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<mg^>
So I did
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<mg^>
It works, but sometimes it's crashy. Haven't figured out why but either the GC and I have a disagreement or I've got a leak are the likely candidates.
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<riceandbeans>
if I have a variable foo, that contains a number like 1.2.3, what's the cleanest way to just return a version with the .3 stripped off the end?
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<wolffles>
how do you read a number with 2 decimals
<zach2825>
jhass, i ran "rvm -v" and got "rvm 1.26.11 (latest) "
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<zach2825>
jhass, with "ruby -v" i get "ruby 2.0.0p643"
<zach2825>
and i ran "gem install bundle" and still no luck.
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<mg^>
dunno if that's really that clean or fast, but it works
<riceandbeans>
mg^: that'll do, that'll do, thank you
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<al2o3-cr>
>> 1.2.3"[0,3]
<ruby[bot]>
al2o3-cr: # => /tmp/execpad-b4541916141b/source-b4541916141b:2: unexpected fraction part after numeric literal ...check link for more (https://eval.in/519903)
<bnagy>
but if you don't need to switch you can also just install ruby
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<bnagy>
zach2825: as a heuristic, most of these problems come from your 'ruby' and/or 'gem' commands not invoking the binaries you expect them to invoke
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<zach2825>
right
<bnagy>
which is diagnosed with `which xxx`
<zach2825>
im looking at chruby right now
<shevy>
total chaos, total madness, different prefixes, different rubies!
<bnagy>
or fixed with just killing everything with fire
<zach2825>
lol
<shevy>
hehehe
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<Ox0dea>
$ alias rubydo='chruby | tr -d \* | xargs -I ver chruby-exec ver -- ruby -v'
<bnagy>
trouble is that all the switchers have different magics that infect rc files
<Ox0dea>
bnagy: Not chruby-exec?
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<bnagy>
well that's not really a switcher
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<zach2825>
no luck
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<shevy>
zach!!!
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<zach2825>
whats up
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<jimeh>
zach2825: are you trying to specify Ruby version via a Gemfile?
<zach2825>
im trying to force using 2.0.0 because thats the version i need
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<jimeh>
chruby or rbenv+ruby-install is your best bet...
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<havenwood>
zach2825: What switcher are you using?
<jimeh>
I've not tried chruby yet, but with rbenv and ruby-install you'd just do: rbenv install 2.0.0
<zach2825>
i removed the other versions of ruby and now im using symlinks..
<havenwood>
jimeh: that's be ruby-build
<havenwood>
jimeh: ruby-install can install for rbenv as well, but it's not "integrated" into rbenv
<havenwood>
those names are unfortunately close
<jimeh>
havenwood: indeed, I meant ruby-build >_<
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<jimeh>
zach2825: Bundler doesn't manage or switch Ruby versions, for that you need rbenv, chruby or rvm
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<zach2825>
sofar i've tried rvm somebody said that sucks so i tried chruby which looks like its for mac im on an ubuntu server..
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<zach2825>
in the beginning i tried rvm use 2.0.0 and when i tried bundle install it was still trying to use ruby 1.9.1
<jimeh>
in theory chruby should work anywhere that has bash is available...
<postmodern>
zach2825, chruby should still work on bash/zsh, but you probably don't need a ruby manager on the server
<jimeh>
Did you first install Ruby 2.0.0? If not that'd be why it couldn't use it...
<zach2825>
i apt-get install ruby and it installed 1.9.1. but i want to use ruby 2.0.0.
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<dnewkerk>
I’m a regex newbie and struggling to get this regex to match all of the lines of text, was wondering if anyone can give me a hint on how to fix it? http://rubular.com/r/kb0JQDOerh … originally found it on https://regex101.com/r/jV9oV2/3 where it does match in pcre format but not when bringing it to ruby
<dnewkerk>
bnagy: thanks that worked! Thank you too Ox0dea for having a look. Yeah I agree it’s not a good idea to take this route, just came across this snippet and was hoping to just use it to get an early version of my subtitles parser working and then refactor it better (but then got stumped when the regex didn’t work as expected)
<bnagy>
that regex makes me mad >:(
<zach2825>
thank you for your help. im done for the day.
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<bnagy>
-{2}> >:(
<dnewkerk>
lol
<bnagy>
[\s\S] >X(
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<Ox0dea>
It almost looks computer-generated?
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<jimeh>
Yeah, it's some seriously weird regex... lol
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<dnewkerk>
bnagy: as you’re definitely more knowledgable with regex than me, could you refer me to a trusted resource to learn best practices? So far I’m at the point where I can’t tell good from evil so to speak :P
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<bnagy>
not really. I am a huge regex bigot.
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<bnagy>
but -{2}> instead of just --> is just bizarre, same with [\s\S] - like.. say what you mean! SPACE OR NOT SPACE LOL
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<bnagy>
lookaheads are a good sign you've gone too far. It's like when you start writing functions in shellscripts
<jimeh>
dnewkerk: I didn't really simplify, more just change confusing stuff to less confusing stuff... lol
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<dnewkerk>
jimeh: it’s a start :)
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<dnewkerk>
jimeh: in the case of parsing a big block of text like this, would you take a different approach? perhaps like breaking it down into single lines and analyzing each with simpler conditions?
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<bnagy>
very yes
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<dnewkerk>
thanks I’ll give it a try
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<jimeh>
I would indeed :)
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<ramortegui>
Hi All, I'm wondering if there is a way to access to memory objects in a running application.
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<ramortegui>
I defined a singleton class in a sinatra app, and I can run racksh in order to get access to a console. But It seems like there is no access to the same namespace, because when I get an instance of an object.. it's new.
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<Radar>
?xy
<ruby[bot]>
it seems like you are asking for a specific solution to a problem, instead of asking about your problem. This often leads to bad solutions and increases frustration for you and those trying to help you. More: http://meta.stackexchange.com/a/66378
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<ramortegui>
I get it. I have a sinatra app that use a chat lib in order to create a chat. The chat app is a singleton, and always get the same instance for any petition to the sinatra app. I'd like to use a shell to access the chat object that is in execution. I use racksh, but I have like a new sinatra app, not the same that is working is in execution. Could I get access to the objects of my sinatra app by a console?
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<Ox0dea>
racksh does not give you access to a running instance of your application.
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<ramortegui>
ok 0Ox0dea, thanks! , and is there a way to do that?
<Ox0dea>
ramortegui: You want to attach racksh to an instance of your application that you didn't spawn with racksh?
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<ramortegui>
Yes, I want to get access to the instance of my application by racksh or irb.
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<Radar>
For what purpose?
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<ramortegui>
I'd like to manage the Objects by console for now, instead of creating a user interface to manage the objects.
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<ramortegui>
I will create the user interface.
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<Radar>
Sounds like you're trying to intentionally make things hard for yourself.
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<ramortegui>
lol. and for curiosity.
<Radar>
Yeah, I'm not into answering these sort of impossible questions.
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<ramortegui>
ok. Thanks Radar.
<Radar>
imo: build the damn interface now and stop faffing about
<ramortegui>
Yes, I'm doing right now. :)
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<havenwood>
ramortegui: One way to do something along those lines is to add pry-remote to your Gemfile then require it in your config.ru: https://github.com/Mon-Ouie/pry-remote
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<havenwood>
ramortegui: That kinda assumes that you're going to drop a `binding.remote_pry` in your code though. Yay DRb!
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<havenwood>
Rescue errors to a binding.remote_pry and page yourself to hop on the server and fix it with pry-remote.
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<ramortegui>
thanks havenwood I'll try.
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<EdwardIII>
hrm, when soap docs say <s:element name="RoomTypes" type="tns:ArrayOfString" minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="1"> what exactly do you think they mean heh?
<EdwardIII>
i don't think savon is doing what they expect
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<EdwardIII>
i hate xml
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<shevy>
EdwardIII I used to hate it too
<shevy>
then I abandoned it
<shevy>
then I no longer hated it :)
<EdwardIII>
heh now life is good
<EdwardIII>
for you, anyway
<shevy>
I think there are more! like how json became popular quite quickly
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<apeiros>
EdwardIII: it means the element is optional. occurs at least zero times, at max once.
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<EdwardIII>
apeiros: yeah but i can't get examples from the vendor, and savon doesn't complain if you put bogus elements in there. so if you're doing stuff wrong, based on the wsdl (e.g. you've misnamed a parameter or nested it incorrectly) you don't know
<EdwardIII>
which makes optional parameters trickier
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<apeiros>
EdwardIII: you mean savon doesn't run the xsd against the xml?
<EdwardIII>
i'm not too sure about what's happening under the hood tbh
<EdwardIII>
but it seems possible that it's not testing it against it if i can just put any param in there and get no errors, right?
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<apeiros>
I don't use savon for my stuff, I use custom built solutions and run nokogiri's xsd validator against input. and that will complain just fine about such things.
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<EdwardIII>
hmm
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<EdwardIII>
looks like it doesn't do xsd itself, but that i can add it myself easily enough before it sends the req
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<EdwardIII>
hrm i guess actually it's more likely because i'm just trying to read in a big fat wsdl as an xsd when it's not really
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<EdwardIII>
apeiros: i don't suppose you have an example of doing this, do you?
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<apeiros>
EdwardIII: nope, not on this computer anyway
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<EdwardIII>
apeiros: do you do something in ruby to extract the xsd from the wsdl?
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<apeiros>
hm, been a while since I touched those parts. I think I actually extracted it manually.
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<EdwardIII>
using a tool using soapui or something you mean?
<apeiros>
sublime :)
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<EdwardIII>
heh ok
<EdwardIII>
without ending up in namespace soup. you must be a master hacker!
<apeiros>
iirc it wasn't difficult and change was expected to happen very rarely.
<apeiros>
so doing it by hand was less time consuming than doing a "proper" solution.
<apeiros>
not sure if I ever wrote a tool to automate it, though :-/
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<EdwardIII>
well that sounds ace
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<EdwardIII>
trying to do it now. <wsdl:types> is basically the xsd afaik
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<dajobat>
Afternoon everyone.
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<lucasb>
Hey kids<333
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<frudo>
fluentd stopped or start automatic wt would cause the reason? i checked in log but not shows error for restart ot stopped
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<lucasb>
now that ruby is getting a Dir.empty? method, do you think it makes sense to have a File.empty? as an alias to File.zero? ?
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<EdwardIII>
hrm, nokogiri is saying: Element '{http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/}Envelope': No matching global declaration available for the validation root.
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<EdwardIII>
which kinda makes sense. i don't find any references to soap stuff in the wsdl's types at all
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<EdwardIII>
e.g. Envelope, Header etc
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<apeiros>
you probably have a declaration referencing the standard
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<EdwardIII>
apeiros: hrm so what do you think? it seems to be failing at the first hurdle
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<adaedra>
I suggest you ask smathy nicely and apologize or any other #RoR operator and see what can be done about your ban.
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<EdwardIII>
pm-me-babe type deal
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<steffkes>
hey there
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<steffkes>
probably i'm not seeing the right way to go since i've worked a bit with php and phpunit (test framework) is offering something they call "data provider". works like the following: you specific a separated method which returns a list of lists, where each record of the parent list is executed with the test where you've specified the data provider.
<steffkes>
my scenario is: i have a bunch of files (containing http requests) which i'd like to iterate over.
<hanmac>
steffkes: do you use rails? if yes: #rubyonrails might be better
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<steffkes>
hanmac: i do, but i'm not sure how rails specific the question is?
<apeiros>
doesn't seem to be a rails question to me either
<hanmac>
because you did talk about data provider and records
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<hanmac>
thats why i thought it might be rails related
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<steffkes>
well, that might be due to poor wording on my side :)
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<steffkes>
first of, i'm curious if the question on its own does even make sense for you guys?
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<steffkes>
i can share some code, i'm currently using (warning, kinda hacky) if that helps to understand what i'm trying to do.
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<apeiros>
steffkes: the question made sense to me. I had something you describe in my own testframework (discontinued), but since I didn't need something like that in minitest (which I use now) I don't know how I'd do it there.
<apeiros>
steffkes: but it would help for others to help if you told us which testframework you're using.
<ddv>
steffkes: dependency injection?
<steffkes>
ah sure apeiros, i'm using minitest - started with rspec, but switched to minitest during the project
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<EdwardIII>
curious
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<steffkes>
ddv: sounds always like a good thing, i'm not sure how it might help in my case?
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<ddv>
steffkes: what is your real question/problem?
<steffkes>
ddv: that i'd like to execute a specific test for a series of files i'm having.
<steffkes>
and what i'd like to avoid is having one test iterating over those files
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<steffkes>
might very well be, that the typical ruby approach looks different - i'm open for everything. that's just the way i'm supposed to given the test framework i've used in php
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<steffkes>
which had the advance, that it would tell me .. execution of test foo failed while using parameters x,y,z as context
<ddv>
steffkes: what are you testing?
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<steffkes>
i'm playing around with api testing. did a quick port of an existing solution i had. which iterates over a bunch of files (pairs of request/response) and issues the given request to verify if the response equals what i'm expecting
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<ddv>
steffkes: for api testing I usually create spec file for each endpoint
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<steffkes>
allows me to create a http request from the file .. issue that and compare it to the response. adding another test is just adding another file, in a format that most of the people are used to
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<steffkes>
a little bit like what VCR does for external api tests or rather mocks thereof
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<tubbo>
no
<tubbo>
everything is boring
<tubbo>
;)
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<tubbo>
actually i haven't beeen doing much "fun stuff" in ruby, mostly in JS these days...but ruby is my rock.
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<baweaver>
It's certainly a gem, isn't it?
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<tubbo>
baweaver: hiyooooooo
<baweaver>
'morning
<tubbo>
=D
<tubbo>
well like these days i've been making a website/API/central data store for my record label. i want to use that API to build each artist's electronic press kit with ember.js
<EdwardIII>
baweaver: my approach was 'sod it, just use angular and dump the .js files in the page' then build it from there
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<EdwardIII>
that's not very fresh and exciting though i suppose
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<baweaver>
EdwardIII: I find fresh and exciting is more likely to break in equally fresh and exciting ways
<EdwardIII>
i have a policy that i try to introduce 1 new tech per project, whether it's 1 big one or 1 little one
<Tomasso>
silly question: why when I reference another class from a class inside a module, that module name appends to that class I want to reference? so bothering...
<baweaver>
::TopLevel
<EdwardIII>
even if it means doing stuff in a crufty way at first (e.g. an angular app with 10 <script> tags on the page)
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<EdwardIII>
i need to reread the section on constants and module loading again
<baweaver>
I think it was an assumption made for Libraries
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<baweaver>
though what it probably means is it wasn't found elsewhere
<baweaver>
so it got there
<Tomasso>
for example I call MongoConnector.get_instance from a method inside class Service , and says uninitialized constant Service::MongoConnector.get_instance grgrgrggrrg
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<baweaver>
::MongoConnector.get_instance
<baweaver>
it'll probably error though. Make sure the gem is installed and required
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<EdwardIII>
baweaver: well... kinda the same thing applies in my philosophy e.g. if angular is the new tech, you can't also have a new module loader for example
<EdwardIII>
or if es6 + babelify is the new tech you have to use a framework you already know well
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<EdwardIII>
i remember when i first used knockout, for a couple of complex elements it was beautiful, but it didn't scale up for a more complex SPA for me at all
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<baweaver>
be back in a bit
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<linuxhiker>
I am honored that you guys adopted the draft postgresql CoC. That is awesome.
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<shevy>
hey... linuxhiker wrote "guys"
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<linuxhiker>
shevy: I the unisex version :P
<linuxhiker>
shevy: I meant (good lord I need more coffee) the unisex version
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<linuxhiker>
baweaver: Sorry, I wasn't trying to start a discussion. I just wanted to express my appreciation. We put a lot of work into something rational and easy to interpret.
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<baweaver>
fair fair, I just don't want a possible "discussion" on main channel to get heated
<baweaver>
as some are incapable of, shall we say, restraint
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<Juan26>
hi! im new here, im a ui/ux designer looking for learn some basic side server progamming skills, i was wondering if it is better to start with ruby or node.js or Django?
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<baweaver>
>> 'You should use ' + %w(ruby node python).sample
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<Juan26>
yea i know is js, python or ruby the question is in it?
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<baweaver>
clarify that a bit
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<Juan26>
sorry, my first quesstion was wrong, the question is what language is better to learn, python, ruby o js, i mean, the better one in terms of finding job and more "popular", more used in web app projects
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<baweaver>
they all are
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<Juan26>
they are all, yea, stupid question
<djellemah>
python will get you science jobs, ruby will make you smile, js will make you popular.
<baweaver>
better question is what do you want to work on?
<Juan26>
nice definition
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<Juan26>
yeah do you know some tut about making good questions?
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<chatzilla>
Looking for opinions. I'm looking to get into an entry-level dev gig, I know some Python. Why would Ruby be a better choice for a new developer?
<shevy>
because ruby is better
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<chatzilla>
I've been doing my research, is it true that Ruby only has 1 way to do string formatting?
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<chatzilla>
I'm highly annoyed that Python has 4 ways to format strings. %, .format, something else I haven't used, and a new one incoming soon. That's ridiculous. I searched Ruby docs and online, it appears Ruby only has %
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<apeiros>
String#% also exists as Kernel#sprintf and #format
<shevy>
there is more than one way in ruby
<apeiros>
so I guess python and ruby are equally bad in that regard
<apeiros>
(bad as per your measure)
<al2o3-cr>
and even printf
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<shevy>
for padding things, I prefer .ljust .center and .rjust these days
<chatzilla>
it's just more surface area you have to know when you get someone else's codebase
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<apeiros>
al2o3-cr: printf is printing, though
<chatzilla>
adds burden to the noobies for no(?) gain
<al2o3-cr>
well, true
<shevy>
chatzilla someone else's codebase is always awful :)
<apeiros>
chatzilla: I actually concur with aliases being generally a bad thing
<apeiros>
with the exception of aliasing methods which have a common name for specific use-cases. e.g. aliasing == and eql? if they do the same.
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<chatzilla>
is the Ruby community in general interested in Elixir? I see that as the main perk to diving into Ruby, an exceptional next-step is there if desired/needed
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<al2o3-cr>
apeiros: my bad didn't read that thouroughly enough
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<shevy>
chatzilla dunno, there were a few. I think Radar... sevenseacat... probably some more
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* al2o3-cr
needs to learn himself rust
<shevy>
you probably will hear crystal more often than elixir here though
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<chatzilla>
i've heard about crystal on HN. It looks interesting. Does anyone know if IBM's Ruby JIT is near?
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<shevy>
not sure, one guy here was working on it a some time ago
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<chatzilla>
is zed shaw hated or loved by the ruby community?
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<pushcx>
yes
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<chatzilla>
just curious, I was thinking about using LRTHW to get my feet wet
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<chatzilla>
tryruby.org has been pretty good. I honestly don't see many differences between Ruby and Python, very similar
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<shevy>
chatzilla that is because you don't know either
<chatzilla>
shevy: if you run down this list http://hyperpolyglot.org/scripting I can't find too many meaningful differences. But yes, I don't know either very well.
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<shevy>
yes that page is useless
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<shevy>
you'll see it with () versus no parens, explicit self versus implicit self, omitting return versus requiring it, mandatory indent or parse-does-not-care-about-indent in order to evaluate the code
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<shevy>
a big complaint that you can sometimes read on #ruby is that a constant is not contant :) that is when it can be changed, I think apeiros is still not a big fan (or perhaps of the name/term... constant would mean that it would not change, like Math::PI)
<chatzilla>
shevy: isn't that changing with Ruby 3.0? immutable strings (which is how Python does them)
<apeiros>
I'd prefer ruby to raise upon reassignment of a constant
<apeiros>
warnings are mostly useless.
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<shevy>
chatzilla no, I think immutable strings are separate from constant/no constant
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<shevy>
you can see in some projects how a "constant" string is frozen... like module Foo; BAR = "hello world".freeze ... rubocop had that somewhere in its code base or so, like 50 .freeze calls or something like that :P
<shevy>
chatzilla there are some things that python does probably better. I think one complaint is in regards to its import system, ruby has mostly just require and load, which works fine because it is super simple but does not allow for much advanced stuff/control
<shevy>
perhaps that will change with ruby 3.x!
<shevy>
god I hate python syntax ... def __init__(self,i):
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<Zarthus>
python oop is awful, yeah
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<Zarthus>
I hope they get rid of the whole `self' thing at least.
<EvilRoey>
Zarthus: ok hey
<EvilRoey>
so ou say it's awful
<EvilRoey>
I'm coming from the Python side
<EvilRoey>
what do you like about how Ruby does it?
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<Zarthus>
EvilRoey: This is nothing to compare with ruby (nor really an argument fit for this channel)
<EvilRoey>
ok
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<EvilRoey>
I mean I'm not arguing, I'm listening to see what I can gain from Ruby
<Zarthus>
I've written enough code in python and chose to do it in OOP, and writing it was not a pleasure. that's all
<EvilRoey>
ok
<EvilRoey>
*so* with that, what do you like about how Ruby does it?
<EvilRoey>
(again not arguing, just asking sincerely as I want to get into Ruby more, myself)
<Zarthus>
I mean, for one, ruby doesn't require you to pass self in every method, or has the complexity of import statements
<EvilRoey>
alright
<Zarthus>
I also don't remember but I don't think python has private/protected
<shevy>
EvilRoey you just have to scroll up for the last 2 hours or so :P
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<EvilRoey>
when you mean complexity of import statements, what do you mean? (like, how does Ruby do it?)
<EvilRoey>
shevy: aye ok :)"
<EvilRoey>
I've done PYthon since 1997 and am madly in love with it. Still I can always learn new languages without getting a complex about judging
<shevy>
we should probably come up with some import system for ruby 3.x too
<EvilRoey>
*can always stand to learn new languages
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<shevy>
1997!
<shevy>
that's almost 20 years
<EvilRoey>
yep
<EvilRoey>
addiction runs deep what can I say heh
<EvilRoey>
I mean I started with C when I was 10 back in 1990-ish, then C++ in 1993, then Python since 1997
<shevy>
I think I have been doing ruby since ... hmm ... perhaps 12 years I think... roughly
<EvilRoey>
wow
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<EvilRoey>
shevy: how old are you now?
<shevy>
I am old now
<shevy>
I started late too :)
<shevy>
chris2 started when he was like 6 years or something :P
<Zarthus>
EvilRoey: this part in particular "from core import module; self.ModuleHandler = module.ModuleHandler()" -- granted you can get rid of the module.* thing, it always felt a bit weird.
<shevy>
Zarthus the ugly self.!!!
<chris2>
i was 11
<shevy>
:)
<EvilRoey>
hrm
<EvilRoey>
Zarthus: ok, and how in Ruby?
<al2o3-cr>
Lua oop: Foo = { new = function(self, x) o = {}; o.x = x; self.__index = self; setmetatable(o, self); return o end }; f = Foo:new("foo"); print(f.x) :P
<chatzilla>
EvilRoey: I wish I'd found Py or Ruby in 1997. All I knew existed back then was qbasic, perl and vb.
<EvilRoey>
aye
<EvilRoey>
chatzilla: before that, I only knew a little TCL and Perl
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<EvilRoey>
that's what the scripting world look like to me as well
<chatzilla>
EvilRoey: I still regret not getting into RoR back in ~05 when it hit big. I had friends doing it. Just peeking in today. I'd love to be an old Ruby/RoR pro
<al2o3-cr>
oops thought this was #ruby-offtopic :(
<Zarthus>
I'm excited to program ruby in 2016, because it seems to have decent windows support now :P
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<Zarthus>
Yes, sir. I do like hurting myself. But I'm not suicidal.
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<EvilRoey>
Zarthus: ahhh ok
<Zarthus>
anyways, if anything, ruby has a lot of sugar that python doesn't
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<EvilRoey>
chatzilla: you can still do it, just practice
<Zarthus>
for being a scripting language, python still forces you to type quite a bit of redundant things
<EvilRoey>
ok
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<chatzilla>
Zarthus: years ago, the weak Windows support was one main reason I went with Python.. just wanted that possibility open
<Zarthus>
and while procedural is okay, classes really just... don't... work.
<chatzilla>
Zarthus: good to know that has improved, I tried researching on that recently in fact
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<shevy>
I never got into Tcl much, I found it to be quite weird. Perl was how I sorta started
<Zarthus>
I started with my IRC client (mIRC) and GTA:San Andreas multiplayer (PAWN)
<shevy>
hehe
<shevy>
so you were a gamer
<Zarthus>
moved on to PHP after that
<EvilRoey>
ah
<Zarthus>
My life was full of bad decisions.
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<shevy>
my life still is!
<Zarthus>
:D
<chatzilla>
I've been a hobbyist since my QBASIC days, avoided becoming a professional dev because everyone kept spooking me about India and outsourcing. I regret listening and going another way for my day job since this is my passion
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<Zarthus>
I'm pretty young in those regards, 2010 is when I seriously started.
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<Zarthus>
granted, I'm 20. and I'm just making you all feel old :(
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<chatzilla>
I'm 34, I'm sure I have plenty I could learn from you.. and instruction is welcome ! :D
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<al2o3-cr>
i'm 177 years young :P
<chatzilla>
shoot, I'd work for a 20 year old manager if I could find a willing, open and kind place to start my dev career path. I dont care.
<Zarthus>
I'm not a manager though. :P
* Zarthus
currently is commiting <strike>slavery</strike> internship at a local startup
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<chatzilla>
^ that is what I do not want. I've worked insane hours as a devops monkey. I'm over granting myself cancer + diabetes for some abusive employer for not enough money.
<shevy>
I wanna be 20 too!
<al2o3-cr>
shevy: you are 20 :P
<xpt>
"I'm not 50 I'm 18 with 32 years of experience"
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<al2o3-cr>
xpt: :)
<shevy>
hey that would still be possible
<shevy>
but they are looking for 25 years old folks with 50 years of experience! in rails!!!
<al2o3-cr>
i'm 10 in the head some days
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<slash_nick>
chatzilla: whoa, cancer?
<slash_nick>
explain?
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<slash_nick>
diabetes makes perfect sense :)
<apeiros>
xpt: hehe, love that
<slash_nick>
i'm worried there's some heightened cancer risk for developers
<tfitts>
I'm trying to use https://github.com/nehresma/cupsffi and I have cups installed on my system, but when I try to require it I get an error that says libcups not installed
<chatzilla>
slash_nick: coworker of mine is only 30 and came down with stage 4 colon cancer. i partially blame the stress of his 24/7 pager as an influence involved
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<slash_nick>
yikes... ok. i'll try and remember to take more deep breaths, stand up breaks, whatnot
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<Zarthus>
remember not to sit in your chair for 8 hours straight!
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<Zarthus>
a small walk to the coffee machine every hour is good for your health.
<chatzilla>
treadmill desk if you work at home like me
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<eam>
you can't get cancer from sitting
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<shevy>
tfitts you may have to install cups first?
<eam>
"if you have to ask about an operator, your colleagues probably won't understand it either"
<eam>
the way you decided to express it in english is probably optimal for human interpretation
<riceandbeans>
Ox0dea: is that the best way to do it?
<Ox0dea>
riceandbeans: That's the most intention-revealing way to do logical XOR if that's what you *actually* need to do.
<Ox0dea>
Better would probably be to restructure your thing so that it's not what you need to do. :P
<riceandbeans>
here's the idea
<riceandbeans>
I want to track if an env is set to do something
<riceandbeans>
like, prod, preprod, dev
<TomyLobo>
riceandbeans, try != as xor
<chris2>
my ruby has boolean ^...
<Ox0dea>
I keep forgetting that!
<TomyLobo>
if (foo == 1) != (bar == 2)
<Ox0dea>
Or just ^ as chris2 suggests.
<riceandbeans>
or well... let's say multiple prod envs
<riceandbeans>
like say prod1 and prod2
<TomyLobo>
well i assumed people are testing things before saying they dont work
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<riceandbeans>
so, if prod1 is set for certain action, and prod2 is, as a safety feature, don't do anything, don't let both operate concurrently on something
<chris2>
i dont ;)
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<riceandbeans>
only let prod2 do said action if prod1 is not set to and vice versa
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<riceandbeans>
prevent concurrent envs from any potential of concurrent downtime
<Ox0dea>
Sure, calls for XOR.
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<TomyLobo>
but if you have n prods, sum them up
<riceandbeans>
Ox0dea: so you'd be like, dev = 1 or dev = 0 and prod1 = 1 or prod1 = 0 and do if ( prod1 ^ prod2 ^ prod3 ) ?
<eam>
I said integers are positive zero always. IEEE Floats are signed
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<eam>
and can be both + or -
<eam>
s/both/either/
<al2o3-cr>
yeah my bad
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<eam>
I'm saying ints are either positive or "neither" depending on whether you're strict about the meaning of the sign bit
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<riceandbeans>
if I want to construct something like foo['bar']['boz'] = 1 and foo['bar']['biff'] = 2 and be able to return foo['bar'] showing baz and biff?
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<Ox0dea>
Use a Hash...?
<eam>
not just one hash!
<Ox0dea>
A Matryoshka Hash.
<eam>
yo dawg
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<Ox0dea>
Of whose alot of money are you coming into possession?
<al2o3-cr>
not dollars anyway :P
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<Ox0dea>
All alots of money are made of dollars.
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<al2o3-cr>
which ones?
<Ox0dea>
All of the alots of money.
<Ox0dea>
They share a phenotype.
<al2o3-cr>
have you got a few until i get my memory back :P
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<Ox0dea>
Your whole memory's gone? :/
<riceandbeans>
ok, new problem
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<al2o3-cr>
dta (don't trust anyone)
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<riceandbeans>
I want to check foo['bar']['baz']['biff'] for .ony? against all values in foo['bar']['baz'] but it's returning the count of hashes in foo['bar']['baz'] which is > 1
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<lucasb>
foo['bar']['baz'].values.only?(...) ?
<al2o3-cr>
not anymore anyway
<lucasb>
or .one? if ony? meant that
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<al2o3-cr>
riceandbeans: just dig it
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<riceandbeans>
lucasb: that totally worked
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