baweaver changed the topic of #ruby to: Rules & more: https://ruby-community.com || Ruby 2.4.0, 2.3.3 & 2.2.6: https://www.ruby-lang.org || Paste >3 lines of text to: https://gist.github.com || Rails questions? Ask in: #RubyOnRails || Logs: https://irclog.whitequark.org/ruby || Books: https://goo.gl/wpGhoQ
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<amincd> Hi, what data type should I store coefficients that will be used in financial operations? I've heard that float should be avoided with financial-related data?
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<ponzii> I just upgraded from Yosemite to Sierra. I have gems in $HOME/.gem and everything else in .rbenv. Other than Nokogiri do I need to reinstall anything?
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<ponzii> $HOME/.rbenv
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<adam12> ponzii: Pure ruby gems likely ok. ANything with native dep's is iffy.
<ponzii> adam12: ruby itself OK?
<adam12> ponzii: I'm not sure, tbh. It's been a long time since I did the update.
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<_3by8> Hello everyone. Had a quick question about which book to read next. I'm currently going through The Well-Grounded Rubyist and was wondering if I should go with, Eloquent Ruby, Design Patterns in Ruby or something else.
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<boog> I haven't read it but according to the book list. I think Eloquent Ruby was recommended as a good 2nd book to read.
<_3by8> Wow, didn't see that book list there.
<boog> I found it today myself. I'm working out of Beginning Ruby atm...
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<_3by8> boog, thanks :)
<boog> np
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<baweaver> boog / _3by8 : I hid it there
<baweaver> depends on what you're looking to do
<baweaver> but ER is a good book for getting a lot of it down including some of metaprogramming and other bits
<baweaver> I tend to call it the book that teaches how to Ruby like a Rubyist
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<baweaver> In any case I really need to be more detailed on that list.
<baweaver> feel free to ask anything if you need recommendations. Chances are I've read it or could point to a book by a good author that's written on it
<baweaver> best advice I can give though if you need to learn a lot and have a huge book list to dive through: Safari Books Online
<baweaver> flat rate a month (35 I think) to get unlimited access to O'Reilly, NoStarch, PragProg, Manning, and a lot of others.
<baweaver> I got in around $25 a month and best money I've spent on learning period. Great if I want to preview a book in depth before buying it outright
<baweaver> also a lot of pre-releases so newer topics have content too like Kafka.
<boog> i heard good things about the Safari Books subscription as well... not sure if it pencils out for me though on a yearly basis
<baweaver> That's fair
<baweaver> for me I'd wreck my wallet without it because I buy too many books
<baweaver> good thing I managed to talk work into buying it for me :D
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<alirezabashiri> is there a better way to do this? Group.where(warehouse_profile: warehouse_profile).exists?(name: name)
<alirezabashiri> WarehouseProfile has-many Groups
<alirezabashiri> Group belongs-to WarehouseProfile
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<_3by8> alirezabashiri sounds like a #RubyOnRails question
<alirezabashiri> _3by8: right
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<jellymann> Hello!
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<jellymann> Does anyone here know how Fiddle works?
<jellymann> Like, not how to use it, but rather how it works internally.
<jellymann> I have some questions...
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<leitz> Wow, I haven't seen a segfault with Ruby before.
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<leitz> Is this legit in Ruby 2.4.0 and Tk? command proc {exit}
<leitz> Don't remember a segfault under 1.8.7.
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<leitz> Any ideas on how this changed between Ruby 1.8.7 and 2.4.0 so that it segfaults? https://gist.github.com/LeamHall/88b8859e198fee4e09021a27cf332222
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<s0l__> what can i use instead of dbi / dbd-mysql?
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<s0l__> mysql2 seems to be actual
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<bobsje> Hey guys, Newb question, but is it possible to alias a kernel method? like if i have Kernel.doSomething()
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<apeiros> bobsje: sure
<apeiros> you mean a class method on Kernel? class << Kernel; alias old_name new_name; end
<matthewd> bobsje: Assuming it's still true, "I am using Ruby 1.8.1" really needs to be the first thing you say before asking anything
<bobsje> woops yeah I am still using 1.8.1 sorry. I'll mention that next time
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<apeiros> 1.8.1, oh dear
<apeiros> you probably have been told before, but: move on man :D
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<flips> And I thought the 1.8.7 on my customer's server was old ... ;)
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<bobsje> apeiros that works, thanks!
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<manveru> still better than 1.6.4 :)
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<flips> Heh, wonder what version I first tried ... Think it was 1.6.x, maybe 1.6.4 :)
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<anotherpi> hello!
<adaedra> Hi
<anotherpi> don't know if it's wanted or not in Ruby
<anotherpi> but https://eval.in/743396
<anotherpi> at least, i found the bug i was tracking since 2/3 days :)
<adaedra> replace proc with lambda
<adaedra> or i don't know what you're trying to impy
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<adaedra> ah no, doesn't seem to be about argument count
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<anotherpi> if the block is curried, the self when i call the new defined method is not what i expect
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<adaedra> I think it's because you return the curried proc and not calling it in the second case
<anotherpi> oups, i think i made a mistake in my problem example
<anotherpi> 1 minute :p
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<anotherpi> that's my problem https://eval.in/743400
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<anotherpi> i want to force the defined method to have one argument at least, even if the block passed have no arguments
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<synstack> anotherpi, you mean an optional argument?
<anotherpi> and i want `self` to be the instance of Test at call
<synstack> oh nevermind the block
<anotherpi> synstack: yep it's a block :p
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<jdeen> I got an issue coping some code... it is related to a use of a class defined in the same file... as Ruby is a dynamic language it makes sense... but the example I copied is supposed to be working... hence my curiosity... could I be doing some thing wrong... GIST: https://gist.github.com/ziyan-junaideen/c3b4b307b15da0e1714e16d6e5d40d1f
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<anotherpi> jdeen: the code you posted is not runnable without the full environment (required modules/classes)
<anotherpi> jdeen: what is your output?
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<jdeen> anotherpi: it was just to show how the classes are in the file... it show an error pointing to the first class saying that the constant is not defined or some thing like that. when i moved the second on top it worked.
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<anotherpi> jdeen: of course, the code in the class is executed and Show is not yet declared
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<anotherpi> jdeen: if it was define in a method, it will be executed at the method call, but here it is called at class definition
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<_sfiguser> sometimes for log files... binary format is used... my question is why ? couldn't htey use just plain text files ? why i should record my logs in binary ?
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<KicStart> _sfiguser: There's a lot of opinions on this topic, both for and against. This one is for: https://asylum.madhouse-project.org/blog/2015/05/05/grepping-logs-is-terrible/
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<anotherpi> it seems to be an unwanted behavior in ruby https://eval.in/743443
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<anotherpi> Proc#curry fix the object behind `self`
<anotherpi> not at currying time
<anotherpi> however, it will be set at method call
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<jhass> well curry is probably wrapping the given block into another one which then becomes the method body
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<jhass> so define_method changes the context of the currying proc rather than the curried proc
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<anotherpi> jhass: well seen
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<anotherpi> i want to add an argument to a block if none given
<anotherpi> do you have an idea to do that without #curry ?
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<anotherpi> thank you so much jhass
<jhass> yw
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<allisio> Why not just use a default argument in the Proc's definition?
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<jhass> they probably want to make the callside easier to use
<jhass> of the define_method wrapper that is
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<anotherpi> allisio: https://github.com/lepieru/eavi in How to example
<anotherpi> i don't want to make def_visit block argument mandatory
<anotherpi> and after currying, the self was the class, not the class instance
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<jhass> you probably could store the blocks in a hash and thus retain their block semantics
<jhass> >> def foo(&block); block; end; foo { 1 }.call(2)
<ruby[bot]> jhass: # => 1 (https://eval.in/743475)
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<allisio> anotherpi: I agree(?) that it'd probably be cleanest to just take advantage of the fact that Procs don't do argument checking.
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<JohnnyR030T> Hello Ruby community! :) When checking for a key in a hash is there a reason that using the .key? method would be better than the has_key? method? Is one preferred over the other in the Ruby community?
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<allisio> JohnnyR030T: No and no. Choose one (#has_key?, #key?, #include?, #member?) and be consistent.
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<JohnnyR030T> Thanks allisio
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<allisio> JohnnyR030T: It is a little silly that there are four different ways to spell that one, eh?
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<balo> allisio: they are not equivalent
<balo> > Note that include? and member? do not test member equality using == as do other Enumerables.
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<balo> (in general)
<allisio> balo: You misread the comment.
<allisio> In your defense, it's worded a little poorly.
<balo> true, i just double checked the C code
<balo> they all point to the same thing
<allisio> Indeed they do.
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<anekant> trying to install nokogiri gem on machos: xmlIO.c:1450:52: error: use of undeclared identifier 'LZMA_OK' ret = (__libxml2_xzclose((xzFile) context) == LZMA_OK ) ? 0 : -1;
<anekant> s/machos/macosx
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<anekant> "nokogiri requires Ruby version >= 2.1.0."
<anekant> will 2.1 break code that is currently running under 2.0?
<Nilium> I don't recall any major changes between 2.0 and 2.1, but it's kinda been a while.
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* anekant has flashbacks to having to change a lot of require statements because 1.8 looked in the current directory automatically, but subsequently I have to do require './foo'
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<Nilium> Yeah, but 1.8 to 2.0's a pretty different change.
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<Nilium> https://www.ruby-lang.org/en/news/2013/12/25/ruby-2-1-0-is-released/ ← Those're the changes for 2.1.0. If they break something you're doing, your code's probably already not in a good state.
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<baweaver> The biggest modern change was the unification of Fixnum and Bignum into Integer which broke some native extensions like JSON in older versions (which people shouldn't be using)
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<Disavowed> Hey all. Any library recommendations for making HTTP requests?
<Radar> httparty, typhoeus.
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<Disavowed> Radar: Thank you so much. Also I think you helped me about a year ago when I was just starting out - I've almost entirely ditched Python for Ruby, so thank you for getting me through that tricky first month :)
<Radar> Disavowed: No worries :)
<Radar> I think you're referring to this exchange: http://logs.ryanbigg.com/RubyOnRails?date=2017-01-17#5680424
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<baweaver> He's kind of a Bigg deal
<Disavowed> I think that was a more recent one - I didn't notice that was you too; you're incredibly helpful!
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<Radar> baweaver: When I was doing a conf tour a few years ago I called it the "Too Bigg For <city>" tour
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<baweaver> har
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<jaegerca> Can anyone here tell me what the "god" http://godrb.com/ monitoring framework would have over something like the gem "deamons" https://github.com/thuehlinger/daemons ?
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<Papierkorb> jaegerca: Have you considered just writing systemd service instead?
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<jaegerca> Papierkorb: I have not, why might that be a better approach, and can you recommend a resource on going about it?
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<Papierkorb> jaegerca: Advantages: 1) Every service in a single place. Easier to find. 2) That God thing also needs to be started. What if it dies? 3) Auto start after reboot, or crashes, or whenever 4) Simple, and just-works for lots of service types
<Papierkorb> Don't be scared, there's tons of things it can do for you, but in reality, you can grab a .service file from /usr/lib/systemd/system (like from postgres or sshd or so), modify it to what you need, drop it into /etc/systemd/system and then use systemctl to start/enable the service like any other
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<allisio> Is there some very clever Rubyism that would convince this #scan to "tag" its findings? https://eval.in/743556
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<jaegerca> Papierkorb: Thank you for the info, it does seem easy enough. I am looking into how I might accomplish all of this with chef.
<Papierkorb> Never used chef. Though with Ansible, we just copy prepared files over (Or template them)
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<jaegerca> Papierkorb: Yeah I can do the same with chef, so basically just template the file where it needs to go, not too bad.
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<Papierkorb> Maybe it's less cool than a fancy "builder", but has the benefit that anyone who knows systemd can read/fix them :)
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