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<apeiros> what are you trying to achieve?
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<impermanence> apeiros: hey. I'm writing that now.
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<impermanence> apeiros: I have a lambda. say exp = -> (a, b) { a**b } and a method that takes a lambda. say def my_method(m) ; my_method needs to return a new lambda like the original, but with the arguments flipped
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<apeiros> def foo; ->(a,b) { exp(b, a) }; end
<apeiros> assuming foo has somehow access to exp
<apeiros> though you're still very xy
<impermanence> apeiros: "very xy" ?
<apeiros> ?xy impermanence
<ruby[bot]> impermanence: it seems like you are asking for a specific solution to a problem, instead of asking about your problem. This often leads to bad solutions and increases frustration for you and those trying to help you. More: http://meta.stackexchange.com/a/66378
<apeiros> you told me exactly *zero* about your actual problem.
<impermanence> apeiros: oh, that was not my intention :)
<apeiros> I know. xy people often don't realize. they think "I reduced the problem". but instead, they substitute.
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<impermanence> apeiros: one sec, being specific.
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<apeiros> that does not really tell me anything more than you already told me
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<impermanence> apeiros: I can be even more specific.
<matthewd> impermanence: I think you're being *too* specific -- the question isn't for more clarity of what you want this method to do, but *why* you want it
<impermanence> matthewd: oh, okay.
<apeiros> I'd actually say your gist did not add/increase specifity.
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<apeiros> it added examples.
<impermanence> apeiros: are you wanting to know what problem I am trying to solve?
<apeiros> "I want to fetch some water" - "please tell me what problem you want to solve by fetching water" - "I want to fetch water with a bucket"
<apeiros> yes. I thought I'd even used those very words. but doesn't seem I did.
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<impermanence> apeiros: no problem. I am trying to solve an exercise and am being asked to write a method that takes a lambda which itself takes two arguments, returns a new lambda like the original but with the two arguments flipped.
<apeiros> oh, homework
<matthewd> Right, so that's particularly important information, because it'd rather defeat the point of the exercise if someone accidentally just gave you the solution
<apeiros> ^
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<impermanence> that's why I led off by asking if I could access lambda parameters from inside a function that takes a lambda is its one argument.
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<matthewd> So: no, but you don't need to
<impermanence> apeiros said that. at that point I started listening ;)
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<impermanence> matthewd: -> (a,b) { f(b, a) }
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<impermanence> I began working on this based on an earlier example from apeiros but
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<impermanence> pry is throwing undef meth f
<matthewd> Presumably because f isn't a method
<baweaver> &ri Proc
<baweaver> How does one call a proc?
<baweaver> hint: not just with ()
<baweaver> >> lambda = -> a,b { a + b }; lambda(1,2)
<ruby[bot]> baweaver: # => wrong number of arguments (given 2, expected 0) (ArgumentError) ...check link for more (https://eval.in/841978)
<impermanence> baweaver: ah, that makes sense.
<baweaver> ...ignore my names there
<impermanence> baweaver: yes, I see now.
<baweaver> >> add = -> a,b { a + b }; add(1,2)
<ruby[bot]> baweaver: # => undefined method `add' for main:Object (NoMethodError) ...check link for more (https://eval.in/841979)
<baweaver> there we go
<impermanence> add.(1, 2)
* apeiros puts up a gofundme to buy baweaver a dot
<impermanence> there we go :)
<baweaver> apeiros: Oh I know. I was making a point.
<baweaver> and it was received
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<baweaver> Admittedly I always screw that one up myself and I'm still not fond that you can't just call add(1,2)
<Radar> Elixir has the same thing
<Radar> p.s. hi
<impermanence> my understanding is that the dot operator access is new as of 2.4?
<baweaver> Nope.
<baweaver> 1.9 or before somewhere.
<baweaver> but for all intents and purposes it's in modern ruby versions is the point there
<Radar> At least 1.9.3
<Radar> I just tried it locally and it works on 1.9.3
<baweaver> 1.9.2 -> 1.9.3 was odd
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<apeiros> not before 1.9
<apeiros> and yes, lets pretend 1.9.0-1.9.2 didn't happen.
<impermanence> why?
<baweaver> Now if you really want to have fun with Lambdas read Raganwald's books and blog posts. Particularly: Kestrels, Quirky Birds, and Hopeless Egocentricity.
<Radar> o .() and calling Procs without #call/#[] <- from the 1.9.1 changelogs:http://svn.ruby-lang.org/repos/ruby/tags/v1_9_1_0/NEWS
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<baweaver> impermanence: darker times
<baweaver> uncivilized times
<baweaver> we do not talk about them
<impermanence> wow, the raganwald books are impressive.
<apeiros> impermanence: those updates had weird braking changes. and 1.9.0 was officially never for production.
<impermanence> apeiros: braking changes?
<apeiros> impermanence: yes. it stopped everything :o)
<apeiros> *breaking, oc
<impermanence> apeiros: ah.
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<rapha> YAY+
<rapha> YAY! , my Swiss keyboard and I mean
<rapha> eam: apeiros: this is the result of the stuff I asked questions about earlier. https://github.com/sixtyfive/watchsys/blob/master/watchsys ... I'd be happy about criticism :)
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<growp> how do you split on regex?
<growp> like: string = ("John - Doe - John_Record.rb")
<growp> i want string.split to #=> ["John", "Doe", "John_Record"]
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<rapha> string.split /\ -\ /
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<growp> rapha that will return what I'm not looking for
<growp> that will have "John_Record.rb" as the third element in the string array
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<rapha> growp: So change the regex accordingly.
<rapha> Oh. Gone.
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<JyZyXEL> bash_to_zsh_history.rb:18:in `split': invalid byte sequence in UTF-8 (ArgumentError)
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<apeiros> JyZyXEL: is there a question in this somewhere?
<JyZyXEL> the error makes no sense to me
<apeiros> your file contains data which is not valid utf-8
<apeiros> you tell ruby to read and treat it as utf-8
<apeiros> and that doesn't work
<apeiros> you know what utf-8 is?
<JyZyXEL> i guess my bash_history isn't UTF-8 then
<apeiros> you don't have to guess. that's what ruby tells you and what I just told you :)
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<JyZyXEL> but i also didn't see anywhere that it would need to be!
<apeiros> newer rubies default to utf-8 unless your env specifically states something else.
<apeiros> you have to tell ruby if you want to treat your files as e.g. binary.
<JyZyXEL> .bash_history: ISO-8859 text, with very long lines, .zsh_history: Non-ISO extended-ASCII text
<JyZyXEL> oh wow, the author had no consideration that these files don't even use the same encoding
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<apeiros> probably because that's not very likely? :)
<apeiros> (more likely because they didn't consider encodings at all)
<JyZyXEL> that's what it looks like. no wonder someone in the comments was complaining about data corruption
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<konsolebox> anyone knows a C function that checks if a string or symbol is a valid name for a constant?
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<konsolebox> or a class name
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<konsolebox> nvm. found the functions i need to examine.
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<jgorak> Hi all. Does anyone have a compelling reason to do assignments like "a ||= b if b" instead of just "a ||= b"?
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<konsolebox> it means assign a default value to a if a is not set and b is set. it kind of looks like b is an alternative default value which can be customized.
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<jgorak> I understand the meaning of it, but I sometimes see it written with the conditional part at the end, but I don't see a difference
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<jgorak> Wait, I just needed to say it out loud. I see the difference now. If a is nil and b is false, "a ||= b" makes a==false, but "a ||= b if b" makes a==nil
<konsolebox> `a ||= b` is not synonymous to `a ||= b if b` if b is `false`
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<konsolebox> jgorak: yeah, i noticed it soon but i had to verify hence the delay of my message
<jgorak> Didn't consider that there's multiple falsey values
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<jgorak> Just a curiousity I had. Thanks for helping me work through it :)
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<danieel> anybody here to help me out with ruby issues for gitlabhq installation (gentoo) ?
<havenwood> danieel: what issues are you running into?
<danieel> git@work /opt/gitlabhq-9.4 $ bundle exec rake gitlab:setup RAILS_ENV=production
<danieel> LoadError: cannot load such file -- peek-mysql2
<danieel> rake aborted!
<danieel> had a similar issues with mysql2 package, which i managed to pass by by editing Gemfile, deleting group tag
<havenwood> danieel: does `bundle` succeed? what version of peek-mysql2?
<havenwood> basename $(bundle show peek-mysql2)
<danieel> havenwood: i tried to add mysql2-peek to gemfile, then it complained that its there 2x
<havenwood> danieel: Gist your Gemfile?
<danieel> so i found it was there, again in mysql group
<havenwood> Is it resolving to version 1.2.0?
<danieel> i think i miss some essential bit... it was skipping to install those
<danieel> i edited this:
<danieel> # Supported DBs
<danieel> gem 'mysql2', '~> 0.3.16'
<danieel> #gem 'mysql2', '~> 0.3.16', group: :mysql
<danieel> the .bundle/config contains BUNDLE_WITHOUT: "development:test:mysql:thin:memcached:postgres"
<danieel> the suggested: bundle install --deployment --without development test mysql
<danieel> does not install those mysql stuff, so i removed the group specifier
<danieel> what did i miss here? (i am totally new to ruby and bundle.. )
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<havenwood> danieel: Why are you excluding all those groups with `--without`? Is that intended?
<danieel> it is in gitlab guide for gentoo.. i dont know exactly
<danieel> i did managed to pass by now for this, so now it is a question of user privileges on my sql server...
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<havenwood> danieel: It's expected that if you `--without mysql` the :mysql group won't install.
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<danieel> yes, just figured out how this is supposed to work
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<havenwood> If you'd like to remove the "remembered" ones you can `bundle config --delete without`. You can also provide withouts by env var like: BUNDLE_WITHOUT="development:test" bundle --deployment
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<havenwood> danieel: I've got to relocate but I'm sure others are waking up / still awake. Happy coding!
<danieel> thanks!
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<LiamW> so I've noticed that Kernel#` when called in a tight loop tends to create zombies
<LiamW> would that be a bug in ruby or in libc?
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<LiamW> loop { Process.wait } reaps them, obviously
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<LiamW> but they shouldn't be sticking around in the first place
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<apeiros> LiamW: might be related to finalizers and how they're non-deterministically run. i.e. it might be that the reaping happens in a finalizer, which might run "whenever"
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<apeiros> though, no. `` has to wait for the subprocess to terminate before it can return anyway… wouldn't make sense in a finalizer
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<tom69> is there any way to compile a ruby script into an executable, or a more portable form?
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<LiamW> apeiros: but how could it be waiting if it created a zombie?
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<evlute> hello, i wanna open an ipv6 socket and i'm don't know how to select AF_INET6 as Protocol.
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<gr33n7007h> evlute: what have you tried so far?
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<evlute> maybe i have to use the socket class instead of tcpserver
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<gr33n7007h> evlute: are you trying to create a tcpserver?
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<LiamW> apeiros: 4_500_000.times { `echo` }
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<LiamW> seems to do it
<LiamW> (that'll take 10-15 minutes)
<LiamW> I'm testing with a C version to see if I can get the same bug
<LiamW> it might be ruby just failing to wait()
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<LiamW> C version didn't bug
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<Guest94946> Hi Guys
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<Guest94946> need help on ruby script
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<impermanence> ^ i know there is a more ruby way to do this, but unsure how to make it happen
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<impermanence> also unsure how to get it to stop duplicating the last element
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<impermanence> I've figured out the second part.
<impermanence> Now I'm just interested in rubifying this.
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