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<tostado11> Can someone help my thick head grasp 'string formatting' ? I'm reading about it and don't understand its purpose. It's string interpolation, correct?
<tostado11> Can someone help my thick head grasp 'string formatting' ? I'm reading about it and don't understand its purpose. It's string interpolation, correct?
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<Darmani> Hi everyone, I'm having some trouble understanding why this comes back as false.
<Darmani> I guess I don't understand how .any? works but it seem straightforward so...
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<Darmani> oh.
<Darmani> So it was working lol.
<Darmani> thanks. my bad >.<
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<disavowed> Is perftools still the goto profiler or is there something better?
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<rudy91> hi everyone
<rudy91> is there a way to have something like this : string ||= 'Guest'
<rudy91> but in my case, to test if it is blank
<rudy91> not nil
<rudy91> ?
<SegFaultAX> rudy91: Are you using Rails?
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<rudy91> i'm using ruby 2.3.1
<SegFaultAX> Well I'm asking about Rails because Rails adds String#blank?
<SegFaultAX> So you could do `s = 'Guest' if s.blank?`
<rudy91> it is a ruby script
<rudy91> i'm refactoring the entire code
<SegFaultAX> If you only care about the empty string, you can just do `s = 'Guest' if s.empty?`
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<rudy91> no better way to do that ?
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<SegFaultAX> Better how? What's insufficient about that?
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<rudy91> i dont want to use 'if'
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<SegFaultAX> Why?
<SegFaultAX> You could use the ternary operator I suppose, which would have the same effect: `s = s.empty? ? 'Guest' : s`
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<rudy91> i'm learning ruby refactoring, so i'm looking to the best option
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<SegFaultAX> So what's wrong with an if?
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<rudy91> ok, you re certainly right :)
<disavowed> Is perftools still the go-to profiler or is there something better?
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<SegFaultAX> disavowed: Most probably perftools or ruby-prof
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<disavowed> SegFaultAX: Oh hey! Thanks!
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<dminuoso_> Hi. Is there a way to change the default base of Fixnum when printing?
<dminuoso_> I want it to be displayed in base 16 by default.
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<imightbestupid12> there is a second argument
<imightbestupid12> if i remember focrrectly
<imightbestupid12> correctly*
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<dminuoso_> imightbestupid12: That's not what I asked.
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<dminuoso_> Im printing fixnums all over the place and Im dead sick of always calling .to_s(16) everywhere.
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<imightbestupid12> you can try creating a class
<dminuoso_> I do not want to wrap it in a class.
<dminuoso_> >> puts 16 # I want this to print "10" by default
<ruby[bot]> dminuoso_: # => 16 ...check link for more (https://eval.in/670940)
<apeiros> monkey patch either to_s or inspect
<dminuoso_> apeiros: Oh.
<dminuoso_> Oh.
<apeiros> depending on which printing method you use
<apeiros> I don't think there's a config for that :-|
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<imightbestupid12> what's the difference between monkey patching and wrapping it in a class that has a method that returns that?
<apeiros> the amount of work needed in existing code
<dminuoso_> apeiros: See I havent monkey patched Ruby core classes in like...
<dminuoso_> well.
<dminuoso_> Minutes I guess?
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<imightbestupid12> wouldn't a class be more beneficial?
<apeiros> of course it comes at a cost - you'll have to be certain that this comes with no negative side effects. which might be hidden everywhere :<
<imightbestupid12> you can then upload your code as a gem
<imightbestupid12> apeiros: wouldn't creating a class always be best instead of monkey patching?
<apeiros> imightbestupid12: consider dminuoso_'s case. they have existing code. creating a class means they have to go and wrap all numeric in that class.
<imightbestupid12> why can't they just instantiate a new class?
<apeiros> I'd probably go with a refinement (monkey patch which is at least lexically limited)
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<dminuoso_> >> module ProperBase; def to_s(n=16); super(n); end; end; class Fixnum; prepend ProperBase; end; puts 15; # <3 apeiros
<ruby[bot]> dminuoso_: # => f ...check link for more (https://eval.in/670943)
<apeiros> imightbestupid12: I'm not sure what about "requires lots of code change" was unclear
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<dminuoso_> apeiros: Screw refinements. Core classes are to be monkey patched.
<imightbestupid12> i mean wouldn't you just use it on the methods that need it?
<dminuoso_> Today Im in my crazy mood.
<apeiros> commute time. cya later.
<dminuoso_> apeiros: Also there's that bit that Im in no mood to create instances of a custom class.
<dminuoso_> imightbestupid12: In my code Im using a lot of literals, which I would have to convert.
<imightbestupid12> oh
<imightbestupid12> i don't generally write my code like that
<imightbestupid12> that's why i am having a hard time understanding
<dminuoso_> Also who wants to honestly print in base 10 by default anyway.
<dminuoso_> Its useless.
<imightbestupid12> i actually never write my code like that
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<imightbestupid12> base 10 is great for that rpn calculator project :)
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<dminuoso_> imightbestupid12: From the top off your head, tell me the 9 bit number in base ten with all bits set.
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<imightbestupid12> i'm bad at math
<dminuoso_> imightbestupid12: in base 16 its 0x1ff - very obvious and easy
<imightbestupid12> i can't answer that question without googling to understand everything you just said
<dminuoso_> >> puts 0x1ff
<ruby[bot]> dminuoso_: # => 511 ...check link for more (https://eval.in/670946)
<dminuoso_> 511 is simple enough still.
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<jokke> hi
<jokke> quick rspec question
<jokke> i have this module https://p.jreinert.com/mij0W/ and i use config.extend to have the confirm method available in example groups. i use it like this: https://p.jreinert.com/yC9m/
<jokke> unfortunately i get the error that url isn't available on an example group
<jokke> ah
<jokke> ok this makes sense i guess
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<jokke> ok wow
<jokke> this is super confusing
<jokke> if i just forward the block from confirm to example it works
<jokke> but if i open a new block for the example and yield from there it won't
<jokke> is this because in one case it's a lambda and in the other it's not?
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<jokke> maybe i should generalize my problem
<jokke> i want the evaluation of a block to be defered until the codeblock it's wrapped inside is evaluated
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<Burgestrand> jokke yes, I believe your problem is that when you capture the block you're capturing it in the context it is in right when you define it
<Burgestrand> jokke i.e. you can't use yield, but you could possibly do `instance_exec(&block)`
<Burgestrand> jokke the block you give to rspec's example/it will be executed in a specific context, same for describe, but when you're doing this (yield) you're not giving rspec control of execution context
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<mezger> I cannot find Fcntl::O_ASYNC after loading ruby's standard fcntl module. is this expected? I am on Linux, which has this flag
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<mezger> I'm also looking for an interface to sigtimedwait(2) but haven't found one. any hints?
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<blackbombay_> mezger: there is probably no ruby interface to that function. you could expose it through FFI, fiddle, or a C extension.
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<JoshL> What is the best way in Rake to use the `sh` helper in multiple argument form while setting an env var?
<JoshL> eg. I currently have something like `sh %(NODE_ENV=production node -r ...)` and I'd like to change it to `sh 'node', '-r', ...`
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<Burgestrand> JoshL from the source (https://github.com/ruby/rake/blob/master/lib/rake/file_utils.rb#L42) it looks like it uses system (https://ruby-doc.org/core-2.3.1/Kernel.html#method-i-system) which links to exec and then spawn (https://ruby-doc.org/core-2.3.1/Kernel.html#method-i-spawn), which claims you can set ENV vars by specifying a hash as your first parameter; does that work?
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<JoshL> Burgestrand: that does work, thank you!
<Burgestrand> JoshL \o/
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<NET||abuse> hi folks, i've a gem failing, librarian-puppet 2.2.3, puppet gem 3.8.7, ruby 2.2.5 through rvm, i get an error saying, "Unable to load puppet. Please install it using native packages..."etc
<NET||abuse> my path includes /usr/bin where puppet 3.7 is installed.
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<NET||abuse> i've tried setting rvm to use a seperate gemset ruby-2.2.5@jenkins-puppetbuild
<NET||abuse> still no joy
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<bigcat> is it possible to cache/memoize a whole ruby object?
<apeiros> bigcat: you realize there's no other kind of data in ruby?
<bigcat> im looking at the meomize functions, they all take a function to meomoize, that would mean i need to memoize new ?
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<apeiros> i.e. what object would be *not* a whole ruby object in ruby?
<bigcat> apeiros: yes, basically
<bigcat> apeiros: well, i still want to be able to call my methods on it like @cached_object.blah
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<bigcat> NET||abuse: not useful, i did that
<apeiros> bigcat: of course, because you usually memoize results of computations
<apeiros> bigcat: the other is just called "a variable"
<bigcat> NET||abuse: it would be useufl if you read what im asking about and actually gave the answer though :)
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<bigcat> apeiros: so if i memoize the whole object, teh functions would run normally and not be memoized?
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<bigcat> i basically jsut want all the isntance vars cached
<apeiros> I think you're using the wrong term
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<apeiros> you can probably use metaprogramming plus an existing memoization gem to do that.
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<bigcat> apeiros: yeah i think somethig custom is probably easier
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<bigcat> apeiros: can i just use a global var to store objects i want, i think at most it will be 40 objects
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<apeiros> bigcat: IMO don't use globals. Use at least a constant. Those you can meaningfully namespace.
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<bigcat> apeiros: yeah, i meant constants,thanks
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<codfection> hello
<codfection> how can I get started with ruby / ruby on rails
<havenwood> codfection: Maybe start with: http://tryruby.org/
<codfection> thanks havenwood
<codfection> do I need to do projects?
<havenwood> codfection: Then proceed to the Ruby Koans.
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<havenwood> codfection: Try Ruby will show you the very basics then the Koans will get you up to speed with testing and go into more depth.
<havenwood> codfection: I'd suggest starting with those two. Ask here if you run into trouble!
<codfection> thanks a lot havenwood :)
<havenwood> codfection: you're welcome, happy hacking!
<codfection> havenwood, do I need to buy any book?
<codfection> or those are sufficient ? :)
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<havenwood> codfection: Learn to Program by Chris Pine is a gentle introduction if you're new to programming or the Well-Grounded Rubyist (2nd edition for modern Ruby) jumps right into things.
<codfection> cool havenwood. really appreciate it :)
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<Kendos-Kenlen> Hi
<vktec> Hi
<Kendos-Kenlen> I'm trying to understand a part of the code of rotp, but I don't understand what those lines do : https://github.com/mdp/rotp/blob/master/lib/rotp/otp.rb#L32
<Kendos-Kenlen> the secret is hashed, but I don't really understand the utility of those byte operations
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<alphor> does OS X come with a usable gem version ootb? no access to OS X
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<havenwood> alphor: It's a bit dated but still usable. You'll probably want to install the latest Ruby and leave you system Ruby untouched for most dev stuff though.
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<alphor> havenwood: but for in person tutorials I can rely on it installing jekyll, right? The article mentions homebrew but I don't want to install all this stuff on someone elses machine.
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<alphor> and I could do it the right way but I just don't want to overload them with brew, git, jekyll, all in 2 hours.
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<havenwood> alphor: You could `sudo gem install jekyll` but I'd just get them going with brew. A package manager of some sort is a necessary bite off.
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<alphor> Unfortunate, but alright. thanks for the advice and the link.
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<hessparker> Hey, does anyone know why .with_index takes an offset arg, but each_with_index doesn't?
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<SeepingN> each implies all of them..?
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<SeepingN> .with_index.each
<Norm> i’ve long used EventMachine for an app that polls network devices via UDP, thousands of devices, a few polls per second.
<Norm> Have had some scaling problems, wondering if Eventmachine is really the Best WaY
<Norm> or is there a better high perforamance networking stack for UDP-intensive applications
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<Tilo> Im trying to do RVM Install 2.1.5 on Ubuntu. I keep getting installation failed with status: 100 even after I purged ruby and tried again
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<Tilo> I think I might have to do sudo but when I do sudo rvm install it says ti doesnt recognize it as a command
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<t0th_-_> hi, i update my ruby to 2.3.1 but now i dont have the bundle
<t0th_-_> how i can use it?
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<havenwood> t0th_-_: gem install bundler
<t0th_-_> thanks
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<havenwood> Tilo: Try?: apt-get update
<havenwood> Tilo: sudo apt-get update
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<Tilo> havenwood, already did
<Tilo> It had problems updating some unrelated things
<Tilo> but it doesnt change the problem
<havenwood> hessparker: I think it's just a historical relic of the with_index implementer thinking that'd be a good idea.
<havenwood> Tilo: Have you resolved the apt-get update problems?
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<havenwood> Tilo: You could configure RVM to not install the requirements or fix the issue preventing installation of the requirements.
<Tilo> havenwood, No but the only repositories not updating are unrelated to ruby
<Tilo> How do I configure RVM to not install the requirements
<havenwood> Tilo: If it prevents the command from returning a successful status it appears to block RVM none-the-less.
<havenwood> Tilo: rvm autolibs disable
<hessparker> SeepingN I am not sure what you mean. .with_index(1) also implies all of them, but lets you start counting from a different number.
<hessparker> ah, thanks havenwood. So are you saying that new code should not pass an arg to with_index?
<Tilo> havenwood, Ill try that
<havenwood> Tilo: Then check: rvm requirements
<Tilo> btw this is also in the error message for RVM: Error running 'requirements_debian_update_system ruby-2.1.5',
<Tilo> showing last 15 lines of /home/nixon/.rvm/log/1478198705_ruby-2.1.5/update_system.log
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<Tilo> It looks like its doing something different now
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<Tilo> Its done with no error message
<Tilo> now to see if it worked
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<tau> have been thinking. i can use something like arr.select {block} i was wondering if i could do something like iterator.select {block}
<havenwood> hessparker: It's fine to use an arg with #with_index
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<tau> is it possible to treat iterators as though they were arrays?
<hessparker> havenwood: thanks! Still seems strange to me that they are different.
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<havenwood> tau: Enumerator also mixes in Enumerable, just like Array does.
<blackbombay_> tau: select comes from the Enumerable module.
<havenwood> >> [].method(:select).owner
<ruby[bot]> havenwood: # => Array (https://eval.in/671344)
<havenwood> >> 1.step.method(:select).owner
<ruby[bot]> havenwood: # => Enumerable (https://eval.in/671345)
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<havenwood> Array happens to implement its own, but if Enumerable were prepended instead of included it's have that one.
<blackbombay_> >> {}.method(:select).owner
<ruby[bot]> blackbombay_: # => Hash (https://eval.in/671346)
<blackbombay_> heh
<havenwood> >> require 'set'; Set.new.method(:select).owner
<ruby[bot]> havenwood: # => Enumerable (https://eval.in/671347)
<tau> havenwood i'm not sure how i would use select with a function that implements yield. i tried something lik func.select { block } but it fails.
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<havenwood> tau: meth.select { |block_argument| block_argument.stuff }
<Tilo> havenwood, having to mess around more with dependencies but that seemed to fix my main problem thank you
<tau> havenwood hold on.
<havenwood> Tilo: nice, you're welcome
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<Tilo> havenwood, Im having trouble with do_sqlite3 is there a way to purge just that gem?
<havenwood> Tilo: Purge as in uninstall it?
<havenwood> Tilo: gem uninstall do_sqlite3
<tau> like that?
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<havenwood> Tilo: Or if you want to just get a fresh version: gem pristine do_sqlite3
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<reber> hey all. Does anyone know a tool like scrapy in ruby ?
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<havenwood> tau: See the Enumertor class docs, it's great!: https://docs.ruby-lang.org/en/2.3.0/Enumerator.html
<tau> i'll.
<Tilo> Alright Im still missing a dependecny, time to figure out which one
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<havenwood> reber: For simple tasks I like Spidr: https://github.com/postmodern/spidr#readme
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<havenwood> reber: Or Mechanize is powerful.
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<frankiee_> but old :D
<frankiee_> lol
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<reber> yeah mechanize seems old, wich one of all these is the most maintained / active ?
<reber> i'll try spidr
<reber> thanks havenwood :)
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<frankiee_> if ur gonna scrape front end stuff why use back end solutions
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<havenwood> Norm: The concurrent-ruby gem has some nice concurrency primitives. Here's one UDP server example: https://gist.github.com/pitr-ch/119e48c75ab5ccbbdac9
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<havenwood> Norm: You might also look at nio4r and celluloid-io
<Norm> havenwood: good references, will check them out thanks
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<mikecmpbll> any folks know any library i can do a plot to terminal from ruby that updates itself?
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<mikecmpbll> dunno if that makes sense, but like the plot on the left of here when you click start: http://www.emergentmind.com/neural-network
<mikecmpbll> just plotting one metric as i iterate.
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<machinewar> what does pry call to inspect element in console
<machinewar> i.e. if I just return an object it pretty prints it
<machinewar> => user
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<machinewar> same with rails console
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<manveru> machinewar: because that's what it's for?
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<manveru> both pry and irb do that
<chris2> irb prints .inspect i think
<chris2> manveru: what not why
<manveru> oh :)
<manveru> pry uses pretty_inspect afaicr
<chris2> IRB.conf[:INSPECT_MODE] = :pp
<chris2> hmm :)
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<jrn> hi
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<jrn> I have a class wich can be overwritten, to make class methods overwritable these should be named self.class_method - ok, but how do I get the class name of the overwritten class? class Test < EmptyClass; def self.test_method; puts "how to access the class name 'Test' not 'EmptyClass' by a method?"; end; end
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<apeiros> jrn: ::nam
<apeiros> +e
<apeiros> >> class X; def self.whatsmyname?; name; end; end; class Y < X; end; Y.whatsmyname?
<ruby[bot]> apeiros: # => "Y" (https://eval.in/671420)
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<apeiros> oh
<apeiros> you want the superclass?
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<jrn> not the superclass
<apeiros> then the above
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<apeiros> just Class#name
<jrn> the class that inherits the class that is then the superclass, how do I get it's name?
<apeiros> as said, to get "Test" from class Test < EmptyClass, it's just Class#name
<jrn> great, name works, thanks a lot!
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<apeiros> note that names for objects is a flawed concept
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<apeiros> x = Class.new(Array); y = x; Foo = y; Bar = x # what's that class' name? x, y, Foo, Bar?
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<jrn> [x, y, Foo, Bar].each { |klass| klass.name } # apeiros :)
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<jrn> so with .name I do get the name, and the class itself? eval(name).class?
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<jrn> eval("::#{name}")
<apeiros> I *guess* you wanted .map, not .each. I know what ruby will tell you. I ask you what you'd consider the name. and why.
<apeiros> what are variables which start with an uppercase letter?
<jrn> I think there is a better method
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<apeiros> yes, it's related to understanding one of the flaws in the concept of thinking object had names :) (hint: they don't - but variables do)
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<ljarvis> :)
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<Tilo> thanks again havenwood for helping me sort that out
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<blackbombay_> chris2: pry uses pretty_print by default but it has more than one strategy for printing an object, see list-inspectors and change-inspector commands.
<chris2> i kinda stopped learning about ruby before pry became a thing ;)
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<fooble> I've got a sketchup api ruby question, is this the right place for that kind of thing?
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<havenwood> fooble: If it's about the Ruby part, yup!
<fooble> oh very good! yes, about the ruby part
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<fooble> i'm creating an instance (sketchup model) with ruby code, once it's in the model I want to be able to associate the class which created it to the actual model instance in the drawing
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<fooble> so far, I've tried a has table using a static class to make the link, that seems to work, but I'm new to ruby api, so not sure if there is a better way?
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<fooble> using a Hash table, sorry, not a has table
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<fooble> here's the class which contains the hash table: http://pastebin.com/Nch1pBWP
<ruby[bot]> fooble: we in #ruby do not like pastebin.com, I reposted your paste to gist for you: https://gist.github.com/44a631e209abe5b1ede27a8a47e55e19
<ruby[bot]> fooble: pastebin.com loads slowly for most, has ads which are distracting and has terrible formatting.
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<fooble> oh sorry bout that :)
<fooble> and the class which creates a cube, for testing the hash table: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/787eaf514c64bf43d074e56d4ce94e4c
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<fooble> so in the drawToModel method in the Cube class, I'm creating the instance in the drawing and associating it with the class which made it in the hash table
<fooble> ModelRefContainer::insert(@refToModel, self)
<fooble> anyway, I didn't see anything in the docs about how to do this, so just interested to see if there is a better way?
<fooble> if anyone has any feedback it'd be much appreciated :)
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<mwlang> Given a Gemfile and Gemfile.lock that does not reference nor list the fastthread gem anywhere, how do I figure out which of the 60+ gems is actually pulling in fastthread?
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<darix> mwlang: gemfile.lock should list which gem pulls it
<mwlang> grep -i fast Gemfile.lock => next prompt without reporting anything.
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<mwlang> darix: the output from my cap deploy: https://gist.github.com/mwlang/4b95592cf76269f31b8938357276a691 as well as the Gemfile and Gemfile.lock
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<mwlang> darix: nevermind…the deploy is deploying the wrong branch altogether. The clue for me was the Ruby 1.8.7 that I spotted after gisting.
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<fooble> are there many people working on sketchup in this group usually?
<fooble> I guess it's really plugins more than proper ruby programming
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