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<klka>
I installed ruby using rbenv, it is possible to copy the files ~/rbenv to similar linux and run ruby there?
<eam>
quite likely, but not necessarily
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<klka>
and add it to PATH env?
<klka>
what do you mean eam
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<eam>
copying compiled binaries between linux systems tends to work for similar architectures and linux versions, but doesn't always
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<eam>
it's surprisingly easy to encounter architecture conflicts, even within x86
<eam>
or of course, differing library dependencies
<eam>
depends on the two systems and how you compiled your rubies
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<goglosh>
I have a question
<klka>
thanks eam
<goglosh>
is irb written in ruby'
<goglosh>
?
<eam>
goglosh: yes
<goglosh>
thanks
<eam>
it's very easy to make your own irb!
<goglosh>
:) you got me there
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<eam>
goglosh: ruby -pe1
<eam>
there's no prompt, but type in something like 1 + 1
<eam>
er oops
<goglosh>
ooh I get it
<eam>
I mean ruby -pe'$_=eval $_'
<eam>
:)
<goglosh>
well kind of
<goglosh>
ok
<eam>
-pe1 is just cat
* goglosh
was wondering what the 1 stood for
<goglosh>
anyway, I got the source to ruby but
<goglosh>
it doesn't seem to come with that of irb or
<goglosh>
anything else really
<eam>
-e1 is just a way to give ruby a short program that does nothing
<goglosh>
oh
<eam>
say, if you only want the effect of the other fancy args like -p
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<eam>
goglosh: check lib/irb
<eam>
and bin/irb for the stub that executes it
<goglosh>
thanks!
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<goglosh>
it's kind of hard to see that with all the *.c files right there at the root dir
<goglosh>
several files!
<Ox0ded>
goglosh: `ls --group` is good.
<goglosh>
didn't know about that switch
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<goglosh>
this shall keep me busy for a while
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<goglosh>
thanks people
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<goglosh>
oh of course .irbrc is a thing
<goglosh>
I should've known
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<josephan>
I have "lib/poker.rb" that loads another file using located in "lib/poker/round.rb". I am using "require_relative 'poker/round'" to load the second file but I am still getting Uninitialized Constant Error. Is it easy to identify what I did wrong?
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<shevy>
josephan if the constant is in that second file, then this means that the file was not loaded
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<Ox0ded>
josephan: It must be that "poker/round.rb" is using some constant defined in "poker.rb"; you're loading it before the constant exists.
<Ox0ded>
You can either separate everything out into "lib/poker/" and just have "poker.rb" require everything in there, or sin a little and have some requires at the bottom of "poker.rb".
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<goglosh>
Ox0ded: you once showed me away to see the compiled instructions of ruby code
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<goglosh>
what was the module or whatever it was again?
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<Ox0ded>
goglosh: I'm sure I did. Sorry about that. :P
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<goglosh>
thanks!
<Ox0ded>
Sure thing. `RubyVM::InstructionSequence.new('17 + 25').to_a` is less noisy if the code you want to check is a String.
<Ox0ded>
The format and instruction names have changed slightly between versions, so mind those dragons.
<goglosh>
okay
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<goglosh>
and say, isthere a way to give single instructions?
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<goglosh>
nvm let me first understand how this works
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<Ox0ded>
goglosh: I recently used it to show somebody how to pull the outermost method call out of a block: https://eval.in/541123
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<Ox0ded>
That'd break on versions prior to 2.2, though, where that instruction was instead called `opt_send_simple`.
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<goglosh>
that's hard to read
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<goglosh>
:P
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<Ox0ded>
Thanks.
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<goglosh>
burakku majiku
<goglosh>
I'll stick to the easy stuff for now :`
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<Ox0ded>
Fair enough. That aspect of Ruby isn't really meant for human consumption.
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<josephan>
Ox0ded: Thank you! You were absolutely correct.
<Ox0ded>
josephan: Happy to help. :)
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<goglosh>
why do we have access to it then?
<Ox0ded>
Why not?
<goglosh>
or is it for the AI overlords'
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<Ox0ded>
I mean, it's used internally for keeping everything nice and modular. It just so happens that it's exported to userland for the weirdos that want to play with it.
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<goglosh>
are you
<goglosh>
calling me a weirdo?
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<goglosh>
gee
<Ox0ded>
You just said it wasn't your bag?
<goglosh>
I said I'll stick to the human stuff FOR NOW :)
<goglosh>
is it weird to want to write in raw ruby bytecode?
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<goglosh>
:P
<shevy>
depends on what you want to do
<shevy>
what do you want to do with these instructions?
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<goglosh>
a debuggger
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<goglosh>
(but as I said I'm not ready yet)
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<shevy>
well that would fit then I suppose
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<fschuindt>
Hello folks, any tip on how to build a monitor for a certain screen position (looking for changes). Like a sensor that will fire off when determined area in the screen changes.
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<ag4ve>
i'm not sure what ruby doesn't like with these groups - it seems to be having issues with '-' and ',' in them http://sprunge.us/BYeP
<ag4ve>
but idk how to fix it
<ag4ve>
also it doesn't seem to like my use of \( which is weird
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<ag4ve>
(i'm coming from the perl world - trying to create a chef ohai plugin - so it's probable i've got other issues the lexer hasn't gotten to but the regex stuff is stumping me)
<Ox0ded>
The '/' in "user/group" on Line 41 isn't being interpreted as part of the comment.
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<ag4ve>
seriously?
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<Ox0ded>
Well, removing it does away with all the syntax errors.
<ag4ve>
ha, well, ok i guess that'x my fix then - y'all got a bugs ml?
<ag4ve>
or if you want to handle it since i don't really know ruby...
<Ox0ded>
I'm trying to see whether it's documented behavior, but that seems unlikely.
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<ag4ve>
my first ruby script and i trip over it :)
<Ox0ded>
Leave it to a Perler. :P
<adaedra>
Hello
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* adaedra
resuscitates Ox0ded
<Ox0ded>
Morning, adaedra.
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<Ox0dea>
And thank you kindly.
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<adaedra>
My pleasure.
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<Ox0dea>
I'd been dead ever since somebody mistyped my call sign as "Delta Echo Delta".
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<ag4ve>
heh
<ag4ve>
btw, while i'm here - any easy way to concatinate lines from a file when the last ended in '\' ?
<ag4ve>
(i'm pretty sure i don't handle command lines w/ comments at the end either, but...)
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<Caerus>
maan... sinus infection and studying ruby (or anything for that matter) don't go along :(
<ag4ve>
line.gsub(/#.*/,'') will be fine wrt comments in command lines - i have no idea how to concatinate w/ the next line when the last char is '/' though
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<Ox0dea>
ag4ve: `lines.each_cons(2)` lets you process them pair-wise.
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<ag4ve>
ah ty
<Ox0dea>
ag4ve: So, er, I guess /foo/ Regexp literals really ought to permit /s in comments, but it probably makes everything gnarlier than is warranted for something so small.
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<Ox0dea>
If you're dead-set on having the slash in, `%r{foo} == /foo/`.
<djellemah>
ag4ve: I'd use a custom Enumerator for concatenating lines, but that might be overkill if you're new at ruby.
<Ox0dea>
Aye, you'd ideally want to walk them individually and maintain a simple state machine.
<Ox0dea>
But doing it with #each_cons is dirty and exciting. :P
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<djellemah>
:-O right up perler's street...
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<ag4ve>
ah thanks - i'll make the bug report so it's known - now that i know, i don't much care if it's fixed
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<ag4ve>
though i would've assumed the parser would stop looking after # anyway
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<ag4ve>
well, # outside of character classes and not \#
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<ag4ve>
iirc i saw a (?#...) for comments in the middle of a regex which seemed weird to me, but i guess that's your third edge case
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<Ox0dea>
ag4ve: Well, when you think about it, you have to escape every other slash if you're using a /foo/ Regexp.
<Ox0dea>
I'm not sure whether that rule should be broken for embedded comments.
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<Ox0dea>
Onigmo *could* permit raw slashes in character classes, but it would unduly complicate things, and I think the same logic can be applied for comments.
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<ag4ve>
my issue is parsing after a bare # w/ /x - after it hits # it shouldn't try any farther
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<ag4ve>
idk if there are any unicode or ebdic cases that i'm not considering (i don't think so) but...
<ag4ve>
(or if ruby even compiles on a mainframe :P )
<ag4ve>
*ebcdic
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<manveru>
ag4ve: it's more likely to be a bug in oniguruma
<manveru>
though ruby forked that, so in the end it's up to matz and co to fix it :)
<Ox0dea>
I don't think anything's broken. :x
<Ox0dea>
The comments are still "part of" the Regexp, and so have their syntax slightly constrained.
<manveru>
oh wait, it's working with %r?
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<manveru>
then, nevermind, didn't read all the history ^^;
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<ag4ve>
i guess then the constraint should at least be documented (though that wouldn't've helped me - i wouldn't've thought to look at a comment constraint)
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<ag4ve>
btw, is %r{...} considered the "right way" vs /.../ ?
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<manveru>
usually, yeah
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<Ox0dea>
?
<manveru>
%r() or %r{} or %r[] or %r!! or %r%% or %r@@ or ...
<ag4ve>
mmmm, i wonder if i should be testing defined?
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<ag4ve>
or == nil
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<norc>
Ox0dea: Working with grammars I have come to realise wonderful things.
<norc>
Like did you know that "void;" is a syntactically legal declaration in C...
<workmad3_>
ag4ve: the problem appears to be that `cap` is a MatchData object from a regexp match... and that doesn't support `[]=` (which is what `cap["foobar"] = <something>` does)
<ag4ve>
meh, == nil doesn't work either - something else that idk
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<ag4ve>
oooo, of course i can't redefine that - yeah that makes perfect sense - doh
<Ox0dea>
ag4ve: Of course you can. It'd just be a really weird thing to do. :P
<ag4ve>
so, how do i copy cap into a plain array of strings?
<ruby[bot]>
Ox0dea: # => undefined method `named_captures' for #<MatchData "abc123" word:"abc" num:"123"> (NoMethodError) ...check link for more (https://eval.in/549137)
<Ox0dea>
Wat.
<Ox0dea>
&ri MatchData#named_captures
<`derpy>
No results
<Ox0dea>
I can't believe that's a Ruby 2.4 thing. :(
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<Ox0dea>
ag4ve: You'll have to say `$~.names.zip($~.captures).to_h`. :/
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<n1colas>
Hello
<jhass>
hi
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<ag4ve>
wfm - it's in a chef env, so iirc i'm on 2.1 anyway
<ag4ve>
well, wfm but yeah, kinda ugly
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<gregf_>
ag4ve: args = %w|foo bar baz|;str = "foo bar baz"; /(?<foo>\w+)\s+(?<bar>\w+)\s+(?<baz>\w+)/ =~ str; p [ foo,bar, baz].zip(args).to_h <== like that
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<blackmesa>
hi all. Should I rather use 'Time.current.to_date' or 'Date.current' for todays date?
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<Ishido>
Isn't that "Date.today" ?
<Ishido>
(not checked)
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<workmad3>
blackmesa: if you're in rails, `Date.current` is your best bet... if you're in plain ruby, `Date.today`
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<workmad3>
(Date.today will use the system locale's timezone, Date.current in rails will pay attention to Time.zone)
<Ishido>
(oh yes, I forgot RoR, sorry)
<blackmesa>
thx Ishido workmad3 for quick response
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<Ishido>
If it helped you...
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<the_drow>
has anyone tried to use coverband with Grape? The documentation only talks about Sinatra and Rails
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<Urs0>
Hello. :)
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<jhass>
hi
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<shevy>
yo jhass - I see you are busy hacking away at crystal
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<jhass>
more or less
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<failshell>
anyone knows of a gem that handles authentication to the AWS REST APIs? version 4 hopefully? I'm talking about the HMAC-SHA1 signing
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<DefV>
I want a function to have the signature "meta(property: 'og:description')", but I feel doing `def meta(fields); prop, field = fields.to_a[0]; end` is quite dirty. Is there a better way?
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<ag4ve>
i notice most (everything?) inherrits nil? but i can't seem to put that inline with another method: $1.nil?.gsub(...)
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<canton7>
.nil? returns true or false
<ag4ve>
i guess what i'm asking is if there's a way to only use a method if the variable is defined?
<canton7>
and booleans don't have the method gsub
<ag4ve>
yeah, that makes sense
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<Papierkorb>
ag4ve: With Ruby2.3: the_variable&.gsub(..)
<atmosx>
ag4ve if you could post a code snippet would be asier
<atmosx>
easier
<Papierkorb>
ag4ve: Without Ruby2.3: the_variable && the_variable.gsub(...) # Functionally almost identical. Identical if you don't chain-call another method
<ag4ve>
so, a declaration from a regex match would be like foo = ($1 && $1.gsub(/[\t ]*, '')) ?
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<ag4ve>
mmm, nm - i can tias too - thanks :)
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<Papierkorb>
ag4ve: Depends.
<Papierkorb>
as in: Yes, but maybe there's a better way
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<ag4ve>
i see what i'm running into gsub is overwriting the previous regex's $1,$2,... variables
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<zomba>
big 'ol network problems this morning...
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<djellemah>
zomba: self.print_todo is a class method. Which in your case means that the @items it uses is not the one that you assign in TodoList.initialize
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<agent_white>
Mornin' folks
<zomba>
I need print_items defined in class Item, but callable in class TodoList
<zomba>
self.print_todo works fine in class TodoList
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<smathy>
Yeah, I suppose you'd need something else, self.prototype.def ;)
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<smathy>
...my point was just that the syntax would make more sense to me if you adjusted what `def` was "called on" (I know it's not a regular method in current implementation) rather than changing the arg to def.
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<jyaworski>
Hey all. Anyone using savon? I've passed my path to :wsdl, but in the logs it shows me it's querying 8443 instead of my specified port in the URI.
<pizzaops>
Is that actually idiomatic? Is there a "better" way?
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<shevy>
depends on how much your reader method would do
<shevy>
in this case you don't even use it
<shevy>
erm setter
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<pizzaops>
Yeah I really just need a attr_reader here, but that's not really my question
<pizzaops>
I'm more asking about my use of param=nil and ||
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<Ox0dea>
pizzaops: Why not use default arguments as intended?
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<pizzaops>
Ox0dea: that's...a good point
<pizzaops>
I'm not sure why!
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<pizzaops>
Ox0dea: you're 100% right . . . I don't remember what got me on this path.
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<pizzaops>
There was some point where normal defaults weren't good enough but I don't remember why anymore, and I think I just kept doing this weird pattern even when not necessary
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<Ox0dea>
pizzaops: Be free of your cargo cult.
<pizzaops>
Ox0dea: the funny thing about it in this case was I was cargo-culting *myself*
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<pizzaops>
Thanks, as usual!
<Ox0dea>
Sure thing. ^_^
<Ox0dea>
Good on ya for self-medicating, as it were.
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<Ox0dea>
pizzaops: For your edification, a pattern of which to be both aware and wary: https://eval.in/549533
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<a1fa>
is it possible to have a has_many with additional scope?
<a1fa>
wrong channel
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<djellemah>
I have this perception that DRb is ... not production-ready, slightly flaky. But, I can't find any solid information on the matter.
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<someish>
What’s going on in a ruby class when a method is called from outside one of the methods in that class? For example, in PHP or Java, you can’t just call a function or method inside a class declaration, but outside a method declaration.
<shevy>
atm0sphere if it is not installed then of course you can not use it :)
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<zomba>
Sorry for the time waster
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<zomba>
That's an interesting problem with gem install though (for me). Can rescue exception and install gem, but a require after that fails. But running the code again succeeds
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<Ox0dea>
Installing gems in a rescue clause is pretty cruel.
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<zomba>
It was a "ensure_gem_is_installed" method idea
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<shevy>
you mean to install the gem when it is not available at runtime?
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<zomba>
Yep
<zomba>
I need to decide on a permanent nickname and register it...
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<shevy>
zombie!
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<VeryBewitching>
It'd be cool to have a small zombie-ant-farm
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<shevy>
there was once a mini-ant game in ruby-gnome
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