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<sotrhraven> does anyone know the status of the rubymonk site
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<require_all_the_> Hello all :) I have a question about Active Record Single Table Inheritance. How can I prevent subclass A from having accessors for attributes from subclass B? (since all those columns are in the same table)
<require_all_the_> Thanks in advance
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<adam12> require_all_the_: There's a #RubyOnRails channel that might be better suited.
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<require_all_the_> thank you adam12, i will go there
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<warrshrike> Hey gentlemen. So I want to set a string in ruby to a file path for sending the file to an API
<warrshrike> and I want to do this for lots of files while iterating over a list of file paths
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<warrshrike> so the thing is I have a list of paths that only go to the folder but not the actual file within. So for example I have '/home/xyz/android/apps/rvrv/whatsapp/' but i want '/home/xyz/android/apps/rvrv/whatsapp/whatsapp_3.1.apk'
<warrshrike> keep in mind that every directory only has one file
<zacts> hi rubyists
<zacts> I'm making progress through the Well Grounded Rubyist 2nd edition
<warrshrike> so how can I have the string include the last file name 'automatically' in ruby
<zacts> I like this book
<zacts> I find it kind of interesting and cool how it begins with objects before classes
<zacts> and it presents this kind of philosophy
<zacts> as classes are actually objects in Ruby it seems?
<zacts> they are like object generating objects?
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<warrshrike> guys
<warrshrike> my scan function says No such file or directory @ rb_sysopen - /home/xyz/Android_malware/gtasaHACKDDD/gtahacked.apk
<warrshrike> even though directly pasting /home/xyz/Android_malware/gtasaHACKDDD/gtahacked.apk works fine
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<newbie_in_ruby9> hi, what is the best tool to review your code quality ? rubocop ?
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<newbie_in_ruby9> i'm looking for a ruby mentor...anyone ?
<bougyman> newbie_in_ruby9: rubocop catches a lot, yeah.
<bougyman> I use rubocop + syntastic.
<baweaver> it's probably going to be fairly quiet around here for a few days.
<bougyman> (in vim)
<baweaver> Holidays and all.
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<Zarathos> Hi
<zacts> hi
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<Zarathos> Uh, so you guys give general help for ruby and stuff?
<blackbom1> yeah sure
<Zarathos> I'm new to programming in general, so I'm quite the pleb...
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<Zarathos> Not sure where I should start :l
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<antoniobeyah> Zarathos: https://www.codecademy.com/
<antoniobeyah> find something that interests you and go from there
<Zarathos> Right
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<antoniobeyah> or pick a project and just do it. my first project was a simple fahrenheit to celcius calculator. you can learn the basics doing that
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<Zarathos> You can make games with any language?
<nchambers> sure
<antoniobeyah> depends on the type of games. some languages are better suited than others
<blackbom1> yeah but you might hit limitations doing that with ruby. toy games, for sure.
<blackbom1> maybe check mruby as well.
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<majjoha> Can somebody please remind me of the name of the site where one could go to investigate how the C code for Ruby was defined? It is a relatively interactive site (with comments if I recall correctly), and it is not ruby-doc.org.
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<ljarvis> majjoha: not sure about comments, but there's the rxr which is nice https://rxr.whitequark.org/mri/source
<ljarvis> doesn't have newer versions though
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<apeiros> ljarvis: seems like it's in need of a new maintainer :-/
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<blackbombay> whitequark is gone?
<apeiros> depends on what you mean by "gone"
<apeiros> ruby isn't his focus anymore. if he still uses it at all.
<blackbombay> gotcha
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<apeiros> btw., anybody happen to know whether classes are GCed by now?
<apeiros> iirc they weren't back in 1.8, and I never bothered to check (and not sure either how to accurately check that actually…)
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<blackbombay> anonymous classes or FooClass = nil?
<apeiros> anonymous classes
<apeiros> structs in my case
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<blackbombay> i dont know with any certainity but i thought normal scope rules would have applied.
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<majjoha> ljarvis: Thanks. It is not the site I was thinking of, so I am still looking, though. :-)
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<ljarvis> apeiros: heh yeah
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<apeiros> ljarvis: in what regards was that "yeah"?
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<kke> anyone on a windows box? does `$stdin.sysread(1)` give "IOError sysread for buffered IO" ?
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<kke> >> $stdin.sysread(1)
<ruby[bot]> kke: # => (https://eval.in/685397)
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<ljarvis> apeiros: the maintainer comment, not the GC comment I'm afraid
<apeiros> ah
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<yorickpeterse> ughh, I hate how Symbol doesn't define start_with?/end_with?/etc
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<herwin> but it does work with match or =~
<herwin> to keep things not so consistent
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<dminuoso> yorickpeterse: Symbols are little to do wtih strings.. so..
<dminuoso> herwin: That's funny - I didn't know that.
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<yorickpeterse> dminuoso: there's no reason they can't support it
<herwin> symbols actually support a lot of string-operations
<dminuoso> yorickpeterse: I feel like there should be no reason to support things like =~ - the #to_s operator lets you do all these things.
<dminuoso> I dont see any value added to make symbols act as if they were strings.
<yorickpeterse> dminuoso: it would make both of them transparent to the user
<yorickpeterse> removing the need for #to_s calls
<yorickpeterse> which in turn would remove random NoMethodError errors
<indistylo> [Off Topic]Hello Folks, Is there any tool online or linux based which can do video editing like this https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rbRieFzbZXA
<dminuoso> indistylo: I think you are asking in the wrong channel.
<dminuoso> yorickpeterse: I understand where you're coming from.
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<indistylo> dminuoso, Yes thinking is correct
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<terens> how can i write this ?
<terens> puts "==".times(level +1) + " #{name}"
<dminuoso> yorickpeterse: Recently we had someone here make a joke about 'aggregator'.chars.permutation { |chars| const_set(chars.join.capitalize, Aggregator) }
<dminuoso> yorickpeterse: I do wonder where the limit is for handholding.
<kke> yorickpeterse: would :foo.start_with? 'f', ':', :, or :f?'
<dminuoso> terens: What is that supposed to do?
<dminuoso> kke: "f"
<terens> if level 1 ==== blah
<terens> if level 2
<dminuoso> Huh?
<terens> ====== blah
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<dminuoso> &ri String#* terens
<dminuoso> adaedra: Can we have _derpy updated to match 2.3.3?
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<terens> ok
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<terens> puts "#{'==' * (level + 1)}> #{name}"
<terens> is it possible to have " within { } ?
<dminuoso> terens: Escape them with a backslash \
<terens> not to show them
<terens> but instead of '
<dminuoso> terens: Escape them with a backslash \
<dminuoso> terens: Also you probably shouldn't do complex logic inside interpolation.
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<herwin> irb(main):005:0> "#{"==" * (level + 1)}> #{name}"
<herwin> => "====> [[name]]"
<dminuoso> terens: Compute the "==" characters a line before and it into a variable with a sensible name.
<dminuoso> herwin: Mm. :)
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<dminuoso> terens: for example: indent = "==" * (level + 1); puts indent + " " + name
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<terens> indeed thanks
* apeiros actually doesn't understand why Symbol#to_s doesn't return the same frozen string all the time
<apeiros> instead it creates a new String instance every time
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<dminuoso> apeiros: Because then folks like me would thaw the string and be nasty.
<dminuoso> :o)
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<apeiros> dminuoso: you deserve all the bad things that happen to you for thawing frozen objects!
<apeiros> why not just .dup it instead of thawing?
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<dminuoso> I don't clone or dup frozen objects because I can't remember what their subtle difference was. Instead I just thaw objects instead. :-P
<dminuoso> Clearly.
<apeiros> that's clever.
<apeiros> clone clones the singleton class with it, also the frozen state
<apeiros> (which is stupid - means you can't create a mutable copy and retain the singleton class)
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<dminuoso> apeiros: But there's more to it according to the documentation.
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<dminuoso> apeiros: dup copies tainted state
<apeiros> so does clone
<apeiros> the only other diff I remember is the callback
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<dminuoso> Oh then dup does not copy frozen state
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<dminuoso> but clone does
<apeiros> correct
<apeiros> which I mentioned above
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<dminuoso> under #dup: This method may have class-specific behavior. If so, that behavior will be documented under the #initialize_copy method of the class.
<dminuoso> Wow.
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<dminuoso> Been a while since I heard about initialize_copy
<apeiros> hm, the docs missed that
<apeiros> dup calls initialize_dup
<apeiros> clone calls initialize_clone
<apeiros> both default to calling initialize_copy
<apeiros> but the docs don't mention initialize_dup & initialize_clone
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<apeiros> anyway, that's the 3 diffs between the two
<apeiros> I tend to forget the callback one since I barely ever implement it - and if I implement it, I implement initialize_copy, not _dup or _clone.
<apeiros> _clone makes little sense to me anyway since it could crash if the source was frozen
<dminuoso> And this is why you thaw objects!
<apeiros> hell no.
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<yorickpeterse> kke: the ":" is not part of the symbol value
<yorickpeterse> so that makes no sense
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<yorickpeterse> :foo.start_with?('f') would return true
<yorickpeterse> ":" is merely used for displaying/syntax
* apeiros always reads kke as "kekeke" (koreans write *laughing* that way)
<yorickpeterse> much like how an array doens't contain an actual literal [ in memory
<yorickpeterse> dminuoso: also wtf is that code
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<dminuoso> yorickpeterse: It's obvious isn't it? You can DRY this into a method in Kernel - never again make a typo and get a const missing error.
<dminuoso> yorickpeterse: Though apeiros had the idea of hooking this into const_missing - even more brilliant.
<dminuoso> Arary.new will finally work again.
<yorickpeterse> I mean, why the F are you setting the permutations of "aggregator" as constants?
<apeiros> you'd put it in Object actually, as that's const top level ;-)
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<dminuoso> yorickpeterse: Well, the joke came from someone who was talking to a co-worker who was constantly making typos in the Aggregator class.
<dminuoso> And that was his proposed solution.
<yorickpeterse> Ah right
<yorickpeterse> I propose giving them a course in English spelling instead :P
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<dminuoso> Has someone developed some sleek compact idiom to map a hashes keys according to another hash?
<dminuoso> This is what I use currently: o.select { |k, _| PARAM_MAPPING.keys.include?(k.to_sym) }.map { |k,v| [PARAM_MAPPING[k.to_sym], v] }.to_h
<koffeekbd> dminuoso: hi!
<dminuoso> Hello koffeekbd.
<koffeekbd> dminuoso: hi!
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<rob_> can anyone tell me if this is bad practice: https://gist.github.com/roobert/34fbc56f007d3a3d2ab325b8a02c4086
<koffeekbd> rob_: hi!
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<centrx> ops/ban: koffeekbd is a bot/script that says hi to everyone (saw in other channel)
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<yorickpeterse> Can we not put bots like that in the channel?
<ljarvis> ^
<yorickpeterse> IIRC there's even a policy against bots
<ljarvis> there is
<ljarvis> please2remove the bot
<ljarvis> whoever is running it
<centrx> rob_: what part specifically?
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<centrx> This bot is indiscriminately annoying
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<koffeekbd> centrx - it was a bad trigger lol
<ljarvis> koffeekbd: please disable it if you're not actually a bot
<rob_> centrx: is it acceptable to use a module metaclass like this to store config
<herwin> i guess the bot just became sentient
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<koffeekbd> ljarvis - no duh. it's disabled. I had to run out and help someone with something before and I forgot out about it. afk
<centrx> rob_: Yes. I do it, so it must be okay
<rob_> centrx: excellent, thanks
<rob_> ;)
<apeiros> dminuoso: hash.keys.include? is a very slow way to say hash.include? ;-)
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<apeiros> o.map { |k,_| [mapping[k],v] }.tap { |h| h.delete(nil) } # assumes nil is not a valid key
<apeiros> whoops, omitted a to_h
<apeiros> o.map { |k,_| [mapping[k],v] }.to_h.tap { |h| h.delete(nil) } # assumes nil is not a valid key
<apeiros> if nil is a valid key: o.map { |k,_| n = mapping[k]; n ? [n,v] : v }.compact.to_h # assumes nil is not a valid key
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<apeiros> copy paste failure
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<dminuoso> apeiros: Mmm, right.
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<apeiros> centrx: btw., `!ops` highlights all ops
<centrx> yup it wasn't an emergency -- yet
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<handicraftsman> Is ruby-stdlib written in ruby?
<centrx> yes
<Yxhuvud> mostly. there are some extensions.
<handicraftsman> So, by rewriting it in C we can get more performance!
<handicraftsman> Yup?
<Yxhuvud> yeah
<centrx> handicraftsman: I notice some things are in C, like BigDecimal
<Yxhuvud> also, more segfaults.
<handicraftsman> Tru.
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<Natalya> Hello! I am from Moscow. Does anyone want to chat?
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<chocolatemario> a
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<lmc> Rubyists, I'm looking for a readable yet compact idiom to assign my capture groups to local variables. I've come up with x, y, z = re.last_match[:x,:y,:z] . Is there a better way to do this?
<lmc> Maybe there's a way to retrieve the capture group names from the regular expression itself and avoid having to repeat them all over the place?
<centrx> lmc: if you have so many that's an issue, why assign them to individual variables?
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<centrx> that's what a hash is for
<centrx> match.named_captures returns Hash
<centrx> actually, re.named_captures
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<lmc> centrx: because this all is part of a Chef Resource definition, and I have to provide the values to the corresponding attributes of the Resource I'm implementing.
<lmc> So I'm not going to create a lot of variables, just fill in the ones I already have declared as properties of the Chef Resource. :)
<centrx> oh bummer
<centrx> lmc: You could using Binding#local_variable_set, but I don't know if that fits with what Chef needs
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<lmc> centrx: that's a lead. Appreciated. :)
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<havenwood> >> /(?<x>\d+)(?<y>\w+)/ =~ '42xyz'; [x, y] # lcm, this is a very concise but lesser-used way, fwiw
<ruby[bot]> havenwood: # => ["42", "xyz"] (https://eval.in/685691)
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<toretore> havenwood is just joking, that doesn't actually work, don't try it
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<Arney> is there something like currying in ruby or will have to go with closure?
<Arney> s
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<centrx> Arney: Proc#curry
<Arney> great thanks
<Arney> i like curry
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<jesush> So how many active users do we have in this channel?
<centrx> Arney: actually can do that with Methods too, http://ruby-doc.org/core-2.2.0/Method.html#method-i-curry
<centrx> jesush: you're it brother
<jesush> woohoo!
<jesush> @centrx what’s your environment unix, windows, osx?
<centrx> I have enough VMs open that I am currently running all of the above
<centrx> on one laptop!
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<jesush> Running into some issues with the good ol openssl certificate problem with rbenv and was wondering if anyone has resolved theirs
<jesush> Awesome sauce!
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<jesush> openssl works just fine with the new certificate
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<jesush> but rubygems has issues
<centrx> I don't know, update rubygems and everything?
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<jesush> Did that no dice
<havenwood> jesush: What version of RubyGems are you on?: gem -v
<havenwood> jesush: What version of Ruby?
<jesush> ruby ruby 2.2.4p230 (2015-12-16 revision 53155)
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<lmc> havenwood: for readability I'm refactoring my regular expression into a "constant" created with Regexp.compile() (the regular expression has several lines, with plenty of comments and documentation).
<jesush> rubygems 2.6.7
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<lmc> I started using that form – that's intuitive and natural for me. Unfortunately I was forced to move my Regular Expression code away from the code using it, and this is the start of the issue.
<havenwood> jesush: Update to Ruby 2.2.6, which includes new SSL certificates for RubyGems.
<jesush> just did, currently running 2.6.7 which is the latest
<jesush> Unless you’re referring to downgrading back to 2.2.6
<havenwood> jesush: Rbenv's ruby-build Ruby versions are coupled to the version of ruby-build, so first update ruby-build then install Ruby 2.2.6.
<havenwood> jesush: Ruby 2.2.6
<havenwood> jesush: RubyGems 2.6.8
<jesush> yass!
<jesush> That’s probably why I’m having issues
<jesush> havenwood: Thanks!
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<Arney> centrx: thanks!
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<jesush> problem resolved
<jesush> really annoying but woohoo it works
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<spicerack> Does anyone know a course (I'm not opposed to paying) that will step me through building a app/software in Ruby? I am learning and would like to start building a project but do not have ideas myself for my first app. I would prefer a book or document instructions instead of video based, but video supplements are okay too.
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<xrlk> the standard project for a ruby beginner is a twitter clone sp
<xrlk> spicerack,
<spicerack> cool
<xrlk> pretty easy to do
<xrlk> and you can implement bootstrap
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<spicerack> yeah i just learned how to install bootstrap into rails
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<Nilium> I had the weird beginner Ruby project: write a small OpenGL renderer.
<blackbombay> is that what you want to do? rails?
<blackbombay> Nilium: sounds more fun than rails
<spicerack> Well, I'd like to move into a programming job in the future - I am a CS university student currently but because of work conflicts I might not be able to continue, but I work for a startup and would like to get into programming with them if possible
<spicerack> They use rails, but also other technologies
<Nilium> blackbombay: Is for me, but I just don't use rails
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<blackbombay> ok i see
<blackbombay> i would recommend finishing uni ;) your call.
<spicerack> I'm going to try for sure, I took this job because of financial need but also because of the potential opportunities
<blackbombay> uni degree will open doors as well.
<blackbombay> maybe open doors more fun than rails development.
<spicerack> Thanks for reaffirming me to not just give up
<spicerack> I'm pretty into web dev, I have a BFA in web design too but I don't want to do design
<blackbombay> hmm cool
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<spicerack> My school doesn't teach ruby, so it's all on me to pick up
<blackbombay> yeah
<blackbombay> but ruby isn't that hard, you should be fine
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<blackbombay> my advise is to write something that solves a problem/need you have
<spicerack> Yeah, I've done my programming classes and learning languages is easier than ever now, I just would like some early guidance but I have a sub gifted to me to codeplace.com - I'm going to work through it
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<blackbombay> cool
<blackbombay> looks decent never heard of it before
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<spicerack> I'm working through a tutorial to make a to do list, I'm learning stuff, so that is good, I need to do more research to learn stuff more in depth still
<spicerack> Like it shows me how to do stuff sometimes but I don't know why
<blackbombay> yeah, to do list sounds good as a starting app
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<spicerack> It has a way to move it from "to do" to "doing" to "done" - not draggable like Trello, but good enough for a starting point I suppose :)
<spicerack> It also has stuff like how to make a Pinterest type site
<spicerack> I suppose I do have a good starting point
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* Nilium has a degree in English but works mainly as a backend systems dev.
<Nilium> Though I had the benefit of being a programmer before I got my degree.
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<Nilium> So, uh, hard work and effort and stuff I guess should eventually get you somewhere.
<spicerack> Thanks
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<Nilium> ch: ls: command not found?
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