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<Radar>
?best
<ruby[bot]>
"better" and "best" depend entirely on your context. Try to describe what quality would make one thing better than the other.
* Radar
was scrolled way too far up'
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<rocksynth>
Hello. I've never used IRC before, although I have seen it mentioned for years. I am looking for an active Ruby community, but they seem to be quite rare.
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<Ox0dea>
rocksynth: To what end?
<rocksynth>
Not quite sure I understand the question.
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<agent_white>
Evenin
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<zacts>
evening
<zacts>
=)
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<p1k>
I have rails server taking up 1.5gb -- ideas for detecting memory leaks ?
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<bazz_>
is it possible in composition, for a class object to know the class it belongs to?
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<bazz_>
I currently use some modules that are included into a class, so I can refer to the class "natively" -- but I would like to convert them to classes, where I am then unsure how to reference the class
<bazz_>
I am interested in a straight answer rather than "why are you trying to do that?"
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<Ox0dea>
bazz_: Could you clarify your understanding of "natively" there?
<bazz_>
sure
<Ox0dea>
If I've not misread, it seems like you're just looking for the Class#superclass method.
<bazz_>
since the module is included into the class itself .. I can use "self.class" to refer to the class
<bazz_>
but in composition .. I will an instance variable inside the class .. from its methods I need to refer to the class .... I *might* get away with just passing the class to the composition's constructor ... but I am still curious about how my original question might be executed
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<Ox0dea>
bazz_: I still can't say I perfectly follow, but I'm willing to bet you want the #inherited hook.
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<amincd>
Hi, I'm trying to understand how forking, with the fork system call works. Why does the 'puts "after"' execute before the show_memory_usage("parent") in the "Memory Test" section?
<bazz_>
yeah that's inheritance, which is not what I'm looking for (hence the term "composition" I've been using) .. but it's OK because I'll succeed by just passing the owner to the composed object via initialize() ...
<bazz_>
Ox0dea, ^
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<bazz_>
Ox0dea, I'm going to create an example to make it clear :)
<Ox0dea>
bazz_: There's also the Module#included hook.
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<Ox0dea>
And #extended, but not #prepended.
<Ox0dea>
Which has always stricken me as something of an oversight.
<bazz_>
yeah I use those for modules tho, I'm using classes this time .. (I've stated that I am migrating from modules to classes)
<bazz_>
Oversight? I am thinking you don't understand OOP at this point ...
<bazz_>
you only extend classes, you don't prepend them (besides, prepend's associative term is append, not extend)
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<bazz_>
tehe
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<Hoyt_>
Hey all. I'm getting an ssl certificate error when trying to install the bundler gem from the command line. Googling has led me to download an additional SSL cert, but that didn't seem to do the trick. Any advice?
<amincd>
I can pay $2 for an explanation that I can understand
<ruby[bot]>
bazz_: pastebin.com loads slowly for most, has ads which are distracting and has terrible formatting.
<bazz_>
thanks ruby[bot] :) I've been meaning to try gist out
<amincd>
ruby[bot] is back!
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<amincd>
ok I got it:
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<amincd>
the parent block *is* being executed first, but it does not get to the line that outputs the result before the child block has outputted the "After..." text. This is a consequence of the child block being executed immediately after the parent block is executed, rather than waiting for the parent block to complete
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<kareeoleez>
baweaver: thank you for your suggestions yesterday
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<baweaver>
not a problem
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<kareeoleez>
baweaver: I accidentally lost connection but I've been reading all the suggestions
<kareeoleez>
baweaver: sorry
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<baweaver>
it happens
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<ctrutmann>
Hi, sorry to ask an obvious question, but I'm new to the chat and new to Ruby... Is this where the conversation happens?
<baweaver>
For chat about ruby, yes.
<baweaver>
ask away
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<ctrutmann>
Woah, fantastic!
<baweaver>
if it's not, we'll let you know where to go
<ctrutmann>
I don't actually have a question at the moment, I'm just here to join the community and start absorbing context.
<ctrutmann>
But thanks for helping to orient me. It's a different chat/forum format than I'm used to.
<baweaver>
have you found any tutorials, played with ruby at all?
<ctrutmann>
I'm in a bootcamp, working on classes and RSpec this week.
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<baweaver>
well if you find yourself in need of information, feel free to ask
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<baweaver>
you might also want to look into #RubyOnRails
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<baweaver>
as I have a feeling that'll be quite relevant given you're at a bootcamp, and I don't think they'd teach only Ruby there.
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<ctrutmann>
baweaver: Thanks! I will follow that chat as well!
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<ctrutmann>
One question, though the answer may simply be time/experience. Are there examples somewhere of "good" Ruby versus bad Ruby?
<ctrutmann>
I'll get my code to work, but have a hard time seeing how to make it better or DRY
<baweaver>
Look into the Ruby Style Guide for a first step
<baweaver>
a few books on "Good Ruby" would be Eloquent Ruby, Practical Object Oriented Development in Ruby, and Effective Ruby
<baweaver>
As far as Rails, Rails 4 in Action goes through most everything
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<ctrutmann>
Thank you! Googling them all now. Is there a most active time to check back in on this channel to observe other people's questions?
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<roelof>
I have this code : raise "Calculator is empty"
<roelof>
but rspec fails with this errror message : expected Exception with "calculator is empty", got #<RuntimeError: Calculator is empty> with backtrace:
<roelof>
What do I have to change to make this work ?
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<baweaver>
roelof can you gist both the RSPEC and the actual code?
<roelof>
of course I can , baweaver
<roelof>
moment
<baweaver>
it's probably that you have a lowercase C in one though
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<baweaver>
be back in a minute, food is done
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<Radar>
hi
<Radar>
ctrutmann: Rails 4 in Action is an amazing book I highly recommend it.
<Radar>
ctrutmann: I also wrote it so there's that.
<bazz_>
I have never heard any non-programmers speak of this key, and have only ever referred to it as "pipe" with programmers .. "vertical line" seems appropriate for non-programmers
<shevy>
I had to give a method a name that would insert those | into a string
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<kareeoleez>
how to throw an exception if a conditional is false ?
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<nofxxxx>
kareeoleez, raise 'Oh my!' unless foo
<kareeoleez>
nofxxxx: do I need a rescue after this ?
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<nofxxxx>
don't get what you mean. If you need to rescue don't trow an error...
<Diabolik>
is there an easy way to find my .rbenv folder? it's not at ~/.rbenv
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<manveru>
the hash.hash has a type of char[32] and i'm not entirely sure how to go from a ruby fixnum to an array of 8 bit fixnums...
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<manveru>
basically going from 72356286363236526331452798020295219825627762172601973501865183084394422723874 to 08p5gx18yrbnwc6xc0mxvsfaxzgy2y9i78xq7ds0qmdm67q39y4z
<apeiros>
to_s(32) doesn't work because the alphabet is messed: 0123456789abcdfghijklmnpqrsvwxyz
<apeiros>
lacks an "e" f.ex.
<manveru>
yeah, i tried doing my own base32 based on their alphabet too :|
<apeiros>
or you could use to_s(32) + tr
<apeiros>
probably the least amount of code and not necessarily slower than reimplementing base translation
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<apeiros>
hm, though… seems they still do something different
<manveru>
exactly
<manveru>
at the beginning it only looks like off by one... but later it's just different :(
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<apeiros>
hm, looking at that algorithm I'm not sure it's a base transformation
<apeiros>
at least if it is, it's unnecessarily complex o0
<apeiros>
I'd probably just 1:1 translate the algorithm to ruby
<manveru>
that's what i'm trying
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<manveru>
but it stores the hash in a char[32], so i'd have to first convert the fixnum to that
<apeiros>
hash.hash is a string like "72356286363236526331452798020295219825627762172601973501865183084394422723874"?
* apeiros
brb
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<dima_>
Hi. Can someone help me with ruby and tar.gz? Ruby can see 1 file of 3 in archive. When i delete this 1st file, ruby can see 2 and 3 files.
<dima_>
So, python, nodejs, golang can see all three files
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<dima_>
Sorry for my bad English
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<arahael>
dima_: post a small test case then. i am off to bed. if your english is bad, try speaking in testcases instead. ;)
<arahael>
dima_: or find another group in your native language.
<dima_>
i can send my code via gist for examples
<arahael>
dima_: that said, your english seems fine, but yeah, a code sample would be even clearer ss this is obviously a technical issue.
* arahael
gets to bed.
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* apeiros
back
<apeiros>
manveru: ok, took another look. I think I get it now. so you've got the binary representation of 72356286363236526331452798020295219825627762172601973501865183084394422723874 in that 32byte char array
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<manveru>
i think so, yeah
<apeiros>
you can go to that in ruby via sprintf + pack("B*")
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<apeiros>
>> [("%032b" % 72356286363236526331452798020295219825627762172601973501865183084394422723874)].pack("B*") # hope I got that correctly :)
<ruby[bot]>
apeiros: # => "\x9F\xF84\xF01\xB5U\ft;\xB8\xA3\x13\x93\x17\xFE\xFD\xAE\x9C\xDE\xBD\x02\xD6\r\xE3ve\x8FB\x7F\xE5\"" ...check link for more (https://eval.in/562830)
<Ox0dea>
apeiros: That needs to be 256.
<manveru>
oh, so using the string instead of an array
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<apeiros>
Ox0dea: oh dear, yes of course.
<apeiros>
manveru: you can always .unpack("C*") :)
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<manveru>
well, i did unpack C*, but that ended up in a way longer array
<apeiros>
I get 32 bytes? both in the string and consequently in the unpacked array?
<manveru>
either way, that with 256 seems to be exactly where i started from
<ruby[bot]>
manveru: # => "\x9F\xF84\xF01\xB5U\ft;\xB8\xA3\x13\x93\x17\xFE\xFD\xAE\x9C\xDE\xBD\x02\xD6\r\xE3ve\x8FB\x7F\xE5\"" ...check link for more (https://eval.in/562831)
<Ox0dea>
apeiros: That format specifier is for padding; it doesn't do truncation.
<apeiros>
it doesn't matter that it can't, because it doesn't have to
<Ox0dea>
"%032b" with a 256-bit number will give you 256 bits.
<apeiros>
yes, as you already correctly pointed out, it should have been "%0256b"
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<Ox0dea>
I'm trying to determine why you were confused about getting 32 bytes.
<apeiros>
o0
<apeiros>
I'm not confused. I made a mistake which didn't matter with the given data.
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<Ox0dea>
Oh, that was a response to manveru's bit about `unpack 'C*'`; disregard.
<manveru>
:)
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<apeiros>
glad that got cleared up :-p
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<apeiros>
the %0256 is of course there to ensure you get 256 bits even if the hash is a number which could be represented with less.
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<Ox0dea>
*fewer
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<Ox0dea>
(Still a Game of Thrones reference.)
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<manveru>
hmm
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<apeiros>
manveru: I get almost the correct result. I don't have a leading 08
<apeiros>
the rest seems to fit
<apeiros>
s/seems//
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<apeiros>
I copied the algorithm, and for 72356286363236526331452798020295219825627762172601973501865183084394422723874 as input I get "p5gx18yrbnwc6xc0mxvsfaxzgy2y9i78xq7ds0qmdm67q39y4z"
<apeiros>
which fits except for the leading "08"
<manveru>
interesting
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<apeiros>
and I think I know why the to_s(32) + tr didn't work
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<apeiros>
they reverse the order if I understand that correctly
<manveru>
yeah
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<apeiros>
or… maybe not
<apeiros>
not sure
<manveru>
i have more examples if you like
<apeiros>
I can also just hand you my code :)
<apeiros>
because I'd prefer to reread schlock mercenary instead ;-)
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<manveru>
damn
<manveru>
well, i'm fine with that too :P
<manveru>
will figure it out somehow, my brain just always shuts down when it comes to bit shifting
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<apeiros>
if I understand the code correctly, it plucks 5 bit slices from the end of the string, translates it and appends it to the result string (hence reversing the order in 5 bit chunks)
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<apeiros>
hm, actually that explanation might yield my mistake. len might be wrong. if you set it to the correct value, you'll get your leading "08" too.
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<apeiros>
len = 52
<apeiros>
shouldn't have done the `return (hashSize * 8 - 1) / 5 + 1;` from memory. I subtracted 1 before multiplying by 8 :D
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<apeiros>
if you want, I have a nicer algorithm which should do the same
<manveru>
oO
<manveru>
sure!
<apeiros>
gotta scrap that from my brains too. give me a minute.
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<apeiros>
we use it for our document and contact id's :)
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<apeiros>
hm, getting a different result :-/
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<manveru>
hmm, i'm pretty close now too
<manveru>
i get a8z5gx1qcrvnwq6ds0mxvsfsxzzy2f9ii8xq7ishamdm6kq3zylz
<manveru>
apeiros: i think the issue is that you can't overflow the char boundary in ruby
<apeiros>
therefore, you'll always call the method named "k"
<apeiros>
manveru: no, that's not the issue. you can't either in C, you'd get random data.
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<apeiros>
and they handle it with the `i >= hash.hashSize - 1 ? 0` part
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<apeiros>
the issue really is that they handle the overflow completely wrong.
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<apeiros>
unless I misunderstand something about the code…
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<apeiros>
but I'm pretty sure at this point that they fucked up
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<apeiros>
mr_oh: that part about 'k' is a string was at you
<mr_oh>
I saw that, fixed it
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<apeiros>
mr_oh: thanks for the feedback then…
<mr_oh>
Now i get undefined method 'black' for String:Class
<mr_oh>
I was trying different things when I heard your beep. (sorry)
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<apeiros>
manveru: keep me posted about what they have to say about it?
<dreinull>
I need to store options in my slim template files. They are not just views but used for document creation but served through a sinatra app nonetheless. I need to have the options in advance as they have to be catalogued and storing the information elsewhere makes it difficult to create new templates. Is there a safe way to extract these options? Like reading a file and parsing comments?
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<apeiros>
manveru: just that that's not what they do
<apeiros>
or what their code does
<apeiros>
but at least I figured their intent correctly :)
<manveru>
well, you can talk with them in #nixos ... i gave up on implementing this shit :P
<manveru>
i thought i could speed up my program by avoiding shelling out to the nix-hash executable and do the hashing myself
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<manveru>
but i'm not smart enough for this... C++ just makes my brain explode
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<apeiros>
manveru: I have no intention to. it's easy to prove it's wrong, though. get the first 5 bits from binary 72356286363236526331452798020295219825627762172601973501865183084394422723874 and compare it with the last character of the base32 hash ;-)
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<dima_>
Why it can see 1 file of 3? Sry for a long time
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<James123>
I have an 8-character string and I want to split it in two 4-character pieces, e.g. abcdefgh -> [abcd, efgh]. I can't figure how to do this with .split(). Any ideas?
<apeiros>
just use String#[]
<apeiros>
0,4 and 4,4 will do
<James123>
Thanks!
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<c_nick>
suppose my yml file passed me a string "ENV['name']" how can i decipher it ? as if i need to get the Env Variable from the same.
<ruby[bot]>
toretore: # => /tmp/execpad-b4adc826c93b/source-b4adc826c93b:2: warning: regular expression has ']' without escape: ...check link for more (https://eval.in/562853)
<ruby[bot]>
toretore: I don't know anything about irbnotrubybot
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<roelof>
How can I check if something between "1" and "9". I thought this would work : element.include? ( "1" .. "9") but no luck
<toretore>
other way around
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<roelof>
oke, you mean ("1" .. "9").include? element , toretore ?
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<toretore>
yes
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<roelof>
toretore: thanks
<roelof>
one step to go and I have solved a challenge of making a rpn calculator
<kareeoleez>
whatever I did I cannot catch "ArgumentError: wrong number of arguments" in a method, with def - rescue ArgumentError -end. What am I missing ?
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<Ox0dea>
kareeoleez: You'd have to rescue it at the call site.
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<toretore>
kareeoleez: code
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<Ox0dea>
kareeoleez: If you want to be able to catch bad calls, you'll have to define your method to take any number of arguments and proceed accordingly.
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<kareeoleez>
Ox0dea: the problem is when there is no argument
<mustmodify>
I've heard that you shouldn't give classes verb names ... presumably because actions aren't objects.
<mustmodify>
is that a widely-held best-practice?
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<toretore>
mustmodify: can you come up with a case where you'd use a verb for a class name?
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<mustmodify>
I have data, and I have rubrics. Rubrics have a collection of data ranges. And I take a datum and a rubric and produce a grade. So I was thinking of calling that class Grader.
<shevy>
mustmodify do you mean solo words? or in conjunction?
<mustmodify>
it's sort of a verb.
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<shevy>
e. g. class Get versus class GetPackage
<mustmodify>
I mean, it's a verb object.
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<mustmodify>
I guess Grade would be the verb.
<toretore>
grader is not a verb though
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<mustmodify>
ok nevermind then. :)
<toretore>
you can tell a grader to grade
<toretore>
that's perfectly reasonable
<mustmodify>
though now that I'm thinking about it, maybe the Rubric should do that.
<mustmodify>
Rubric is a new abstraction for us (whereas Grader is not.) So that might make more sense.
<toretore>
i like the idea of a separate grader class
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<toretore>
grading is then decoupled from the representation
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<mustmodify>
yep, that's true.
<mustmodify>
I like decoupling, but to be fair... they really can't exist sepearately. I can't imagine a scenario where we could use some other thing to grade datum... or anything else that would need grading.
<mustmodify>
I'll leave it separated for now.
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<baweaver>
You grade an assignment
<baweaver>
turning it into a noun doesn't change that
<baweaver>
it's an action of the assignment
<mustmodify>
baweaver: true. I meant in our domain.
<mustmodify>
certainly there are a lot of other things that could be graded.
<baweaver>
Too many nouns and you turn into Java :P
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<mustmodify>
AHHHHHHHHH
<toretore>
i still think an assignment and the "grader" should be though of as separate things
<toretore>
ruby could use some more java tbh ;)
<mustmodify>
In that context, definitely.
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<baweaver>
Then you end up with things like AbstractSingletonProxyFactoryBean after a fashion
<toretore>
especially modeling processes independently of data
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<baweaver>
GoF is made incredibly irrelevant by the addition of functional concepts
<mustmodify>
I once gave a presentation in front of some .net devs and I had all kind of crazy class names like BusinessLayer::AbstractMetaDeviceWrapperWrapper ... I didn't get the impression they knew I was poking fun at them.
<dima_>
hi. can some one help me with ruby and tar.gz archives?
<dima_>
i know it. But it snippet did not work for me
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<baweaver>
you're trying to open a stream instead of a file
<baweaver>
need to find how to either open a stream or save it as a file first.
<baweaver>
give me a sec to find that
<toretore>
it's a Tempfile
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<dima_>
can you download this archive and watch its content(3 files)
<dima_>
when i delete 1st file i can see 2 files
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<toretore>
i tried the code with a regular File too, same thing
<dima_>
when i do nothing i can see 1st file only
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<toretore>
so probably: 1) the archive is borked, or 2) TarReader doesn't work properly
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<dima_>
2. Cuz python, nodejs, bash works fine
<dima_>
variants*
<dima_>
I rly need this functional.
<toretore>
dima_: which is why i suggest to just shell out to tar
<baweaver>
tar -zxvf and wget for shell
<dima_>
shell code looks like shit.
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<baweaver>
works vs looks like crap
<dima_>
ye)
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<baweaver>
Use shell first, then figure out why that won't work
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<baweaver>
I've never used it before, I just use shell for that, so I don't know immediately
<dima_>
But can i force someone in RubyTeam for fix it?
<baweaver>
I doubt it's broken, we just don't know how to use it
<dima_>
Ruby can't work with tar.gz in 2016. Sounds like a charm.
<baweaver>
ease back on the rudeness there
<toretore>
they probably don't care. it's not meant to be a general purpose tar reader
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<baweaver>
it probably can
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<dima_>
its just terrible.
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<baweaver>
again, easy on the rudeness
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<mustmodify>
dima_: I don't think it's terrible. Why would a language want to do something that an OS can do better/faster?
<Ox0dea>
mustmodify: Huh?
<baweaver>
mustmodify not the point
<dima_>
Someone knows a native bindings for tar archives?
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<mustmodify>
oh
<mustmodify>
ok then
<Ox0dea>
dima_: There's a libarchive wrapper.
<baweaver>
It probably can, I just don't know how because I never use it
<dima_>
python can it. Ruby cant it. I am not troll, but ruby(high level language) can not open tar.gz. Its rly bad.
<Flashynuff>
Alright, new to ruby, not new to programming. I'm trying to reimplement a method to compute pi that a professor had me do for a previous class in python. Everything looks more or less correct, but my results are way way off in ruby, and I don't know what I'm doing wrong. python: http://pastebin.com/GCcSbp7q ruby: http://pastebin.com/JNWEF47n
<baweaver>
you missed it more than once and continued to be rude towards the language in the process, this is not acceptable behavior and will not be tolerated again
<smathy>
Flashynuff, mostly the message from the bot about not using pastbin.
<dima_>
Sorry.
<baweaver>
Now note I have no problem with the question, I just really don't have an answer to it, I'd have to research it
<Ox0dea>
Flashynuff: You accidentally started `result` at 1 in the Ruby version.
<Flashynuff>
I am an idiot
<shevy>
aha!
<baweaver>
Flashynuff it happens, don't take it too badly
<Flashynuff>
Thank you, fresh set of eyes always helps!
<mustmodify>
General question: If you say something like "I'm not a troll" ... isn't that sort of indicative of needing to re-examine whether you're a troll?
<baweaver>
mustmodify drop it
<Ox0dea>
Let it die of starvation.
<mustmodify>
k
<baweaver>
let channel staff address issues, there's no need to chime in and repeat their assessments
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<KCmetro__>
I need to write a script to automate resolutions to previously known and recurring issues after alarms go off in zabbix. Can I use Ruby for that purpose or would another language be better?
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<baweaver>
KCmetro__ : any turing complete language should work
<baweaver>
which includes ruby
<baweaver>
probably an older version of ruby then
<baweaver>
smathy you're on 2.3 right?
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<KCmetro__>
Thank you!
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<KCmetro__>
oh wait... do I need an old ruby version to automate things w/ zabbix or is the most recent version of ruby okay?
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<baweaver>
KCmetro__ sorry, that was about another user
<KCmetro__>
ok cool :)
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<dima_>
i fix my problem by libarchive gem. Its works perfectly, but api didnot ruby-like.
<Ox0dea>
This is what you asked for.
<smathy>
baweaver, yes, although sorry - I didn't realize there were two other files.
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<KCmetro>
...not sure if ruby's across the network... might have to use bash with the linux side of things... although there are also windows machines, I guess powershell for that.
<KCmetro>
(re: automating things in response to zabbix alarms)
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<shevy>
dima_ yeah that can often be the case, depending on how big a project is and how many maintainers there are; sometimes it's just a 1:1 mapping usually. For instance, C GTK "GtkWidget *gtk_toggle_button_new()" would become something like Gtk::ToggleButton.new() which is more or less a 1:1 mapping
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<shevy>
I once wondered whether it would be possible to write an abstract GUI, where one could write for that abstract GUI, and have it translated into gtk or qt or wxwidgets
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<adaedra>
gtk, qt and wxwidgets are already abstractions
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<zacts>
buffer #perl
<zacts>
sorry
<zacts>
typo
<zacts>
weechat
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<CausaMortis>
hi guys, im completely new to ruby and I am trying to set up a provisioning script for vagrant. what I find confusing is how (most of the posts I find online) never talk about a webserver like nginx or nginx-passenger. is it over kill wanting to install that?
<CausaMortis>
how does vagrant that it has to start the webserver that comes with rails?
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<CausaMortis>
+know
<smathy>
You'd just do it manually probably.
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<CausaMortis>
good call :')
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<smathy>
CausaMortis, btw, I also don't think there's anything over the top with using nginx/passenger/whatever in dev if you want to.
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<gizmore|2>
Is anyone using emacs or vi with a visual debugger (rmi?) which editor+plugin to ollydbg like?
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<chrisseaton>
If I have a module that has methods on its singleton class, and I want another module to also have those methods in its singleton class, what is the right way to do that? Just include within the module doesn't seem to do it.
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<apeiros>
chrisseaton: you can't
<apeiros>
the right way to do it is to define those methods as module_function and then extend the other module. though IMO it's rather pointless to do that.
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<chrisseaton>
apeiros: Thanks. I see loads of modules with all the methods as being def self.foo - should they always be module_function instead?
<apeiros>
depends
<apeiros>
any method in a module which makes no use of an ivar or self should be
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<apeiros>
i.e. pseudo-functions
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<awer>
Hi, I'm just starting out with ruby and im trying to create a script that will read from a file filled with useragents. I want to read each line of the useragent and place them into a curl command. i have a webpage as part of a challenge that will only work with one specific useragent and plan is to sole this with curl and ruby. can anyone suggest why my current script is failing? https://paste.ee/p/1Kqua
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<awer>
this would be part one. i would then want the output to only out when the repsonse is not = to "wrong user agent" as the output as well as the useragent that were sucessfull
<apeiros>
awer: variables starting with an uppercase letter are constants
<apeiros>
awer: also line 3/4 - you're throwing away all lines except the last
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<awer>
apeiros: so the 'H' should be a 'h' ?
<apeiros>
and given that f1 is your filehandle (and not the line), it makes little sense to interpolate it into the command in line 5
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<apeiros>
awer: it should be a name which makes sense. but while h doesn't make sense, it's at least a local variable.
<apeiros>
so: yes (partially)
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<awer>
apeiros: ok thanks. im leanring retty much from scratch
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<awer>
apeiros: could you give me an example of something that would work so i can play with it a little pleasE?
<apeiros>
you forgot that H -> h thing, and you've got a messy indent. otherwise: yes
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<baweaver>
apeiros apparently forgot is a user
<apeiros>
¿que?
<baweaver>
./whois forgot
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<apeiros>
not my fault if people pick sucky nicknames which get highlighted out of context
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<awer>
apeiros: thanks for your help
<apeiros>
would "when" instead of "if" be more appropriate here?
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<Ox0dea>
apeiros: Not by my lights.
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<marahin>
Hello. I have a module defined in a file, then I include that file in other file that defines a class. How can I access the module inside that class?
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<marahin>
Particulary I have a MultithreadedEach module that allows arrays to be iterated using many threads
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<marahin>
and a class that has an attribute which is an array, and I want to .extend(MultithreadedEach) that array.