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<eam> perl6 -e'sub postfix:<:^)> { "$^a has the best operators" }; say "perl6".:^)'
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<Ox0dea> s/the best/all the/
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<eam> and those are just the stock ones
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<eam> perl6 -e'sub infix:<¯\(°_o)/¯> { ($^a, $^b).pick }; say "coke" ¯\(°_o)/¯ "pepsi"'
<eam> these are all well considered, reasonable language features
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<goglosh> eam looks like legit perl
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<goglosh> hmmm there should be a language with unicode operators
<baweaver> you mean swift?
<goglosh> something that makes your source code look like a screencap from dwarf fortress
<goglosh> swift does that?
<goglosh> gee
<baweaver> It has emoticon support too
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<goglosh> eam's was actually valid perl6
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<goglosh> wow
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<baweaver> surprising no one.
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<shevy> he is the last person on #ruby to still know perl
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<baweaver> I wouldn't put it past Ox0dea
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<eam> goglosh: that language would be perl6
<Ox0dea> But also Haskell.
<eam> any reasonable language, frankly
<Ox0dea> The inspiration behind Perl 6's adoption, if I'm not mistaken.
<Ox0dea> Being able to specify fixity and all that.
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<eam> Pugs
<Ox0dea> Right.
<goglosh> yeah I should get a job programming perl, I could be playing dwarffortress all day
<eljimmy> kinda offtopic, but for those of you that do contract/independent work, what hourly rate do you guys use? i guess location would matter too.
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<eam> is this where I point out that perl5's parser is 1/10 the size of ruby's?
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<eam> <3 ruby, even if <3 can't be an operator here
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<goglosh> can >implying be an operator?
<baweaver> >> class Fixnum;def ♥(o) self+o end; end; 4.♥ 5
<ruby[bot]> baweaver: # => 9 (https://eval.in/548194)
<baweaver> not sure how to define an operator perse
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<goglosh> >> "\n".to_sym
<ruby[bot]> goglosh: # => :"\n" (https://eval.in/548195)
<goglosh> symbols with quotation marks
<goglosh> as
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<goglosh> lemme find out how to dinamically define a function and make ruby look more like perl
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<baweaver> define_method
<Ox0dea> baweaver: Maybe some day: https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/8437
<goglosh> baweaver: thanks
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<goglosh> now how do i call it ;_;
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<baweaver> >> define_method(:foo) do 5 end; foo
<ruby[bot]> baweaver: # => 5 (https://eval.in/548196)
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<goglosh> yay
<goglosh> >> define_method(" ".to_sym) do p "hey" end; send " "
<ruby[bot]> goglosh: # => "hey" ...check link for more (https://eval.in/548198)
<goglosh> this is fun
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<Ox0dea> >> send define_method('') { send '' }
<ruby[bot]> Ox0dea: # => stack level too deep (SystemStackError) ...check link for more (https://eval.in/548199)
<Ox0dea> Well, shucks.
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<eam> >> mystery = methods.sample; send mystery, *Array.new(method(mystery).arity.abs) { ObjectSpace.each_object.to_a.sample }
<ruby[bot]> eam: # => class or module required (TypeError) ...check link for more (https://eval.in/548200)
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<eam> no matter your ruby skill you cannot predict what that will do
<Ox0dea> Gimme the seed.
<eam> oh man, that'd be fantastic
<Ox0dea> You can actually get hold of it pretty easily.
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<eam> it'd be hard to find a stable result across interpreters though
<Ox0dea> That it would.
<eam> but if you could, you could totally find seeds that did Bad Things
<eam> the bad seed, jokes write themselves
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<mojca> how can I install rails with nokogiri 1.6.8.rc3 (because building 1.6.7 fails for me)?
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<darix> mojca: what fails with 1.6.7?
<mojca> darix: it's probably irrelevant, but here's the ticket: https://github.com/sparklemotion/nokogiri/issues/1423
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<darix> that conftest lacks -liconv
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<darix> mojca: you could try something like export CFLAGS="-liconv" before gem install
<mojca> but is the latest version of rails incompatible with nokogiri 1.6.8.rc3?
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<darix> i dont know
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<mojca> that should probably be LDFLAGS anyway
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<darix> i know cflags is picked up. ldflags would be more correct true.
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<mojca> in case it is not incompatible, can I tell gem to use 1.6.8.rc3?
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<darix> in the gemfile
<mojca> and how should I edit the gemfile before installing rails?
<mojca> I'm a complete newbie
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<darix> mojca: try this: gem install -v 1.6.8.rc3 nokogiri ; gem install --conservative rails
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<mojca> darix: thank you, but no, --conservative doesn't help, it still tries to build 1.6.7.2
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<darix> hm
<darix> k
<darix> mojca: does the -liconv help?
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<mojca> darix: no
<darix> this all might be easier if you have libxml/libxslt installed in system instead of using the intree copy of them.
<mojca> I do, but I want to avoid linking against it at all costs because the next update of that library will break nokogiri
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<mojca> all I want to do is try building rails against the latest nokogiri, but I don't know how to do it
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<mojca> I tried gem unpack -v 5.0.0.beta3 rails, but I get just README.md
<darix> mojca: well for fun and giggles try this for a moment:
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<darix> export NOKOGIRI_USE_SYSTEM_LIBRARIES=1
<darix> and see if it works
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<mojca> I tried it in the past already and it did
<mojca> even though slightly differently
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<darix> gem install nokogiri -- --use-system-libraries
<darix> probably
<darix> anyway
<darix> imho that is the clean solution to your problem
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<mojca> the stupid think is that https://github.com/rails/rails/blob/v5.0.0.beta3/Gemfile lists gem 'nokogiri', '>= 1.6.7.1', so I fail to see why gem fails to be happy with the latest version of nokogiri
<mojca> the problem is that by using system libraries, rails will stop working at first occasion
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<mojca> for example when someone decides to upgrade libxml2 2.9.2 to 2.9.3
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<mojca> (even if that someone happens to be me at the end)
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<darix> mojca: because of ~> 1.6.0 in rails-dom-testing
<darix> which doesnt allow prereleases it seems
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<darix> mojca: if someone upgrades libxml2 to 2.9.3 what happens is: nokogiri will continue to work and "complain" that it was linked against 2.9.2 but running against 2.9.3
<darix> then you just reinstall nokogiri against 2.9.3 if you want to get rid of the warning
<darix> and all is good again
<darix> on the other hand you have the advantage if you fix the system libxml copy for a security update ... your nokogiri is also fixed.
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<mojca> but on the other hand if I accidentally uninstall libxml2, my rails installation will be broken
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<mojca> I don't know how to test the scenario though because even if I uninstall libxml2 and then do simple rails commands, nothing strange happens
<mojca> but talking about security updates in rails is a bit problematic anyway
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<mojca> we have an ancient app written with rails 2.3 or something; nobody is willing to invest time learning how to port it to the latest version; and we'll be stuck with that ancient rails "forever"; long after any security updates come in
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<havenwood> modin: They started statically linking nokogiri by default afaik but you can still dynamically link. There's an alternative (X|H)TML parser called Oga that doesn't have these issues at all. Neither helps you with a Rails 2.3 app.
<havenwood> modin: sorry, misstell
<havenwood> mojca: ^
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<mojca> havenwood: thank you; in realy I have no clue how/where/when to use nokogiri, it's just that one cannot install rails as long as nokogiri installation is broken; I hope that version 1.6.8 gets released soon
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<shevy> the joy of building a castle made of sand, on sand
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<havenwood> shevy: your sand is actually past end-of-life, it is deprecated sand
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<shevy> it definitely is not getting any better!
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<shevy> new way to write documentation :) https://github.com/araipiyo/egalite
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<goglosh> what's the difference between lambda and do?
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<goglosh> thx
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<shevy> goglosh lambda is more sophistic than a do/end block
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<shevy> like, you can easily .call on lambda
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<shevy> I don't even know if you can uncouple a do/end block and attach it onto another method ... hmmm
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<Ox0dea> >> def foo; yield + 25 end; def bar; foo &proc end; bar { 17 }
<ruby[bot]> Ox0dea: # => 42 (https://eval.in/548224)
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<Cohedrin> hey all
<Cohedrin> running into an odd issue where my thread is dying without any kind of error or anythign what so ever
<Cohedrin> I've got a thread in a loop, so it should go on forever
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<Cohedrin> but it seems to be stopping sometimes (I assume upon an exception)
<havenwood> Cohedrin: Set: Thread.abort_on_exception = true
<Cohedrin> havenwood, I saw that, but I've already wrapped the entire loop in a begin rescue
<Cohedrin> where I rescue exception
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<Cohedrin> so it shouldn't be bubbling up enough for that to catch it
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<havenwood> Cohedrin: Any errors with that ^ set up front?
<Cohedrin> with the rescue block?
<Cohedrin> or abort on exception?
<havenwood> the latter
<Cohedrin> I haven't set that as of yet
<Cohedrin> I've no idea where the exception comes from, I only know the app is crashing due to the thread executing stoppign
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<Cohedrin> like I said though, the rescue block should be stopping the exception before it gets to that point though
<Cohedrin> unless I'm misunderstanding something
<havenwood> Cohedrin: Try abort_on_exception and see what it reveals if anything?
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<Cohedrin> sounds like a plan
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<Cohedrin> Is there any other reason a thread would stop execution other than it encountered an unhandled expection?
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<Cohedrin> maybe garbage collection or something similar?
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<RickHull> Cohedrin: check Thread.abort_on_execution or similar
<Cohedrin> Already got that
<Cohedrin> doesn't seem to be the case
<Cohedrin> thread just stopping :(
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<RickHull> Cohedrin: oh, the other one is Thread.raise_on_exception
<RickHull> or similar
<RickHull> that's probably it
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<Cohedrin> RickHull, hmm, I'll look into it
<Cohedrin> thanks
<RickHull> abort_on_execution, heh -- that can't possibly be it xD
<RickHull> abort_on_failure or abort_on_exception maybe
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<RickHull> i think you need raise_on_exception
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<josephan> Hello! I am creating a poker simulator. I have a "Ranking" class that is responsible for determining the rank given an array of cards. My question is should I make the initialize method of that class return the "rank" attribute instead of the instance of the class?
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<RickHull> the initialize method doesn't have control over its return value
<RickHull> it will always return an instance of the class
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<RickHull> it wouldn't make much sense otherwise. you'd expect String.new to give you a String object
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<josephan> Ah right. Thanks that actually helps a lot. I know where to add the logic now.
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<al2o3-cr> What a grim morning :( (another a day, another dollar)
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<adaedra> Hello
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<cbliard> Hi there, I just had a ruby 2.3.0 segfault with "Stack consistency error (sp: 547, bp: 598)". What do sp and bp mean?
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<Ox0dea> cbliard: `sp` is the stack pointer, `bp` the base pointer, both in reference to the current control frame.
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<cbliard> Ox0dea: thanks
<Ox0dea> cbliard: Sure thing. If you're able to reliably reproduce the error, considering posting the details to https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/
<Ox0dea> *consider posting
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<cbliard> I'm trying, but it desperatly fails only on production :(
<cbliard> at random times
<Ox0dea> Yay, Heisenbugs.
<cbliard> yeah
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<cbliard> I'm suspecting it could be something like this one https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/10290
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<cbliard> which fails on some versions of ruby (including 2.3.0) but not others (including 2.2.3)
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<Ox0dea> You're rescuing SystemStackError?
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<cbliard> Yes, at last resort
<cbliard> that's bad?
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<cbliard> We are interpreting a custom dsl language which can call itself, and we rescue from SystemStackError, meaning there were some unhandled recursion errors somewhere
<Ox0dea> Probably handle those instead?
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<cbliard> Indeed, we limited the call depth to 100, but we still see segfaults
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<cbliard> Is it bad practice to rescue from SystemStackError?
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<Ox0dea> If your language is sufficiently simple, it wouldn't be egregiously difficult to check the call graph for cycles.
<apeiros> !fixon plonk
<apeiros> !fixcon plonk
<cbliard> You are probably right
<Ox0dea> At any rate, it's certainly a bug, but Nobu saying "I have no idea" is terrifying.
<cbliard> who is Nobu?
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<Ox0dea> The Patch Monster.
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<cbliard> ah! in the bug report
<cbliard> yep
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<cbliard> ok, nobu :)
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<Ox0dea> I'm seeing slightly interesting behavior on my machine. The snippet in #10290 sporadically segfaults for lambdas and dynamically defined methods. For `def foo; foo; end`, no segfaults, even if it was introduced with #eval.
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<cbliard> I'm really not familiar with low-level ruby. I observe the same: #10290 sporadically segfaults
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<cbliard> SystemStackError on 25-30% of the time. for i in `seq 1 100` ; do ruby test.rb 2>&1 ; done | grep -c SystemStackError
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<cbliard> Ox0dea: anyway, we will add a guard to prevent this from happening. Thank you for your help!
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<Ox0dea> cbliard: Sure thing.
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<dbugger> Hi fellas. I am experimenting with "class instance variables" and I was wondering, why does this not work? http://hastebin.com/uwuvumevaw.ruby
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<Ox0dea> dbugger: It does: https://eval.in/548363
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<dbugger> uh???
<dbugger> Ox0dea, I get nothing...
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<dbugger> What is this wizardry??
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<Ox0dea> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
<dbugger> ARGHHHHHHH
<dbugger> I forgot the "puts"
<Ox0dea> Thatcha did.
<dbugger> *HEADSLAMMING on table*
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<dbugger> Sorry for the stupidity
<Ox0dea> Forgiven. :P
<dbugger> is there a more direct way to do that? Kinda like "attr_accesort self:one"?
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<Ox0dea> dbugger: There's certainly nothing shorter.
<Ox0dea> `class << foo; ...; end` is shorthand for `foo.singleton_class.class_eval { ... }`.
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<Ox0dea> You could say `singleton_class.send :attr_accessor, :foo`, but that's not an improvement.
<dbugger> na, if there is not a pretty one-liner, Ill leave it like that :)
<dbugger> Thanks mate
<Ox0dea> No worries.
<dbugger> Im trying to grasp instance variable vs class variable vs class instance variable
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<Ox0dea> Class instance variables are just instance variables. :)
<Ox0dea> Classes are instances of the Class class.
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<dbugger> yeah, well, the same could be said of class variables
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<Ox0dea> How do you mean?
<Ox0dea> You can't stick class variables on something that's not a Class.
<dbugger> class variables seem to be the same as class instance variables... except they have more restrictions
<Ox0dea> There's really no such thing as a "class instance variable"; it's just an instance variable that belongs to a Class.
<dbugger> yeah, I get that
<Ox0dea> Any Object can have its own instance variables, and they belong to that instance and only that instance.
<dbugger> But again, class instance variables seem to be the same as class variables
<Ox0dea> They're not inherited, for starters.
<dbugger> Yeah, as I said, they are the same... just more restricted
<Ox0dea> I'm not sure I follow.
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<dbugger> and the notation is confusing as fuck, naming both with @
<Ox0dea> A local variable isn't just a "more restricted" form of global variable.
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<dbugger> I meant that between @class_instance_var and @@class_var, they are basically the same, except one is more restricted
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<jokke> hi
<jokke> i'm having trouble building ruby with ruby-install on arch-linux
<jokke> getting these errors: https://p.jreinert.com/ChxxO/
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<Ox0dea> jokke: You'll need to say `ruby-install -p https://github.com/ruby/ruby/commit/801e1f.diff ruby 2.3`.
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<Ox0dea> I suspect you'll want to swap the "2.3" bit.
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<jokke> yeah
<jokke> nice
<jokke> thanks!
<Ox0dea> Happy to help. :)
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<jokke> Ox0dea: mmh... https://p.jreinert.com/KNC0w/
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<Ox0dea> jokke: Ah, well, it's only choking on the ChangeLog (not sure why), but ruby-install's -p flag accepts a local patch just fine.
<jokke> ok, so what should i do?
<jokke> modify the patch?
<Ox0dea> Yeah, just nix those first 20 lines.
<jokke> hm no
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<jokke> it fails the second hunk too
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<jokke> hm
<jokke> weird
<Ox0dea> jokke: https://git.io/vVVNu
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<jokke> hm ok
<Ox0dea> I wonder what sorcery RVM does that it applies cleanly. :/
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<Ox0dea> That was *not* a recommendation to switch to RVM.
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<jokke> i know
<jokke> :)
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<Ox0dea> It's just that they're using the same patch (and presumably applying it to the same source).
<n1colas> Hello
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<jokke> also what annoys me: i can't define just 2.0.0 or 1.9.3 or whatever but always have to add the release to the version
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<jokke> it doesn't try to find a version that fits
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<Ox0dea> jokke: It does so for supported versions.
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<jokke> ok
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<jokke> so 1.9.3 clearly isn't supported anymore
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<Ox0dea> Nor 2.0.
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<jokke> yeah
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<jokke> but really weird that the patch won't work
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<Ox0dea> You're sure you need 2.0?
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<jokke> yeah unfortuntely
<jokke> *unfortunately
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<Ox0dea> Probably easiest to just ruby-install without the patch, let it configure, let it fail on SSL_v3, then go into the source directory, manually apply the patch (minus the ChangeLog diff), then `make install`.
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<Ox0dea> Can confirm that that works, at least.
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<Ox0dea> That'd be `patch -p1 < 801e1f.diff` from within src/ruby-2.0.0-p647/, in case you weren't sure.
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<hays_> What is the difference between a Monitor and Mutex?
<hays_> I am trying to use a Mutex but I am getting exceptions on recursive locking, so I think Monitors are the solution, but there are no docs
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<djellemah> hays_: I have a note in some of my code that Monitors are reentrant, but I have no idea where that was from. This might help http://ruby-doc.org/stdlib-2.3.0/libdoc/monitor/rdoc/MonitorMixin.html
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<Napear> I am trying to create a simple TCP client, but the client is hanging on the first TCPSocket.gets call (server is using TCPServer.puts to send the line)... any thoughts?
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<Napear> If I netcat into the server it works fine... and if I use the same client method to contact a webserver it works fine... but the two won't talk to each other without hanging
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<vuashhhh> hi guys! I'm having trouble with an application in rails.. I've posted in rails channel, but if someone here could help... https://gist.github.com/jonatasbaldin/906673980f847b30ec2cf6951dcb136e
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<djellemah> Napear: maybe flush on the server side, or a series of getc on the client side. That might help find where it's not working the way you expect it to.
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<snoobydoo> How do i pick last n elements from an array? Eg: [3,4] in [1,2,3,4]
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<SebastianThorn> snoobydoo: .last
<havenwood> snoobydoo: last(2)
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<snoobydoo> havenwood: Thanks :D
<rykou> hello
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<havenwood> rykou: hi
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<rykou> :)
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<rykou> I might have bit of a newbie question, but is there a good way to make a module that I can require from anywhere on my system without using require_relative?
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<havenwood> rykou: You can always add a shebang and put it in a dir in your PATH. A nice way is to build and install a gem.
<havenwood> rykou: Oh, right require anywhere. Yeah, a gem.
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<rykou> havenwood: okay, im going to check if I can get that working.
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<rykou> havenwood: Thank you, worked out how I wanted!
<havenwood> rykou: nice
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<rykou> Haven't done that much with ruby yet so still learning about cool stuff like that :)
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<ferr> @load.status == ('billed' || 'billed_pending') how would I make this comparison work in a single line
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<havenwood> ferr: %w[billed billed_pending].include? @load.status
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<ferr> havenwood: thanks, the same I was writing right now
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<djellemah> ferr: case @load.status when 'billed', 'billed_pending' then do_yer_stuff end
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<djellemah> ok, ok, so case is not normally a one-liner ;-p
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<ferr> separately it works, but with rails, not, lol
<ferr> If I remove the second part of &&, it works
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<ferr> I mean if I remove the &&
<djellemah> >> %w[billed, billed_pending]
<ruby[bot]> djellemah: # => ["billed,", "billed_pending"] (https://eval.in/548593)
<djellemah> >> %w[billed billed_pending]
<ruby[bot]> djellemah: # => ["billed", "billed_pending"] (https://eval.in/548595)
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<ferr> oh
<djellemah> ;-)
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<ferr> >> puts 'Hello world'
<ruby[bot]> ferr: # => Hello world ...check link for more (https://eval.in/548596)
<ferr> that's good
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<akahn> is Hash#key? faster than Hash#[]?
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<apeiros> probably not. but it's not the same anyway.
<apeiros> >> h = {a: false}; [h.has_key?(:a), h[:a]]
<ruby[bot]> apeiros: # => [true, false] (https://eval.in/548597)
<apeiros> akahn: ^
<akahn> right. I'm trying to decide whether it's worth checking if the key is in the hash first, in a case where most cases will be misses.
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<apeiros> if you don't have falsy values, or your code would become unclear, then it's usually not worth it
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<apeiros> and if you want a default value, you can skip it entirely and either use .fetch(key, default)/.fetch(key) { default } if your hash can contain falsy values, or `hash[key] || default` if it doesn't.
<akahn> yeah. thanks, apeiros
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<akahn> I will skip key? and just use []
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<apeiros> if you still feel insecure, you can always gist your code and ask for a review here ;-)
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<apeiros> s/insecure/unsure/
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<joaquins> Hi, this code '%10.9f' % Time.now.to_f always show me time in milisecond not in nanosec, why?
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<joaquins> like 1459950661.870000
<apeiros> it actually shows you time in seconds, not milliseconds
<apeiros> and "why" - because that's how Time#to_f is specified
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<joaquins> but if you specify '%10.9f' it must show u in nanosec
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<apeiros> no. why would it change the unit? that assertion makes no sense.
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<oddmunds> maybe because a nanosecond is 10^−9 seconds
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<joaquins> yeah
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<apeiros> yeah, but methods do not change their return value based on how the return value is used
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<apeiros> never.
<oddmunds> but that is not how the formatting works
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<joaquins> but I onlu get millisec and the rest are zeros
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<apeiros> ah. I see. poorly phrased question.
<apeiros> your issue is not the unit but the precision.
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<joaquins> yes
<apeiros> maybe your OS' time() does not produce a precise enough time.
<apeiros> windows?
<joaquins> linux ubuntu 14.04
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<apeiros> I have a Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS, and I get `"%10.9f" % Time.now.to_f` => "1459951087.750188351"
<apeiros> so… can't reproduce. seems like an issue with your box, not ruby.
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<apeiros> but given the poor phrasing - a) which version of ruby? b) how did you test?
<oddmunds> joaquins: what does $ date +%N give you?
<oddmunds> (on the command line)
<joaquins> i tested using Logstash
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<joaquins> I tried it and the OS can calculate Nanosec perfectly
<apeiros> ok, then what oddmunds asked, and additionally what's the output of `ruby -ve 'puts "%10.9f" % Time.now.to_f'` ?
<joaquins> 1459951245.604302883
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<joaquins> so ruby is not the problem? the problem is logstash?
<workmad3> joaquins: the OS producing nanoseconds in time output doesn't mean it calculates them perfectly :)
<workmad3> but that's beside the point here, I guess
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<apeiros> that'd be my conclusion from that output
<apeiros> but keep in mind what the docs you linked above says with regards to float & nsec.
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<apeiros> "IEEE 754 double is not accurate enough to represent nanoseconds from the Epoch"
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<mwlang> did ruby documention go all green and gray on me or am I hitting a site I haven’t hit before? docs.ruby-lang.org
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<mwlang> (never really paid attention since I just google “ruby hash class” etc.)
<joaquins> tried also Time.now.strftime("%9N") and don't work in Logstash ruby, but in the console works fine
<apeiros> mwlang: you probably wanted http://ruby-doc.org
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<mwlang> apeiros: ah-ha! yeah, that’s it. and a few more searches and it looks like it’s been displaced from #1 spot in searches
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<mwlang> nevermind me…it’s hit and miss — not all cases.
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<w0jtas> hello, how can i install package A which require package B with making sure that B is installed with some particular version ?
<joaquins> solution: %x(date +%Y%m%d%H%M%N).gsub('\n','')
<jhass> w0jtas: desired_package_manager its_install_command name_of_package_A
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<w0jtas> jhass, what's that ? :O
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<jhass> the answer to your question, keeping the same level of abstraction ;)
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<w0jtas> maybe i will put proper names :) i want to install inst-jobs , which try to install activesupport 5.0.0beta3 which complain that i need ruby2.2
<w0jtas> so i want inst-jobs but it should install activesupport 4.2.6 ( which met >3.2) version requirement and it won't complain about ruby 2.2
<jhass> tried installing activesupport 2.4.6 explicitly first?
<jhass> or use bundler and lock down the activesupport version
<jhass> or yet better update ruby ;)
<w0jtas> tried with activesupport first yeah
<w0jtas> but ok i have also rails which installs 5.0.0beta3 which might require still activesuport 5.0.0 and ruby 2.2 ;)
<w0jtas> will try rails 4.2.6 and again inst-jbos
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<Hoffman> Heya
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<Hoffman> I'm looking at OpenURI code that says, puts open('http://internet.uri').read[559,441]
<Hoffman> I am trying to figure out what those parameters to .read mean
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<Hoffman> the docs say it's open(mode, perm, etc..), and that mode and perm are the same as Kernel#open.
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<Hoffman> there doesnt appear to be documentation as to what mode and perm are for Kernel#open
<Hoffman> So how the heck can I figure out the definition of mode and perm
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<apeiros> Hoffman: they aren't parameters to read
<apeiros> read[x,y] is calling .[](x, y) on the result of read
<Hoffman> yeah, I see now they are array specs
<apeiros> um, no
<apeiros> read almost certainly returns a string
<Hoffman> I mean [x,y]
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<rahc> Kernel.require file
<shevy> >> x = 'abc def'; x[3,2]
<ruby[bot]> shevy: # => " d" (https://eval.in/548732)
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<adaedra> Hoffman: also, be careful that IO.read (class/static method) is different from IO#read (instance method)
<apeiros> Hoffman: as said, that's a method call
<apeiros> foo[x,y] is not the same as [x,y]
<rahc> apparently, that is not calling the function in rubygems/core_ext/kernel_require.rb
<apeiros> former is a method call, latter is an array literal
<Hoffman> so it isnt treating the string returned by read as a character array?
<apeiros> &ri String#[] Hoffman
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<Hoffman> got it
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<Hoffman> so suppose I did want to know what mode and perm were -- where would I find that
<Hoffman> nvm, I guess its just the same as a file read
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<rahc> I can't seem to find any definition of Kernel.require
<apeiros> &ri Kernel#require rahc
<shevy> VALUE rb_f_require(VALUE obj, VALUE fname)
<rahc> is it defined in a Ruby script?
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<shevy> C code
<Hoffman> actually, no
<adaedra> mh, this documentation code is all but useful.
<adaedra> s/code/link/
<Hoffman> OpenURI::OpenRead#open says that mode and perm are the same as defined here
<shevy> the docu also is lousy :(
<Hoffman> But that link doesnt define mode and perm
<Hoffman> :[
<apeiros> adaedra: oh, weird
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<apeiros> adaedra: shouldn't it prefer core docs?
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<adaedra> &ri File.open Hoffman
<adaedra> If you look closely, there's a link to IO.new
<Hoffman> adaedra: I see that, but the docs refer to http://ruby-doc.org/stdlib-2.1.2/libdoc/open-uri/rdoc/Kernel.html#method-i-open
<adaedra> which explains everything you need to know
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<Hoffman> adaedra: so how would I know to get to your link, from my link
<rahc> apeiros: there's something up with your bot; that page doesn't seem to document Kernel.require
<shevy> oh rubygems 2.6.3 is out
<adaedra> rahc: my apologizes for the bot; it's still being worked on and has some issues
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<shevy> it just needs some love
<adaedra> apeiros: i'm not sure it's a problem of preference to the core docs here — even if this is still not fixed currently.
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<Hoffman> adaedra: still not seeing the connection
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<adaedra> Hoffman: Kernel#open from openuri, which you found, overrides Kernel#open from core, which refers to IO.new for flags.
<adaedra> The link in the doc could be a bit better, I admit.
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<Hoffman> adaedra: I see. so looking at openuri's Kernel#open, is there an indicator that it overrides core's Kernel#open?
<adaedra> But `ri Kernel#open` should have resolved this.
<Hoffman> just trying to figure out how to RTFM properly
<shevy> hehe
<adaedra> Hoffman: mainly knowledge that Kernel is a core class, and the tiny info provided by "Otherwise, the original #open is called."
<Hoffman> adaedra: first part makes sense
<shevy> module!
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<adaedra> right, module
<Hoffman> as for the second, "the original #open" links to open-uri's Kernel#open
<Hoffman> :d
<adaedra> yeah, link is not right.
* Hoffman reads how to contribute to docs
<shevy> Hoffman do you know understand it :-)
<adaedra> But given how it's generated, I don't think it's easily fixable.
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<shevy> erm *now
<Hoffman> shevy: yes, thanks, and thanks to adaedra
<shevy> adaedra gets karma points!
* adaedra baps `derpy for not providing the most useful information
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<apeiros> &cookie
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<shevy> Hoffman btw ruby core teams reads https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/projects/ruby-trunk - if you really want to, you can file there, and perhaps prefix the title with [Doc] or [Documentation] or something like that
<Hoffman> thanks
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<adaedra> Hoffman: but my remark was not really on the link, more on the hint that this `open` is an override
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<VeryBewitching> o/
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<shevy> witchcraft time has begun again
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<crime> does anyone know how 'git commit' opens up $EDITOR with a temp file? I'd like to accomplish that with ruby, but I haven't had much luck with google-fu. I want to open a temp file in the user's preferred editor, and then receive that file as a File object in the program. any tips on where I should start reading?
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<crime> I really only need the contents of the file, after they are done, I guess
<haylon> export EDITOR=vim
<crime> right I know that
<Papierkorb> crime: Basically: system(ENV['EDITOR'], tempfile.path)
<crime> so it's actually writing a file, reading it, deleting it?
<Papierkorb> crime: 'tempfile' could be an instance of ::Tempfile, require 'tempfile' to use it (part of the ruby stdlib)
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<crime> oh, didn't even know that. that's handy
<VeryBewitching> shevy: It's always witchcraft time somewhere in the world. :D
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<Papierkorb> crime: Oh and of course check if $EDITOR is actually set beforehand. Else, you could fall back to a sensible default like 'vi' as last resort. vi is installed on every linux system I know of. That includes even OpenWrt (Routers).
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<crime> good call, that would
<Papierkorb> No idea if 'vi' is commonly distributed on other UNIXes though
<crime> would
<crime> would've got me yelled at
<crime> sorry, keyboard troubles apparently
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<shevy> the cat
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<apeiros> Papierkorb: I expected to read 'ed' as a sensible default ;-)
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<lxsameer> _ko1, ping
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<crime> perhaps I'm just an idiot
<crime> require 'tempfile' system(ENV['EDITOR'], Tempfile.new('your-text').path)
<crime> but that's not working, complains about system receiving nil for String
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<lianj> crime: editor env not set
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<crime> 'env editor' on my machine brings up nano
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<workmad3> how about `echo $EDITOR`
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<crime> I just confirmed that system('nano', blah blah) works
<workmad3> (seeing as env vars are case-sensitive and all)
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<crime> oh
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<crime> that was it, working now. sorry bout that
<workmad3> heh
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<crime> thanks :) yeah I was sitting there like 'env editor' works just fine, so weird
<crime> forgot to turn my brain on
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<workmad3> crime: also, `env editor` will run the command `editor` after setting up an environment, iirc... so not indicative of environment variables either :)
<workmad3> crime: so it sounds like you've symlinked editor to nano at some point too
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<shevy> it was the cat!!!
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<shevy> is tempfile in-memory btw or will there be a file created? I am asking e. g. like when the filesystem may be unavailable
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<citrusfizz> quick and dirty question, i have an if statement that looks like this next if mystring !~ /critical/ && mystring !~ /warning/ is there a way to combine that into one check?
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<citrusfizz> or is that the best way?
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<shevy> you could probably check for both in the regex, perhaps via the |
<shevy> I always assemble the regex on http://rubular.com/
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<citrusfizz> i'm trying to find the least costly way to break my main loop if either of those words don't exist in the string i was thinking of using regex, but i guess i'd have to benchmark a couple different ways.
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<shevy> regex will usually be slower compared to non-regex checks for strings
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<shevy> I would use .include? in this case probably, not sure why you want a regex for strings there
<lianj> citrusfizz: Regexp.union("foo", "bar")
<citrusfizz> would .include? use less cycles you think?
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<citrusfizz> thanks lianj
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<shevy> yeah
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<lianj> shevy: before proving it don't say that doing .include? in the same string twice is slower than a regex check
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<c355e3b> anyone aware of some english language docs on digging into ruby's vms?
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<chrisarcand> c355e3b: Like, how YARV works, etc?
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<c355e3b> yeah
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<c355e3b> well more focused on watching it at runtime
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<chrisarcand> I highly reccommend Pat Shaughnessy's book "Ruby Under a Microscope"
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<c355e3b> trying to read the c for the stuff, and its not verry clear yet
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<citrusfizz> i tested .include and regex match, include? was a little more than twice as fast
<citrusfizz> now i'm going to test with multiple words to see if regex wins
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<apeiros> citrusfizz: use =~, not match
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<citrusfizz> for simple comparison looks like .include? wins easily
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<citrusfizz> include took 1978.7119440000001 milliseconds
<citrusfizz> match took 4390.0242929999995 milliseconds
<citrusfizz> =~ took 4661.655326 milliseconds
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<apeiros> that sounds wrong. =~ should be faster than match.
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<citrusfizz> i pasted my code if you wanna check it, i probably screwed something up
<apeiros> try using benchmark/ips
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<apeiros> real time isn't what you should measure to begin with
<apeiros> but the difference is surprisingly large.
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<herberzt> quick Q. If i have a model called auctions and that has a has_may relationship is there a way to do something like auction.items.any.active? that will return true if active is true for any of auction.items?
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<herberzt> many relationship to item
<apeiros> ?rails herberzt
<ruby[bot]> herberzt: Please join #RubyOnRails for Rails questions. You need to be identified with NickServ, see /msg NickServ HELP
<herberzt> yes
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<citrusfizz> user system total real
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<citrusfizz> time for .include?
<citrusfizz> 1.840000 0.000000 1.840000 ( 1.829244)
<citrusfizz> time for match
<citrusfizz> 4.020000 0.220000 4.240000 ( 4.238741)
<citrusfizz> time for =~
<citrusfizz> 3.740000 0.770000 4.510000 ( 4.509846)
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<rob_> hi, can anyone tell me how i can access the methods in MyLogger in this example? https://gist.github.com/roobert/c9c4ec9e9e4d1e18b22dea9896543d83
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<rob_> i think im misunderstanding modules and the meta clas
<rob_> s
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<jhack> Anyone know how I can use react-native-fs to read a file I’ve taken, I’m testing it out on my android device but getting a “Error: File does not exist”, but if I try it on my emulator, it’d work
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<apeiros> jhack: wrong channel?
<jhack> MyLogger.logger ?
<jhack> yeah wrong chanel
<jhack> woopsie
<apeiros> rob_: you can't
<apeiros> rob_: you have to define those methods as instance methods
<apeiros> extend will add those as class method to Test
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<rob_> apeiros: can i adjust either class to make it work? sorry for being vague but do you know what i mean?
<apeiros> rob_: I already told you how to adjust it
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<rob_> so i have to move the methods into the Test module?
<apeiros> no. that's not what I said.
<apeiros> all you have to do is change them from class to instance methods.
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<rob_> if i do that i still get no such method error
<apeiros> update your gist then
<apeiros> you can edit gists instead of using new ones. that's better since it retains history.
<rob_> noted
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<apeiros> why did you change `info "hello"` to `MyLogger.info "hello"`?
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<apeiros> line 27
<Begi> you should add the .rb extension to your file
<Begi> Easier to read for us :)
<apeiros> oh yes, that definitively too
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<rob_> ah great, thanks for the tips
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<smathy> Let's work this syllogism: P1: You can edit an existing gist. P2: adding an extension will make it easier for others to read. C: ?
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<Papierkorb> >> "foobar".hash
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<baweaver> Papierkorb: make sure you're auth'd
<adaedra> ^
<Papierkorb> baweaver: must've been disconnected at some point
<Papierkorb> >> "foobar".hash
<ruby[bot]> Papierkorb: # => -763253210 (https://eval.in/548834)
<adaedra> Papierkorb: SASL.
<Papierkorb> Anyway, String#hash is apparently not meant to be stored
<adaedra> indeed.
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<apeiros> Object#hash is seeded on ruby's start
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<strongcode> how can I execute ruby directly from the command line? I forget the flag
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<havenwood> strongcode: -e
<havenwood> strongcode: see: ruby -h
<havenwood> or for more: man ruby
<strongcode> perfect, thank you!
<havenwood> you're welcome
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<eam> or perldoc perlrun for a more verbose rundown on option functions
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<strongcode> can you use double quotes in ruby -e commands?
<strongcode> or do the inner ones need to be escaped ?
<eam> you can use any characters you wish, other than the nul byte
<Papierkorb> strongcode: That's up to your shell.
<eam> but if you're running the command from a shell you will need to take care regarding your shell's quoting rules
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<strongcode> Will play around with it for a bit, thanks. One last question, can I pipe a file to ruby -e that will be accessed through ARGV array?
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<eam> arguments after the -e will be found in ARGV - no pipe involved
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<eam> ruby -e'puts ARGV.inspect' a b c
<strongcode> I see. Sorry, man page could have answeered that for me
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<Papierkorb> strongcode: you can also pipe a file into ruby and then process it. Examples: http://benoithamelin.tumblr.com/ruby1line
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<Papierkorb> strongcode: maybe this one's better https://robm.me.uk/ruby/2013/11/20/ruby-enp.html
<eam> -x is my favorite flag for that
<eam> say your buddy emails you and says "look at this cool ruby script" and then the next line is #!/usr/bin/ruby etc etc
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<eam> you can just pipe the entire email, headers and all, into ruby -x and it'll run it
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<strongcode> sweet, thank you for the links
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<Selby> hello
<Selby> can someone give me an excellent beginner programming idea
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<Selby> like an idea for a beginner program to make for a first big ruby project
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<Deathfacejackal> this is Selby
<Ox0ded> Deathfacejackal: How about a text adventure?
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<Deathfacejackal> good idea worked on one a while back but i got too into it until it got over my head and i lost control lol
<Ox0ded> Fresh eyes always see clearer.
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<shevy> lianj hey buddy - if I am interested in your opinion I'll let you know by a call
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<zenspider> what'd I miss??
<eam> little bit of ruby, whole lotta questions
<havenwood> little green "Verified" boxes on the Githubs
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<eam> oh and phones are computers now. And no one rides horses anymore
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<havenwood> Bug reported that seat is not moving up and down as expected like a horse. Please fix.
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<zenspider> eam: no horses?!? how will I get anywhere?
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<eam> uber
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<smathy> ...don't freak out, there's NOT a tiny orchestra stuffed in the front.
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