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voltorb >
what is the best way to represent chess pieces?
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voltorb: you mean like “R N B K Q B N R” ?
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i mean first of all how will i know what piece is on the board and how will i be able to move it
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You're going to have to do some research there
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sketch it out, get some paper and write it down
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i already have
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voltorb: do you have a a representation of a board, yet?
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this part is way over my head
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baweaver >
Might it then be wise to google around for already built libraries in the language of the day?
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voltorb >
i have an array with 64 pieces
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(I'd found the same link)
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is that okay to do and not considered cheating?
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voltorb: I didn’t say steal other people’s code and claim as your own. ;-) Ultimately, if you’re doing this for a class project, you have to understand what other people did and defend your own choices should the teacher confront you. As long as you learned from others and applied your own solution and solved it yourself, I’d say you achieved the purpose of the assignment.
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voltorb >
thank you
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voltorb >
all i care about is learning
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voltorb >
i just don't get this part of programming
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“this part"?
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voltorb >
yeah the part where you can move chess pieces and set them on the board
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voltorb >
that part
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i get how to use the dom and css and html
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well, as you said, the board is 64 spaces. The space is either empty or holds one chess piece.
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each chess piece can move to only certain spaces based on simple, but unique rules for each piece.
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each turn, you ask a player for a piece and target to move to. “WQ” to A1 (where rows are A, B, C, etc. and columns are 1, 2, 3, etc.) You translate A1 to the first position in the Array…you search the array for where the “WQ” is and then make sure the requested move is legal. If it is, move it, if not, berate the poor player.
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basically, you have to break every single step down to it’s smallest level and start mapping that to code.
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well i get that much
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i just don't get the other part the implementation
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well…what are your thoughts on how to represent a piece?
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if i had thoughts...
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i'm not too sure
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i know it would be a good idea to break apart the objects
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like one file per object
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create a board object, each individual piece object, and a rules object
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that sounds good.
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that's the way i'd start
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so four separate files and then use the require keyword
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i'm not looking at solutions right now and i haven't ever looked at a solution before
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voltorb: Do you want a piece to be an instance of a String, or Array or Hash or Struct or do you want to define your own piece Class? How about for board?
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now this is where this complicated stuff is going over my head
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well, that’s really getting into the particulars of the language syntax, but really, you should be thinking about what makes each object something worth modeling.
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well the rules will tell you whether or not you can move the piece there or whether the game is still playable or whether or not you can take a piece
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the board will just hold all the pieces
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and the pieces will have a way to move on the board
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like the pieces will have a method for moving defined in the file
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there you go. there’s your first method…perhaps call it “move_to” and that method takes a coordinate on the board as a parameter.
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then your next question should be, does the piece inheritently know where it is on the board or does the board keep track of the piece and feeds it both it’s starting position/coordinate and desired target position/coordinate?
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that’s a design choice for the programmer. You just have to decide which is easiest for you to think about as you code it.
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i know this is stupid
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but how do i know which design choice to go for?
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voltorb: which makes more sense to you? Piece#move_to(starting_coordinate, ending_coordinate) or Piece#move_to(ending_coordinate) (and then in the method, self.board.get_starting_position(self)
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Borderline Rails'y, but has anybody seen a nice pattern to dynamically set the class of a serialized ActiveRecord field? Something paired with BasicObject perhaps?
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or a smart board with stupid pieces
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adam12: say more?
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havenwood: a JSON serialized column, but when initiated by ActiveRecord, is a class of a dynamic nature, dependent on another field in the record.
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gotta go. daughter calls for bedtime.
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Allowing me to have proper accessors, etc. on it.
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masterasia >
I edited a ruby gem - what's the best way to restore it
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(I added breakpoints)
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Just delete it
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masterasia: gem pristine gem-name-here
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havenwood >
see: gem help pristine
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i tried php composer this week... suprise it's really working and fast Oo
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i bet they don't use TLS yet, though :P
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zotherstupidguy >
is bundler a fork from thor? bundler git log shows common SHAs
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zotherstupidguy >
whats the story?
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zotherstupidguy >
toretore i see
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zotherstupidguy >
toretore thanks
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Rumbles_ >
hi, I'm trying to set up duc on ubuntu, but building from source it's after tokyocabinet, which I installed using apt (tokyocabinet-bin) but for whatever reason that didn't actually install the binaries (no idea??) but it looks like it's available to install using gem.... but when I tried to install it I get this:
http://pastebin.com/9i9sbKEY
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ruby[bot] >
Rumbles_: pastebin.com loads slowly for most, has ads which are distracting and has terrible formatting.
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it looks like I'm stuck in a loop, trying to install tokyocabinet fails because "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -ltokyocabinet"
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Rumbles_ >
can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
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hanmac >
Rumbles_: the gem tokyocabinet only connects (binds) the C library to ruby, it does not contrain the C library itself
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Rumbles_ >
oh right :/
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hanmac >
Rumbles_: you need the dev package for tokyocabinet
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hanmac >
Rumbles_: a check says its "libtokyocabinet-dev"
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yey, that's it, thanks hanmac
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I new I was doing something stupid :)
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Rumbles_: hm the gem chould have been a bit better with checking if everything it needs is installed, but good to know for you for the next time if you see an error/ gem problem like that
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so, naming things.. i'm writing a thing that deals with options. one of the parts is a thing that is used to get a value for the option. for example the value can come from an interactive prompt, environment variable, a default value or somewhere else. what should these "value obtainers" be called?
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like option.resolvers << EnvironmentResolver.new(env_variable_name)
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Morning all (or afternoon/evening depending on where you are)
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I was unaware of that, thanks
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good (UGT)
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what would you call a constructor(?) pattern like this? user = User.new.with_name("Mr User").with_age(34).with_alignment(:neutral)
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(i think i have only encountered it in java, but you are a knowledgable bunch that might know what this is called)
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I would not call it a constructor pattern at all. you just have a couple of "creatively" named setters.
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and honestly, I don't see an advantage over, say, User.with(name: "Mr User", age: …)
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(or just plain old User.new(…))
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and/or if you want to have it on the instance: User#update(name: …)
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Also I think it's a silly attempt at metaprogramming.
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If you require your code to read naturally to make sense, learn the language.
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thanks. i translated this from java, where it might make more sense given lack of named parameters and less flexible syntax in general.
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oddmunds: I think the more generic term is "domain specific language"
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maaaybe. i am sorry if the question was off topic, since i was mostly interested in the java bit of it. where i think it would be a strech to call it a DSL. but that might be because i am used to the possibilities of dsl in ruby.
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hm yeah i wouldn't call that Fluent stuff DSL too ... imo a DSL would look better than that
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mmm, oh
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>> Integer === Integer
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makes absolutely no sense
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can't make a case over a class
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do i really have to write an if else cascade to check if a class is one or another?
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jokke: Because === is the case equality operator.
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"I don't understand" != "makes no sense"
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jokke: So a === b is the operator used for: case b when a then puts "foo"; end
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why? because Integer is not an instance of Integer. that's what Class#=== tests.
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or Module#=== even.
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so if else cascade it is
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hi im using rubocop and its saying Inconsistent indentation detected. here is my code, maybe im missing something
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aegis3121 >
it tells you line 3, right?
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aegis3121 >
There's a leading space
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Or, rather, it should be indented two spaces
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As should the entirety of its block
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thank you so much
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croberts, you can just do auto-correction and then git diff to see what was wrong according to rubocop
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Papierkorb: oh nice, i will check that out next time :)
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I ahve a quick question I am somewhat new to rspec but I remember a couple of years ago a friend of mine showed an rspec file that at the begining right after feature but before scenario I had a construct that was given(<symbol>){<string>} but when I tried to that I get an error
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otsugua >
`method_missing': undefined method `given' for RSpec::ExampleGroups::InitialSetUpSteps:Class (NoMethodError)
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otsugua: You're looking for let(:foo){ ... }
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otsugua: given was deprecated iirc
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aha.. yes I think Papierkorb
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so given was deprecated ... huh.. let worked.. thanks a lot
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they're not the same
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but yeah, i think given was removed in v3, not sure
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otsugua >
what's the difference ?
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i don't remember :)
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Can I "destructure" a string from a template? For example, if I have the template "%s__%s" and the final string "foo__bar", can I get ['foo', 'bar'] from that?
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alexandernst: String#match, String#split
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Papierkorb: yes, I know about match and split. What I'm asking is if I can use, somehow, the template itself
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and let ruby figure out how/what to parse/extract/split
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Papierkorb >
no, use regex's
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hm i tried scanf but it didnt worked as i want it to :/
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Using rspec - how can I expect that an object receives a message when I don't have access to that object?
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masterasia >
I want to expect that a user object found in a controller receives reset_password method
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masterasia >
Rspec provides allow_any_instance_of but it says that it is deprecated?
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Papierkorb >
masterasia: use the expect_ variant
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Papierkorb, This feature is sometimes useful when working with legacy code, though in general we
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masterasia >
discourage its use for a number of reasons
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masterasia >
^just FUD?
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masterasia >
what is the alternative to using this feature lol
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Papierkorb >
masterasia: It's a last resort, but sometimes, the only resort I fear. Web MVC Controllers are one of these most of the times
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masterasia >
Papierkorb, fair enough. thank you
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I mean, you don't have the instance (it doesn't exist yet), can't get it (ruby can't do temporal future access yet I guess), and you can't really make the method giving it out return a mocked version either.
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average >
why is gem install so slow over here?
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average >
it's always taken ages
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average >
i never understood why
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average: Define "slow"?
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nodes NPM always takes ages for me, gem is reasonably fast for me
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average >
well.. i'm just running it and it's like taking forever idk
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SeepingN >
lots to do
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SeepingN >
it should be showing you exactly what you're waiting for, no?
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time gem install hola #>> gem install hola 0.86s user 0.32s system 50% cpu 2.335 total
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havenwood >
^ that's with fetching and documentation
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average: What version of RubyGems? Have you tried with the --verbose flag? Which portion takes a long time? How long is long?
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average: If you're installing "rails", most time is spent on parsing its documentation. If you don't need those, pass --no-ri to gem
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And nokogiri :(
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alexandernst >
Is there a way I can mass-assign keys/values from a hash to the attributes of a class?
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apeiros >
alexandernst: no. unless that class provides a method to do so.
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apeiros: this is actually RoR 5, maybe the framework provides some magic for that?
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alexandernst >
(the class is a tableless model)
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>> class A; def initialize(h); @foo, @bar = h.values_at(:foo, :bar); end; end; A.new(foo: 1, bar: 2) # alexandernst
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apeiros >
that'd by why:
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apeiros >
?rails alexandernst
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alexandernst: Please join #RubyOnRails for Rails questions. You need to be identified with NickServ, see /msg NickServ HELP
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assign_attributes i think, i cant remember
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alexandernst: and there too, it depends on the class
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if it's a model, then there are a couple of methods
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apeiros: it's a model, yes
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then ^, also see .attributes=, update, update_attributes, and their friends with bang.
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I think that should work, thank you :)
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dn` >
is there an easy way to format ‘74da3822d9e9’ to ’74:da:38:22 …’?
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apeiros >
>> "74da3822d9e9".gsub(/../, '\0:')
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>> "74da3822d9e9".gsub(/..(?!\z)/, '\0:')
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dn` >
ah, thanks - yes should have thought about that
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maesitos >
Hello! Quick question
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<
maesitos >
Programming Ruby by Dave Thomas or The Ruby Programming Language by David Flanagan
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maesitos >
I'm attracted by the fact the later is also written by Yukihiro Matsumoto
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lupine >
POODR by Santi Metz
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maesitos >
lupine: looks nice
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maesitos >
but I'm more interested in learning the ruby core before
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havenwood >
maesitos: The Well-Grounded Rubyist is another
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havenwood >
maesitos: The 2nd edition covers modern Ruby
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havenwood: thanks!
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I'd like to change gears as I read a book from David Flanagan and it's more close to a reference book and very dense
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maesitos >
I read "JS the definitive guide"
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zofrex >
I am struggling to gracefully and concisely solve a problem involving parsing Json
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zofrex >
I'm communicating with an API that could best be summarised as... unfriendly and messy
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zofrex >
my current code is full of nil checks, &., :dig, and so on
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average >
uhm.. most languages have built-in json parsers these days..
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zofrex >
the issue is the structure
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average >
is you want a json query language.. that's a different thing..
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guys, anyone used eventmachine and its pool?
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cek: I haven't but someone certainly has
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mustmodify >
Say a report has a product_id. And you do product.build_report. Would you expect the existing report's product ID to be nulled out?
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c-c >
this is a implementation specific rails question?
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c-c >
- no way we could know what build_report should do
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mustmodify >
Oh... sorry, wrong channel. My fault.
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mustmodify >
I thought I was on #rails
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i8igmac >
any simple login page tutorials you guys might suggest.
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i8igmac >
wrong chan
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mustmodify >
almost a pattern here...
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reconnect pattern?
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Darmani >
So I wanted to compare two arrays together to see if any of the values were the same.
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Darmani >
I thought this was the way to do it but I guess it doesn't work.
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Darmani >
Could someone tell me why?
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vktec >
Darmani: I can't access that link for some reason. Could you copy the code to something like bpaste.net?
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Darmani >
vktec: oh sure, gimme a sec.
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Darmani >
Hmm that website doesn't have a terminal to see the output...
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apeiros >
Darmani: you're comparing letters with an array
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apeiros >
like "L" == ["A", "E", …]
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apeiros >
so no, that's not how to do it
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havenwood >
Darmani: What you call `string` is in fact an Array
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Darmani >
apeiros: How would you do it?
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apeiros >
I'd use set operations
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c-c >
...You compare a single string to array
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havenwood >
>> string = %w[A E I O U]; string.class
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apeiros >
and yeah, naming-- :D
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Darmani >
Set operations?
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apeiros >
yes. stuff like union, intersection, difference. array has them.
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Darmani >
Right.....
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c-c >
too bad repl.it doesn't have help
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Darmani >
So... What's the best way to search against an array for something you're looking for?
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apeiros >
c-c: no, I don't think we call set operations "enums".
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apeiros >
an enum is a datatype.
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c-c >
Darmani: but your local irb might have... type help<enter>, and then type Set<enter>
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apeiros >
or an interface. depending on what you talk about :)
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Darmani >
Like if I was looking through an array for a specific letter? Or a name or something.
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apeiros >
Darmani: that's a different question than "test if any of the values are the same"
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Darmani >
apeiros: It is?
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apeiros >
Array#include? tests for presence of an element.
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apeiros >
of course. you don't see the difference?
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apeiros: oh I understand.
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Darmani >
Yeah I get it.
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Darmani >
I guess what I'm looking for though is... If the presence of the element I'm looking for is not in the array...
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Darmani >
Do... Something.
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apeiros >
note - I'm not giving you a straight answer because I remember you want to solve stuff yourself. right?
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Darmani >
apeiros: That's one way to learn. Once someone show's me how to do something I never forget how to do it.
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Darmani >
That's how I learn.
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apeiros >
well, up to you. I'll give you the straight answer if you want.
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apeiros: What did you tell me before? To look through Enums for a method?
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apeiros >
through Array for set operations
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apeiros >
Enumerable doesn't have them
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apeiros >
that was for "whether two arrays have values in common"
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apeiros: Right. I guess I could start there. If I get desperate I'll come back here.
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apeiros: Could you show me? I'm stuck.
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apeiros >
Darmani: got the link to your current code?
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apeiros >
ah, found it
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apeiros >
>> letters = %w[A E I O U]; mystr = "LTA"; mystr.chars & letters # common elements
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Darmani >
Wait... I don't get it. You split the array and... Then what?
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apeiros >
I don't split any array :)
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Darmani >
apeiros: Does that Ampersand automatically compare arrays?
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apeiros >
no. Array#& is intersection. i.e. common elements of two arrays.
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apeiros >
letters already is an array
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Darmani >
apeiros: oh that's so convenient... Wow.
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apeiros >
and mystr is a string which I convert into an array of characters via String#chars
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Darmani >
What if that method wasn't available?
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Darmani >
How would you do it then?
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apeiros >
depends on the requirements.
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cek >
why isn't EventMachine::DefChildProcess.open(cmd).callback {|*args| cb.succeed(*args) } equal to .open(cmd).callback(&cb.succeed) ?
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apeiros >
if I had to do it in a scalable way, I'd implement Array#& myself. it's essentially building a hash with the array as keys and testing the other array against those keys.
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Darmani >
apeiros: gotcha.
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Darmani >
Thanks for showing me!
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c-c >
cek: perhaps the latter doesn't quite get the args in the same manner
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cek >
c-c: nah, it has something to do with how ruby understands that i'm passing a block not an argument
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c-c >
quick guess from the: first gets *args, latter gets args
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apeiros >
&(cb.succeed.to_proc)
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apeiros >
that's what it executes
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cek >
so, &obj.method won't actually pass method but call .method , then pass whatever is returned as method?
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hammeds >
anyone here has hotmails or outlooks list ping meanyone here know command on cygin how to filter plz tell me
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apeiros >
cek: almost. it will then try to convert whatever the method returned into a block using to_proc (if it isn't already a Proc instance)
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Darmani >
apeiros: Question, what if I wanted to return a true/false value instead of that object?
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cek >
okay, what's the proper way to pass that then?
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apeiros >
Darmani: .empty? is your friend then.
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apeiros >
cek: use the full block notation.
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i.e. with {} or do/end.
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apeiros: Damn you're good.
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Darmani: that's why some people pay me a lot of money to work for them ;-)
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apeiros: Is there any books you would recommend I read or anything?
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what about .callback(&cb.method(:succeed)) ?
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Darmani: not really, sorry. there are plenty I can recommend by heaving heard of them being good, though.
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Kk no worries!
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sandi metz' poodr. ruby under the microscope. the one by ian flannigan (hope it's spelled that way) and matz
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oh, eloquent ruby
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cek: I think that'd be equivalent, yes.
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Flanagan and Matz "The Ruby Programming Language" was great to learn cornerstones from when I borrowed it (in 2010? :)
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?books Darmani
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apeiros: Got it!
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feel free to report missing books :)
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tnx, that worked. eventmachine.rb:202: [BUG] Segmentation fault at 0x00000000000000
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hello rubyist h/
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