is 1 level ... I am asking 2 level
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<adaedra>
But if you want to use real-life certificate, this is something to see with your certificate provider
<jhass>
arup_r: you can't have *.*.example.org, only *.example.org or *.foo.example.org
<[k->
chrome says you use weak security SHA-1
<arup_r>
can I do it ? I treid .staging.example.com
<adaedra>
[k-: me?
<arup_r>
ok
<[k->
yes
<adaedra>
arup_r: you're generating your own certificates?
<adaedra>
[k-: I got A on SSLlabs tests iirc, let me check that
<arup_r>
yes,,, and then i signed them by an authority
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<arup_r>
But I signed it for .example.org
<[k->
weak security configuration***
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<jhass>
arup_r: note that you could have one certificate with *.example.org and *.foo.example.org as alternative names, however I think you'll have a hard time finding a CA allowing that
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<arup_r>
for now i want to use it also for sometime staging.example.org
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<jhass>
[k-: SHA1 is not broken, there are just better alternatives with less doubts about them, that's why browsers start to phase it out
<adaedra>
arup_r: it's better to have just alternate names for non wildcard domain. You can have a certificate which covers a.example.org, b.example.org, c.d.example.org and e.example.net in the same, without wildcards.
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<arup_r>
jhass: ok for wildcard matching I need to ask the CA team... to genreate such .crt you mean ?
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<jhass>
that in any case
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<arup_r>
ok
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<arup_r>
adaedra: and jhass : thanks for the information
<arup_r>
this is what the info was needed
<jhass>
arup_r: next time head to #ruby-offtopic though
<arup_r>
ok.. I didn't know it exist
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<William|i7>
so i was guessing another module, app:Controller:Category..
<[k->
you need to require that first
<William|i7>
its there
<William|i7>
its all working
<[k->
where
<William|i7>
config.ru
<[k->
so it works?
<William|i7>
yea
<William|i7>
its gravey
<William|i7>
if thats still a saying
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<[k->
gravey?
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<William|i7>
good
<William|i7>
so ya was thinking a Controller module
<William|i7>
but i couldnt get the Routes module to talk to it
<William|i7>
not without some bs so im sure i was doing it wrong
<[k->
sorry I'm not familiar with rails/Sinatra terms
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<William|i7>
well modules are ruby?
<[k->
also I'm not really following the convo
<MouseTheLuckyDog>
Ohhh. There is a gem called hijack.
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<apeiros>
oh wow, how did I not know? I guess I assumed because of `initialize` that methods inherited visibility. but they don't :-O
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<[k->
william so you want the route functions in another file?
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<[k->
define them as constants
<[k->
then you can access them
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<guba>
ns. Nothing on during. Most people are runna ma naes.
<guba>
It's a football players.
<guba>
Juni Joans Football game! Boyer game, it's a football game! Brucesht boyer game.
<guba>
Nothing but the world cares about a group of the football is the worst sport events on television. College football game, it's no lie it's a football game! It's a football. No one in most people are runna ma naes. It is on television.
<guba>
bucklegusk coyerst apprit's as no lie of that say ever my evis a groyer!
<guba>
The worst sport ever moyer coyer! Brucesht, boyer royer royer football game, so they go bored, makes me say oh my eyes it up, we'll game. I'm swearing on television is college football game! Raa Lynx game, it's a bratty asshole. Rum-dum-dum-football. No!
<guba>
Deep in most people are runna ma naes.
<guba>
Football game. Most as me time but football makes me say aftere. Cornbucklers ram agains, and ritter boyer royer the Jaguars. Most of the on is on teams than rears, uh, and othing on teams television. I'm swearing but thing Saturday oh moyer game. No on during but football.
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<guba>
Deept the oh football paing of a my even thing oh ong ot moyer food. Excer cornbucept proyers.
<guba>
Notball. It wat wores, a Lown thision it's Most one na football. Excesht! Footbal game, afteler carege whand re telege it's th my and youtball ing. Colts, Cort about abor moyer! It so on drything whaturd, aboyers, but age th much otball go brucks a grout a foothe hens, aboys, my gam spors, ter!
<guba>
me! Raa Lynx game.
<apeiros>
!mute guba
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<apeiros>
*sob*, idiots awake again…
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<aperosguba>
! Brucesht! The worst sport ever moyer boyer foot ball! Brucesht, boyer. notch, and that's a fucker game, it's a soccer game, so boyer coyer! Boyer football! Boyer royer! Boyer made. No!
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<aperosguba>
The world cares about football. After the worse thing but as watching on during on during. Most people are runna ma naes.
<aperosguba>
It's a football. Nothing prime but the Jaguars, Cornfuckers, Cornbuck fuck cornhuskers, Cowboys, Ravens, Cornhuskers, so they go brucesht boyer football game it's a football game, it's no lie it's a futball game, so the Jaguars, so boyer football game. It's a soccer game, it's a futball and rittered. Except when I cover moyer! Brucesht boyer royer moyer! Boyer!
<aperosguba>
Stop lawyyer made. Lynx game, so bored, makes me say oh my eyes it sucks ten rears.
<apeiros>
!mute aperosguba
<aperosguba>
Juni Jonn Joans Football game. It's a soccer game, so the Nebraska Cornhusk. Fuck cornhuskers, Cornhusk. Husk, cornhusk. Husk, cornhuskers, so the worst sport events on during. Most people are runna ma naes. It is college football is the Jaguars, Cornhuskers, Cornbucklers. Rum-dum-dum-dum-football. Nothing on television is the Jaguars, so the worse they shown on during worst sport everything on
<apeiros>
!kick aperosguba
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!ban aperosguba
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<apeiros>
nope.
<apeiros>
idiots indeed.
<apeiros>
mental age of a 5y old…
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<adaedra>
I can has his free time? Seems he doesn't need it.
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<[k->
hehehehehehehehe
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<[k->
aperosguba
<apeiros>
yeah, they even fail at spelling
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<adaedra>
apéro?
<apeiros>
adaedra: yes please
<adaedra>
:D
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<BrianBoyko>
Howdy guys. I'm having a little bit of trouble here. I want to run an app that polls the database and (through Sinatra) creates a Json file with the results. But I can't quite figure out where I'm going wrong. Here's the gist: https://gist.github.com/brianboyko/16fb5b51e152f650e0cc
<apeiros>
BrianBoyko: it helps if you describe what makes you think that you're going wrong.
<BrianBoyko>
Now, I *can* get it to update any time someone makes a charge - but it reverts to null after a few minutes without someone making a charge.
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<BrianBoyko>
So that's another program entirely.
<apeiros>
did you try to run `conn.exec("SELECT SUM(amount) AS total FROM donors").getvalue( 0, 0 )` in pry/irb?
<BrianBoyko>
What's pry/irb?
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<apeiros>
?irb
<ruboto>
I don't know anything about irb
<apeiros>
gah
<apeiros>
gotta add that
<apeiros>
irb is "interactive ruby", you can run ruby code and see results immediately. it's useful for testing code.
<apeiros>
and pry:
<apeiros>
?pry BrianBoyko
<ruboto>
BrianBoyko, Pry, the better IRB. Includes easy object inspection via `ls`, `history`, docs view with `?`, source view with `$` and syntax highlighting, among other features (see `help` for more). It can also be used for easy debugging by putting ’binding.pry’ directy in your source code. Visit https://pryrepl.org/ or get it now with gem install pry pry-doc
<apeiros>
irb ships with ruby.
<apeiros>
pry is a gem.
<BrianBoyko>
Ahhh...
<BrianBoyko>
I don't have access to pry, but I ran IRB and I've aded the output to the gist
<apeiros>
uh, you're now running sinatra in your irb. that's not the idea.
<apeiros>
only run the code to connect to your db and run your query.
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<apeiros>
I'd exit irb, restart it and then do that…
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<BrianBoyko>
~ $ irb conn.exec("SELECT SUM(amount) AS total FROM donors").getvalue( 0, 0 ) bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
<apeiros>
errrrr…
<apeiros>
start irb
<apeiros>
*then* connect to your db
<apeiros>
*then* run the query
<apeiros>
irb is not magic.
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<BrianBoyko>
?magic
<ruboto>
I don't know anything about magic
<BrianBoyko>
0, 0 )in):001:0> conn.exec("SELECT SUM(amount) AS total FROM donors").getvalue(
<BrianBoyko>
NameError: undefined local variable or method `conn' for main:Object
<BrianBoyko>
from (irb):1
<BrianBoyko>
from /app/bin/irb:15:in `<main>'
<apeiros>
!fact add magic any sufficiently analyzed magic is indistinguishable from science!
<ruboto>
apeiros, I will remember that magic is any sufficiently analyzed magic is indistinguishable from science!
<apeiros>
BrianBoyko: from where do you think irb should know about `conn`?
<apeiros>
as said, irb is not magic.
<BrianBoyko>
require 'pg'?
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<apeiros>
it can't magically infer from an lvar name, that it should connect to a database using a specific username, password, host etc.
<apeiros>
BrianBoyko: you have all the code you need in front of you. you even gisted it.
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<BrianBoyko>
Ah, okay, apeiros - when I run conn.exec (after adding require pg and all the code) I get "6500" which is the correct number.
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<BrianBoyko>
So, up to line 21, I seem to be doing okay.
<apeiros>
BrianBoyko: ok, the question you have to solve is when and why getvalue(0,0) would return nil
<apeiros>
as that's what's apparently happening
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<BrianBoyko>
sorry, not nil.
<BrianBoyko>
Null.
<MouseTheLuckyDog>
I'm trying to use something called hijack to debug some running code. But I'm getting lost in some of the docs, https://github.com/ileitch/hijack. I'm not sure whether action controller is a part of Ruby or a part of the code that is being debugged. Or how that l;ittle snippet works.
<BrianBoyko>
{"money":null,"donors":null}
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<apeiros>
BrianBoyko: in json it's null
<BrianBoyko>
Well, it's not returning null.
<apeiros>
BrianBoyko: ruby does not have null
<BrianBoyko>
or nil.
<BrianBoyko>
It's returning 6500.
<apeiros>
and ruby's nil is translated to null in the .to_json
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<apeiros>
hence: your getvalue(0, 0) is returning nil.
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<BrianBoyko>
Here's the thing - if I were to add a third variable, say :test => 1 - to that json, it wouldn't update.
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<BrianBoyko>
The problem is not that it's outputting the wrong thing. It's that it's not outputting anything.
<sphex>
hey. is it reasonable to attempt to use continuations or fibers with asynchronous I/O frameworks (say like EventMachine)?
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<sphex>
use them to make the IO appear synchronous to user code, that is
<yorickpeterse>
EM is hell
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<[k->
I didn't touch EM
<[k->
I just wrote my own loop
<[k->
and dispatched my own events
<[k->
...
<yorickpeterse>
[k-: how's that square wheel of yours?
<[k->
you can use the Observer pattern tho
<yorickpeterse>
sphex: what do you need async IO/evented programming for?
<[k->
yorickpeterse unfortunately, I can't roll with those
<[k->
I'm so bland
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<sphex>
[k-: events callbacks can get really complicated pretty fast. I've had enough of them for a lifetime. continuations and "soft threads" were thought up in the 80s to solve these problems efficiently. I'f really like to get to use them now. :/
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<yorickpeterse>
If you must EM, with all its warts, is the only really stable solution I know of atm
<yorickpeterse>
also bbl, groceries (the horror of social interactions, brrrr)
<sphex>
yorickpeterse: ok, thanks for the link, gonna check this out
<sphex>
I don't insist on EM, it's just one of the async IO framework I noticied a few time. I was just wondering if there's any such framework that is continuation/fiber-friendly.
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<ilr>
.
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<shevy>
hey
<shevy>
careful with the '.', one day we may run out of them ilr
<[k->
<shevy>
what is that
<shevy>
I can not even see it
<[k->
oh noes we just did
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<shevy>
ah I see
<[k->
it was meant to be a period
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<shevy>
yeah
<shevy>
now our sentences will be period-less
<pontiki>
but will they be timely?
<Jeff__>
how do i build dependency of a gem module?
<[k->
haha
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<[k->
you can't request for timely messages on irc
<pontiki>
i don't think you can request for period messages, either
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<pontiki>
"please respond in the tone of the later Ottoman republic"
<[k->
lel
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<shevy>
Jeff__ you just specify the dependencies in your .gemspec file
<Jeff__>
can i do it via commandline
<shevy>
for instance: s.add_dependency 'rake', '>= 1.0.6'
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<shevy>
these are hardcoded and I don't think you can bypass them, but I am not 100% sure
<Jeff__>
otherwise i may do `sudo apt-get build-dep [package']` bc i'm using puppet/puppet-librarian
<shevy>
I think debian maintains their own infrastructure altogether
<Jeff__>
ah
<shevy>
otherwise you would not need apt-get
<Jeff__>
apt-get has the package, but usually gem is newer
<shevy>
it is no big deal though, you can always manually install a .gem file; it's just an archive anyway
<shevy>
yeah
<shevy>
debian is concerned about making their internal-cycle with dependencies work, at the cost of slower upgrades to the most-recent variant
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<BrianBoyko>
Okay. I'm stuck. Very stuck.
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<mozzarella>
!unstuck
<[k->
Dangerous operation: unstuck
<[k->
Operation aborted
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<BrianBoyko>
Somehow, I've gotten it so that when I run my payment processor, app.rb (on Heroku), it correctly logs files to a postgresql database. Then it queries that postgresql database and generates and serves a Json file, using Sinatra. But after a few minutes, the values revert to nil/null. Weirdly, It's still serving the json file, it's just that the values "time out."
<BrianBoyko>
So I've tried all sorts of workarounds, but I'm not sure how to get what I need working.
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<BrianBoyko>
I thought the timeout was because of the heroku dyno spinning down, but no, I've upgraded the dyno and it still doesn't work.
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<punkerplunk>
when I require irb, and I start a session with IRB.start, how can I ensure noinspect mode?
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<_blizzy_>
so, for some reason, it puts out the right info the first time (@team, check logs file), however, once it gets to 'switch' in the switch/case, it returns to [] https://gist.github.com/NotBlizzard/f5b91f9d720873129ee6
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<[k->
wo the code looks much cleaner!
<[k->
well done!
<[k->
as I said, you shouldn't use for loops
<punkerplunk>
hey blizzy, you want sdl incorporation with your battle?
<[k->
change it to 5.times
<_blizzy_>
punkerplunk, sdl?
<apeiros>
[k-: you mean "change it to data['side']['pokemon'].each", right? right?!? right?!!!?!?
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<apeiros>
;-)
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<apeiros>
and when we're at it - not .each but .map. and with fixed indentation…
<noob>
hi
<[k->
no, I did not read that code that much
<noob>
I have a noob question here
<_blizzy_>
hi no
<[k->
I saw for loops, and it was offensive to me
<_blizzy_>
*noob
<pontiki>
as on ly you could
<noob>
in ruby codes i see lots of : colons
<[k->
so I wanted to change it immediately
<_blizzy_>
noob, you might be thinking of Python?
<[k->
I stopped reading then :)
<noob>
which makes it really difficult to understand
<noob>
any tips to overcome this : shyness and confusion ?
<ruboto>
Please add more context to your question, what are you doing, why are you doing it, which libraries are involved. Post some code to gist if it clarifies your question.
<punkerplunk>
scope resolution Module::Constant
<sphex>
noob: symbols?
<_blizzy_>
nothing like accidentally opening up word
<noob>
sphex: not only symbols
<noob>
but everywhere we can see colons..
<noob>
wait i will put an example sphex
<[k->
that's what ruboto said!
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<apeiros>
or any `team << …`?
<_blizzy_>
no
<apeiros>
that's why
<apeiros>
with .each we'd still need that.
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<apeiros>
with .map we don't need it
<_blizzy_>
couldn't you also use inject
<apeiros>
I could. it'd be ugly.
<_blizzy_>
hmm, thanks, apeiros
<noob>
sphex: also it is my problem that i have tried tryRuby and rubyMonk tutorials but real life codes are really complex.. how to become an expert ? there are lots of books and stuuffs but what do real programmers do to learn ruby ?
<[k->
no, we should call it reduce!
<_blizzy_>
however that still doesn't solve my problem. c:
<sphex>
noob: "::" and "." are a bit confusing it. IIUC, "::" is just a namespace-access operator, but "." means a method call, except for "constants" (which starts with uppercase), in which case it acts a bit more like "::". not completely sure I got this right though.
<[k->
down with inject, up with reduce!
<noob>
yep.. i am clear about colons now
<noob>
sphex: thank you
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<noob>
but can you tell me how to really jump into hardcore ruby programming.. something that starts from the bottom and takes to the sky with some projects
<pontiki>
it's called "everyday life", noob
<_blizzy_>
noob, learn ruby, then hack your way through a rails project
<_blizzy_>
pontiki, without context, that sounds rude, lol
<[k->
bleh, you don't need rails
<sphex>
noob: frankly, I dunno. I was already familiar with other similar languages before I tried ruby, so that helped *a lot*. ruby can be pretty hard to learn otherwise. but you'll be a really good programmer after that.
<_blizzy_>
rails is love, rails is life
<_blizzy_>
i've made a few apps in rails
<_blizzy_>
some are on heroku
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<pontiki>
i don't care, _blizzy_
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<_blizzy_>
pontiki, it wasn't supposed to be taken seriously
<pontiki>
neither is this
<_blizzy_>
ok.
<noob>
i know all the basics of OOP and databases... i understand almost everything from the conceptual point.. tutorials are boring because they dont provide a good project with it
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<noob>
I now want to dive into programming but have no idea which resource to refer to
<noob>
i am also doing rails by the way sphex and _blizzy_
<_blizzy_>
noob, nice
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<_blizzy_>
rails will get you jobs
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<_blizzy_>
that's if you stay on track
<_blizzy_>
get it? rails? tracks?
<_blizzy_>
.-.
<noob>
tracks ?
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<_blizzy_>
nvm, just stick with rails.
<[k->
rails are tracks...
<noob>
ohh
<noob>
lol
<noob>
got it
<noob>
well do you guys work on your pet project as well ?
<_blizzy_>
yes.
<noob>
or some opensource projects ?
<_blizzy_>
atm I'm working on an AI Pokemon bot
<noob>
okay
<[k->
*cough*
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<noob>
can i start to contribute on it
<noob>
like i will be a trainee and you can be my mentor
<apeiros>
btw. [k-: aligning code is cmd-k -> cmd-a for me (sublime valign plugin) ;-)
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<[k->
*cough*
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<[k->
_blizzy_ could the reason be that you are modifying team in place?
<_blizzy_>
[k-, no. c:
<[k->
if all else fails, you need to set_trace_func
<[k->
hehe good luck reading that
<noob>
_blizzy_: can i contribute to your project as a learner ?
<_blizzy_>
noob, not atm. c:
<_blizzy_>
since atm it's a solo project.
<noob>
okay
<noob>
_blizzy_: have you used legato gem before ?
<_blizzy_>
no.
<noob>
GooGle analytics then ?
<[k->
?use
<ruboto>
Don't ask "does anyone use <thing>?". It's better to just state your problem and if anyone has used <thing> they will most likely answer.
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<_blizzy_>
[k-, I know i'm not modifying because get_team is the only method touching @team
<noob>
ruboto: got it
<[k->
do you have some rogue methods elsewhere?
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<[k->
if all else fails, the second last resort could be @team.freeze
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<[k->
iirc Ruby will warn if you try to modify it
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<[k->
may not crash tho
<[k->
so you may not get a stack trace
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<[k->
well I have to go now, good luck
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<_blizzy_>
so I tried using freeze
<_blizzy_>
it still resets to nil for some reason
<apeiros>
freeze freezes objects, not variables
<apeiros>
you can't stop yourself from assigning to variables.
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<apeiros>
hm, I think that "ho-hum" doesn't mean what I want it to mean
<apeiros>
centrx: I checked who sent privmsgs to ruboto
<apeiros>
and what
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<apeiros>
and you came up :-p
<centrx>
I hacked in
<centrx>
got the codes
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<sacarlson>
how can I check if a proccess is still running from within my ruby app? like ps -A | grep thisprogram to get status if a background app still running?
<Tau>
is there a default graphic lib for ruby? like tkinter for python?
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<jhass>
hm, I think tk is still in stdlib
<Ox0dea>
It is.
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<Ox0dea>
noethics: I recently added #times to Float for midkeks, but the implementation's being timeout- rather than instruction-based made it even more useless than it might've been.
<Ox0dea>
Entertaining nevertheless.
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<apeiros>
noethics: how's that not a monkey patch?
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<dotix>
is there a way (and how idiomatic is) to declare variables like you do with functions ? E.g. ["a", "b"].each { |v| define_method("#{a}_something") { function attr } }
<dotix>
looking for something like ["var1", "var2"].each { |v| "#{v}" = function_call(v) } }
<apeiros>
dotix: don't.
<Ox0dea>
dotix: Use an array.
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<apeiros>
s/array/hash/
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<apeiros>
well, with var1, var2 - array is right actually :)
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<apeiros>
dotix: whenever you feel the need to dynamically set or get *local* variables, then you're doing it *horribly* wrong.
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<apeiros>
only known exception to this is template engines.
<dotix>
so it's not a good practice
<apeiros>
it's not just not good. it's horrible.
<Ox0dea>
It's the worst possible thing you can do.
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<dotix>
Okay :) I use define_method quite often. It's not the same situation right?
<Ox0dea>
You probably have a tendency to use it where you needn't, but it certainly has its place.
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<apeiros>
dotix: no
<apeiros>
though I'd wonder why you use define_method often
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<dotix>
well I do web scrapping and I have some attributes
<dotix>
when I create the extract_#{attr} for example
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<dotix>
based on table columns
<apeiros>
dotix: and do you at any time access that extract_#{attr} in a non-dynamical way?
<Tau>
shevy i see.
<shevy>
:)
<shevy>
ruby-qt and ruby-gnome do look better though
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<dotix>
sorry apeiros, don't get your question. What do you mean by non-dynamical way?
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<apeiros>
say you have attr = 'foo', and you define extract_#{attr}, non-dynamical access would be you actually call extract_foo
<dotix>
no
<apeiros>
then you're creating lot of overhead for nothing.
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<apeiros>
use hashes and arrays throughout
<apeiros>
extract[attr] = value; extract[attr]
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<apeiros>
no point in defining a separate method if you only use it dynamically anyway.
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<Ox0dea>
dotix: After all, an HTML table is really just another representation of an array of hashes, no?
<dotix>
well deep down I call them but programatically
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<dotix>
like self.public_methods.grep(...extract_....).each { etc etc }
<Ox0dea>
But hwhy?
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<dotix>
I can't give examples since is production code..
<dotix>
I find it easier
<Ox0dea>
Sounds like masochism to me.
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<apeiros>
dotix: yeah, really, you're using the wrong tool by using dynamically defined methods.
<apeiros>
that's what we got datastructures for.
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<dotix>
Yes.. unfortunately I don't have solid arguments. That's why I asked
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<apeiros>
and you got a very clear response :)
<jhass>
it's horrible!
<apeiros>
horrible! I tell you! horrible!
<jhass>
just in case it wasn't clear enough
<apeiros>
and now, let me find that balmer's peak
<apeiros>
in order to write some horrible code myself :D
<dotix>
Well thank you for this. Maybe it'll make sense from some point, but I can't give too many details or code snippets
<apeiros>
not necessary. the picture is clear enough.
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<jhass>
dotix: {foo: ->(node) { doc.xpath("./foo")["bar"] }} is valid, just in case you didn't realize
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<dotix>
yes it is
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<dotix>
well a reason for doing this is to have less code to maintain right
<jhass>
I think we need a pattern book on web scraping or so, not the first time I see quite fishy design in that area :/
<dotix>
if you have an xpath and you need to change only one word
<apeiros>
dotix: you're having *more* code your way
<apeiros>
so if you think that's a reason for it, you're very very wrong.
<dotix>
/div[cotains(text(), 'Word')]
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<dotix>
it makes sense for me to have a function def something param; page.search(//div[cotains(text(), '#{param}')]).text; end;
<dotix>
and make all extract_attr with define_method
<Ox0dea>
> '#{param}'
<apeiros>
dotix: really, go familiarize yourself with the Hash class.
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<apeiros>
also that example doesn't show any connection between your `something` method and your `extract_*` methods
<Jeff__>
can i use puppetlabs-mysql module to define database tables?
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<apeiros>
?puppet Jeff__
<ruboto>
Jeff__, Please join #puppet for help with it.
<dotix>
well ok apeiros let me give you a dummy example to show you what I'm trying to say
<apeiros>
dotix: sure.
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* Ox0dea
dons corporate lawyer hat.
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<EllisTAA>
so i was wondering what program is executing my files that are exe?
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<apeiros>
EllisTAA: windows
<EllisTAA>
apeiros: so you’re saying the program is the os?
<jhass>
the kernel, specifically
<apeiros>
since windows is the only OS which has .exe, I specifically say it is windows.
<EllisTAA>
ah
<EllisTAA>
i swear i have exe files on my mac ...
<apeiros>
but generically speaking: binary executables are executed by your OS, yes.
<jhass>
apeiros: you can actually make the linux kernel run .exe files :P
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<apeiros>
EllisTAA: then you have an emulator
<apeiros>
ooooookay. your OS *or* an emulation layer.
<EllisTAA>
isn’t there a bin folder in ruby proejcts that have files with exe ?
<apeiros>
dotix: yeah, no, makes no sense at all. use a hash.
<jhass>
Wine is not an emulator
<EllisTAA>
im looking for an example brb
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<jhass>
that's it's actual name
<dotix>
Good, how?
<apeiros>
or parametrize
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<EllisTAA>
ok nvm i ca’nt find an example, thanks though
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<apeiros>
dotix: make a proper example where you actually use your extract methods
<apeiros>
dotix: because as you said, you don't use them literally, you use dynamic means to invoke them too…
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<EllisTAA>
can someone explain the difference between a kernel and an os
<apeiros>
the kernel is part of your OS
<apeiros>
so the difference is like the difference between your arm and you. your arm is part of you. it isn't you.
<EllisTAA>
thanks
<Ox0dea>
You should have used brain instead of arm.
<apeiros>
the specifics depend on the OS
<jhass>
EllisTAA: I'm sure the wikipedia articles on "Kernel" and "Operating system" are great in detailing the difference
<apeiros>
Ox0dea: noooo, guts
<Ox0dea>
jhass: EllisTAA doesn't have Internet access.
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<apeiros>
?ot EllisTAA
<ruboto>
EllisTAA, this seems to be off-topic. Please move your discussion to #ruby-offtopic, to keep this channel free for Ruby related problems. Thanks!
<jhass>
Ox0dea: good thing you only need google and wikipedia access these days
<apeiros>
there's countries where they have specifically WP access only
<apeiros>
special deals with mobile carriers
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<EllisTAA>
what is the difference betweeen googling it and asking the room
<jhass>
apeiros: sure, we have that for spotify
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<apeiros>
EllisTAA: go to #ruby-offtopic for this stuff. that's not ruby related.
<jhass>
google has it in some asian country iirc
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<jhass>
EllisTAA: I'll happily answer your last question over there btw
<EllisTAA>
ok
<apeiros>
dotix: well, without you providing a meaningful example, here my not-meaningful version which doesn't need define_method and is already less code: https://gist.github.com/apeiros/f4c71767f1f1c334bbae
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<dotix>
yes but I need extract_* functions. I can't give you more code from here
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<apeiros>
dotix: no, you don't need them.
<dotix>
you're saying it's okay to use define_method but only if you call those methods. That's enough for me :)
<apeiros>
that's not what I'm saying
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<dotix>
Then why is so relevant for you what I do with those functions?
<apeiros>
I say that using dynamically defined methods only dynamically is a code smell.
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<apeiros>
or stink even.
<dotix>
Well, where do you think *we* (as rubyists) should use them?
<apeiros>
dynamically defined methods?
<apeiros>
look no further than attr_reader/_writer etc.
<apeiros>
there are certainly more cases
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<apeiros>
but dynamically defined methods which are only invoked dynamically are an abuse. as said before, that's what we've got datastructures for.
<knite>
hi #ruby, I'm a Python dev jumping over to your side of the pond for a minute. there's a Ruby gem on Github I'd like to install locally, and I'm having some trouble with it. I basically did: hub clone foo; cd foo; gem build foo.gemspec; gem install foo.0.1.1.gem. when I try running foo, it fails due to missing a dependency.
<jhass>
dotix: let's take a popular non-stdlib: ActiveRecord. It dynamically defines accessor methods for all your fields. But it also provides the #[] for dynamically accessing them
<havenwood>
knite: They may have missed a dep. Having it installed they may not have realized it was missing.
<havenwood>
knite: What's the dep?
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<dotix>
jhass, I agree
<knite>
docile-1.1.5.
<knite>
havenwood: ^
<havenwood>
knite: Ahh, just read how you installed it.
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<havenwood>
knite: With a modern RubyGems run `gem i -g --no-lock` or run `bundle` after installing the Bundler gem on an older RubyGems.
<knite>
I take it I've done this wrong, then? I read about rvm vs rbenv vs chruby, installed rbenv, then installed a global ruby (latest, 2.2.2). then I had to learn about Gemfiles, gemspecs, and bundler, which is where I'm probably still mixed up.
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<havenwood>
knite: ^ to install development deps. If you did `gem install terraforming` it should automatically fetch the deps.
<SCHAAP137>
working on my cinch IRC bot again, lots of fun
<havenwood>
knite: The standard process when grabbing gems for development is to `bundle` or use RubyGems's new `gem i -g`.
<havenwood>
knite: For gem users they *just work*.
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<havenwood>
knite: The gem ships with a Gemfile to make it easy on devs to install deps.
<apeiros>
SCHAAP137:
<havenwood>
knite: Via Bundler or new RubyGems feature.
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<Ox0dea>
apeiros: Stroke?
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<apeiros>
Ox0dea: get better utf-8 fonts :-p
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<apeiros>
s/utf-8/unicode/
<Ox0dea>
How embarrassing.
<knite>
havenwood: gotcha. I ran "bundle" previously (which I assume is the same as bundle install). this did install a giant pile of deps into my ruby. I then second guessed myself because further reading made it sound like bundle is only used when *developing* a gem, not installing it.
<SCHAAP137>
apeiros: just made my own implementation of a google search, duckduckgo search, openweathermap, imdb, various unit conversions etc
<apeiros>
SCHAAP137: nice
<SCHAAP137>
mostly using nokogiri, open-uri, json
<apeiros>
SCHAAP137: opensource?
<havenwood>
knite: Are you using RVM or something else?
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<SCHAAP137>
my addons u mean apeiros ? no haven't shared them
<havenwood>
knite: Normally to install a gem you use `gem install gem-name-here` not cloning the repo - that's for development.
<knite>
so there's no equivalent to pip install git+http://github.com/... in python or package.json referring to a repo in node. the right way to do it is a clone + bundle?
<havenwood>
knite: The Gemfile to install the gemdeps dependencies is just a convenience. For gems you don't commit the Gemfile.lock but the Gemfile is useful to install deps.
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<havenwood>
knite: You could create a `Gemfile` or the newer `gem.deps.rb` file and add it. The added bonus is it does dependency resolution with other gems in there.
<jfarmer>
knite It depends on what you're trying to install. I can say that I've never done clone+bundle unless my intentional was to do development on a particular project.
<SCHAAP137>
apeiros: when i've improved them i'll put them on github
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<apeiros>
SCHAAP137: top :)
<jfarmer>
intention*
<SCHAAP137>
apeiros: still need to make separate plugins, it's now all in 1 big .rb file
<dotix>
ahh... alternative to be_within matcher if you have array of fixnums?
<knite>
havenwood: first of all, thanks for all of your help. I'm a little bit confused, because my impression was that rbenv and rvm are meant to isolate ruby deps so different projects with different requirements won't collide. how can I make this work at a system level, then? let's say I want to install command line tools A and B, which are both ruby projects. they have conflicting dependencies. I don't intend to hack on either project,
<knite>
just need both tools. what's the right way to install them both?
<jfarmer>
knite No
<havenwood>
knite: For example, your `gem.deps.rb` content could just be `gem 'nokogiri', github: 'tenderlove/nokogiri'` and you can `gem i -g --no-lock` to resolve deps with any other gems in there and install the proper versions.
<jfarmer>
knite bundler handles isolating gems on a project level, although rvm (which predates bundler) has a feature called "gemsets" that can do this, too
<jfarmer>
You'd never use rvm and rbenv together; they're two projects built for the same purpose
<havenwood>
knite: rbenv curates a garden of shims in your PATH that front for ruby and gems
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<jfarmer>
knite rvm and rbenv exist primarily to make switching between ruby versions and interpreters easier
<knite>
jfarmer: sorry if I was unclear. I am only using rbenv, based on some initial digging suggesting that rvm is too heavyweight and mucks with my shell.
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<havenwood>
knite: RubyGems, which ships with Ruby, can install gems into isolated locations or globally and resolve deps.
<jfarmer>
knite That's fine. rbenv does nothing to isolate gems at the project level
<havenwood>
knite: For older RubyGems or Rails Bundler can do that same job - plus some bells and whistles.
<jfarmer>
That's what Gemfile, Gemfile.lock, and bundler are for
<havenwood>
Or gem.deps.rb, gem.deps.rb.lock and gem i -g are for
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<havenwood>
Now that RubyGems can do these things
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<jfarmer>
(I've never heard of those before this instant in 10+ years of writing Ruby.)
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<jfarmer>
Except the gem command.
<havenwood>
jfarmer: They're relatively new RubyGems additions.
<jfarmer>
Ok
<havenwood>
jfarmer: The mysterious future.
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<jfarmer>
For someone just coming to Ruby-land like knite, the answer is "bundler is what everyone uses to manage and isolate dependencies at the project level."
<knite>
okay...so same question, given two gems A and B with incompatible deps that I need to install (does it even matter whether they are GH projects or published gems) on my system because they are CLI tools, what's the recommended way to do that?
<jfarmer>
Seems like he was confused about the role of rbenv vs. bundler
<havenwood>
jfarmer: Rails still hardcodes to Bundler but RubyGems has been working great for me as a replacement. I'm enjoying my post-Bundler existence.
<jfarmer>
havenwood Ok
<dotix>
based on a delta(or epsilon) I have this test: expect(func(smth)).to be_withing(:epsilon).of(value) . It works great with Fixnum. Ideas for making it work for arrays?
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<jfarmer>
But, like...
<jfarmer>
How many projects use it?
<dotix>
sorry for typo
<havenwood>
jfarmer: Bundler?
<havenwood>
jfarmer: Or the new RubyGems features?
<jfarmer>
This new RubyGems thing?
<jfarmer>
For the purpose of someone trying to un-confuse themselves about the relationship between these different tools, throwing in a relatively new RubyGems thing seems confusing.
<havenwood>
jfarmer: Hem, mpapis of RVM has been recommending it. The mainstream is still Bundler but it works great.
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<jfarmer>
knite Incompatible how?
<havenwood>
jfarmer: I think the redundant Bundler complicates things. :P
<havenwood>
jfarmer: If it wasn't for Rails we could just not mention it.
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<havenwood>
jfarmer: Things that ship with Ruby are simpler.
<jfarmer>
That would be dishonest for anyone just approaching this.
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<knite>
jfarmer: gem A depends on gem C version 1, gem B depends on gem C, but version 2.
<jfarmer>
It would paint an inaccurate picture of how most of the Ruby world works.
<havenwood>
jfarmer: What would be dishonest?
<jfarmer>
Pretending bundler doesn't exist.
<jfarmer>
This isn't helping knite
<jfarmer>
knite No, I get that.
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<jfarmer>
I mean...specifically what are the conflicts?
<havenwood>
jfarmer: Showing how to make things simply work with what ships with Ruby?
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<jfarmer>
havenwood If it runs contrary to 90%+ of what they would experience when interacting with other projects, yes.
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<havenwood>
jfarmer: It's a simpler, more future-looking alternative that is appropriate unless Rails is involved.
<jfarmer>
havenwood This isn't productive.
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<havenwood>
jfarmer: Apparently you're learning about features that ship with RubyGems.
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<havenwood>
How long has 2.2.0 been out?
<havenwood>
Dec 26, 2013
<jfarmer>
havenwood You're missing my point and this isn't productive. I want to help knite.
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<knite>
oh, I don't have a specific conflict yet. I just see that if I install the package I care about (terraforming) with bundle (or the trickier gem command from havenwood), it's dropping like a dozen dependencies into my system ruby. so in JSland, modules are isolated by each one having its dependencies in a separate node_modules folder. and in Pythonland, I use a tool called pipsi to create a separate virtualenv for any Python CLI tool
<knite>
need (because default pip has the same problem I'm describing).
<knite>
so I'm asking how to solve this problem in Rubyland.
<jfarmer>
knite Ah. I can honestly say I've never run into this problem at the system-level.
<jfarmer>
At the project level, bundler handles it
<havenwood>
knite: In Bundler it's `--path` and in RubyGems it's `--install-dir`.
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<havenwood>
knite: `bundle --path vendor/bundle` or `gem i -g --install-dir vendor/bundle` for example
<knite>
jfarmer: don't you feel squicky having tons of gems installed in your system ruby? or are there just not a lot of ruby CLI tools (main big one I can think of is sass)?
<jfarmer>
knite There just aren't that many.
<jfarmer>
I should look and see
<Ox0dea>
There are many.
<jfarmer>
Haha
<jfarmer>
I mean, there _are_ a lot, but I don't know how many the typical developer uses.
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<jfarmer>
Let alone in a way that creates conflicts
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<ruboto>
havenwood # => can't modify literal regexp (SecurityError) ...check link for more (https://eval.in/388573)
<Ox0dea>
So weird.
<knite>
jfarmer: okay, skimmed your chatter earlier. I appreciate your position of not trying to confuse me. but I also appreciate that if RubyGems has a new command which basically replaces some of bundler's functionality, and will become the new defacto method, it's worth knowing given that I'm coming in with no preconceived notions.
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<knite>
so really, it's as simple as, old way: bundle, new way gem -i -g.
<jfarmer>
knite I don't know that it will become a new de facto thing, but it's worth knowing about in case you see mention of it.
<havenwood>
knite: jfarmer has good points. there's no perfect path. there's what's now and what's coming.
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<jfarmer>
knite But I can say that 95% of the projects you run with, the installation instructions will be like: "1. Clone this repository. 2. Run bundle install."
<havenwood>
^ that's totally true
<jfarmer>
Maybe 12 months from now that number will be 75% or 50%, who knows.
<knite>
and bundle == bundle install, presumably?
<havenwood>
knite: alias
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<knite>
not mentioned in bundle -h. :-P
<jfarmer>
knite I think technically bundle does something a little more clever...
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<jfarmer>
It remembers certain arguments you pass bundle install. I know for example if you do "bundle install --without-production"
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<jfarmer>
then subsequent calls to "bundle" will act as if you did --without-production
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<jfarmer>
"bundle install" is the "real" command, though
<havenwood>
jfarmer: what i don't like is it has it's own args and doesn't follow RubyGems so you have two sets to memorize
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<jfarmer>
:(
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<havenwood>
jfarmer: oh really? i thought it was a straight up alias?
<knite>
jfarmer: look at all these deps from installing just one tool: http://pastebin.com/B20xbpiD you seriously never have dependency conflicts in Rubyland?
<jfarmer>
So either that's the offending line or you're not including all the code that's being run.
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<_blizzy_>
I commented out everything else
<_blizzy_>
except the method get_team
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<havenwood>
knite: pip can't actually even upgrade all the installed packages. they've been ruminating on that since 2011: https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/59
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<havenwood>
knite: No dependency resolution.
<jfarmer>
_blizzy_ Don't know what to say, then. My strong suspicion is that you're omitting relevant context.
<knite>
havenwood: yup, which is why I use pipsi - https://github.com/mitsuhiko/pipsi . it's a relatively thin wrapper around pip which creates a separate virtualenv for each install. I use pip in my projects and pipsi for system tools.
<_blizzy_>
jfarmer, hmm, ok. I could gist the entire battle-parser file
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<_blizzy_>
even though only 1 method is being used from it
<jfarmer>
I've found the world of Python dependency management 100x more infuriating than the world of Ruby's dependency management.
<havenwood>
knite: I'm glad you mentioned it, that's the first I've heard.
<knite>
havenwood: yeah, I only learned about it a month or two ago. don't think it's been around all that long.
<havenwood>
knite: I don't python but still good to know!
<jfarmer>
_blizzy_ I'm not keen on reading through tons of code. Are you calling Battle#team= anywhere?
<knite>
jfarmer: what problems have you had?
<_blizzy_>
jfarmer, no.
<jfarmer>
_blizzy_ Must be gremlins.
<havenwood>
knite: RubyGems is quite nice though. :) Lots of languages have copied it for good reason.
<jfarmer>
_blizzy_ If everything you say is true and Line 31 isn't setting @team to [] then I see nothing in the code that would affect the @team instance variable
<jfarmer>
Are you sure you're dealing with the same Battle instances?
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<jfarmer>
knite Much more fragmented than Ruby-land, projects using and recommending their own tools, not much consistency in terms of how dependency installation and setup works
<_blizzy_>
jfarmer, yes.
<jfarmer>
Beyond "there's a file called setup.py and it does what needs to be done"
<jfarmer>
_blizzy_ Ok, then must be ghosts.
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<jfarmer>
_blizzy_ My personal bet is that you're "sure" when you shouldn't be, but could also be ghosts.
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<knite>
jfarmer: hm...I'll give you the two minute tour of Python's history, since you guys were so helpful.
<jfarmer>
haha
<jfarmer>
Well, I get the history
<jfarmer>
First there was setuptools then disttools then whatever-the-else-tools
<jfarmer>
that sort of thing
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<jfarmer>
Regardless of the historical reasons, I found it much more difficult to find reliable information on.
<knite>
yep. these days, you have <nothing> = rvm/rbenv, because Python versions change infrequently. virtualenv = bundler = project-level isolation. pip = gem = package installation.
<jfarmer>
Not saying there aren't reasons, just that the road was bumpier and I imagine all the more bumpier for someone just getting into Python. I have the benefit of being very comfortable with the language but less comfortable with production-level concerns like package and dependency management.
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<knite>
fair. things have been pretty good for the past several years, but they were definitely bumpier back in the day, just like Rubyland.
<Ox0dea>
I believe jfarmer intended to convey that things are still unpleasantly bumpy in Python.
<jfarmer>
Yeah. hah
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<Ox0dea>
knite: No sympathy for snakes here.
<jfarmer>
My cousin is a post-doc who works in social network analysis (an old field, but more popular now w/ the rise of digital networks)
<jfarmer>
So for her Christmas present I wrote her a script to scrape Reddit, which had data she needed for her paper.
<jfarmer>
Getting that packaged in a way that she and her non-technical assistants could use..
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<jfarmer>
knite Main thing I think is that the "current" documentation was hard to find.
<Ox0dea>
jfarmer: Did you end up using OCRA?
<havenwood>
jfarmer: nice
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<jfarmer>
Ox0dea I wrote it in Python because there was a Python Reddit-scraping library
<jfarmer>
Not OCRA
<jfarmer>
Didn't run into that, actually
<havenwood>
jfarmer: I read "an oil field" at first and was really confused.
<Ox0dea>
Aren't there several gems that wrap the reddit API?
<jfarmer>
Ox0dea None that did what we needed.
<jfarmer>
Reddit's API is also...lacking, to be polite.
<Ox0dea>
I just tack ".json"
<havenwood>
jfarmer: Scraping to fill in the deficit?
<Ox0dea>
onto the end of the URL I'm interested in.
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<Ox0dea>
That said, appending ".json" to most reddit URLs does what you'd expect it to, so grabbing data from there is quite easy without much scaffolding.
<_blizzy_>
I would use praw, but I don't have a reddit account
<_blizzy_>
plus I don't want any reddit bots
<Ox0dea>
_blizzy_: They're very expensive these days.
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<_blizzy_>
Ox0dea, lol. there are reasons why I don't have a reddit account
<Ox0dea>
?ot _blizzy_
<ruboto>
_blizzy_, this seems to be off-topic. Please move your discussion to #ruby-offtopic, to keep this channel free for Ruby related problems. Thanks!
<_blizzy_>
..
<_blizzy_>
ok.
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<_blizzy_>
but talking about reddit's api isn't off topic.
<_blizzy_>
:x
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<Ox0dea>
It was being discussed in context; you seemed like you were about to go on some personal tirade.
<_blizzy_>
I wasn't.
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* havenwood
is ranting in #ruby-offtopic
<jfarmer>
hahaha
<jfarmer>
_blizzy_ The key is knowing how to skirt the rules, my friend! :D
<jfarmer>
_blizzy_ Anyhow, re: your problem
<_blizzy_>
jfarmer, I FINALLY figured out the problem
<jfarmer>
Honestly — and you might not believe me — you are probably "certain" of something that isn't the case.
<jfarmer>
_blizzy_ What was it?
<_blizzy_>
I was calling a new instance of battle
<jfarmer>
:)
<_blizzy_>
when I thought I wasn't
<_blizzy_>
thanks, jfarmer :)
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<jfarmer>
_blizzy_ Take a second and consider — I was somehow able to deduce that you were certain about something you shouldn't have been certain of.
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<jfarmer>
Remember the feeling you had when tackling this problem and the next time you feel that ("I've tripled checked EVERYTHING and this just doesn't make sense! Ugh!!! I've spent hours on this."), realize it's a sign of you being sure of something that you shouldn't be sure of
<_blizzy_>
jfarmer, ok. :P
<jfarmer>
I'm not being patronizing.
<havenwood>
jfarmer: Aye, I remember this morning.
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<gambl0re>
im getting a "The page you were looking for doesn't exist. You may have mistyped the address or the page may have moved." error message
<gambl0re>
whats going on..
<jfarmer>
_blizzy_ I teach programmers for a living and the ability to (1) recognize the feeling of confusion and (2) use it to figure out what's really going on are incredibly valuable.
<havenwood>
gambl0re: There is no page where you're looking. It doesn't exist. You mistyped the URL. Or it may have moved.
<sphex>
jfarmer: quit man'splaining to him!
<jfarmer>
haha
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<jfarmer>
Yeah, so it goes.
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